Just Melvin, Just Evil - Classic Documentary about Abuse

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did you molest Denise no what about pamby no when I was three that's when he started with his penis yes I read how you'd bring them into your bedroom ask them to rub your back you wore no clothes and then then you'd have them lie next to you and you would molest them bringing me into the bedroom and saying you know you know rub my neck can you gonna rub my you don't remember of molesting Jenice I did lead into some type of sucking his dick or some I'm not you know June and Jerry no goddamn it touched me fondled me and told me don't you tell you mom there's all kinds of things that happen here why did you do that I didn't do that son of a bitch now shut up now it's time to weep time to laugh a time to mourn and a time to dance [Music] [Applause] [Music] I didn't even know what fucking once in the second grade and nobody said not to do it or not to fuck your cousin our parents were in the front of the mobile home playing cards and we were in the back bedroom she lost her virginity when she was 4 years old but it didn't start with us and it didn't start with our parents it started with our grandparents a long long time ago I decided to go back home and put the pieces of a long-forgotten puzzle together for the first time what was grandma's personality like back then she was cold I can remember her and dad would get ready to go out and remember she'd have her fingernails done and her hair done beautiful and it was like don't touch mom don't mess up her hair stay away till she had a few drinks then she's happy-go-lucky right she never worked panties she'd stand in the front yard spread her legs and pee that's our mother real class act how many times have you been married fine but only for a new for tonight and your first husband was Elmer and yet how many kids were there who were they the oldest floor two hands and Jim reviews memories be living out in Hanceville had a creek ran through when the rains came who was out there playing with little boats make little different channels and stuff like that Oh my earliest memory is probably when I was about 2 or 3 years old when they'd out in the country down the country road was a mom-and-pop store and gas station stuff and I remember hopping on my little tricycle to go down there and see my friend and my mother came after me with a willow switch and switched me all the way home we had all worked at berry fields your mother was out there Jim didn't do much to play around and then ditches but we picked berries all summer to make money and that's where we're gonna get our new school clothes shoes the hallward's they had an old chicken house or something there so in our off time out of the fields we would over clean this chicken house up and we'd literally wrote our own script for a little play he did a theater thing we run against all of the arrows there to come and see this play we put on a show phone so I knew entertainment was my line they were only kids and I don't mean return when they were labeling yeah really true of his appearing you know mom and had a contest with the guys one night out drinking gonna feared about this I didn't hear about this she bet she could be hired and they could and so they're okay they're ready to have this contest she says no hands she won and she bragged about that and her big thrill was to hide the guys undershorts stuff him under the car any of the seat whatever so whenever they were finished they couldn't find him and she brought him home she had all sizes okay thirteen years old and I'm seeing what's going on here under search the men's jockey shorts I remember that we lived behind the pita Weiser tavern right mom decided she was gonna leave dad it only took three months to get a divorce back then and like the day or two after the divorce was final she married Melvin Jess and she was already a month pregnant and then he married just that was Melvin just so he became the stepfather of he was the stepfather of myself the twins and Noble Jeff that grandpa just was your stepfather for how many years quite a few years comes well over a decade oh yeah yeah and it was also comments well he's not marrying our mother he's marrying her because she has three young daughters I was 12 years old at the time they were married and it just totally just destroyed our lives what was grandpa just personality like very caring person as far as I could tell they were happy so I mean I never saw him beating on my I was a punch bag to them you remember my mother Annamarie oh yeah what do you remember that nice little girl cute little girl one night they come home drinking and he was just literally beating the hell out of her she's down on the floor she had long hair and he's dragging her across the floor saying he was gonna take her out and run over with car and I ran in his closet and got his 12-gauge shotgun and pulled the trigger it just clicked cuz it wasn't loaded then he saw me and come across the room and threw me you put your hands down my mother's she tried to shoot you with the gun you were beating my grandma she pulled a rifle out and tried to shoot you stayed there but the gun was not loaded so he knew you tried to kill him how did he treat you he always treated me good I got a brand-new bicycle for my 13th birthday brand-new Schwinn I think we were on welfare you know he was still after me that guy could fix any damn thing from a roller skate to an earthmover is probably the sharpest guy with a wrench I've ever seen what was life like then pretty mixed up pretty confusing just kind of crunched around and found a break in you know the old style batteries found a brick put a couple screws in there jumped up in that thing it started to talk to screws if the damn thing was running him long in our family and there was nothing else kid to do about it he took the engine out of the Bonneville adapted everything over it and put it in that Plymouth I was a hottest old car I ever seen I mean a guy will take two cats and tie the tails together and let him fight over clotheslines he'll when I'm dead that's a character he can always add to make his lunch and always wanted you know like two bologna sandwiches and this and that I used to admit inevitably the foil on the Bologna you haven't said the name of it damn you Jim you did it again we'd heard rumors of things that he had done but nothing ever pinpointed down and no one wanted to believe it especially our mother and killed the murdered the county nurse here highway 