Jerry Seinfeld Talks Bill Cosby, Whether He Can Separate The Man From The Body Of Art

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( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) NOW, FOLKS, MY FIRST GUEST IS THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR "SEINFELD" AND "COMEDIANS IN CARS GETTING COFFEE." HIS NEW NETFLIX SPECIAL IS "JERRY BEFORE SEINFELD." >> SO I'M LEFT-HANDED. LEFT-HANDED PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THAT THE WORD "LEFT" IS SO OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH NEGATIVE THINGS-- TWO LEFT FEET, LEFT-HANDED COMPLIMENT, WHAT ARE WE HAVING FOR DINNER, LEFTOVERS. YOU GO TO A PARTY, THERE'S NOBODY THERE. WHERE DID EVERYBODY GO? THEY LEFT. >> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW JERRY SEINFELD! ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) ( APPLAUSE ) ♪ ♪ ♪ >> THANK YOU! THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I-- I LIKE THIS SHOW. >> Stephen: YOU LIKE THIS SHOW. >> I LIKE THIS SHOW. I WATCH THIS SHOW A LOT. >> Stephen: YOU DO? >> YEAH, I DO, I REALLY DO. >> Stephen: I'M HONORED. >> THAT'S NICE. ( LAUGHTER ) MY FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW IS THE UNCOMFORTABLE GREETING AT THE STAIR WHEN THE GUEST COMES OUT. >> Stephen: OH, ME, TOO. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> IS IT HARDER WITH MEN OR WITH WOMEN? >> Stephen: IT'S EASIER WITH MEN BECAUSE, GENERALLY, IT'S A HANDSHAKE AND A LITTLE, LIKE, AWKWARD BUMP. BUT WITH-- BUT WITH MY FEMALE GUESTS, I DON'T KNOW WHO IS COMFORTABLE WITH A HUG, WHO WANTS-- IS OKAY WITH A PECK ON THE CHEEK. IF IT'S A EUROPEAN ACTOR OR ACTRESS, YOU KISS ON TWO WEEKS. >> I KNOW, I WATCH THAT-- THAT'S THE HARDEST-- I'M FASCINATED BY YOUR AWKWARDNESS IN THAT MOMENT ( LAUGHTER ). >> Stephen: SO AM I. AND SOMETIMES I SAY BACKSTAGE, "SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?" YOU IDENTIFIED RIGHT THERE. >> WHEN I CAME OUT I SAID, "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" >> Stephen: AND I SAID HOW ABOUT A GENTLE LITTLE HUG. >> WE RECEIVED THE SOPRANO TWO-HIT. REMEMBER THEY WOULD DO THAT ON THE "SOPRANOS." >> Stephen: I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. >> THEY WOULD MEET AND IT WAS TWO HITS ON THE SHOULDER BLADE, AND THAT WAS ALL "SOPRANOS" MEETINGS. REALLY? NOBODY, "SOPRANOS? >> Stephen: THAT WAS WELL STUDIED. THE GUY PAID ATTENTION TO HOW UNCOMFORTABLE I AM. >> THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M INTERESTED IN -- >> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD EVERY JOKE IN THE WORLD. THERE'S NO JOKE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD. >> I LIKE AWKWARDNESS. I LIKE PEOPLE NOT FEELING GOOD. I LIKE THAT. >> Stephen: I DO, TOO. I LIKE PUTTING MYSELF IN AWKWARD SITUATIONS AND KIND OF HUFFING THE DISCOMFORT. >> THAT'S COMEDY. YOU FIND THE COMEDY THERE. >> Stephen: GOING INTO AN ELEVATOR AND SINGING, LIKE JIMMY BUFFET IN A CROWDED ELEVATOR DOESN'T GO OVER WELL. >> WHO WAS IT-- I THINK IT WAS JEFF ALTMAN-- DO YOU KNOW JEFF ALTMAN. >> Stephen: I DO KNOW HIM BUT I DON'T. >> IF YOU GET ON AN ELEVATOR WITH HIM AND IT'S JUST THE TWO OF YOU AND SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, HE WILL SAY, "SO I SAID TO MY DOCTOR, 'WHY AM I VOMITING UP SO MUCH PUSS? '" THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD DO TO YOU IN THE ELEVATOR AND WANT PERSON IN THERE WOULD FREAK OUT. OH, MY GOD. IT IS SO VILE. EVERY WORD IN THERE IS SO VILE. >> Stephen: SURE. WELL, THERE'S SOMETHING-- I LIKE-- I LIKE THE LEANING INTO THE AWKWARDNESS-- THAT'S COMEDY TO ME BECAUSE I HAD A VERY AWKWARD CHILDHOOD. LIKE, YOU SAW THE PHOTO OF ME BEING AN AWKWARD CHILD OUT HERE. >> YEAH. >> Stephen: YOU'RE NOT REVISITING BEFORE YOU WERE FAMOUS JERRY SEINFELD, WHEN YOU WERE A WORK COMEDIAN-- >> I WASN'T WORKING. >> Stephen: YOU WEREN'T WORKING? >> WELL, I WAS