SUCCESSFUL. WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL -- >> JOINING ME FORMER BUSH SR., ADVISORY FOX NEWS KARL ROVE JAMES FREEMAN. >> HAVE YOU WROTE A CRITICAL OP-ED LAST MONTH SAYING 68% CPAC DELEGATES WANT TO SEE PRESIDENT TRUMP RUN OF IN 204. >> REACTION TO COMMENTS. >> IF HE WANTS TO KEEP OPEN OPTION OF RUNNING SMART THING TO SAY HE HAS TO DEAL WITH FACT IF CPAC MOST LOYAL OF THE LOYAL 97% GIVE A HIM VERY FAVORABLE RATING ONLY 68% SAID THEY WANTED HIM TO RUN I THINK 50 SOME ODD PERCENT SAID THEY WOULD SUPPORT HIM IF HE DID HE HAS -- AT THE MESSAGE THERE IS WE LIKE WHAT YOU DID, BUT WE MAY NOT LIKE HOW YOU HANDLED YOURSELF I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS THINKING ABOUT THIS NEEDS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BUT WE GOT SEVERAL GEE BEFORE THE CONTEST FIRMS UP NO NEEDING TO BEYOND WHAT HE SAID TO MARIA YESTERDAY, I AM THINKING ABOUT IT. >> HE DID TELL MARIA WOULD CONSIDER RON DESANTIS GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA AS RUNNING MATE WHO ARE REAL CONTENDERS? I THINK, THAT -- SENATOR TIM SCOTT RESPONSE TO BIDEN OTHER NIGHT REALLY -- WAS -- UPLIFTING FOR SO MANY AMERICANS, CONSERVATIVES HE NOW I KNOW THAT IT IS VERY SOON AFTER THAT SPEECH BUT IT WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE IN TERMS OF REALLY GETTING THE MESSAGE ACROSS BEGINNING TO FORMULATE WHAT CONSERVATIVES STAND FOR. >> YEAH, YOU KNOW AMAZING WE HAD TWO SPEECHES THE OTHER NIGHT, ONE OF THEM SEMI MEDIOCRE PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS THE OTHER ONE, THE RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT'S ADDRESS NORMALLY WHERE GOOD SPEECH WRITING GOOD SPEAKERS GO TO DIE INSTEAD WE GOT A HECK OF A SPEECH FROM TIM SCOTT I THINK RAISED PROFILE ENORMOUSLY HAS TO GET REELECTED IN 2022 SOUTH CAROLINA BUT LONG TIME TO 2024 STILL HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT IT GET INVOLVED, AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH HAVING DONE THIS ONCE BEFORE MYSELF A REELECTION LIKE THIS, FOR TIM SCOTT HELPS IF HE WANTS TO GET RUN IN 2024 HE HAS AN EXCUSE TO GO AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND ASK PEOPLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO HIS CAMPAIGN EXPLAIN WHY IT IS IMPORTANT, FOR 2022, BUILDS PLANS FOR 2024 WILL BE IN TEXAS NEXT WEEK I AM INVOLVED IN A CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY THAT IS HOSTING TIM SCOTT ALONG WITH A BUNCH OF OTHERS ALPHABETICAL ORDER CHRIS CHRISTIE TOM COTTON RON DESANTIS MIKE PENCE MIKE POMPEO, RICK SCOTT TIM SCOTT AT CONFERENCE FOR RESPECT DONORS WHO SUPPORTED VOTER REGISTRATION GET OUT VOTE ACTIVITY IN TEXAS IN 2020, SO SCOTT HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY JUST LIKE GEORGE W. BUSH, USED HIS 1998 REELECTION IN ORDER TO LAY PREDICATE FOR ARE 2000 PRESIDENTIAL RACE, TIM SCOTT SO DOES RON DESANTIS RUNNING FOR REFLEX AS GOVERNOR IN FLORIDA NEXT YEAR. >> SOUNDED LIKE A ROSTER OF PEOPLE VYING FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION IN 2024. BUT I THINK THE PARTY THE REPUBLICANS, QUITE FRANKLY, THE COUNTRY WE NEED WORRY ABOUT MIDTERMS BEFORE WE GET AHEAD -- OF -- >> ABSOLUTELY -- ABSOLUTELY, IN FACT A VIRTUALLY EVERY ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES COMING TO THAT CONFERENCE IS DOING A FUND-RAISING EVENT IN PLACE NIGHT BEFORE OR AFTER EVENT TO RAISE MONDAY FOR ACCOUNTS IN TEXAS NINE MEMBERS GOT LESS THAN 56% VOTE ALL PEOPLE COMING TO TEXAS TO HELP RAISE MONDAY YOU ARE RIGHT FOCUS HAS TO BE ON 2022 IF WE DON'T GET BACK IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE BAD THING WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. DAGEN: I I HAVE OF YOUR COLUMN PRINCIPALITY IT OUT HLTSDZ WITH NOTES I TAKE, I ALSO HAVE JAMES FREEMAN'S, BY THE WAY, SO I DON'T WANT TO THROW SHADE -- >> IF YOU -- IF YOU NOTED SHOULD YOU SEE WHAT JAMES FREEMAN AND OTHER COLLEAGUES MY EDITORS AT "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" DID TO MY ROUGH DRAFT MY GOD WRITE A LOT ON IT ALWAYS TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE COLUMN. >> THIS PROFESSION -- A BIT OF EDITING. >> A QUESTION ARE FOR KARL. >> KARL I AM WONDERING WHAT YOUR ADVICE IS TO NON-TRUMP CANDIDATES YOU MENTIONED IN TERMS OF HOW THEY TALKED ABOUT TRUMP GOING FORWARD, NOW I THINK OBVIOUSLY, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE TRUMP FRIENDS GROW THAT WANT TO APPEAL TO A BROAD, BROADER POPULATION RECOGNIZE ACHIEVEMENTS SPEAK TO THOSE STILL FANS HOW DO YOU RECOMMEND CANDIDATES TALK ABOUT TRUMP ENSURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THEY THINGS TO DO IF WE WANT TO WIN TAKE WORKING CLASS BLUE COLA MIDDLE AMERICA DRIFTING INTO PARTY LAST 30 YEARS, THAT WAVE CULL MINIMUMATED IN ELECTION OF DONALD TRUMP SOLIDIFY THAT BASE. SECOND OF ALL REASSURE OUR STRENGTHEN REGROW STRENGTH? SUBURBS WE'VE GOT TO WIN THE SUBURBS IN ARIZONA GEORGIA WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN, PENNSYLVANIA WHERE WE CAME UP SHORT IN 2020 IT SHOWED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST, FINALLY, WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH FACT THAT WE HAVE A GROWINGLY DIVERSE ELECTORATE WE CAN DO THINGS TIM SCOTT I THINK SHOWED THE MODEL THE OTHER NIGHT, I MEAN HE HAD A ARTICULATE CRITICISM OF BIDEN ONE OF THE BEST LINES ACT OF ADMINISTRATION UNWILLINGNESS OF BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE ON INFRASTRUCTURE SAID NOT EVEN WILLING TO BUILD BRIDGES TO BUILD BRIDGES I THOUGHT A GREAT LINE HE LAID OUT A POSITIVE OPTIMISTIC AGENDA, FOR THE REPUBLICANS, HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES TAX CUTS, JUSTICE REFORMER POLICE REFORMER -- OUTLINED AGENDA THAT HE HAS BEEN PART OF, THAT HE COULD TALK ABOUT PERSONALLY AND PASSIONATELY ABOUT FINAL FINALLY TALKED ABOUT OPTIMISM OF THE AMERICAN DREAM HOW WE HAD TO SPREAD PROSPERITY OPPORTUNITY BROADER I THOUGHT AS A RESULT A POWERFUL SPEECH. DAGEN: ARE I DESCRIBED PERSON FREEDOMS PERSON CHOICE WHO MAKES THE BEST DECISIONS, ABOUT YOUR LIFE, YOUR YOU LIVELIHOOD YOUR HEALTH WITH YOUR REQUEST MONEY? IS IT YOU OR THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THAT SPEECH FROM JOE BIDEN IN ALL THE PLANS, THAT HIS BIDEN AND CO, HAVE INTRODUCED ARE NOT THAT IT IS ABOUT MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND ULTIMATELY ABOUT GOVERNMENT CONTROL. >> ABSOLUTELY. DAGEN: YOU POINTED OUT OPPORTUNITY IF REPUBLICANS GET MESSAGING RIGHT THE OPPORTUNITY IS VAST AND LIMITLESS IN TERMS OF -- BECAUSE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS YOU USED FRAED RADICAL AGGRESSIVE PARTISAN THAT IS WHAT BIDEN AND COMPANY ARE UP TO, THEY ARE DOING IT WITHOUT A MANDATE. IT IS THERE IS IT IS A 50-50 TIE IN THE SENATE, THERE IS -- SLIMMEST MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE BUT ASKING ACTING LIKE AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTED FOR A NEW NEW DEAL, APPROXIMATELY ACTUALLY WORSE THAN NEW DEAL BECAUSE AMOUNT OF SPENDING DEBT THAT WE ARE ALREADY IN, BUT THAT IS HOW I SAW IT JUST TAKES THE MESSAGING, AND IDEAS AND OPTIMISM, AS YOU SAID, KARL. >> ABSOLUTELY, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THINK ABOUT THIS IN FIRST 100 DAYS, 1.9 TRILLION DOLLARS ON COVID OF