36 everybody knows it which kids did Grandma and Grandpa just half together they had June and Jerry joy and they were about two years apart so they're your half sisters mm-hmm geez you're a beautiful too much alcoholic like I was for now is younger hey go to bed drinking and as soon as I wake up say it's 3:00 in the morning it's time for a beer and a cigarette go to sleep wake up about five six styrodur in Syria and when I'm up at 8:00 for the rest of the day I'm drinking then are you down Pollak yeah actually I am are you addicted to drugs no have you been in the past yes lots for a long time I used to sell drugs I made my living selling drugs I can't even look at my own two little sisters knowing he destroyed them June and Jerry he destroyed them and my mother went along with it [Applause] so you've been watching grandma getting progressively less enthused about living get to where I could niche and couldn't walk couldn't even get around in the wheelchair I didn't hear from mom ever since I moved back into this area ten years ago my brother I just liked him for what he's doing my mom what is his profession now in home care i've actually pulled three of her teeth you talk about a gutsy default pliers she'd sit there in the doorway and i take their pliers and yank him out there's one of them had to try three times it was evidently went up and curved the third time i tried it i went ahead and did a little bit of a twist on it and i came back see you got girl cry well mom is upset because Uncle Jim is still letting you drink a lot of beer and six beers she's wasted does Uncle Jim drink with her nope does he fire the beer yep enjoy my beer and we talked to the doctor and if she eats right he's going to permit her to have that beer the doctor told me I could and I think he knows better than and does he told you if she wants two or three beers before she goes to bed it's all right can't take everything away from her that's if she'll eat 50% of her supper meal she gets in she gets that as a reward so psychology you know I'll tell you what to reach his life right now suppose the twins came that kind of gave the wheel there's a tear in your beer because I'm crying for you dude you were always on my mind into these last few beers you don't think it's the drinking that is doing grandma in right now no I think that's one day it's keeping her going I wait her night before last she had 16 ounces of beer before she went to bed she weighed 72 pounds take away sixteen sixteen ounces of beer he's back down to 17 pounds she'd be up to 85 if you come to with 10 more pounds of beer she can't handle ten pounds how is uncle Jim now huh how was Uncle Jim down how is he you know he propositioned Jerri when she's totally down and out to come and live with him and he'll take care of her but to be his like his wife delivers a couple sexual satisfaction is where he put it the only reason I did it is because I don't want being alone Jerry has not had a home in years he wanted me to live with him and sleep with him I'm Jerry make something of yourself I will help you she gave us some thought why do you think she'd have a problem basically being your wife I almost had dawned on you Oh oh shit I think he's sick okay this is trying to get me and I think yesterday I I hadn't seen him for a long time when I was living up and Washington he came and he seen me and we went for a walk out in the apple orchard cuz I was working at an apple orchard and he grabbed my boob I think two consenting adults whatever they deem is right is right you know to hell with what the rest there is having sex with your daughter eating right there's a lot of guys that do it I went like that and just said knock it off and I headed back to the house to kill someone that's definitely wrong but to have sex with a stepsister I don't see where that is all that wrong well half-sister you have the same mother okay what advice did you give Jerry I just told her I said well it's up to you how do you feel about him now I won't put myself in a position to be alone with him for nothing nowhere what did you say I turn no I can't do this Jim you're my brother I can't live with you I can't sleep with you you're my brother don't you get it so I was five years old when one of my uncle's molested me we were down in the basement of our house where my mom made apple jelly it was really dark he was already hard when he unzipped his pants and pulled out his penis and asked me to play with it I just did what he said I was curious about everything why not grownups penis it wasn't sexual to me it was sexual to him I was just a little kid [Music] since Uncle Jim was abused as a kid my grandpa just his stepfather I asked him about the relationship back then well as far as Melvin was concerned I couldn't do nothing right mom and him came in I was asleep that was a pallet on the floor and this must be me mom and then Melvin and that guy somehow had her drunk enough that he ended up in the middle and he woke me up with his hands down my clothes and all over and then I've got up out of bed screaming and saying mom what's going on here and he act like he was half-asleep and soon nothing's going on and she says what's wrong with you you get back into bed I says no way I went only got in the corner is child molester what he was he tried to take my younger sister into a bedroom I knew what was going on which one and my mom yeah your Aunt Jean and aunt Jen and I were rehearsing for a song we were going to sing the next day in Sunday school mom was out drinking he had come home and went to bed and pretty soon he hollers anna-marie and he hollered two or three times and I went to his bedroom door and he said get over here he pulled me down on top of him I thought that might be the end of it wasn't that lucky I went in went to bed and pretty soon Melvin came in gotten bad and within a couple minutes he's reaching over and putting his hands in my pajamas down into my panties my mom's been suicidal my whole life I used to pretend over and over in my head that she was dead so if it actually happened I wouldn't freak out and just lose it one of the last calls in fact the last call I that gets my head from her about committing suicide she was in the bathtub had already sliced her wrists there's been more than one time when I did try to commit suicide how overdosing on pills I slashed my wrists and then got into a warm bath tub I mean I'd be on a phone with her for long enough for her to bleed to death and she was making sure to keep the water warm just to make her bleed