PERFORMING, BUT WORKING IS YOU GETTING MONEY. I WAS TRYING-- TRYING TO BE A COMEDIAN. >> Stephen: SO THAT JOKE WE HEARD YOU SAY IN THE-- IN THE LEAD-IN, WHEN I WAS ANNOUNCING YOU, YOU DIDN'T GET PAID FOR THAT JOKE? >> NO. I DID JUST RECENTLY BECAUSE IT'S ON THE NETFLIX SPECIAL. >> Stephen: THIS IS LITERALLY THE MATERIAL YOU WERE WORKING ON WHEN YOU TRIED TO BREAK IN. >> THIS WAS THE MATERIAL I WROTE FROM MY BEDROOM WHEN I GREW UP TO THE FIRST TIME I GOT ON JOHNNY CARSON. EVERYTHING THAT GOT ME THROUGH THE CLUBS, THROUGH ALL THAT HIERARCHY, THROUGH ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, LITTLE STRUGGLE-- WHICH WASN'T A STRUGGLE TO ME BECAUSE I LOVED IT. I WAS IN IT. I JUST WANTED TO BE IN IT. BUT THAT WAS THE JOKE I WROTE ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND I SAID IT TO TWO FRIENDS IN COLLEGE, AND I READ IT TO THEM. I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?" AND THEY SAID, "THAT'S FUNNY." EVERYBODY LAUGHED. AND THEY SAID, "THAT'S FUNNY." AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I THOUGHT, "MAYBE I COULD BE A COMEDIAN." >> Stephen: DID YOU SHARE THAT. HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN HUSBANDING-- >> THAT'S WHERE I START GLD HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN HUSBANDING THAT DREAM? >> "HUSBANDING?" >> Stephen: IT'S A TERM-- >> IT'S LIKE GIVING BIRTH TO A CALF. >> Stephen: HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN NURTURING? HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN NURTURING THAT DREAM OF BEING A COMEDIAN? >> IN MY MIND PERSONALLY. >> Stephen: YES. >> PROBABLY SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS OLD. >> Stephen: REALLY? >> YEAH, WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID-- WHEN I FIRST SAW COMEDIANS ON TV-- I THINK I FIRST MENTIONED THIS IN THE SHOW, I FROZE SOLID. I SAID THAT GUY JUST STANDS THERE BY HIMSELF AND TELLS JOKES? THAT'S THE GREATEST THING I HAVE SEEN. >> Stephen: DID YOUR MOTHER LET YOU STAY UP AND WATCH THE COMED OONS CARSON? >> YES. >> Stephen: WHEN WE WERE KIDS THAT WAS THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD SEE THEM. >> THE SULLIVAN SHOW. >> Stephen: HERE IN THIS BUILDING, THE SULLIVAN SHOW. MY MOM WOULD LET ME STAY UP IF JOHN BIENER OR DAVID BRERN -- >> Stephen: DID YOU LIKE STAND-UP COMIC? >> Stephen: OH, YES. I NEVER DID IT, STAND-UP. >> IT'S A CERTAIN GENE, AN ANIMALISTIC GENE THAT PUSHES YOU TO TAKE THAT RISK, I THINK. >> Stephen: WHEN YOU WERE A KID AND SAID, "I WANT TO DO THIS?" WHO WAS THE COMEDIAN. >> THE COMEDIAN WAS BILL CAUSE BEE. >> Stephen: WONDERFULNESS. >> WHY IS THERE AIR? GREATEST-- WHAT'S WORD-- BODY OF WORK, I THINK, IN COMEDY IS HIS. >> Stephen: YOU CAN STILL LISTEN TO HIS COMEDY? >> OH, YEAH. >> Stephen: YEAH, I GREW UP ON HIS STUFF. I THINK HE SAVED MY LIFE. >> RIGHT. >> Stephen: BECAUSE WHEN I WAS A KID, I HAD A TRAGEDY IN MY LIFE, BUT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS I LISTENED TO BILL COSBY ALBUMS EVERY NIGHT BEFORE I WENT TO BED. I WOULD HIDE THE SPEAKERS UNDER MY PILLOW SO MY MOM COULDN'T HEAR IT. YOU COULD DROP A NEEDLE EYE CAN'T LISTEN TO IT NOW. >> YOU CAN'T. >> Stephen: NO, I CAN'T SEPARATE IT. >> YOU CAN'T? >> Stephen: BECAUSE THERE'S LOVE THERE. THERE'S LOVE-- THERE'S LOVE THERE. >> I KNOW, IT'S TRAGIC. >> Stephen: YEAH. >> BUT COMEDY-- THERE'S A LOT OF TRAGEDY IN COMEDY -- >> Stephen: THERE'S COMEDY BECAUSE OF TRAGEDY. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRAGIC LIVES. >> Stephen: SURE. >> I KNOW. THE JERRY LEWIS THING HE DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY OF HIS SONS IN THE WELL. HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> Stephen: KIND OF HILARIOUS ( LAUGHTER ) NOW, DENIED THEM MONEY, THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS SLIPPING THEM A ROOFY. >> THAT UPSET ME BECAUSE I ADOREDDED JERRY LEWIS. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO NOT WATCH THE BELL BOW. >> Stephen: "SAILOR BEWARE," ONE OF THE FUNNIEST MOVIES. >> I NEVER SAW THAT. >> Stephen: I TAUGHT MYSELF SOME OF THE MOVES FROM "SAILOR BEWARE" WHEN I WAS A KID. >> WE WANT TO SEE YOU DO THEM SOME DAY. >> Stephen: SOME DAY. >> NOT NOW. POLISH IT UP A LITTLE. >> Stephen: WAS THERE SOMEBODY WHO GAVE YOU THE BENEDICTION-- I DON'T MEAN TO DO THIS TO YOU. BUT WAS THERE SOMEBODY-- >> I DON'T MIND. ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ) WELL, YES, THERE WAS A GUY-- I DON'T KNOW IF THE AUDIENCE REMEMBERS JACKIE MASON. >> Stephen: SURE. >> OKAY, SO JACKIE MASON-- WHEN I HAD JUST WROTE THAT "LEFT" JOKE. I STARTED GOING AND SAYING-- COULDN'T EVEN GO TO THE CLUBS THAT HAD ENTERTAINMENT. THERE WERE RESTAURANTS THAT WOULD HAVE, LIKE, AN OPEN-MIC TALENT NIGHT AND I COULD GET ON THERE. AND JACKIE MASON WAS IN THE AUDIENCE. I WAS DOING IT, LIKE, TWO WEEKS-- AND THIS IS ALL TRUE. AND HE CAME OVER TO ME AT THE BAR, AFTER THE SHOW, AND HE SAID, "YOU ARE GOING TO BE SO SUCCESSFUL, IT MAKES ME SICK." ( LAUGHTER ) AND WE-- AND I DIDN'T KNOW REALLY EVEN WHAT HE MEANT, YOU KNOW. BECAUSE I THOUGHT HOW COULD HE EVEN SEE ANYTHING? I DIDN'T EVEN-- I COULD BARELY SPEAK. AND FROM THEN ON, AND I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR MANY YEARS SINCE THEN. YEAH, THAT WAS TWO WEEKS IN. THAT WAS A VERY BIG DAY IN MY LIFE. >> Stephen: THAT IS GREAT. >> YEAH. >> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND YOUR DAD HAD THIS SAYING CALLED, "BREAK A FACE." THAT WAS IN SALES, RIGHT? >> YEAH, THAT WAS IN CASE. >> Stephen: WHAT DOES "BREAK A FACE" MEAN? >> HE WOULD TALK TO A GUY HE KNEW HE WASN'T GOING TO SELL TO THE GUY, THEY HAD FACE LIKE A ROCK, AND HE JUST WANTED TO BREAK THAT FACE, YOU KNOW. JUST SAY SOMETHING TO THE GUY THAT WOULD MAKE HIM LAUGH. IT WAS EVEN BETTER TO HIM THAN GETTING THE SALE. HE REALLY HAD A GREAT COMEDIC GIFT HIMSELF. >> Stephen: DID HE-- DID HE TEACH YOU HOW TO BREAK THE FACE? DID HE TEACH YOU JOKES AS A KID. >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE COULD TEACH IT, BUT HE WAS A GREAT JOKE TELLER. ONE OF THE JOKES HE USED TO TELL ME, A MAN COMES HOME, HIS WIFE IS IN BED, HE GOES INTO THE BATHROOM THERE'S ANOTHER MAN BEHIND THE SHOWER CURTAIN AND HE SAYS TO HIM, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?" AND THE MAN SAYS, "EVERYBODY'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE." ( LAUGHTER ) I LIKE THAT JOKE. >> Stephen: AS A CHILD, DID YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT JOKE WAS ABOUT? >> NO, NO. ( LAUGHTER ). >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK. WHEN WE COME BACK I'M GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT ANNOYS YOU. >> OKAY, THAT'S EASY. >> Stephen: JERRY SEINFELD, EVERYBODY.
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Channel: The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
Views: 2,728,956
Rating: 4.6715636 out of 5
Keywords: The Late Show, Stephen Colbert, Colbert, Late Show, celebrities, late night, talk show, skits, bit, monologue, The Late Late Show, Late Late Show, letterman, david letterman, comedian, impressions, CBS, joke, jokes, funny, funny video, funny videos, humor, celebrity, celeb, hollywood, famous, James Corden, Corden, Comedy
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Length: 10min 8sec (608 seconds)
Published: Sat Sep 30 2017
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I remember this discussion. It's basically the conundrum if the art is any less valuable if the artist is a terrible person. Jerry was on one side, and Stephen was on the other. I don't know that there is a right answer on this, but I appreciate both takes. Stand up is a bit different than music or other forms of artistic expression because it usually comes directly from the comedian's experience so it's harder to separate out.

