Joe Rogan & Dorian Yates on DMT and Ayahuasca

hello freak [ __ ] now speaking of smoking good stuff how did you get how did you find out about DMT and how did you get involved because I read something about you having positive DMT experiences yeah Wow how strange is it reading about you know this massive body builder now getting into psychedelic drugs well I'm speaking openly about yeah the first time I did ayahuasca a zone in Brazil I met my wife was outside she lived in Brazil so we went out to the Amazon and but this was like 10 years ago you know so people weren't really not like now people know what ayahuasca is because so much information out there yourself talking about I'm talking about is ton of stuff on the internet wasn't so much then but I heard about it and I heard about this it's life-changing experience and all I stopped so we were out in Brazil and we've got this guide and ask him for ayahuasca and he's like bring me these two bulbs of brown stuff I don't even know to this day if it was really a lie Alaska but I just got really sick and didn't see any great revelations apart from I got this thing in my head stop poisoning yourself but the night before I've been out drinking and getting drunk and everything so you know that was my experience with that and a friend of mine out here in California actually I knew about DMT I used to live in Amsterdam and like I read the DMT spirit molecule and all that stuff so I knew about it but I had no idea to get the stuff away you can get it from and everything so a friend of mine got it and that was my you know first experience of like leaving the room no to speak and plan it and then since then I had some very positive ayahuasca experiences but with a shaman and doing properly and preparing like five days of you know restricted diet and no sex and all these kind of things you do to prepare and also afterwards so DMT is like blow the [ __ ] doors off your perception and realize that this world we're in is like you know it's nothing just a little illusion right there's so much more outside of it so there was that but with the DMT I think it's like you've got a computer with like so much storage space and you got chief is like a thousand times more than you can retain so you see all this stuff and while you're there you're like haha I know everything oh yes but when you come back how much of it can you hold on to your night so you've seen it and that like makes you look at everything differently but the ayahuasca is over hours so I feel like from the iOS or I actually benefited more it was like going through therapy or something because much slower and I couldn't digest it you know right so but doing it with the Shaymin I did it with a guy called Guillermo a beret law and he's one of the top guys in the world from Peru he comes to Spain a couple of times a year so I did it with him and yeah it's probably I don't know it's probably two or three years since I did DMT because I sat down one day and I said right actually I fasted for two days before so I'd be like just in the zone and I said right I'm going to sit down I've got my DMT here I got my paper Iser here I'm going to [ __ ] smoke as much DMT as I possibly can feel like like you know to like gone and pass out so I had that experience and since then I just I don't feel any need to do I don't think there's anything more I can take from it you know I've had many people tell me the same thing they had such a profound breakthrough experience that they're like okay I get it I had a crazy one in around to say like 2008 or 9 or some point that and I took a long time off I didn't do it again - like five years later maybe yeah it's pretty intense man I mean the the ayahuasca is nice because it comes in nice and subtle and you go through hours of this thing but DMT is like last time any don't you feel very anxious when you'd like like it's almost like you leave in your body and you don't want to you know yeah so you get that bit of anxiety but once you go once it oh yeah yeah it's cool but I've done it more than one time in a day like multiple times in the night no I just you know just blessed it as far as could go and that was it I've done it several times over the course of a few hours and you know you're more comfortable letting go that way yeah sort of a strange way but it never gets less alien well we had a I'm not going to mention his name I don't know his name but we had an experience me and my friend a few months ago that I've never seen before because usually people take DMT they're very calm and sit in a chair and you go off and you might start laughing but you know you don't move much right and this guy he just like freaked out like it wasn't for ten minutes or half an hour my friend was a former MMA fighter used to fight with shamrocks so he now in a wrestling technique so he had to hold this guy on the floor to stop him from hurting himself because it was totally freaking out so I could see the guy was going for some something traumatic from the past so yeah today I messaged him I say hey did you ever find out what the guy would what was that you know because it was he said yeah it was from his birth what his from his birth when he was born he had the cord around his neck oh geez and he went back and he relived this and like so that had been in the back of his mind all his life subconscious you know subconscious has a huge affect on us but we don't know it's there so now he open that box and let it out and that's gone now you know so it can be therapeutic I thought this guy's like wow he's going to be but when it came back as I heard like you're good is like yeah I'm good I'm like do you know what just happened he's like no it's a good thing we filmed at them and go home and watch this I had a friend of freaked out too he freaked out he threw up took his shirt off was running around saying a bunch of crazy [ __ ] and then after he came down you know we calmed him down took like 10 15 