faster have you attempted suicide well twice and then once I was overwhelmed again but I'm a shotgun out was no she was soon I remember stretching backstage at this dance competition I got a call that my mom had hooked a hose up to her exhaust pipe and fed it through the window of her convertible I hooked the hose up to my car I called the paramedics and just went out on stage our champions hail from the Los Angeles Valley doors she hosts her own music video show in London England and James Whitney who was a Chippendales dancer going for third victory this evening welcome James and Sally i sat there concentrating on the routine and acted as though nothing happened grandpa just destroyed my family and almost destroyed my mom when I'm finished with him he'll either be in jail or he'll be dead that's a promise we can't just sit back and act like we're victims or we become the losers it's all about finding a way to survive if your mom kills herself shame on her but you can't let it destroy you talk about it get angry about it do whatever you've got to do but don't give up when I decide I better stop this stuff is when you came in the hospital room one time you were in college and you were so mad at me you were so mad even when my mom cries it's hard for me to go up and just put my arms around her how could you do this I wouldn't wasn't doing something to you I didn't mean to be doing it to you [Music] when things get heavy I'd rather sit down at the keyboards and write a song and just deal with it through music the more my family told me the heavier things got I was determined to keep my promise but for some reason Melvin and myself and the kids went divorce instead he got tired one evening he took the two little girls in the back and I remember the truck rock I had a piece of sand in my eye I guess you know how irritating that is there's no way that I could sleep and I kind of yelled at him you know think the baby he get the sand out of my eye he's like shut up and go to sleep I don't want to hear another word out of you I think I was 15 at the time but just you know the motion was truck and everything you tell what's going on did you ever tell the authorities what he was doing yeah but they couldn't prove nothing but you still stayed with them for a while yeah did you ever say anything to him what the authorizing when June was two years old is when I walked in and found him molesting her in bed I had already told you part of this though that I suspected what was going on mom would get up and act like she's going to fix the bottle and then she would take Jim out of bed take her diaper off and put her in bed with Melvin he made it a point to let her by know he slept in the nude there are all kinds of things that happened here which of the kids were you closest to June is kind of your favorite yeah you know my mother actually walked in on the two of you when he was molesting you is it because you block all of this out that you don't rent sure of it I'm sure of it do you remember giving Jerry and her friends tampons to have sex with him no tampons I mean that was a good one for him when we got on the Ray yeah running by a stamp özil if you need to do something or something wait a minute yeah that's not too good that's sick I've always been very close with June and Jerry and even though they're intelligent their lives are pretty messed up my mom has a very high IQ and survived by learning about these psychos even to this day she reads about Ted Kaczynski Jeffrey Dahmer helter skelter was unbelievable and rule the stranger beside meathead bending there was Norman Mailer wrote the executioner's song what is your IQ well the last time we checked it was 160 and yours was 158 and you've been trying to you've been competing with me ever since but that's how I raised you to be competitive my mom never gave up and she raised me not to give up I wanted to do whatever I could to help her with the past so I just kept on trying to learn all the different pieces of the puzzle [Applause] the judges give James and Sally three and three-quarter stars and we would watch game shows we didn't watch game shows we've competed with these game shows which you know that paid off for you because later you went on a couple of dates again that's very fine you made a lot of money doing that morning alarm clock yes one down three to go okay digging shoveling Spade pile a hole I moved on to the next competition and grandpa just moved on to his next family my dad left my mom for Venise and that is a fact he left mom for Venice Benson who lived down the road who had a bunch of little girls and he ended up with her and those little girls and he molested every one of them and the reason he left my mom for venes is because she had all those young daughters at least once or twice during them practically hope just after this girl in one minute we were pissed off for that girl so we were moving bed stir periodically the niece was known second wife after you she's still living what was beneath like she was okay mom that she was ignorant she was like my mom oh no he wouldn't be doing that and yeah she talked to me on the phone one time yeah he was more than she could take care of I said oh you wanted him baby take care of him she said well if I just had a little help around man I said well I didn't have any help with them I don't think I was that line but maybe I was but I was there constantly I wasn't out and about drinking or anything I was there all the time with my kids [Music] and II was born in 16 Denis was born at 62 what's your relationship like with Vinny snow right now beyond Bobby was born in 65 oh yeah Manya she just played it off like it was normal routine no no no you got what no uncle grandpa hydrogen ease and 79 did you know what did you tell her what happened oh yeah we all did all of us did I mean you know three times I came to her no I just said mom I'm feeling like it's my fault like I you're all mad at me and she said hey is it your fault is it no mom straight up although I believed what my aunt's told me venes deny that they ever talked to her about the abuse who are your real sisters and who are your half sisters I've got so many to count Mel is my dad her dad in June's bed is my mom she was barefoot and pregnant when she had Pam be his natural children that he fathered is June and Jerry joy with my mother and Janice with Vinicius Benson those are his natural children as far as stepchildren there's your aunt Jan and Aunt Jane the twins myself your uncle Jim we were Hurst of his first stepchildren when