Jerry and Jo-Ann Saddleback: Traditional Concepts of Family and Community

[Music] you one of the things that we learned is that our old people tell us that it doesn't matter what issue you're talking about whatever is on people in First Nations people you are always talking about culture but that's how huge it is then it doesn't matter what we're talking about there is a cultural response to it and this also contains on families how we raise our children what are the components of our families how is it that we get together as men and women how would we create those health and relationships in our communities what is it that we're missing in our communities I mean one of the documents that we're so proud of is under are you familiar behind her it's the United Nations declaration on indigenous peoples and in there it declares that we have a right to an education in our own language in our own culture somebody had that level got it but they understood how big it is one of those important things I'm doing is that look for must be cheese cultural colleges that they they contracted me to write a declaration on pre-language plans pre language one of the things that I had to do in this was to consult with a lot of elders a lot of Alice in that and they told us that we've reached the stage of grandparents who know who don't speak creep we always used to go to our grandparents our great auntie for for anything we wanted to know in that language now we no longer and that so many of us are now learning Cree language a second language and they say when you learn a language is second language you're always going to miss something you're always going to miss something and now as you can what very precious things that we do miss oh it's okay here here the white thoughts into pen don't mine at all and the Z me we're going to talk about families okay how is it that we put together those families how to rapport with one another when does a family start becoming a family what are those rights passages that were missing what should be doing for a little baby when they're when they're first conceived and that's what my husband is going to talk about he is the elder in residence and the Dean of cultural studies that must be choose cultural college he also works very closely with Omaha urban Aboriginal people he sits on some committees for the City of Edmonton and they are doing a really good job of that reconciliation and connecting that have original people in the city and I'm really happy to see so many people here I get really nervous I have no nervous miss at all and I'm talking to people I don't know but when I see a whole bunch of people that I do know I kind of get kind of dismissive good so I'm going to hand this over to Jerry Saddleback now okay [Music] Oh but anyway really grateful to all of you don't you to see so many friends that that and relatives Frank over there and different ones I got friends all where you go and um you know different Leslie Greg very directly in the past oh good it's one year we did another this gets the title of hitting of this session is boring the terms of the area family when you say family within that own we're thinking in our things we thought rooms just as we used to be ski from you know that perspective and it's always and uh I guess you can say pre-contact from the pre-contact arrow then that's called II look at it be that it's uh we're still like there's snow any relatives winter things so we used to we used to go through long for different uh you know versions of the language street winter lenses are in a circular encampment for four different locations within the encampment you have four TVs you know going simultaneously via the night telling your story with several items of course you know I've been taking over each other within like the intro version you decide on runs outside of that camp on west side would certainly over in on the motor side of the camp and this you saw winter months and you and it's a another system I guess you can see a portal traditional for how you instill in your memory bank a permanent place where the information to you know to eventually be passed on to future generation kind of a thing so we hung our ways of doing that up the introversion being uncle [Music] [Music] several years old eventually you get to the final evening it's during this our whole entire process like that step down [Music] people used to talk about some of these things that we you know whatever they feel that they learn from each other part of that camp that they're walking from with VR sometimes what I do is I try to rotate sometimes I feel like a little worm of the intro intrusive sound such if they followed the high school story and where you have a general version the sky aquatic means you're adding some more into that picture and then you have the blocking which is not presented with you several days at a time four days four nights up with the intial version they say that's not watching what they called it it's not what's wrong it's a 24 hour cycle they like and of course number 77 a lot of their different here generally same thing that one is not double the timer anywhere from 8 to 16 days I'm I not know may only say 14th they look for and then the other one is I not do like an additional for another kinda but I do want not Nia what we say would be 4 times 4 would be to be anywhere from 4 to 16 days general burning and then here's Pacific work for a birdie week which would be 1 million approximately maybe 1 7 28 days this is some and stop watching done by did not stop the Beast about the screen stand up where do our filters my box the other alter takes over from there from whatever time and then the final TVs for a generation with yourself you know after you've learned through a lifetime the recited version opted recited decided version w they move you over to the ceremonial versions every now and then Donna you'll have to excuse my cope as long as it has a kind of a ring to it but anyway you have that northern PP and that one is the ceremony where the devil takes approximately four months they're gonna cut us off on Simone right straight through remember these are winter winter months absolute certainty straight through kind of the things well you can imagine you know live beside you that can for them for one thing you know and said I thought it was cheap the fun one big kind of a thing so you spell three-part than zero and then of course you have a different with this one here whenever elders are called upon or you know our elders with your when we fall upon them we try to have something kind of like a specific topic inhabitant than what you did here which is more than said without this family alone s with the probable family so in our language we say family we say done just before I go into that guy I wanted to tell you love them just a little short condensed version of our pre-contact history of creation story we believe in none but what they call the father of the universe and we call he deliberately names himself a sixth a month or so a month or is odd compassionate I'm not trying to get a can and then you have the mother of the universe say month old squirrel compassionate woman so we have those within that culture of pre-contact Iran the older it was the older elders that really passed the story on to us odd really because I already did those older generation that were one hundred and twelve hundred and twenty three hundred and twenty one to one hundred and sixteen year old ladies and other ones like that that passed this dispersion on already called these other elders younger elders and those younger elders were 80 and 90 years old and these guys were like way over a hundred indeed they had kinda liked it virtually zilch experience as far as out you know I guess you could say that the colonized lifestyle its kind of its kind of like pre-contact be right that's where they came from that originated in there why I say that as many of them were deliberately going away from my staying away from colonization physically going around physically staying as far as it but why you know we do you have all we don't email all of the reasons why I'm pretty sure of the history of that colonization figure so but anyway one of the main reason why this what's doing