levitated spoon benders water diviners beware James Randi psychic investigator is among you I'm not here to demean anybody I'm not here to put anybody down so to speak I'm here to investigate I can anticipate from my past experience 35 years of it in this business that it will probably be the essentially the same story that it's been everyplace else in the world people who innocently deceived themselves and that small residual of people who go out of their way to actually defraud the rest of the are their fellow citizens and you've got $10,000 in there are two Australian businessman who have each got 10,000 it's $30,000 for anyone who can successfully demonstrate the paranormal how confident are you of keeping your money well let me see now I'll show you the check I've lured this check around now this one has only been carried since June 25th 1985 to renew it every now and then I don't know about your banks but every six months they checked like this goes dead you see it's no longer valid for 15 years this is the 15th year I've carried a check around like this in this terra delue old wallet that check for $10,000 I've never had to give up 5 cents of it so far that doesn't mean that I won't doesn't mean that I'm not willing I can lose I can lose $10,000 but I would gladly surrender that $10,000 if I were given evidence of one paranormal ability of any kind because it would open my universe much larger than it is it's a wonderful universe I live in I enjoy life from day to day I have my ups and downs like everyone else but I think it is a wonderful world that we live in I don't need miracles of a semi religious nature as they put it in order to make my world any better but to be offered something like that to know that a person could float in the air could find concealed water underground could bend a spoon by merely thinking about it that would make my universe a hundred times bigger than it is and all the more marvelous it would be worth $10,000 you in the arid inland of Australia water is priceless because it doesn't rain very often so farmers must pump it from underground but first they have to find it and throughout Australia many farmers sink their bores on the advice of men who claim a paranormal or supernatural power the ability to detect or divine the presence of unseen water underground the belief is widespread and it's been entrenched for hundreds of years James Randi is here to test it and he's frankly skeptical and I am told from my correspondence here and from other people who have been here that this seems to be a very popular delusion the idea that people can douse with a fork stick or bent coat hangers or whatever that they can actually find water well if they can all well and good again my concern is not how they do it but if they do it maybe it's mental maybe it's it's a psychic power that's tied up with the brain itself do you feel any different after you've been divided no no not really can you do it any time of the day poem of the day or night anyplace now max you say that you can divine not only water but you can divine from aerial photographs and you can divine gold and other metals that's right yes could you divine a piece of brass that I've buried along this fence here somewhere ragnar can you let's give it a try all right that shows you the direction as well it does at times yeah but um I'm just gonna be careful that you know because of this now when they crossed what does that mean well when they cross I'm should be directly over the top of the gold well either there or Pat way between my body and it you're saying it's somewhere down here just there yeah sure enough there it is wrong how did you do that I didn't do it the rods done a bit like uri geller I watched him on television and I believed him he was bending spoons and doing things by paranormal powers just by his mind and I looked at it and it looked absolutely logical but we found out later that it was it was not true at all he was just a magician and they're all being bent by hand I'd like to introduce you to the green keeper now he knows exactly where the pipes are underneath the ground here would you like to show us where you think they are yeah the part the pipe goes down this way hmm and there's a junction there which send the boy back up along here at this fight and the pipe goes this way there straight along there is that right yeah that's right yep can you make a living out of water divine well I newly reared my family on it you really did yeah at Gosford you we've seen people following water pipes the greenkeeper saying yes there the water pipes that's exactly where they are we saw a man find a little brass knob in a place where he didn't know where it had been planted I mean are you surprised by that well no because not one of those is a scientific test unfortunately because we can't obviously dig up the Golf Links to find it if the pipe is there and we can't find out if no one knew no one saw where the particular piece of brass was hidden are you psychic I believe so Paul how do you know that well certain experiences we've had over a lifetime that just been more than coincidence and it makes you realise that you have a power or have something that is different to other people if these guys can can do the scientific test well I'm very happy to pay the money out are you prepared to take on dick Smith's $30,000 competition indeed I'm right in the fist and $30,000 are these easy getting in there to bed it'd be the easiest days divining I've ever had of fur if the money comes forward I believe all these people are genuinely their various rods and that are