he left my mother and what was the niece the stepchildren would have been Pam be Denise and Bobby would have been his stepdaughters but this is where I live this here was given to me mm-hmm this camper I mean it's pretty trash but it was given to me from a friend of mine and that's my refrigerator oh you want to see my fridge I live it in the back of a Nissan pickup there's only room now for a bed and I have my dog my two cats a new boyfriend and anything we have to keep with us it's right there beside us who can sleep with it and they're gonna my freezer Hey this is for the fourth of July what are those vodka cherries you need to clean it up if you had none we were coming right this is we're coming to my house now this is where I live come on in oh I'm sure more lights the two of you here dog you're forever a Jane Curtin III do have brain damage just falling out of trees you know just bumping my head too many times who taught you how to walk the Shriners did did your mother teach you no but I taught her with a stroller mm she had to push the stroller the kids would pull it and make her walk didn't like that well then she got to move it around and then we lost it what exactly are you diagnosed with ehlers-danlos syndrome she was born congenital no hip sockets no knee joint and a clubfoot which is sounds worse than what it is and then they tried to tell me she was retired to what she was she is a retired she's small you know these seen those kind of people but my daughter had this attitude that yay look at me I'm gonna get attention by preying on this [Music] she had everybody buffaloed bit their mother so how far back do you remember what age age of five where were you living who who was raising you Denise and Melvin it started when I was two I was two years old instead of a lesson and then and then when I was 878 sick man then he started to molest me at the age of five he started doing sex with me like kind of pretty you know what inside of me I was too small when I was three that's when he started with his penis yes twisting doing the twisting child you know who could do the twist and I did the twist and she I won 25 cents oh yeah if he doesn't corner of the way inside of me I would get paid a quarter or half away 50 cents the hallway was a dollar [Music] what if you just said no he wouldn't listen to the word null he didn't like the word null twist him doing the twist and shout every time I turn around I was gonna get molested get poked by the ride by the cop okay you might call it prick I didn't like the smell and he was dirty it was never clean he never wore short he had an awful odor I mean I don't worry sometimes here but they sound clean who didn't take shower you gave her a quarter you were allowed to go a quarter of the way yet who could do the twist $0.50 half way don't be stupid [Music] he abused my rights as an adult as a child as an infant what was the worst crime he did in your mind [Music] have you ever strangled anybody that heard the night chatter thanks well they get to finish now but they won't bring him down here no they have tried to say that over the years because somebody started the rumor that he did that do you remember when I went to visit grandma and went over to Grandpa Jess was this at the same time that was going on well he and mom were already separated and I had let you go spend 4 or 5 days and the first thing she just took you out loaded you all in the car and took you down to Melbourne just knowing that he's a child molester why would you have taken me over there did you trust him at that turn yes do you want to see your grandpa my own mother did that to me but she knew it was molesting the kids at that time no I didn't know it for sure when I was in a little stroller I've gone over to Fey's house Bobby recalled when she was in a little stroller grandpa just would drive in and you had warned Bobby to back like she was asleep what was that all about he was my last Jimmy at what age she was very old and he was having sex with me one time he had both of his leg on one leg on each leg was I told him he was crashing them he didn't listen long as he got what he wanted then the nightmares ma'am breathing on me and knowing then he's gonna carry me into the bedroom and the whole nine yards and I was a child bringing me into the bedroom and said you know you rub my neck can you gonna rub my kidney and rub me you know yeah it did lead into some type of sucking his dick or something I'm not you know I don't I'm pretty foggy he tends to living in that house Ron I was only three four five six seven eight years old all those years you put the bed gay on his penis and stick it inside of me sorry I still got the scar inside of me been scar first started out as color crayons how many color crayons you can use [Music] to penetrate up inside you without it hurtin no once when you get up to four or five let me know [Music] which colors were they then it was all about hot dogs not the hot dogs you buy the store but this was a link you can stick one of those up there near least halfway let me know why would you tell him when you could I didn't know no better I thought it was the thing to do that everybody's parents it did that he says well I'll tell you what this is how it is says Ida fuck my sister my sister fucks my dad my dad fucks my mom and my mom fucks the mailman that write on my fucking frog [Laughter] [Music] it was always me by myself whenever he decided to take me someplace either to the dump or was mainly to the dump prostitution okay well we were out in the dumps and the dumps where nobody could hear you scream nobody could hear you cry it hurts but then it would meet somebody on the way back and he would exchange cash or whatever or whatever and said now you got to go down here and please him either give him a head job or spread your legs and you better be nice because if you ain't nice I'm taking out on you later he got money lots of money just pictures he even took pictures that's sick he told me to be experimental and who I experimented on was Jerry she really liked it so you got stuff all over my face yeah I think yeah I'm her sister experiences but from what I see no they don't I was walking down the beach yeah started back and there was a struck coming and it was dark seeing his headlights coming I all kinds of different pills coatings and valiums and all kind of Downers what's your relationship like with June Jenna end up using me and abusing me and telling me it was okay and she was molesting you yeah but these pills were taking effect and