maintain the purity of that is you can save those purest ways of doing things that story itself which we call it a long but long story that kind of thing is all of these different thing to a maintenance of that pendant to make a very good future generations in and another chorus on there is also on these other people that during that time that we're within the midst of colonization and you know I must read the same time and but they were traditional people but they went underground with this information what are the reasons one of the other reasons why of course you saw well for several generations on there's different things like our ceremonies were forcefully stopped and everything like that when you see ah the Sun you know the Sun Dance itself sometimes we'll see up sticks around there and every now and then these elders will put down their to stick and take that Island and that's done in the memory of the ones that passed on that didn't want to use those lounge rooms because they are scared of what they call redcoats to come and tear up there tonight their ceremony here so those are different kinds of things that were happening so what was taking place with some there is that physical you know people that were physically away from them that type of comment and the ones that went underground with it and for several generations uh when the ceremonies were stopped by the time some of these are our relatives trying to pass this information on them back to their I guess you could say now colonized relatives the ones that they map out some solid zinc they say that means they came up in today into a midst of colonization but in fact they tried to tell their downfall minds relatives that we we have our own long story in our only traditional ceremony things like that doubt they said that the other one said that voila I found a different way I've been converted to another no way of the lead from the other side of the world it's the same God so you know basically that's what the and the kind of answer to that so from nearly this more or less stuff company we are the code we are this means this within there nuclear family who ever cared to learn their kids to eventually negotiate indeed maintained had been tilted that but and that's reason why when I went on that five-year journey without Confederacy of 26 I asked me to go in live I will get that information of the purity about and elders I believe from 1876 as far as on what they really believed in on what the treatise was about it was during that time when I discovered that we only had a handful of elders then you done the long story we did the entire area that's why that we say they were a number made the numbers remain small because of that the baby to think oh so those are some of the kinds of things that we've have to be mindful of in especially we've done some of you younger generation that are and whatnot to maintain awareness you know what that you need to address in that matter so it's with that we as we say mother of the universe father at the university so ladies and gentlemen we actually have a mother of the universe according to that story and not wanting to other people to witness a month or compassionate time not one more man said he's it done he went like this he said down who could be more compassionate than the giver you have everlasting cycle of light and said he said we could just say God to him said but that he deliberately called himself compassionate kind bud so that's why we we addressed in our claim to be and then we have not only that but we have a child of the universe so that's the store that's how far back we own people they did our own people they take it that far as far as that history the pre-contact history concerned with and in our language we have what they call the holy language or the sacred crease you want to call it high pre that kind of thing we have that kind of a crease in language they call it God but stick to it with language persecutory like what is that so within that particular language we have a word born out of that from that family because he wanted the kidster he wanted to show the rest of his universe that feels about them create the holiness and sacredness that's concept of the word when we say that my son-in-law studies the etymology of our clothes were in spirit we were in trying to tie in some of them the key words that come from his culture associating that the similarities like one similar one example of that similarities are the word they have for pyramid they were powered on it's the same word that we have for the description a descriptive word for the word pyramid so those cards some of the kinds of things that he tries to connect this word you know that that their culture and our culture the similarities of them so he was the one that said that expects I hate still no word that he'd come across that starts out with a singular and enter the plural we have figure slower on some of the linguists hotel probably know what I'm talking about but it's the word we have her family I am so that family there in that him in that concept that's where it starts from it then you table as far as that teaching of that the home is within that circle encampment and we have what they would turn on a story that an excerpt if you want to call it you do our that's how we say except in Crete from that it's taken one little chunk of it from that it's just recent story down what it is it's on this fun nearly just started talking about the reason of the children where the creator after he seen that there was this uh when we would turns up in our culture as man stepping over it pasta a bus a pasta with the pasta stand and he's he passed our desire he stepped over the parameters of the dictates of his natural law this man think that when he stepped over that then he after that he said he's going to prescribe to him a very specific way of how he's going to let children to him the first is first couple finally in the one with the son we have our own story with indigenous let's figure out you know the other day we came up with God my wife and I came up with the dictionary in a word other than the indigenous it's the people that were you know like the trouble and they're near that part of them and that's what it means instead weird stuff it's a word that of that nature but in our language we will say we defeats we follow me no I mean I'm a defense that humbly stuff Purdy's itself it comes from the earth this very here this one so we have that story of that history even though the location are when people talk about locations about sacred landmarks we have that location so that this so but God little further today we had this story about again you know God how when he stepped over the creator's natural law the Creator now decided that that he's going to lend them the children in our language a he Holly had his choked his first children that they're going to happen so with that they uh they called that child in are able to lose a child it should be called child in our language Oh how to spend a word over here are we old sewing which means that which was loan to you if that was loan to you in the most holy sacred way but we go so it that's what that means and over here is this part of the word sequences which means little sky being a child means a signal system so those are connected in that way so they they are back in them day he literally raised his children like little sky beans which they were in double in the belief system that we have on the god came here so how they were placed here so it's like that that that they they take it from that that so he very specifically prescribed to that first couple how they were supposed to raise their children very and the poster really and that one those types of fun that one there takes out just drink talking about just the growing years of the child all they're talking about is one thing and that is the creator is you know prescribing to them right from the time of conception people and stomachs collars on them there are several words that they use for that right there up the first time earliest conception all the way to the time when the child reaches that age of maturity that groaned in their mature years right there forgot for a woman that would be approximately twenty years old