Just Stop Oil activist SLAMMED by physicist over eco claims | 'A lot warmer during Egyptian period!'

what boss of all someone claims that cutting oil and gas production would be irresponsible as a switch to renewable energy isn't happening fast enough he's also said that he wouldn't he wouldn't be economically viable during the cost of living crisis as it could cause energy bills to soar even further now this all comes as the world's swords's hottest recorded temperature earlier this week so what do you think should the government cut oil and gas production to help climate change or will it just take make the poorest people in society even poorer or will it even is it even relevant will it even work right so joining me to discuss prior Brian cat he's an engineering physicist also Sean iris is there from just stop oil he's a spokesperson right so um I'm going to start with you Brian cat okay I don't know what he's doing hi all right okay Brian so the Sean boss has said that um it won't we shouldn't do this is irresponsible uh talk to me about where you stand with it well it is totally irresponsible the world depends on fossil fuels for most of its energy about 85 of total world energy uses fossil fuels um even in the UK it's 73 um and there's no way you can transition to Renewables because there isn't enough renewable energy to replace that so what are you going to retransition to nuclear well they're not planning to build a lot of that anytime soon so it's a complete nonsense to say we must transition when we haven't got anything to transition to that means shutting down the economy and going back to Medieval Times basically oh by the way it's not uh the hottest week it's ever been it was a lot warmer every summer during the Egyptian and Roman periods two degrees warmer than now so that's complete nonsense oh well well we'll check our sources but thank you for that Sean uh Sean Irish just up well uh yeah thank you for having me on that yet we are from just stop oil we're demanding that the UK government and new fossil fuel licenses and you know Brian is to an extent correct the UK government at the moment isn't putting in The Replacements that we need that is why we are demanding that they do so at the moment the UK government is investing more into fossil fuels just rosebank alone will completely destroy our climate targets you know um Brian is a scientist or so I've heard um has he published any accredited papers since his career started in 1980. Brian he asked you have you published any accredited papers sorry yes I have they're they're out there on the web one on energy and one on the volcanism and volcanism and its effects on uh the interglacial period which we're currently in well he's so he has Sean he has Sean so there you go isn't before that it's actually before that there's an earlier one let's let's just 1968 I also published a paper on radiation physics Health physics protect radiation protection but I've been in Industry most of the time and what you don't do in industry is publish papers telling your competition what you're doing disagreeing with your aim but it hasn't the boss the shop at a point that what you're pushing for and why you're participating this way we're already going there anyway but as long as we can but if we go too quickly it won't be beneficial to anybody we're not going to do it it's not going to work well I think shell has a vested interest in making sure we stay away from the fossil fuel I stay with fossil fuels of course he's currently right again the UK government is not investing as it's shown in Renewables UK government has signed up to the energy Charter which means adding money to the fossil fuel industry loses will be matched with taxpayers money and that is completely wrong we need to be incentivizing the free market by pulling away from these deals and actually allowing green energy to to survive and thrive we should be allowing companies to use the fossil fuel art use Renewables at the market rate which means pulling out of these things wind tide solar these are all cheaper two to three times cheaper currently at the moment nine times cheaper at the height of the energy crisis if we pulled away from these things and actually let the free market decide then we would be in a much better place than currently what we've got Brian well that that is of course rubbish the cheapest by far or cheapest not by far cheapest by a reasonable margin of Lifetime cost is nuclear well known all you do is go to the iea and look at their regularly published every five years review of the cost of energy um and we the only thing you can replace fossil use with the 73 that even we have in the UK is with nuclear because Renewables are simply not there's not enough energy in Renewables to actually provide the energy we need currently never 330 terawatt hours never mind the uh powering cars and piecing homes there just isn't enough energy so and it's more expensive by the way it definitely that's to say that what I said at the first in the beginning go and look at the actual numbers they're just cherry picking if you look at the actual cost the best thing to do with all this is to let the market decide as he said take rate all subsidies away from everything um if people have to borrow money up front as you do with nuclear because it's quite expensive to build one but then it runs for 60 years for next to nothing then you might have to balance out the fiscal equation but no actual um no actual subsidy at all that then let the market decide I think you you make an interesting point but the majority of climate scientists disagree with you the ipcc reports disagree with you the United Nations disagrees with you the International Energy and it disagrees with you you know we are saying these are what these are say that we need to immediately invest and start getting into renewable energy that is a given even if we started with nuclear now your nuclear physicist you know yourself from planning to building is about 20 years and then from build to another 20 years is what it takes to go carbon neutral we haven't got that type of time we have got this chance to respond to what you said briefly we're only got about 20 seconds okay well it takes seven years to build a nuclear power station the ipcc have no remit to talk about energy they don't understand it and just saying we should do it when it can't work is Bonkers um you this you don't go and do something which you know is economic suicide you accept that we're in a climate crisis now there is no climate crisis I suggest you look at the Clinton declaration you might understand a bit more about it okay if you disagree with the ipcc the majority of scientists so I think that's a good news good to know where you're coming from that you disagree with science well well you do just belong to a group of 1500 scientists who absolutely disagree with this because it's not wrong it doesn't stack up there's no evidence to support the claims of the ipcc it's all made in models not real what can I just very briefly ask you then uh Sean are you happy with the fact that one of the things that suggesting was to build a load of pylons over 100 miles worth of pylons to support the whole idea of electricity and everything powered by electricity I mean surely that's damaging to the environment pylons have to be built to supply energy anyway regardless where they're offering to do that I mean surely that's quite detrimental to the environment I mean are you comfortable with that I'm not familiar what you're talking about now so I will last well last week then in the papers they were saying basically kiss Tom one of his plans was they're going to have hundreds of miles of pylons Brian is is pylons hundreds and thousands I didn't say thousands but we've already got thousands of miles per hour yeah well they're going to put some more up to support your your idea of this energy Brian briefly to you you you have to triple if you wanted to Electrify transport well not lorries because that really doesn't work if you wanted to Electrify most transport and heating then you would have to Triple the electricity Supply in the UK to do that you'd have to build three times as much grid capacity and that's not just the pylons that have to dig up the whole of the built environment um pull out all the Transformers that are in people's back Gardens and around the place up on poles in the country everywhere everything has to be three times bigger the Transformers the underground cables in cities and the pylons well listen none of it sounds realistic Brian cat thank you very much and also someone iris from Justin foil thank you so much

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Published: Sat Jul 08 2023