I never told anybody I took them and I just was walking like that nonchalantly and when it got close enough I stepped right out and burned it first slice and slice of my wrist a couple of times I tried to commit suicide at the age of 16 to I tried to go to try to draw myself taking my car going up to the mountains and want and drive it off the side you know I mean how did you try to drown yourself by walking through water and then it got deeper and deeper I walked in with my braces on and with all of the girls this is what's happened to him it things become so overwhelming you just want out or you want help and you can't get out and you can't get help and look where they are today trying to OD on cough syrup and beer I had to have mouth-to-mouth an ambulance came in it breaks my heart it breaks my heart and what can I do I'm gonna do something [Music] [Applause] we both said we'd do something but we didn't know what to do here our Morgan Sandberg and Ron Whitney mom kept attempting suicide I kept competing in dance contests and game shows we did rent a motor home and went to visit everybody life just went on grandma and venes kept denying everything and grandpa just kept on molesting the kids over and over and over please let this be over let this be done quit doing this to me Jenice is your own child really and at age two you began molesting her really come on now hello neighbor voices art black boy yes I know we see that white shirt over there I wish I could have white Cadillac like that yeah they look black voices not mean you know what I wish I was had hair all over my body over my body and they go hey hair all over your body yeah my sister got a patch this big Jim Beauchamp a number when I came to visit you on Morgan Road yeah you know we took a little trip up there then we ran the motorhome and off we went of course we had to stop and see them I mean their family that's when I was 16 I know we can't have anything together tell you get some hair I know my family's not exactly normal I'm not even sure what normal is supposed to be I've had no kids that raised three monkeys my wedding was a lot of fun but it wasn't traditional or emotional [Music] I need you we've had some pretty lousy experiences but we've never lost our sense of humor and it's okay that not everybody gets it train up a child in the way she should go they are old they will not turn from it how do you feel about Jenice Jenny's she's my sister I love her but I worry about her why for what she's doing to the kids and then what she's gonna introduce her kids to prostitution criminals what do you mean drug addicts what do I mean looking at her I mean you look at her okay maybe if she don't get a piece of ass maybe you know I'm Frankie gets a little older you know hey get her in here boy daughter to you what about Clarissa Clarissa I'm hoping she's smarter there's a kidney baby mama love this is her straight-a student Clarissa cycles of abuse tend to continue did that happen with Clarissa with Frankie no I got molester now seven and I felt like it was my fault I did something bad but I thought that I deserved it and it was a punishment there's the this is like the only really badging that I get scared is this rope and it comes closer and closer and I don't know what it means but it I don't have him anymore where are you standing I'm hit I'm standing on the other side of the room and the rope is coming directly at you yeah do you feel safe in life in general now yeah who makes you feel safe my mom my brother sometimes he can be a real brat and imagine my mom's boyfriend are you close with grandpa grandpa just sort of I don't see it much anymore how do you feel when you go around him I feel sad but you know he's a child molester and you know what he did to your mom why would you want to feel close with him because it's I will always love him but it he won't be forgiven but he's part of a family years ago when she was just a girl and joong-won the police about grandpa just I get headache being a vessel lien and a hot dog day for dog to play with and I wouldn't got all that stuff out of there and gave it to the police and that and but my little sisters would not talk about it they went up to the cops went up to the school and everything but they wouldn't say nothing the kids wouldn't say nothing so they didn't do nothing to him about it in 1980 my aunt's were finally willing to testify grandpa just was arrested he was charged with 12 counts of child molestation so you and Jerry's got on the stand yeah and I just draw a picture of a penis and I did it was crowded I felt all along even God wasn't even with me those of you oh I saw some looks I try not to look at him because it went to grand jury I tried to look at the juror I couldn't even do that he was found guilty and given 13 years he served eight when they took him away the family felt like somebody finally listened to what they had to say a ton of bricks instantly just like flew off my shoulders I was free when did he go to jail Oh in about 1980 cuz he was in for eight years and got out in 88 look at all those years all those kids and here he only got eight years you know inside you just want to take that machine gun and just cut him right in half yeah then he turns around and tells the court that you can't ease intimate he can't if I can get it up excuse me yeah excuse me oh yeah your mom she's no good mm-hmm what yeah you're the best yeah yeah the most disgusting human being God ever created and he taught me to hate where did you say you grew up I grew up right here no place else right here how long did you live here about thirty years you got you have a birthday coming up no your tag what that's what it was and Father's Day was last match yeah did anybody come and visit you oh god damn it Vinny's didn't come to visit no do that over the bank where I used to take him out to threads for biscuits and gravy well I can't do that anymore just it's too too hard to do and so I've just decided I'll take them doing did you molest Denise no what about pamby No well I talked to them in depth about it I bet the court transcripts and now I'm taking a pancake I read how you'd bring them into your bedroom ask them to rub your back you wore no clothes and then then you'd have them lie next to you and you would molest them do it so every Sunday now you bring him blueberry pancakes yeah I'm not there winning things I should be there that he growled you don't remember holding pamby down hurting her legs and her telling you to get off of her no no buddy you don't remember of