the age of maturity and I don't mean to step on your males pose but that for a male it's about 30 years old mines according to bully catch on right away match I guess it's that twenty or twenty years old what that interest that I was old ladies that you know we talked about one girl I recorded at 112 and really she was one there were 11 years old she was 123 old people you know we were lucky to see them to witness them and they running around inside and outside towns at that age knowing that doing stuff not not slow oh you know like slow that I passed my mom honored exercise room and daily moderate exercise movement no commentary table daily like that and that didn't die upon didn't die about sickness either they announced their death so those are these these groups of others that about some of them coming from that dynamic that I think you said that if you see could see that so instead when we've been done once or died in the wilderness and thing is as long as the equipment so it's these all people those some of that fear stories that in godly when they're talking about some of those thinking in that line that's why we refer back to them the reason for that a long time it's right one of the reasons why this is because we are we try to get the extra directly from them from that individual and that's why we kind of give you an idea on some of those individual and the name of that individual that kind of thing is sound anywhere from him and couldn't be any word from mother an introversion to our silent version try to I guess basically translate that add it into its literal form that's what I'm why are we at times named them have them they don't get to get a chance to give them it's in our language it's really it so it's a form of perspective you want to call it down to only name them very like a few times kind of thing it's not at that instill which I will you know give me that villages but I think so we don't video I'm like named I've ever done hit on every now and then so we try to take that type of belief system so it's like that down when we talk about that those earlier stages in that we're saying with them that hum when he talked to them in our language we say uh that that who is spice stage as we college from that very earliest that's another way of calling it there's different stages of life with it the moon that they talk about these elders are and each one of those Thetas are the moon stages of that the child has a child is growing inside the womb and all of those who stages have the word I had that heart ie in it which starts out with the word I see no I see no means a human being so right at that first earliest conception we already have I dare say that that we had that very earliest stage so it's not like you know if I was a doctor maybe not up here in university or someplace and I had a camera on them and I started at three months old I started poking at them and end up and they make all these funny faces and stuff like that night yeah three months oh yeah he's human now that kind of thing it's not like that it's just right at that stage at the earliest stage we are where we begin that because we have what they were Germans are very super sensitivity words there's words that we have within our language but culture itself like they say on the prophecy that the old people say is that in the future time to come people from this island are going to and the people that come from the other side of the island on the other side of the world they would have come to an understanding on some of these things of their culture and some of those terms that was the prophecy that they had and now I think sometimes I think we're getting kind of little closer to that stage like this word for example there's kind of the way we understand that word is this word [Music] it's a super sensitivity stage front right from the time of the earliest conception all the way to eight seven seven years old a very simple pick up any kind of a vibe not only from the mother but trim the dad and I think so the old lady I she was a hundred and twenty feet only reported at hundred and twelve we've done again you don't kind of like that it's each old people they're joking wouldn't anybody else a in a while I feel so young you know their 11-year job that kind of thing but right there she's talking about certain things like this word here and she tells it I cannot express to you enough young people a lot of that super sensitive stage that they're in right now he said that he cannot express that enough how insensitive that stages where they pick up vibes and of any kind of a vibe another old man I will try to describe it a Shoshone elder they have a have the word for that the same similar kind of a word for that within his name was Tom we saw David and they had a words that were similar to that and my dad he also had a word that my late father had as far as on to surpass even the intellectual level of comprehension of an adult surpasses that we have a word for that he highways come on that's the word that they use a highway stuff is likely surpass that level of intellectual capacity at that stage they never saying these old people some of you might have heard about so many nice thing you know like that you know they you think a lot suddenly in history she goes secular that's that over here he said we'll be Healy sticking ot their intellectual level very partial very redundant but the belief there is that we as parents here whether we aware of it or not was what she was saying be happy throw in the mouth they happy toe in the Malaya it will give me that have a word written in hadith the Wyndham Elias who means of capacity whatever you think that they should have otherwise important what are the other thing one of the things they're done with an example of that they talked about instead when the creator was talking to the first couple they'd be soft ow Adam and Smith among nearly call it that means up their memory bank was system awesome everything in them to be able to maintain everything so when he talked to them and first write how he wants his children to be raised you know how long it took him cording to that measurement in time it took them from the time in a month of me from the time the Sun come up till the time was that the Sun was I was fastest selling point and we see is support spend a week that means in its word-for-word context they were able to remember all that that's how that's there every night would that first couple so that's what they're talking about these old people and they begin you know to try to associate some of those firms and how we how they try to tell us about the that erosion about the are people in unreliable they were we you know erode as parents whatever we're either or not things like that of that nature of that capacity of what they could have been would have been shaded in Portland kind of thing the pureness and Diet different things with the inter intertwining nature of our ourself of our whole being we have within our our language symbolic our characters which had been taken away from us in the eighteen hundreds early 1800 we have our own symbols as far as our own traditional culture which with job I guess you could say talks about all of the things that were the main ingredients that were made up as human beings in that in and it's a sacred writing some of you might be aware of it it's called syllabics it's got four columns by nine rows the four columns are near we are what the four bodies people that's what we call and the nine rows representing the nine months of development the wholeness and how we eventually are born into this you know we start with Mother Earth the grounded mother so those are believe sir that we haven't done all of those things in which were made up they're not beings all separate beings within themselves they're there if you notice that charters where is symmetrical symmetrically that symmetry means they're not connected because of that this physically symmetrical is an indication of how connected they are with the whole universe out there very rigidly one of those out is by the way a lot in the end up like those the people that had taken this dissuading away from us and trained with what happened was they took the front row and put it back there and that