minutes he goes okay well obviously I'm a work in progress I'll never forget that but he didn't did he know what it was that was how many Linum some oh no well he had a bad childhood sure everything is like most of our [ __ ] is from that right yeah from the developing years know for sure yeah I mean in especially like real traumatic bonds abuse and being beaten dice stepdad and a bunch of [ __ ] up [ __ ] those are haunting him but you know helps it to come to terms with that especially the ILS cuz it's longer I felt like the first time I did I asked her properly with a shame and I felt like I was a different person next day I was like done twenty years of [ __ ] therapy or something there's a lot of stuff of work time in mind I could even see other people's point of view on things and that I couldn't see before that's huge right other people's point of view yeah especially a guy like you who's so determined and goal-oriented and just cut out all the [ __ ] and get it done yeah it can be a little insensitive to other people's feelings around it was just like whoa all right nothing keep on my way that's a male thing in particular India right and then as like steriliser Luna pizzetta and bodybuilding and intensity and competition and then being the best arguably the best ever and just [ __ ] binding every day I'm unfortunately a couple of weeks ago he's like that you don't see yourself as other people see you so what do you mean he said like I remember when I was a kid he first of all the size you know was [ __ ] huge but it's your persona you might have said to me something very like normal like you know you know whatever you what are you doing with a dog like just something normal I said I'll be like hmm because just your your your presence made me feel like that you know Brian that's got to be wearing me a little tiny kid your dad's a gorilla yeah I remember he did a it did kick boxing right so he got his black belt when I was about 11 or something like that and that was my thing I used to take into kickboxing and pick him up and it's like dad can you just can you wait outside like what do you mean only to come in and like just wait outside like you don't want to come tonight yeah but everyone's like freaking out and looking at you and it was got to be nice though like no I'm [ __ ] coming inside man semi-anonymous in crowds now yeah yeah unless someone's a hardcore bodybuilding fan well there's the thing not necessarily slow because because of the interviews I did on London real and I talked about ayahuasca and DMT and spirituality and reality and all this stuff I get so many people coming up to me like then they're not from the gym I get housewives at young kids like you it's almost like you're the guy from London real you're the guy that you know so I got a whole bunch of other people that appreciate what I'm saying about spirituality about reality and life and they're like [ __ ] man what you said that really helped me and I got so many letters or emails and stuff people you know like they just took something away from what I was saying so I mean that's that's really why I do these interviews it's just trying to help the whole general vibe and the you know put it out there and there's a whole consciousness awakening revolution going on now and I'm just want to push some Domino's you know like create that effect and then you know if you touch one person they touch somebody else and it's like you know the butterfly wings flap here and the other side of the world was a you know ya really are me or something it does seem to be working in that in that regard right is a time and it's the time as so many people that are more aware now then like 20 years ago there's any kind of like Mena's parallels to bodybuilding right that when Arnold first started doing it there was very little information for hardly and you guys got to see what they did and build upon that and more information came out and now because of the internet there's so much information almost too much information people are aware more of what it's all about well with psychedelics I mean 20 30 years ago there's so much ignorance and so little understanding of and also so little understanding especially when it comes to something as Extreme as DMT there's still a giant percentage of our population doesn't even know what it is yeah I mean they should all take it especially the [ __ ] politicians I like to get those politicians then I'll [ __ ] get them in a room and force them to take DMT and then see how they're going to behave afterwards yeah how they're going to look at the world and and treat people after they had that experience I don't I don't think it can be you know so self-centered and unfeeling as most of them are after you had that experience I think that any breakthrough psychedelic experience whether it's psilocybin or LSD or DMT there's well pretty much you know ego dissolving Road to the same place you know well Terence Mckenna used to say that DMT is the center of the MA the way I described DMT is it's like mushrooms times a million plus ans and then it just seems so titanically bizarre that there's like I've tried to describe it to people but I always say look I'm going to tell how to do it yeah I'm gonna give you some [ __ ] word go today because you can't no way you'll have the word frame to put it into words you know you can attempt to do I went to this place it's not a place but right I don't have the word for it the places everywhere is like and there's colors there's numbers the shapes and people thing things and there's like everything is all one [ __ ] thing and what I notice is like my breath was connected to it I don't know how it happened I was in the trip and I went like that and the whole thing moved yes I really let me try this then and then the whole thing moved and then there was music playing and music was part of the thing as well yeah like the thing I don't even know what to call it the thing the place