molesting Jenice nope June and Jerry no goddamnit remember giving Jerry and her friends tampons to have sex with them Oh you even put bengay on your penis and penetrated pamby with it you've never doing that No you burned her physically inside why did you do that I didn't do that son of a bitch now shut up now you gave her a quarter if you were allowed to go a quarter of the way in fifty cents half way one dollar all the way don't be stupid [Music] but I'm going to show you how goddamn able I am to get above this wheelchair and not the dog shit right out of you you want to think you want to see that huh how evil are you do you want to see tell me I'd say you want to see you put your hands down my mother's panties uh-huh you wet you put your hands down my mother's panties she tried to shoot you with the gun you were beating grandma she pulled a rifle out and tried to shoot you but the gun was not loaded she made that up right yeah they all made everything up right yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] when I asked you about that incident that happened with the nurse he told me that you had nothing to do with it right I tried to get grandpa Jess to finally confess to the 1969 murder of the nurse she was a social worker who'd been assigned to protect the children what does it feel like to strangle somebody hello I know because you strangled the nurse I did not instead I turned to my family for some answers her name was Josephine I forget the last name it was like Spiegel or something like that I think she's 5 945 pounds dark hair kind of gruff didn't to live by herself we were told that she wore men's pajamas and smoked a pipe and was on a masculine side she kept an itinerary and the last thing on her schedule she had been to one house and was on her way to the just house she walked in unannounced they had a bed in the living room and he was in bed with one of the girls and he's laying there with me all right and then he goes hey you and I go what he goes go in your room and take a nap so I went into my room we heard screaming and hollering she goes I am NOT gonna let you hurt these Benson kids like you hurt your own the nurse was going to tell tell the cops about what was going on with those kids and he didn't like that idea and what would he say he would slap her just up and slap her she tried to leave and he grabbed her there was kind of a struggle it was like both you better kill me because I'm gonna hurt you what did you hear the voice say he's saying he was gonna kill her next thing I know is he grabbed the stupid iron of some sort he took a fireplace poker and hit her in the head anyway went boom knocked her down slammed her up against the wall is what I heard slammed up against the wall boom I heard the wall I heard her slam heard the lace seeing the buttons next thing you know is she ended up on the ground I started to scream I was in my bedroom under and underneath the bed hiding from it hiding from it and I said fucking shut the door cuz he looked at me and he was humping on her I seen that he was killing her and her at the same time you actually were screwing her while you were strangled when you got knocked in Ariadna I didn't know he was humping her I mean I knew he was humping her but I didn't know it was killing her until the next day when I seen all the blood what does that feel like I don't know what it feels like you have knots in your hair he took a polygraph examination and flunked it miserably and one of the questions what did you did you kill the nurse why would they make something like that out don't have any idea if you score a minus seven on a polygraph examination you're considered deceptive that's word they use he scored a minus sixteen did you remember the police asking you questions about it he didn't ask me a question divided he denied and denied and denied and then at one point near the end of this interview I asked him about the fireplace poker the police never investigated no I know they did I spoke to the police you're lying or they're lying one or two and expression came over his face to me was how do you know about that did you remember Lonnie Lawson yeah and he finally near the end he leaned forward in his chair and he slapped himself on the leg he said okay I'm gonna tell you okay I'm rolana awesome he's scooted forward in the chair and I knew he was gonna that point tell me that he did this what did you tell him happened then he said no knowing threw his hands up weighed them around and said no and step back and that's all he he didn't say no I didn't do it he said no I didn't tell him nothing that happened I came back met with the district attorney's office presented the case to them along with a warrant I wanted to arrest Melvin just I felt there's enough evidence to arrest I think there is today Nolan just got away with murder they can prove it now the case is open they can prove it I called the niece and told her I was coming back up there and she said that he had had a stroke because he's in a nursing home California would have to extradite him back and pay the cost of his nursing home then we'll do that I was gonna see from my own my myself what his condition was and I was stopped from doing that by a neurosurgeon who was treating him and said that he wasn't gonna allow the police to interview him so at this point that can be shown that he is in fact coherent will he be arrested to district attorney's office it have the final say-so and if I had anything to say about it I would say that they should issue a warrant for his arrest file murder charges it show warrant and bring him back to California to stand trial on murder schemes we couldn't do which I wish we would have give me an example of one of those schemes melvin gus killed that nurse is sure as I'm sitting here right now not a doubt in my mind when it came around the door just make sure we had just the right enough weight to just knock him in the head justice needs to be served shoot him I think that after talking to all the different kids that were were subject to Melvin just mistreatment that I think that would help them tie him up and torture him because of the pain and anguish that we felt and I've talked to every I mean I've talked to I can't remember all five six seven kids in this whole thing and saw what this has done to them and part of it I think that will may help them cut his throat I wish you could die tyranny of more than poison him with some rat poison and it's coffee because he always made us make his coffee and should be realize are you afraid