that's symmetrical nature what our own people thought about that was not in perfect order of symmetry when we say symmetrical our latitude in that order [Applause] [Music] [Applause] can you read it disco disco type of thing it's likely it's medical terminology sometimes you'll see the medical books constipate that what it is is with us it's enough capacity to that's part of the oral tradition where we able to learn they call it them both away who is the etymology of that though I think and then the etymology of those language are you know how we I guess you can say die except into its derivatives and that kind of thing so but these are these symbols here that we have our very own that they're in all the services they are what we're data [Music] providing a better wave it's explaining it doesn't how many of you have taken a periodical a study of the periodical chart of elements okay you studied it in an in a you know I guess you could say very simplification simplified way the only difference between our elements and those elements that you've studied is different ours are alive are very much alive and each one of these elements are not only that but that we didn't hear we have other governments now when there's 100 and some odd elements within you know that today's we think either that's a science knows it modern science know it but with us it's there again it's different we have our own story our Allah the universe incidentally they are I heard they found just two other recent elements in a little bridge so but anyway that's what that and then when you see these are 36 but when you add another one on today's times 13 that but not only that you start doubling the characters don't adhere and then they start adding them into varying combinations of those double dominant since you strapped up in them so that's part of that the whole people story but each one of these and these according travel people it's like that a little baby with their own soul over here they say it's under the sole here right there and that soul belongs to us that's that's you according to other people that's awesome and miss your body is made up of all of these supernatural beings all symmetrically connected to each other in the universe they're like that period and that's it there's the symmetry and that's that word that explains this if the disco disco diabetic you have that order of symmetry in that humans do so those are so many concepts that we know as far as our people are traditional people in the pre-contact era of our belief system how we knew sacred writings and today some of them they call my really horribly fix or no different some symbols like that so but anyway it's through this person this tie being now they they start talking about that 22 own people they're stages of development within that sky being that need to be nurtured back in them days they were able to you know within data decided version that they knew for several generations they knew that and then that's reason why we had ceremonies because those those certain rituals and ceremonies where our institutions of knowledge that you want those were our pleasure center today in normal today within an academic institution that you see around you you had three basically different types of learning that the who you what you have your economy different learning your psychomotor and your effective learning those three types of learning that they talk about we're not with us we have a fourth quadrant of learning there's such a spiritual learning that's the part we have that Southwood scape them out on the Apollo that's a spiritual learning of course that we have and but all of those are intertwined interconnected with each other they're not they're inseparable but these are they're all like candy they're connected to each other in that way you have a very orderly connection to each other and that's why that developmental process has to be one of the balance it couldn't be like cognitive over here maybe within our society maybe we'd have cognitive ninety percent maybe over here no cognitive and maybe psychomotor over here maybe eight percent maybe you know trying to be nice about it but guess what's left over here emotional learning 2% see that's what we mean we don't have that we have a very orderly balanced way of looking at that picture of all of these quadrants that I've said feed into it with a very sound setting of this effect on it call it down the parameters of the dictates of the creator's natural ground that's how we raise the children from that is that matter so these are certain Hannah divert an intro teaching [Music] we have we both drink a diet of course you do but even at badges so but anyway we are when we go into that story of that dead balance such take forward within that of how you're treating each other the word say month-old compassionate kind on that word so so fulfill that child with kindness and compassion you know as the child is growing even though the power and energy of that word out people say that if you focus maybe on a tendency to kind of like focus that more sway towards that a little more in your upbringing style how people say it's so powerful emotional well-being and raising a child the wrist takes care of itself that's the same that they have these other quadrants PT here themselves that's not powerful then that system to me you know when you talk if you talk to a educator about the curriculum specialist or something it boggled my life forever and it's kind of the gaff it's another that's an incredible patch but it's not not impossible I think there is a few people who are a couple people from UCLA that tried it but they still haven't got any we'll try to at least try to figure it out the thing yeah they're back from back in the 80s they are still not there they still happen [Music] but with us it's in our language it's built into our interconnected within our language and we have that that's part of that the world tradition that we have in fact with this this this thing here these are separate sounds guttural sound and the guttural sound stay provider are like the names of the beings within the supernatural beings that are encompassed throughout the universe and how they're connected with it minutes ago I know that it was after the boat we're near so that that's part of our you know I guess you could say kind of like skeletal framework kind of understanding of that you know we couldn't give you a little you know synopsis of what picture cut about from a holistic viewpoint look like so that's the way people and but it's these things you when you start bringing the box until one time I had caught a high school class you know and we have a white board and high school classes that one kid back there James he put up hate sweating a lot dealing I kind of like that can be right down 1 million for me [Laughter] but he done really he told me read it there are no you should but you know it's like this extent kind of like a big kind of a same kind of mathematical system that they have like ten fingers tens and we actually brought back from a no picture company it's always me that you know that that tends and how we figure out our generation system and the universe from that only you know connect ourselves with that I guess you could say the measurements of the cyclic order of the universe from the history of creation story would allow our that this with that story to connected along with that so that when we say children and within their different stages one of the things there that they stress with a male-female they have a court courtship [Applause] remember they're talking about this mother and father of the universe and child on the universe that the things of that well they would literally stay with the each other until one physically drops that's how long they would have to say to each other as part of that law talk about and you know what they're allowed to you know if they want to remarry but they were allowed to the court at least a year some go for two years and of course some go for four years of you know in this you could say more a mourning period weekend healed itself and then after that the group anyway when they say about that time when we talk about the tortured see they here's a four-speed over here that first