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so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no losers have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actor Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there's no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no regions have been our our helpers on down and dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first half the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch uh thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba feed it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting bonds they work by sonars the low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines were blown up September the 26th last year and um I there's no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way I described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no losers have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars the low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first off the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I sourced it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seem to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist samor Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there's no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way I described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first half the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go costs to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there was no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no lesions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first half the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seem to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist samor Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I sourced it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no lesions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seem to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist samor Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up the not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I sourced it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting bonds they work by sonars the low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch uh thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there's no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no lesions have been our our helpers on down and dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move and they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first off the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on down and dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high will protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist or multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist Seymour Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on down and dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high will protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars the low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist Seymour Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actor Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there's no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way I described the story and the intent of how I sourced it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of saying they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch uh thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on down and dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there's no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and No Visions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high will protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first half the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of saying they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no losers have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why and at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner a famous investigative journalist Seymour Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba feed it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way I described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no lesions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince bite uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars the low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch uh thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba feed it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean well then they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September it gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seem to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba feed it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no lesions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for or the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first off the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seem to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they've moved millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way I described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince by uh Trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers our Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful uh Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream two which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting built by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest there was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across us to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors same or Hirsch thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up to not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall in the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines North stream one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba sheet it's they they move in the Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you're I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me the story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas we Germany was retailing call it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be uh Before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to Norway which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on Downer dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful Seaman and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he said I can blow up your pipeline which I must say didn't make the people doing this secret work happy they were not supposed to be talking about it but nothing happened they did put the um they did put Minds in place very difficult to do it's a big pipeline steel pipeline covered by a concrete cover that's as tall as high as a man six feet high to protect the pipeline from the salinity for all of the the salt and water in the Baltic Sea anyway so they they did the job but once the War Began the the people in the community didn't didn't think he would do it there was no reason anymore to do it in September he gets a briefing and the best I can tell why September the 26th I don't have a good picture but I know for the first the intelligence was saying it's going to be a long War he decided then to do it and he had set it up so he could just say yes and a day later would blow up there's a way of setting they work by sonars a low frequency uh you can blow them up you can do it it's a tough thing to do and so why at that point what he was deciding is this is going to be a long War it's going to cost a lot of money I'm going to go all the way he's now moving a lot of American troops and Equipment into Poland I I don't know if he's going to commit NATO to it I don't know if NATO wants to go but he basically gave Chancellor Schultz took away the option of shows to say I'm going to stop giving him arms Winter's coming I want that pipeline I want to keep my people warm and wealthy so he blew it up so there's been a lot of news reporting a lot of interest on this very simple question who blew up the not stream pipelines remember in September of last year the not stream one and not stream 2 which are two parallely running pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were blown up there were massive explosions which happened 250 feet uh below the sea now the first report that came out which was last month by a famous American journalist which seemed to suggest that this was an inside job it was carried out by the United States using State actors now just this past week there's been some follow-up reporting both by the New York Times And The Washington Post which seemed to suggest that it was not an inside job by America but this was done by a pro-ukrainian nationalist group a bunch of amateurs who carried this out what is the truth of who blew up the not stream pipelines what are the consequences and the implications of that and will we ever get to know the truth I want to First go across to a famous American investigative journalist a multiple time Pulitzer winner our famous investigative journalist same or Hirsch who's first reporting on this last month seemed to suggest that this was done by America at the orders of the president of the United States by state actors Seymour Hirsch uh thank you very much for speaking with us here on this news 18 Network Global exclusive thank you for your time so your report which came out in February which suggested that it was America which blew up the not stream natural gas pipelines was based on a single anonymous source an unnamed Source can you explain to our viewers and people who are watching this interview who are listening to this interview on our digital platforms and on our television platforms as to why you chose to go with a story of such huge implications so much consequence based on just one single anonymous source because I'm not coming from outer space on this story I understood it was going to be important and so last fall the the pipelines are blown up September the 26th last year and um I there is no way common sense you have to deal with common sense well let's see I knew that no Russia would have done it because Putin already had responded there's two major pipelines Nordstrom one which has been alive for since 2011. and Nordstrom 2 which is these are huge they move millions of whatever the measurement is of natural gas there is a different measurement and um it's not Cuba feed it's they they move in they Nordstrom one turned Germany because it supplied cheap natural gas that was very clean more than they needed it anyway I'm just giving you all this because I'm not you I can answer your question but I'd be coming from the blue and I don't want to come from the blue I want people to understand I've done this a long time so the White House Mr hush they have rejected your story outright they've called it a figment of your imagination more fiction than fact is the wording that they used Germany has also taken a very cautious Line on Your Story uh you referred before uh in your first answer to Western media like the New York Times The Washington Post uh had you taken your story to the editors there would they have published such a consequential story bases just one single unnamed anonymous source how would you react to that The Source what I the way described the story and the intent of how I Source it was to be as as vague as possible it would have been very dangerous to have somebody it would be dangerous for anybody telling me this story to be in a meeting because the one thing my government can do well is find people and I think it's very important when I say I've never burned anybody so I'll take the heat on the question of sources what I said was somebody who had had had access to information and that could be a million people and so the story simply is I asked the question last fall in October the pipeline was blown up in September Common Sense said that since Putin himself had ordered the first pipeline to be shut down in Anger at the at the language of of uh the Biden White House the the this is before uh this is before there was any talk of an invasion of Ukraine the language from the beginning was very rough and as it was towards China the second pipeline was brand new it's the first one I said started in 11. the second one was built because there was a need for gas where Germany was retailing called it's calling down down they were selling it Downstream they were selling Russian gas they had so much at such a cheap price they were selling to distributors in Western Europe and Russia looked away it's okay so the second pipeline called Nordstrom too was completed in about late to 2020 or late 2020 when things were already tense when Russia clearly was Putin had said I've had it I'm gonna he's already considered the ukrainians to be a sub-level you know serfs the only reason I can explain for blowing up the Pipelines that uh he had a team study the issue I wrote about this in in the articles I wrote for the substance group for them in four weeks he had a team there very early be before the War Began he wanted an option he asked the CIA give me an option what can I do to convince buy a trump uh Putin not to do not to go to war and one of the options was and this this team went to known Ray which has been an ally of us in Vietnam and no Illusions have been our our helpers on down and dirty stuff all the time and so he went they went to uh um they went to Norway where they set up the norwegian's a wonderful semen and they needed they they wanted to set uh do this the pipeline runs 750 miles all the way down the Baltic Sea directly from Russia to Germany and so the goal was give me an option to blow it up and they did and the war started despite the fact Putin warned Russia about this in February the rest of the two weeks before Russia invaded he

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