Jill & Stuart Briscoe talk about Holiness Pt One

well they won't want me to say this I know this but this couple really is evangelical aristocracy and it is a royal privilege at a first for me to have Stuart and Jill Brisco in the same place at the same time and I truly feel as if I've tried to find you around the world not always with success Jill I've heard you so many times in Canada I was in Cape Anne ray England came to a halt when you came over in 81 Stuart I went right to your church on my way to Briarcrest Bible College in 85 and that was Brookfield Wisconsin Elm Brooke you were away of course so I'm here you are now in it a new season of a life after 30 years I don't look yes I was they've now released you to share you both with the world as ministers at large that's it in the last 11 years for eleven years I was still on staff and enter together yes well we we only traveled together when we're invited to share the ministry otherwise we go our separate ways still do but increasingly we've been asked to share the ministry it's real happy about thank you yes but we've chosen to work a lot in developing world and so we can't just go along for the ride and so we take our always take the opportunities or try team that we're asked to do together first and then we fill in with when I was coming to the end of my time of senior pastor I learned something that really shook me and that is that 90% of the church leadership in the developing world has no formal theological training ninety ninety percent therefore most of them no formal training is available even if it was they couldn't afford it and that could afford it they couldn't get away for three years to do it and yet we've got a rapidly growing church with untrained leadership which is asking for trouble and so we have been devoting a lot of our time trying to do informal training for these people out there invitation and that's kept us busy for the last 11 years and I mean this is still fresh but you're able to spend the kind of time together that for years was not possible you had very active very international independent ministries how do you like it we love it really yes here's a great celebration of this season of life they just put it in my hands folks holiness without the halo finding unexpected joy and freedom in holy living now that's not easy to find mm maybe where you're traveling it is I don't know how we're doing in the West on this one well I have to admit that when when I was young if I'd been asked to rate being happy being healthy and being holy it would have been in that order because I was not terribly impressed with this whole idea of holiness and that was because I completely misunderstood it now I think I understand it a little bit better and I do understand that God said I'm holy so you better get around to being holy and so apparently it's doable that they kind of holiness that I thought he was talking about he's not doable and so it was it's an intriguing study to look at practical holiness and come up with a very simple conclusion that holiness will lead to very genuine happiness and can contribute to health as well I'm sure we think that it's going to make us something we're not I know as a new believer I thought that holiness was best illustrated by Audrey Hepburn in the nuns story you know walking with your hands folded and not speaking much and I just thought was not me but but he's worth it and of course hopefully you discovered like CS Lewis you're surprised by joy and freedom in Christ sure well holiness means separated and if you want to look at that in the colloquial sense to be holy means to be something else now what do you mean by that it means it means set apart by God to be something different than what you are from what is known what is the norm and I think that's interesting I think that's exciting and I think it's what we're called - there's so much I want to ask you in this time grandparents of 13 yep most of them in their 20s three children we have one lives with us we're within reach of quite a few of them I love Jill I know one of the ways you're encouraging them to be good communicators is something you insist on when the kids come with their electronics and we did you tell us when they were in their teenage they'd used to come when we were home with their friends and it was pretty well non useful for them to even appear because they were attached to the satellite you know on every ear and phone and watching the TV and they're sitting in the living room they've come to see us and they're not there so one day I asked my 16 year old who are you talking to this is in the middle of you know we're supposed to be talking we thought he was talking to us earpiece yeah I don't know yes but he was he was out in la-la land somewhere talking to his friend I said to him who you're talking to he said my friends I said why he said I want to know what they're doing I said why he said well I I do I I said you're not here so the next time they all came there was a big box outside the door and it said put it in here die best I had to explain what divestment but and you have their rapt attention you know how hard it was for them to do I can't I mean it just unbelievable to take everything often put it just just for now it's the next thing under the table at dinner that bothers ya the mantra so I want to try to get this happening in our home tell us the story of how you two met you were objectors it was a taping raid they you Center in the north of England and I used to go there occasionally to help them and Jill had come with a group of young people she was working with from Liverpool and I saw Jill across a crowded room and I thought she'll do oh you didn't think that at all yes I was right a tall slim pretty girl what was that tall slim pretty girl was are you yes that was me country I think we met we met in the context of kids we in England we don't say dated but we spent time together with some very interested Street kids watching this phenomena and we got married with in the middle of these people might the pastor in the little church where we got married was shaking because the whole place was full of kids who were feeling rough very rough and when he would say something they don't yeah and even that became the flavor of your early years was it the barn that became the warehouse yes ministry yeah yeah I miss it I miss her farmer's wife I gave her a lift into town a Capon ray which is in the country and a big Youth Center Bible School in and on the way she said I've seen all these strange kids with hair or different colors walking along the lane to your cottage what are they doing I said well they're trying to find out about God she said can I come I said sure so she came to Christ and they had a bomb they were farmers and I needed a youth center and so she talked to her husband and I went round saw him and he came to the Lord and he said would you like our barn I'll put the cows out early but you know it was resented and so that became our first Youth Center and they used to come right across all those fields to the barn and until we filled it as you know and then we it was wonderful marvelous days and then we would be out in the streets in Malcolm at night and they'd come to the Lord and then they'd come to the barn yeah risk radicals great fun and then you push that emphasis with some of those students my friend says that you'd make them get up on those double-decker buses in her and share their testimony well wherever we were in Malcolm or whatnot that's that's what it was all about in those days it was wild was it difficult to transition to America I had spent almost 10 years back and forth to America before we moved over here his major Thomas needed some more speakers for me Jill Jill had some interesting experiences one day shortly after she arrived a lady called and said could I speak to Jill and I said what she's busy right now can you give me a message for her and she said yes I'm inviting her to a shower and so I thought this was too good an opportunity to miss and so I said oh just a minute I think I can get Jill for you and so Jill came over nurses ladies got an invitation for you here Sergio Pig hello and of course I could hear the muffled voice at the other end and Jill went white and she put her hand over the phone she said this some woman wants me to go to a shower Jill When in Rome do as the Romans and that's what they do in America is like Japan where they take you to the baths and the lady realized there was some hesitation and so I heard they said Jill don't be shy they'll be 23 of the women they're not in the shower but it was I had to be up for the children we'd left two widowed moms and a heart and life scratch me anyway you'll see made in England and but having an eleven nine and seven year old and helped and we also am as I say left to widowed mums their grandparents there are only grandparents behind as well so it was very good for me to have to make this incredible an incredible adventure basically and it wasn't incredible adventure

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Length: 12min 18sec (738 seconds)

Published: Thu Jun 28 2012