out there be a thief it was sold I guess you could say on it was it's so detailed that long story that they were specialists that specialized in the word for it we side with that in some of the lobbies and one of these lobbies you had one that's recited from conception to 870 you know they're talking about is one thing how does a mother and father raise that child probably time but using these four quadrants we're talking about they do that they're talking about that are four stages the last window people they say talked about the entire four stages that lived on lived in them did one day in on that area we call it at that such of sunshine our cheese area that was the last person that went through and talked about the entire four stages usually it was one elder conception to seven years old you know talking about father and mother raised their child from here Thaksin approximately from eight years old to puberty puberty a long time ago of course was uh according to those these old ladies we had a grandma there from my mother's side was 116 years old I got that wooden she was on the wheelchair but she could share herself around real fast and washing dishes and everything but her cousin Nancy Smith very formal names these are full what that created man she smashed she was also 116 but that one ran around inside notes right doubts pretty well he wouldn't stop really Beverly sleep it up and everything anyways it was those those old ladies there that no told us about some money you know how you raise these children this one was fun from seven to Concepcion I mean on conception to 7 and from 82 approximately 17 years old for a female back in them days but in their days according to these old ladies were platinum your to be the age was 17 yeah and this old man that shook my hand my grandpa another 21 year old grandpa shook my hand it we could see it on the light that it on you can kind of see it go whiten it and it slowly goes red then shook my hand like that in here hey he looked like there there he kind of hit the red back like that no see he laughed at me you know what he was laughing at I boo-booed before I reached the age of 30 years old that's what he was talking about so these old people they say that age of maturity for it that's why they say for a male 30 years old age of maturity for female 20 back in them date his vocal cords never changed till he was 17 and today not Bishop will they want to know to know who these guys are little boys found their vocal cords with 12 years old you know the vocal cords are chained what's going on here you know stomach muscle once you receive a gay grandson you come yeah that kind of thing so he looked at me like that so those are things that they talk about it in the teachings of help the normal flow over here you have that very dumb the third elder he he's talking from anywhere with the female 17 and 18 years old around there they call it early adolescence for female or male early adolescent to get this guy's it's approximately 17 years old children about 25 around there your early adolescence right so in then sold and then anyway on latter latter adolescence right here you start talking about this one here for female is 919 and 29 around them male it's anywhere from 20 to 30 years old 26 to 30 that's his latter adolescent lead soul and when we say courtship or the wording year is a dive amenities that they did we're talking both recontact here here and then of course in the manor duck which they were raised its I guess you could say today it might be a little too overwhelming to try and conceptualize it but let me try to explain to it just a little bit maybe you might be able to grasp the concept and the concept is uh today we look at that a child would look at a big-screen TV or something like that be sitting there looking at it or a big-screen movie and that movies do it on the action and everything for them on color and everything so what's happening part of their brain is actively at work the other part of the brain remains stagnant that's one of the ways that might want to explain its own but this other way yeah I know we're talking or somebody telling a story that a part of the brain becomes activated why did what it's starting to they have to formulate their own pictures or anything all that so what's happening is that they're internalizing that story you're flowing through them and never we're talking about this like psychological term that that's $64 where you're using up their affective learning that one is emotional learning positive emotional learning so that part of the learning process when they're utilizing that part of their brain is you know they and their whole brain also and it's flowing through their emotional positive emotion becomes an emotional experience at same time as it's now their story their story they're formulating the pictures from their grandpa or grandma not possible it's becoming their story and it's implanted in their picture in it and it's implanted and their chances are they wouldn't remember it because their story implanted it the color and everything forget becomes there and so that type of a learning process so that's in one way we might be we might try to explain the concept for you to grasp spectacle to try to grasp from them that angle it's part of that whole process of that entire how wide it be widened world why were they able to do it with these these 30 year old men get the 30 and they able to understand all these different concept well from 20 six years old because of everything here that was told during in that long story as we were calling it this long story it's there again huh they didn't have on Facebook Twitter and texting all that didn't have that patina they're out there so what was happening here bhutanese he please and sometimes under table it was open to go to any pp so they would go to any one of these TVs are gonna try to formulate hold Leon I think I kind of know that section of how it goes from an intro to a general to a specific word recited into a ceremonial I think I connected that part you will be beginning to do that over several years maybe they begin commenting the only thing your themselves in them so and so what's happening it it's flowing through them in such a way this story that they're understanding there there dear your understanding about certain elements that understanding of certain things that we have physically mentally emotionally spiritually were stabilized so they had a very stable way of looking at life everything first cuz it's within them that they had a very stable understanding on a certain reason life so it's with that they had they had to obey I mean they were then able to start hoarding for male approximately 26 27 28 29 the day they turned thirty people you know they but there was no physical contact in this court for a female if you're looking at you know for that female for that you're looking at 17 18 19 and 20 no physical contact you know 21 then that's when there's a bonding relationship but each one of those year is there's a name for each one of those years of court the first year is called have win story at door which means trying to get to know each other you can talk about everything under the Sun but they're trying to fit know each other know physical and then second year nice the weight the weight trying to focus on the legal purely found each other the recording they realize it I hope it's purely on that concept it's the tool so that's a second here and then you think I bring it at any time but based on this history of creation story that they had that we walked through the old lady used to say this story here is long story and sexualizing it is one thing or try tempting to conceptualize it is one thing being walk through and experiencing that story emotional spiritual everything you know being total that's a different story is the same to tell us that so that's how come you can tell them I'm of a stable rhythm of what they would be these people meant when they were saying certain things so it's with that kind of knowledge that they then they have this what they like I stated the third year you would have the first one it's got wins the way to win miss Doane doing almost matching there's no meanness to wait the witness the second one focusing