WORLD. WE HAVEN'T LEARNED THE LESSON IN 1938 AND 1917. I MEAN,WE GOT TO TEACH HISTORY TO PEOPLE. >> SO, WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP IN ABOUT A YEAR. >> YEAH. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TWO LEADING CANDIDATES RIGHT NOW? >> OH, GOED, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. >> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL ME? >> I DID COME OUT AND MAKE A NICE STATEMENT ABOUT NIKKI HALEY. >> YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO NIKKI HALEY. >> IF YOU'RE A VERY LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, HELP NIKKI HALEY TOO. GET A CHOICE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE THAT MIGHT BE BETTER THAN TRUMP. >> IS THAT YOUR VIEW, THAT IT'S ANYTHING BUT TRUMP? >> I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE MIGHT BE THE PRESIDENT, AND I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT TOO. >> BUT WHEN HE WAS THE PRESIDENT, YOU SAID CRITICAL THINGS ABOUT HIM. >> YEAH, I DON'T MIND CRITICIZING THE PRESIDENT. YEAH. >> BUT YOU FEEL -- I MEAN, ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS, I THINK, IS ABOUT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE SPEAKING UP OR NOT ON POLITICS. THIS IS A BIG QUESTION, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET INTO THIS ELECTION. AND WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS IN THIS PARTICULAR UNIQUE MOMENT. >> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE KEVIN McCARTHY NEXT WHO GOT MAD AT ME BECAUSE WE TOOK A POINT OF VIEW ON SOMETHING. WHEN YOU SAY -- POLITICS IS PERSONAL, RIGHT? YOU ALL GET TO VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT. WE GET TO DEBATE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE GET INVOLVED IN POLICY. I WILL TELL YOU ALL THE -- WE'VE DONE A TERRIBLE JOB TAKING CARE OF OUR BOTTOM 30% OF EARNERS, SO YOU'RE ALL WEALTHY AND HAVE MONEY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THEIR AVERAGE WAGES ARE 15 TO $20 A YEAR. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO LOST THEIR JOBS IN COVID. THEY'RE THE ONES WHOSE HEALTH IS -- THEY'RE DYING FIVE OR SIX YEARS YOUNGER THAN THE REST OF US. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE. THEIR SCHOOLS DON'T WORK. THEY'RE DEALING WITH CRIME. WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE DONE AS A NATION? I AGREE WITH THAT. WE NEED TO FIX THAT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLICY, OBVIOUSLY, WE SHOULD -- WE NEED BETTER IMMIGRATION POLICY. WE NEED BETTER EDUCATION POLICY. WE NEED BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE PO POLICY. >> BUT YOU NEED PEOPLE ARE RUN THOSE POLICIES AND WHO DO YOU THINK IS DOGOING TO DO THE BETT JOB? >> WHEN DONALD TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT, I WENT TO SEE HIM AND JOINED THAT BUSINESS COUNCIL. THOSE THINGS ALMOST NEVER WORK, BY THE WAY. I LEFT AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE. MY DAUGHTER WROTE ME A LONG, ELEGANT LETTER AND QUOTED MARTIN LUTHER KING AT THE END. MY TWO DAUGHTERS AND WIFE SENT ME A QUICK EMAIL SAYING, DITTO. YOU'RE EMBARRASSING US. I CALLED HER UP, AND I SAID, JULIA, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT EXCEPT THE CONCLUSION. I'MNOT TAKING MYSELF OFF THE PLAYING FIELD. I WILL WALK INTO THAT OVAL OFFICE, TRY TO HELP WHOEVER THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO DO A BETTER JOB FOR OUR PEOPLE. THAT'S MY JOB. AND I COULDN'T IMAGINE SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE OF WHO'S THERE. I DON'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS HE DOES, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT, WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY, THE BASTION OF LIBERAL SOCIETY. PEOPLE -- WE SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT ULTRA-MAGA. I THINK YOU'RE INSULTING A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND THEN WE'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS, ES SCAPEGOATING, WHICH THE PRESS IS PRETTY GOOD AT TOO, WHERE SOMEHOW THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN TRUMP'S FAMILY VALUES AND ARE SUPPORTING THE PERSONAL PERSON. I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS SAYING THE ECONOMY IS PRETTY GOOD. EVEN THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAS THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE EVER IN HIS LAST YEAR. HE WASN'T WRONG ABOUT CHINA, NATO, THE MISUSE OF THE MILITARY. THAT'S WHY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT. AND MAUREEN DOWD WROTE THIS GREAT PIECE ABOUT HER BROTHER. I'M NOT SURE HE'S PRO-TRUMP, BUT HE'S PRO-REPUBLICAN. PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS. IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, READ GEORGE WILL. READ -- IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, READ TOM FREEDMAN. WE SHOULD GET OUT OF THIS THING WHERE IT'S ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I'M NOT MAD AT PEOPLE WHO ARE ANTI-ABORTION. IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD AND THAT CONCEPTION STARTS AT THE MOMENT OF BIRTH, YOU ARE NOT A BAD PERSON. AND I JUST THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP DENIGRATING EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE TAKE A POINT OF VIEW THAT'S SLIGHTLY