to tell me the truth no I ain't afraid to tell you the truth if you're afraid to learn the goddamn truth I'd love to learn the truth now and let's go back to her car let's go back to the car cocksucker now he was pretty brave calling me a cocksucker I just wanted to push him off the boardwalk and into the Puget Sound but instead I pushed him back to the car because there were others who were already on their way to see him [Music] you know how that village it you get all this together and go through these problems mapping no you're not is no she's not we're all understand you know guilty all happiest point oh happy because I'm here and everything is you know is peaceful and you're yelling in my ear he got away with and that burns me so much that the truth that ends up coming back and you get hurt worse because there was no punishment and each time that I mentioned it to somebody they said I was crazy his last attempt was only two years ago on pamby she told me about it herself my mom stopped attempting suicide a few years ago I stopped dancing Denise stopped going to AAA and the girls stopped by to pay somebody a visit now it's my daddy hi Daddy hello sweetheart he say he's gonna eat been doing taken girls around you fast huh yeah yeah yeah dang it I don't believe I was ever penetrated by him for the simple reason that when I was 15 and I was engaged I finally gave my virginity away and I bled after sex unlike my little sister who don't ever recall bleeding after shed that is that what it would have taken for you to consider you were molested as for him due to penetrated you oh no no no no fumble ism it's all molestation I kept telling you I was on my way though yeah yeah you did yes yes I did and now I just want to give you a big old hug and a kiss hi like me now I love you now [Music] now I guess all the way when nobody stopping [Music] no braces no crutches don't nothin I have to see you that way babe tried to see you up and about says you got a room by yourself I don't think I would be when is the last time Melvin just attempted to in the last year a couple years ago he told me he was gonna take me out for my birthday and it ended out that he took me out to the woods he knew I couldn't run I had one leg that was fused and one leg that was in a brace and he told me to keep it a secret but he did pay me he did pay yeah he paid me a dollar because it went in all the way but it did her can't believe I lower myself so much I put myself through so much shit just like in the flesh life is just not like that to put back on a shelf to forget my ass you can only forget so long till somebody brings it up or bottle breaks and then you have to complete this shit up fuck [Music] and I want to hurt myself because I think if I don't have a release then that just keeps it it feels like this big bomb inside of me that just wants to explode I'm ready to go he just goes on as though nothing ever happened Graham and venes say oh that's just melvin but i'll never let him forget what he did to my mom or to the rest of the family so why did you molest the children i didn't molest two goddamn kids if you don't get out that sometimes you can know it you pretty quick [Music] I never did get off that fucking subject but I did keep my promise [Music] although he somehow managed to escape a life in prison a few months after our last conversation Melvin just died [Music] I want to greet all of you here today and let you know we appreciate you being here and we've come to honor the memory of Melvin just colossians 3:22 on obey your parents and everything for this pleases the Lord it also pleases your parents and then we'll turn around and please you again because they'll treat you nice you'll do about anything for him Melvin's first wife Faye which is she could be here any second and present wife Venise who is here his three natural daughters June Jerry and Jenice also his stepdaughters Bobby Denise Pam B and Anne and some of his grandkids among them is Ron Clarissa and Frankie God created man in his own image in the image of God he created him male and female he created them Melvin was a terrific mechanic he loved his cars he loved to read the Bible and read his Bible cover-to-cover several times not Jane so DP how hot this is mouth and I love him very dearly he's from my heart he treated me really bad and he treated me sorrow and he treated me with respect and he's my man and I understand that he's gone and I'm glad because he's a one of a guy I don't care what you say oh wait anybody else says but it comes from my heart girl and this or that I'm sorry yes what's going on who was it that came up that was Bobby I'm Jerry I don't know what you know about him nor anybody else think he was a very and ugly person to me because he's a child molester and a murderer but he was cool when he built beach buggies and let us have our fun with the down throw everybody would never want to sit on his lap I'm glad I'm actually glad he can't hurt nobody else yeah thank you Jeff hey Dad they're all dickhead okay give us some good memories also June the way they're acting they obviously had too much that ball I think I can throw myself okay my dad was an awesome man it was an awesome man he had his pelvis that's everybody sure everybody has their faults nobody's perfect they weren't meant to be perfect Jesus died on the cross for our sins thank you Lord for Melvin our friend of mechanic we commit to dust to dust we pray this memory will always linger with us we thank you for his memory today Jame Betty housewife throw dirt on it we're just very ladies you'll have to behave please at least I didn't say hey I had a glass to get permit no permission to come up and see about having sex do something with him so I can have some tampons you don't say that that was part of my fucking life with him you know you had different relationship friends I think what they should have done for my dad and everybody like is take in case tick off and soup Butch's forehead cuz it nothing dick hits I can't believe I do Doug my dad you crave will someone come in kind of controlling what's happening here June can I have that bottle I think it's a pretty nice one right now how about of wish that it stopped raining oh no because you know what the sun shining and if you watch right over here there should be a rainbow coming right up zip see it I'm telling you look it's right there I see it you bet you know right and that's God's promise that the earth will never be flooded again it's in the Bible in Jesus name and everybody said a man a man you