on the other and then the third one is miss the way to do it the first one was tough windy snowy the win third one is nice the way the way this is the way the win means are moving each other knowing each living that here and he's still visiting the parents where the where she's doing the baby that type of thing he's not saying nothing course up maybe the fourth here no more than a hug and a kiss on the cheek another discretions fourth here what you're doing is the fourth year you're going into our relationship where do you have against you preparatory they call it suck escape the world so the third year is knowing each other throughout that year and what that is is uh we now have a pretty good idea who we are and it takes that whole year to decide you got one hole here let every gonna be together so that and then that fourth here they call it suck escape doing double a Dido is she that closest ships and she told a lot about it but most couples today this day they go to a certain level and didn't say oh I love you to each other and it kind of rests on a platform what they're feeling you early and she said this one here he sat down because he went through those courting stages and everything properly he hit a certain point and and she said psychics gave the win this goes beyond that and it's a that's I'm scared to it you can now three words that I've tried to what interchangeably use and they mean all three things growing loving bond but they've grown love loving growing barn sheathing the intercom it interchanges interconnects and each other of what it means and so they hit that point and it just keeps growing that's what she's talking about so that's part of that and that's called that preparatory here from the courtier that's how come please stay with each other all the way through he said but there again issue essential a signatory attempting to is what they can walk in it is another or beneath a place right from the time foggy early ages conception is when they start according to old people knowing the sound the sacred sound system that we were talking about in these four bodies this was imminent or about intro or the sound system the second large is immense general Warren the third modules specific the sound form in the modern spiritual that's the silence of that child that's when the wound has grown our people have faced us applaud us Scofield immatures inside is so those are parts of that you know it's three weeks and still it's over here I guess they talk about very here in any kind of my talk talks about it over here but over here more so where it's kind of like I guess you could say some other a part of a little chunk of that you know taking a long time of course to to conceptualize that little portion today we would call a prenatal education they're being taken that last stage of reform our prenatal knowledge and prenatal education they're being walk through them of course they have been walk through this story magnitude of this other story and they all have that in within them already within their grasp everything within there comprehension level grasp of all the things that the concepts that are being before them as far as that you know that trying to understand I guess you could say it in that little knowledge of that they're getting so those are kinds of things that they talk about so that's the kind of stuff the society these guys were from that we're running away physically know that he didn't want to be caught by these rentals you know that they're kind of planning to keep this you know that kind of thing and and some went under my dad this client he went underground with it like that they even their own cousin see he kind of grandpa grandpa grandpa becoming listed we were already different that initially they kept it within their nuclear weapon to learn some other brothers of course in like mine so that's part of that so that's one of the reasons why are with people they take that's why it remains small the number today sometimes people do take certain times and congregations it's allowable to you don t kind of like an intro version of something just so enough to be able to kind of then be able to say okay now I understand what was this why we're making such sweeping statements in a time of 1876 in like our mother earth is not for sale no like statements are such sweeping statements why you know they're that kind of well the belief system of course would lessen these remember that thing there's for rich body and everything this element over here part of placed in certain part of the universe and another element over here placed in another Department complete my cousin my and I maintain the image of the creator completely like that that's that belief system you constantly and then of course that belief system of course there then we because this carried according to them this move this one here moves our body body and then one day this leaves us when it leaves us of course the body goes back to here that's my mother earth and all of them birthday teach that I we didn't hurt we talked about the Imam going back to that the that's part of the belief system that so that kind of like makes you can see I enjoy touch of the intro version of how we believe life of the completeness you can see at the four quadrant of light how we understand everything to be respectful alive and well apparently Universal in our culture of elam people say God is everywhere meaning literally silly that kind of thing so the big time have a very deceptive way pattern of everything which affected the nature of the balance of everything the absolute oneness with the belief like for example treaties before before country flora contacted the treaties that they had with these peoples of the Americas by the way the Sun more than South American continent people in speech call in one lemon that southern part of this godly they call it a solid them they call it and that part where in China you know how it kind of narrows out like that Central America that part there ya know people they call it dying if that would be the place where the island narrows and says he called we're not finished we have we have names for watermelon cantaloupe Apple going into bananas polities tomatoes potatoes all these different colors you're given potatoes live guaranteed here deep love you a scientists once said up there is people together potato to contrive and incontinently from here popcorn one time about decide upon hominy underdone mild stretch healthy scientists of petrified corn he said there was over 200 different types of four including popcorn sorry young people it's not my life tell them when you're watching that movie over there that theater eating your popcorn you can thank you muscleman book clubs there don't step sugar so it's all of these different things threw up but anyway it goes back to that the concept of the belief system Rubin launched for it more this next statement that I'm going to make and that is a plain strident and when it was the planes cream this was our living room in South America dimes worth living harmoniously with people and the treaty the treaties we have and all of that in the tribal Mistral North and South America was based on one single principle and that was he the creator made everything perfect but sleeper that's it that mistake and they proved it for thousands of years by becoming equal specialists within their own territorial zones and maintaining the ecosystems and howling that's why we see the plains cree people who put more those for it than the ones that a nomadic tribes that were we have our names for different keywords for different tribes on how do idea from Kansas but there again the exact apologist II had pronounced those parties it's supposed to be a part of me we know what that's what they're called we call them over here properly people that means I people with the sacred in Jesus day that's only a sacred that's what people thought that maybe don't pretty worried sedessa Bob our need if you're an anthropologist Connie was to be powered he powered ears of the fasting fasting people a secret fasting people the ponies Polynesia and different ones that we know in the area even overall winner further into Central America there's a tribe there I can't be mispronounced and where they