they don't have a word you know we played a bunch of these shaman eager oh yeah and the shaman eager to the last time I did it and the shaman eager Rose like literally made the DMT images dance yeah like they had figured out a way with these sounds and songs to integrate these beats into DMT trips and as you would take these trips these shamans had figured out the right sounds and songs and how to make the trip more intense sort of guided in a strange way well that's what I had with the fishermen with the ayahuasca he comes around and sings these are carros and they're like change his tone and then it goes deeper bass in his chest and it's like it's it becomes part of it you know and I was even moving involuntarily I was my arms going up a body was moving and it's like I'm not doing this I don't even know how it's happening it's like somebody's picking my arms up and I'm moving I was a bit you know started dancing around with this becoming part of this rhythm Wow I had experience once one of the first times ever did DMT where I saw the difference between negative and positive thinking like I started thinking negative and there was all this like black and dark green like these uh threatening shapes and colors and then something recognized what was going on in my brain that these shapes and images were connected to negative thinking and I relaxed in the the shapes kind of like settled down and then I started thinking positive like I heard all these like expressions of love but like you're hearing it but you're not really hearing it it's like the thoughts are getting into your head like someone's trying to say it without using words and then I started thinking positive and from those dark images blossom these like beautiful like geometric flowers and colors and impossibly spectacularly beautiful images and I was like oh and I recognized in my mind there is an actual thing that happens when you think negatively and an actual it's not just some sort of an effect driver that effect the program you're in a program and your thoughts the program's coming toward you and your thoughts are going and it's interacting with the program and that's why conflict like interpersonal conflict between people can be so negative it's not just as simple as you and some person getting into an argument it's those dark images and those negative forces becomes a part of your system I had exactly the same thing so but it was almost like a tunnel I was in this tunnel and it was the same thing I was like yeah all these images around and scary and everything and I was like instinctively I knew to be very relaxed yeah I started laughing like [ __ ] you they're not even real you're not even real and when I said that it went away and I just got this thing that came to my head you've just been in the valley was it called the valley of the shadow of death the sooner the Lord's Prayer I think yeah yeah though we walk for the the valley of the shadow of death should fear no evil because God's by the side right I vaguely remember it from school or something but I got this thing but you were there and you're in the valley of the shadow of death and because you like [ __ ] you'd like ours real it just it just disappeared I'm going to went to somewhere really nice Wow yeah I just wonder how much is real you know it's such a hippie thing to say like how much is real I don't know you know I've been having these thoughts a lot lately like how much of how much of life do you manifest how much of life is real because it's such a [ __ ] thing to think it's such a hippie thing to think and so many people that say that are so annoying yeah but scientists are saying the same thing now quantum physicists are saying I was a finger surnames professor gates if you're familiar with him professor gates and he said that they've broken down reality into the smallest level and it's a computer code yes I've seen that guy not only the code it's a specific computer code if there was a ones and it was invented in the 1940s by somebody yeah I've seen that guy being interviewed we actually talked about it with Neil deGrasse Tyson and he I tried to get him to sort of break it down and explain but what it is is essentially that when you break reality down to the smallest level it mimics a self-correcting computer put code not just not just a computer code but a computer code that's self-correcting which is right there I just had a bunch of noises that I don't even understand you know it's gone beyond my but now you're getting spirituality on science Ryan's coming together because the scientists are saying what spiritual masters or they're already telling us if we live in an illusion and everything is inside not outside they were saying that thousands of years ago but it is real like you have to work hard or you don't get results Yeah right like you're you're hard fast pragmatic reality of being the best body builder in the world it revolves around actual work real results in this in this reality and this program but also to do Columbia probably there was a lot of mental [ __ ] going on there too absolutely the work was being done but also there was probably of Love's all day I mean that's all I thought about literally all [ __ ] day so you know I had to have the physical goods to make it happen I could dream about being basketball playable they probably wouldn't help me because I'm not built to be a basketball player but those thoughts were just going out all the time and I was a kid in Birmingham industrial city in England and I was thinking I'm going to go to America and I'm going to be a bodybuilder and everyone around me was like [ __ ] you talk so yeah that was those thoughts all the time so I think it's like a holographic program we're in but we influenced it we interact with it with our thoughts that's kind of where I'm getting that yes some way [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Length: 18min 33sec (1113 seconds)

Published: Thu Jul 27 2017