John Kennedy Asks AI Leaders Extremely Blunt Questions About Artificial Intelligence

thank you thank you all for being here permit me to share with you three hypotheses that I would like you to assume for the moment to be true um hypothesis number one many members of Congress do not understand artificial intelligence hypothesis number two that absence of understanding may not prevent Congress from plunging in with enthusiasm and trying to regulate this technology in a way that could hurt this technology hypothesis number three that I would like you to assume there is likely a berserk wing of the artificial intelligence community that intentionally or unintentionally could use artificial intelligence to kill all of us and hurt us the entire time that we are dying assume all of those to be true please tell me in plain English two or three reforms regulations if any that you would you would Implement if you were queen or King for a Day Ms Montgomery I think it comes back again to transparency and explainability in AI we absolutely need to know and have companies attest what do you mean by transparency so disclosure of the data that's used to train AI disclosure of the model and how it performs and making sure that there's continuous governance over these models that we are the Leading Edge in governance Foundation technology governance organizational governance rules and clarification that are needed that this which Congress I mean this is your chance folks to tell us how to get this right please use it right I mean I think again the rules should be focused on the use of AI in certain contexts so if you look at for example so if you look at the EU AI act it has certain um uses of AI that it says are just simply too dangerous and will be outlawed in the okay so we ought to first pass the law that says you can use a uh for these uses but not others is that is that what you're saying we need to define the highest risk usage is there anything else um and then of course requiring things like impact assessments and transparency requiring companies to show their work protecting data that's used to train AI in the first place as well Professor markers if you could be specific this is your shot man talking plain English and tell me what if any rules we ought to implement and please don't just use Concepts I'm looking for specificity number one a safety review like we use with the FDA prior to widespread deployment if you're going to introduce something to 100 million people somebody has to have their eyeballs on it there you go okay that's a good one number sure I agree with it but that's a good one what else you didn't ask for three that you would agree with number two a Nimble monitoring agency to follow what's going on not just pre-review but also post as things are out there in the world with authority to call things back which we've discussed today and number three would be funding geared towards things like AI Constitution AI that can reason about what it's doing I would not leave things entirely to current technology which I think is poor at behaving in ethical fashion and behaving in honest fashion and so I would have funding to try to basically focus on AI Safety Research that term has a lot of complications in my field there's both safety let's say short term and long term and I think we need to look at both rather than just funding models to be bigger which is the popular thing to do we need to find models to be more trustworthy because I want to hear from Mr Alton Mr Altman here's your shot thank you Senator uh number one I would form a new agency that licenses any effort above a certain scale of capabilities and can take that license away and ensure compliance with safety standards number two I would create a set of safety standards focused on what you said in your third hypothesis as the dangerous capability evaluations one example that we've used in the past is looking to see if a model can self-replicate and self-exfiltrate into the wild we can give your office a long other list of the things that we think are important there but specific tests that a model has to pass before it can be deployed into the world and then third I would require independent audits so not just from the company or the agency but experts who can say the model is or isn't in compliance with these stated safety thresholds and these percentages of performance on question X or Y can you send me that information we will do that um would you be qualified to uh to to uh if we promulgated those rules to administer those rules I love my current job cool are there people out there that would be qualified we'd be happy to send you recommendations for people out there yes okay you make a lot of money do you I make no I paid enough for health insurance I have no equity in open AI you really yeah that's interesting you need a lawyer I need a what you need a lawyer or an agent I I'm doing this because I love it thank you Mr chairman thanks Senator Kennedy uh senator hirono chairman listening to to all of you

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Published: Wed May 17 2023