moving but whether there's water there or a pipe there I don't know I'd like to try and prove it one way or the other the cream of Australia's diviners gather in Sydney to take up the $30,000 challenge of the sceptical trio dick Smith Philip Adams and James Randi the idea is it's really very hard to keep a perfectly level and relaxing your hand the slightest bit it'll come up or it'll go down one or the other you can't see any apparent movement of the hand it's actually a tense system which is out of balance and it's very hard to keep it in balance this thing I think there's something to it there let me go Oh heaven we've broken the only proper well do you think if you see James rain D bending a spoon in the same way that little Laurie does that you'll think maybe Arie was just a magician I will if I can see him do that genuinely but tell me when I read it what did we just do it in front of you he took the spoon he just rubbed it and gradually it bent just like that right a new kind that was very convincing it's although I haven't tried to bend I wanted to preserve it as it was yeah those claiming paranormal powers have enjoyed good and largely uncritical publicity from the Australian media but now it's the turn of the sceptics well it bent in front of my eyes in the film Chris house wouldn't little already be sort of used by bhp and all these companies for bending metals and everything cause I mean I really mean that just seems incredible oh I mean that's another thing isn't it but look I saw that Ben now you can say it didn't Bend there is trickery or whatever but until you can prove it scientifically I know what I saw tricks don't look like trickery if they're well done when a man makes the lady float in the air if it looked like a trick people say looks like a trick but it doesn't look like a trick it looks perfectly logical it looks if it is a not logical press but it looks perfectly real because the man is giving the illusion of doing that Randy what don't you believe in I don't believe that two plus two equals five I don't believe in Santa Claus the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny the first I don't believe simply because by definition two plus two equals four and always will one hopes I don't believe in Santa Claus the Tooth Fairy the Easter Bunny because there's not sufficient evidence for them the same breath I don't believe in ESP precognition water divining spoon benders and whatnot because there's not sufficient evidence for them either what evidence there is is very sketchy it's obtained under abominable conditions and no scientific tests have been done in spite of claims of the country no scientific tests have been done well here's the spoon anyway that was Ben by re the Melbourne boy several years ago can you tell me that that was trickery even though I felt like that because I wasn't there all I can say is it's more probable it is trickery than that it is a supernatural occurrence because you had met that the conditions were not scientifically we're not complete whatsoever now the conditions weren't scientific about it appeared as that he bent the spoon as if you did yes all right well I'm how would that be done how would that sort of trickery or sleight of hand be done would you take this loon and hold it between your fingers like this in front of me like that put your elbows on the table let's present it so that it is thoroughly visible now you're holding it firmly pinch it like that so that you have good control over it finds it turn it just a little bit sideways like a little bit like that that's fine now I'm really going to stroke it with my index fear I'm not putting undue pressure on if I put pressure on like that I would move your arms right right I'm not putting undue pressure on you're going to get a remarkable illusion taking place here you will think if you aren't very careful you would begin to think that it looks rubbery am I correct yes now I'm putting very little bit hold it very very lightly very very so you're barely holding it look at this it appears divot getting rubbery that go over for a second if you will now I'm just gonna hold it like this and I'm just going to heaven mr. Gamble's is there no an advance parody I did it rather well I think I think you did it very well but how did you do it her to tell you that you'd be as smart as I am and I don't want you to be quite as smart as I am because then you wouldn't serve come on now this is you say this is the one that already been yeah but just by stroking it gently I bet you'd been on it fantastic now if I put it beside this one there's a very evident difference on that trip yeah take this between your hands see if you can bend it go ahead and it's done watch you see it was done are you looking right that's a different contour altogether I simply took it as I called your attention this drop to blow the table gave us a dandy but no the other one indeed it is and if you watch the film carefully you'll see that that's exactly what happened but can you say that because that it was an illusion that the people who purport to bend spoons our illusionists no but I can say there are two explanations either that they have supernatural powers which means that all of science for the last many many centuries thousands of years is down the drain law of inverse-square is conservation of energy then the laws of thermodynamics are absolutely down the drain we have to rewrite all of that that's one explanation the second is that it's a simple trick which is the more likely of the two solutions of course the second one that it is a simple treatment why