call them said so even us they even though they call themselves that similar dialects the in technology would be like the old English Englander accent from these are the bygone era and the accent of here in North America the English accent that be the analogy for us our talk to - those are they called Central America they call them up we got below the comments of us - we can't pick up Oh but again the mispronunciation Vandiver sounds nein these different tribes much swati from Iowa they have a pre pre where giant Chicago the word in Chicago Chicago Chicago that's not as fun the dignity that see the deity of this we haven't spoke deity so there's like that's what you say don't they all of these people think they have a very specific orderly place within that that harmonious relationship of the earth appeared in the mob salute want us together nature that's all part of them and the tried thing they have these are the other you know and some of them that you know kinda like these tribes here are so low solar / legibly with them - I talked with soullow elders in I talking cream they understand me we talk back to me and so the why understand down kind of general flow of that discussion we'd understand each other France Canada there's Creed's right across Canada you know a few different dialects but we all understand each other up - into our north central we see we have a little clearer understand each other different and the same you know way we look like in English but you know swing little I guess Acala little why these dialects are intellectual fanciful basic leader you don't fit the same thing O'Doul that in one soul the kind of that's why we say we bulge freedom you know that existence of those that had those types of principles of how people used to live with them being one linear people and how they maintain that Oh anyway so you have all these different things that the stages all of these like new movement quarter moon half moon full moon stages all of these different stages within the naming of that child of preparatory stages of that child how you don't prepare clothes until they're born you didn't have receiving like it's called easier soft different types of cushioning mas you know that they use up mosses are a certain thing that they use them it has a so feline properties and dog you fight with yourself and I've been it cleanses you it cleans you and down you know even now do you chew that it will clean the Platte Valley your teeth that that what I mean use that for your loss before I before pipe ceremony something like that they chill on Devon and feels it too so I don't have my germs onto this guide here you know that so it's that way we said we'd have a purification maintaining a cleanliness of this individual you know not try to maintain that child's of the friendliness of that child so we even have layers of that within their backpacks of course back in them tasting they travel in that the old lady was telling us that the younger lady the one hundred and sixteen year old baby she was she was telling up step down Oh Lydia Nancy Smith she was telling us that down today is day innate they can't do what we did she said diet because of diet and the way they access of its different dissidents they can't do that if they do that today they do miss I'm scary back in our day she said it's nothing to walk a hundred miles with a backpack nomadic tribe my remembered is a scared living room they're working of course our whole ad Teresa Susie her grandmother there's Blizzard she's ready to add this baby she said one morning on my own completely back to you say why wouldn't you they call them going under the snow what they do is I she has a an additional role back here silver back over here and then interior to district back room over here she has a layers if those were what you were we were talking about earlier boss hide must my moms like that kind of thing what did that me son then she pulls all those strings over here underneath this under the snow and then one of them is I call them for Trenton something like that would be called that layer that's the layers were that let me see nothing they have a a way to cut that so when you wrap that it's uh and and of course they're the cuttings and those report from this month of this tip over here of how incredibly different the tools that specialized tools for them to lay down their certain bones but they have the way a drying process of the three-step dry bone and brace in a certain way and they get it a certain way flakes be pointed out that's the word that they used into at night a sort of a call the white buffalo night there's nothing an organization in the states called white but one leg and then cut with that thing and it's like it never gets never gets done it seems like it's getting sharper and sharper so things like that so that there is best there's very specific pure things she puts that on built rapport with that and then holds the bottom of that from the child's tummy over here hold it little bit here and then leave without the moon tie a loop so real soft buckskin and the end over there waits for that we call it a miracle where it ceremony there's a ceremony for that but we can't get into those pending because kind of more let's tell you a little bit this is just a touch of that not good in jolla kind of like a little touch of it so that there they have that part of that and then the percent and they take that and it's a percent of their here remember she had a backpack she pulled it down here and and he wraps it around in that waving layer in the percentile here of those must must hide most high alert wiping the earth and percent and they discuss with update they call that that means that it has its cut in such a way so that when you wrap it it becomes very tight everything's you they go there's a ceremony for that two different types of all of these different things we have there is specific orderly way of acknowledging that childbirth holding a child wiping the first one there to have that mother later they're like being pretty layered and she's seeing the child you don't kiss a child in a lipstick palette you know and do that because remember your little ID each other can be doing that and don't know here's some place maybe but they say immediately relate yourself right away remember that were you talking about that super sensitivity word if you think that the wait till they're understand three years old um you know I would say okay hey my daughter my son there maybe you don't see that that time if you think like that they say are that super sensitivities nakedness holding language given which they were used to hearing in those TVs it's like you cut that off but do you you continue the process you see being the red kingship with that child right are we seeing Magua who do you see you see that child even words we have we can't translate them into English we tried close to it but we can't translate them they're like this one word we say a Patrick Buffalo one kind of Navi challenged our high school scholars we have some all kinds of scholars are there some what about super and all these different psychologists with different ones and a couple of them not too many but some of them persevered in much with cheesy we were challenging them along with Alex and fourth-year student some of them into your master's degree level we challenged them an ad on every guy's can translate that word on me for me he said to them a word and the free word I mean and their endings right ology leads and he no no we can say that this one is it's uh what it is it's on this incredible feeling what if this is maybe sometimes you get along on you about feeling calm you have to pretend if you if you don't have a child of your own pretended you have a tiny little baby brother or a baby sister and you're carrying your little tiny baby sister and they're not once in a while you get this incredible rush and you only you kiss your baby brother and it's incredible feeling you have what happens is uh it's so incredible that feeling maybe a braiding or whatever when tears come out of your eyes as if it's so um so overwhelming that feeling yeah cheers come on it that we have a word for that that's the word that they're talking about when you say on me but these guys