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Channel: Arin Kambitsis

Views: 7,200,140

Rating: 4.5142879 out of 5

Keywords: child Abuse, molestation, true crime, documentary, Educational, Evil, History, Television Show, Some, bbc documentary, extraordinary people, full length documentaries

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Length: 74min 36sec (4476 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 11 2012

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Small caveat - This is a fucked up documentary - it was interesting but will leave you with a sour taste and dissatisfaction. I wanted justice!

👍︎︎ 810 👤︎︎ u/GUMBYtheOG 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

man i actually just watched this whole thing and i cant even how many times i said "wtf!"

biological kids, stepkids from two different families, the social worker that mysteriously died, all the wierd ups and downs of emotions these poor women have as a result and the continued path of molestation for the grandchild, like how does the daughters who turned into mothers still allow the abuse from their father or stepfather or stepgrandpa...crazy.

👍︎︎ 87 👤︎︎ u/assassbaby 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

When my father died, my sister started going to therapy at roughly 35 years of age. She then revealed that our father and her had been involved in a sexual relationship when she was a teen, which explained a lot. At first we thought her therapy was helping, and confronting this issue instead of burying it would be cathartic.

I encourage anyone in that situation to seek any type of counseling that can help you to become more mentally healthy, but...in my sisters case, she took a turn for the worse, and used alcohol to rapidly drink herself to death. Until our father died, she seemed happy and well adjusted, with a fulfilling and satisfying life. I wish I could have learned the signs, and had protected her, or helped her survive.

👍︎︎ 854 👤︎︎ u/series_hybrid 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

I encourage readers to watch this documentary, it is tough; the people in it have dealt with a lot of pain, and still are.. however, it also helps to shed light on the complexity of relationships where this level of abuse has taken place. We like to think there is closure and justice and everyone moves through a universal experience and comes out alright in the end; but that is not reality. You stand to gain a lot of understanding, empathy and compassion; which you can give to someone who might need it, including yourself.

Cudos to the family for participating in and making this documentary, it is an important dialogue and you have told it with honesty and emotion.

👍︎︎ 183 👤︎︎ u/viv_001 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

I loved the ending. “Hey! Wait! I didn’t piss on his grave yet!” “Can someone uh... help control the situation here”.

Good on them. I hope those ladies have peace.

👍︎︎ 51 👤︎︎ u/LilPad93 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

I actually worked at the nursing facility he stayed in. Creepy knowing he lived in those halls, but he had already passed before I worked there.

I probably shouldn’t have watched after having some drinks because I cried for a while. Just knowing how much pain these people went through, and being in the same building he lived in was beyond disturbing.

Edit: Removed Identifying information.

👍︎︎ 325 👤︎︎ u/Thirsty89 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

5 mins in and I had to nope out of this one. I’ve watched a lot of docs about rough subjects but this is just too much.

👍︎︎ 101 👤︎︎ u/Stealthnt13 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

I’m like , 9 mins in, and hearing the girls’ descriptions of life, compared to the filmmaker’s uncle’s descriptions of that time after his gram married Melvin...wow. How night and fucking day.

Ok...back to watching...

👍︎︎ 39 👤︎︎ u/CordeliaGrace 📅︎︎ Sep 08 2018 🗫︎ replies

My gran had two male friends who made my sister and I super uncomfortable when we were kids. Their names were Nos and Dennis and they used to touch our bums.

Nos died thankfully but Dennis still walks around, everytime he sees my daughter he eyes her like she's fried chicken and I verbally beat him right the fuck down.

I'll say "don't you look at my daughter that way" and step between them or he'll try talk to her and say "and when are you coming to visit uncle Dennis" and I'll say to him, "never, I'll sooner feed her to the fuckin wolves than let you near her" and apparently I'm the rude one. Fortunately, when my daughter was born I gained perspective. I don't give a shit who I offend, she will not be harmed. I would rather wrongfully offend someone than put her in harms way even once because I was afraid to come across as rude.

👍︎︎ 33 👤︎︎ u/HowDaniDan 📅︎︎ Sep 09 2018 🗫︎ replies