Is Naked Gun no longer funny because OJ is in it? Is Thriller no longer a great album because of the Michael Jackson allegations? Are the accomplishments of the Cosby Show no longer valid at all because he's a horrible human being? Tough questions...

👍︎︎ 36 👤︎︎ u/ReflexImprov 📅︎︎ Aug 20 2019 🗫︎ replies

I remember this interview. Colbert had to tread carefully during the first block, then during the commercial he spoke to Jerry and said something to change his tune.

👍︎︎ 29 👤︎︎ u/beer_me_twice 📅︎︎ Aug 20 2019 🗫︎ replies

Well Seinfeld also dated a 17 year old when he was 39 sooooo

I think he’s a funny man, not a good one.

👍︎︎ 28 👤︎︎ u/paxweasley 📅︎︎ Aug 20 2019 🗫︎ replies

Seinfeld is a ticking time bomb

👍︎︎ 27 👤︎︎ u/brace1101 📅︎︎ Aug 20 2019 🗫︎ replies

Go watch the Seth Rogen episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee (on Netflix) where they discuss Cosby, and not in the more serious tone I would have expected.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/fcrwx 📅︎︎ Aug 21 2019 🗫︎ replies

In this video, Seinfeld doesn’t say he was more bothered by Jerry Lewis. He also doesn’t trivialize what Cosby did, IMO. He merely questioned why Colbert couldn’t enjoy Cosby’s comedy anymore.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/edhere 📅︎︎ Aug 21 2019 🗫︎ replies

Jerry Seinfeld has been a longtime Cosby rape apologist.

👍︎︎ 16 👤︎︎ u/onedayoneroom 📅︎︎ Aug 20 2019 🗫︎ replies
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