WHICH -- ONLY 1% FOR VACCINATIONS MAYBE 160 MILLION, OUT OF THE -- SHOULD BE 160 BILLION OUT OF 1.9 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS TO DO WITH COVID, COVID AFTEREFFECT, INFRASTRUCTURE 2.6 BILLION, FAMILY PLAN THE OTHER NIGHT A TRILLION A TRILLION 8, OVER 6 TRILLION DOLLARS ADDITIONAL SPENDING REMEMBER, THAT IS ALSO ON TOP OF THE 3 TRILLION DOLLARS IN MANDATORY SPENDING THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, AND 1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS SPENDING, SO WE HAVE 10.8 TRILLION DOLLARS, BEING SPENT THIS YEAR, OR BEING PROPOSED TO BE SPENT BY ADMINISTRATION, OUR BUDGET OUR ENTIRE FEDERAL BUDGET 2019 BEFORE COVID, INTEREST ON NATIONAL DEBT ALL THE MANDATORY SPENDING SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE ALL DISCRETIONARY SPENDING DEFENSE BUDGET EDUCATION INTERIOR NATIONAL MARKETS, ET CETERA, 4.4 DRLDZ THIS IS WHAT THIS GUY IS TALKING ABOUT EMBEDDED IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE SPENDING PROGRAMS, IS AN EXPANSION OF THE FEDERAL POWER, IN CASE WAY AUTHORITY FROM INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY SFOOEB IN CHARGE OF THEIR LIFE TO MAKE THEIR CHOICES, TURNING IT OVER TO GOVERNMENT THINK ABOUT THIS, HE ALSO WAS TALKING ABOUT SERIES OF BILLS HE WANTED TO PASS SO-CALLED PRO, IT WOULD ABOLISH EVERY STATE RIGHT TO WORK LAW EVERY STATE, TALKED ABOUT H.R.1, YOU KNOW WE GOT TO HAVE BETTER ELECTION WOULD -- REMOVE THE ABILITY OF 31 STATES THAT REQUIRE VOTER ID, THEY COULD NO LONGER DO IT WOULD REQUIRE EVERY STATE TO LEGALIZE BALLOT HARVESTING IN TEXAS WE OUTLAWED BALLOT HARVESTING HUGE YOU BIPARTISAN VOTE SUDDENLY TOLD BY WASHINGTON YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOT ONLY MONEY BUT POWER TAKING AWAY FROM STATES FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IMPORTANT OF ALL TAKING AWAY FROM AMERICAN INDIVIDUALS AND AMERICAN FAMILIES. DAGEN: IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY OF THE MESSAGE I ALSO POINT OUT LAST THE LIBERALS THE BIDEN INFORMATION WILL NOT STAND UP FOR POLICE, AND RIGHT, I MEAN THAT IS DUTY OF THE GOVERNMENT, DEFENSE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT IS THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNMENT. THEY WON'T STAND UP FOR THE POLICE, THEY DUCK HEADS AT VERY LEAST WHEN POLICE OFFICERS ARE DEMONIZED, THEN WANT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELVES. THAT IS ALSO A MESSAGE THAT SHOULD RESONATE WITH PEOPLE PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF CITIES OR EVEN PEOPLE WHO DO LIVE IN CITIES KARL, I HE LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> LOOK IN CITIES THINK, CAN YOU NAME ME A SINGLE POLL YOU HAVE SEEN WHERE THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN AMERICA, SAYS WE WANT LESS POLICE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT DEFUNDING OUR LOCAL POLICE? VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES IN AMERICA REGARDLESS OF WHO LIVES IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WHETHER WHATEVER THEIR COLOR RACE BACKGROUND STATUS IN POLICE, THEY KNOW THAT THE POLICE ARE IMPORTANT TO KEEPING SAFETY OF THEIR FAMILIES AND OF THEIR COMMUNITIES YET THE DEMOCRATS I MEAN IT IS AMAZING TO ME, HOW WIDESPREAD THIS THING OF WE'RE GOING TO REIMAGINE POLICE, WHICH IS YOU KNOW WHEN IS -- SHORT HAND FOR WE'RE GOING TO CUT THEIR POWER CUT THEIR AUTHORITY CULTURE THEIR BUDGETS AND REDUCE PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR CITY MY CITY OF AUSTIN YOU SEE STATE CAPITOL OVER MY SHOULDER YOU CUT BUDGET FOR POLICE 150 MILLION DOLLARS, SHOULD. >> T