they feel this fun ladies we look back over there huh huh let me try but anyway we have words like that they don't like it so they had that they his that baby there but they immediately really immediately followed by Nicholas II miss our system then I'm you know lonely in the most who it secretly is you you little Spidey and I call you he's allowed me to call you my child you have a way of expressing and then from there you come me the kiss in that and then the word and then you're relating yourself with each other you either say my son or my daughter I mean it was just me it sounds immediately relate yourself if you do that that word that we're talking about review for work it's like a skate going number and loving going bond growing morning love on them know they're interchangeable you think that you see maybe in those points within those ceremonial stages of growth of develop IV happen to beat those what using two things only open prayer we don't know if you want to hit it either but we happen to hit when did their own people you can connect with that word we call it soccer schedule childhood stay with stay close to you later at that child we are even worse for that made Simmons that's the birth we you've mentioned what she is pretty hard to try and explain some of those paranoid your your you begin those processes right from conception and you're doing certain things and now it's meant God this is know what the motional spiritual in here your but that the focus is on the child and your wanting to do you go through it those even firsts and everything but first time they kind of you know like they see something kind of it during their hair that's a ceremony first smile you know the first love first part I must have been a big ceremony way those fingers like that they know they have different acknowledgment wave ceremony that's so they're M we can't allow that teacher ceremony but we have our you know just start with what did this is done again that word supersets activities with them using MC again that unseen link spiritual link and then escape it's bridging them job that's the pre-contact belief system we had here probably is very loaded the oneness maintained in the society in true you had their own beautiful history of creation stories too we respected those to their stories but we just had our own story too and they respected us intertribal likes it comment the nominator stuff a lot of it it's not like the concept when you watch on TV and only looking into the TV and we say mother nature just said mother nature that if I have anything with us it's when you say mother mother earth we mean it literally she's a living daily everything that separate living within their I guess their own way of connecting this just be birthed itself you know that how they so those are my dad used to call it a university of nature is more detail different versions of it don't amount of the mother which is a mother leader think part of that with the babies that she's with we do a about that's the word that they use that means all those deities that are better they take that back but you that's all you know that's you some of them tell us something yeah they they tell us that they leave it in for four different for different levels for different places and they all people they say are because it depends on how close you get to this belief system you know everything is alive and well and how will you address yourself in a deal to gestural mannerisms or whatever to that and when you get close close enough to it people say you can actually hear the echoes of their so a cooling bubble you could hear it right up and pump up a shoe a label and be very clear the same time it says it's cold everywhere so that's what they're directly relating to so there's no one questions what happened yes stages that never gets enough air Pournami aya - developmental stages and girls develop on me naptime we are happy peace uncomplicated player yeah it doesn't mean opening daily it will push kick up shut up easily but all of them to come early ah he kept coming she'd will probably take integrally she vomited [Music] jerking it done it in peaceful even Tata peace among peers in Prague getting the couch I'm a big star in each town with indicated Roscoe sella turcica that's hotel in each parent can be 211 as futuristic on k2m can you tell with almond captain I would see em it's still connected don't know Gordon you can make this book is online equation let's go here the universe commitment input Rancic it's iike soon meet ciénaga are so we are so are pagan mother that's what they're relating trouble with ever advance you get see so so done that's part of them so that they will get see that's your question so one that's why that etymology she wanted it and I think a lot of them I'm finally note one of my uncles are actually a couple of my uncles they went even even with other nations of people they have bellus those sound like one of my uncle's went to AA couple of them went to uh Egypt in different parts of Egypt in different places and they have this one symbol that's uh they call it down kind of like a common denominator some and the symbol is fat it's a circular it's and how you sound out that symbolism and it's the same symbol that they have over there the same sound that there goes from that simple how about a universal sounds that we let they produce over here till we have that so it's like kind of like a common denominator base they say that they're starting points and they think you can go from a starting point these people it takes time but if you eventually get there sometimes they say yeah years of protocol maybe we hope to promote people which we get to but the thing about that whole process are with our own people is that it's like because they are one family it's kind of like what like what I was talking about with those people that that hidden kind of like you have to almost like be a part of their family in it's not like you have to it might take you years on that or something but eventually you get to a point where you really do trust you enough love me enough and you're just like that family member and there they begin to give you a little bit more than just as some very very light stuff you decide not to be or you can go to eat on Tuesday nights and he teaches crazy elaborate story of the philosophy we just wanted to make sure that we that we mentioned this all this week in all next week is the roof of room forming learns Aboriginal performing art accessible and it's going on at the library downtown as well as that GPA and your loss they know it's going on there as well and you can look on the Alberta Aboriginal Performing Arts website you'll see all of the fantastic place and poets and music of all kinds of artists one of our daughters so pay well actually eight six daughters but she's one she's the co-founder by the aboriginal performing arts and she's also the chief executive officer how about a dream speakers welcome so there's this there's this some cooperation or partnership between them so there's film of all kinds of Aboriginal artists there's dance and is all is all ever to the equal minion I mean so so many people think where is the space of Aboriginal people in this city well here is the base for the next two weeks this is going on I only have one little calendar with make them but there's a fantastic play huh going on at the library downtown starts at 7:30 for weeks it's just a fantastic passage play and then they have like a fusion night where they have poets and singers and musicians and visual artists working all at the same time there's a really fantastic pheasant festival that Aboriginal artists are putting on over the next I guess two weeks now to one and a half week and now to be so like I say I'll leave this with you livers okay and if you could use your network possibly tips and it's um but people know what's going on and I also want to thank you so much for coming out this evening I hope that we help to expand your your knowledge a little bit more like you suddenly beg my my husband where his sharing of knowledge and the committee that helped to put this on thank you so much and we really enjoyed being here with you this evening [Music] you

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