are you so interested in showing that some people might be illusionists I saw a spirit church operating a spiritualist Church I should say which they're apparently getting messages from the dead with holding envelopes with sealed messages inside them to their foreheads and in watching that I recognized that I was seeing something that was in the magic books I I mean something that was legitimately in the magic books and was a regular routine that was performed by magicians on stage for purposes of entertainment when I saw that in in conjunction with a few of my comrades at the time we were all really dismayed we saw a little lady sitting there with tears running down their faces believing they were getting messages from the beyond we saw all kinds of flummery being done from that moment on I was convinced of one thing that I had to eventually use my expertise and my authority in this field to convince people that they could easily be fooled it's time that the scientists spoke up it's time also the magicians who know better than this sort of field that they speak up and say when they see another magician working and it's time that the newspapers and the media in general stop promoting belief in this paranormal nonsense because it is claptrap and flummery from n2n they must take a rational point of view and they must introduce a skeptical point of view on Sydney's outskirts a team of workmen begin preparing the site for Australia's first definitive test of water divining the test has been designed with the complete agreement of the water diviners themselves ten parallel trenches are dug to take ten plastic water pipes the diviners will have to detect in which pipe the water is flowing it now what what the pipes what one meter apart where's the the tile one can go everywhere 20 out in here they're going to be left open and can we get little holes in the top of the pot so i can d/l up at Bell box on all of these right if we just have little holes in the top of the pipe - no there's more than flour yeah just a propane see so that anyone who looks at it can tell there is water flowing in that pipeline you got what are you gonna use I've been here for you oh now water flowing drill pipe like this is about such a vault a beautiful job you've done there good old us it's Val Vox all those rich valves be in the ground yeah very good that's excellent laughing oh this hold on that mounts like they're metal just go over the confident logos over there lovely we're not going to bury this until tomorrow Oh easy no no we want them to see that it is a legitimate setup that the pipes are in the ground they must understand every fact about this thing up until the last moment they will not understand in which pipe the water is flowing it's like I won't know it that's all tada yeah and then we'll bury it up that's a no yeah we don't we don't want to Barry Barry at moments before oh so they're absolutely sure that nothing took place overnight they're going to suspect because the powers I think will not work they're going to suspect some chicane Murray we've got to show them every detail of it they must be absolutely assured in their own minds that the test is being done fair then they each do a divining test over the area beforehand that's right if there's no water that's gonna work if they've got to say where it is and if I say that it's near pipe number six or something then we say okay we will not use six then their chances are one out of nine we hope we won't have to be doing all this work you believe in what device yeah if there's ten pipes there right and now put water in one of those partners yes and you've gotten to find out which one it is yes and then that'll drain that pipe and then and put it in another pipe and I've got a dry head check the water in which every other pipe really they've gone to quite some deal of effort and work to try and make it clear for all concerned and I think we'll find that in fact I'm sure there'll be a result and possibly ten results tomorrow the way things looking you think ten the ten diviners will be able to get it right I'll be very surprised if that if the ten of them do not I was always skeptical very skeptical he found a bit Arthur odds coincidence I don't know but I don't believe didn't believe it what's your success rate in water divining hundred percent but I believe it now what sort of thumb divining what do you use so you're right every time yes I haven't fire it's just us I found my old retreat right some people use steel one yes we thought that's no better I'm playful you still like that in my hand I'm some years the to and then they sort across yeah but if you ask me to dip that that method what I couldn't do it you can only dip with the wood how many different and you are baited with the wood town well the waters the way I was taught and I think that this test should it go beyond any shadow of doubt and prove to the public generally that water divining is possible does work and will work they're very confident words I'm sure well if you've had success at this game you've become confident in it what what do you reckon I'll say you know if they file you know they all the rationalization so the rationalization is dick you'll be amazed what they come up with its rationalizations they'll they'll invoke astrological signs unfortunate aspects of the moon all kinds of things and also they'll say negative vibrations but but why how can I do that if I get a sign with us the actual if I get a sign and say that they're very happy and I've checked a bit of pipe doesn't make much difference they'll find a rationalization now I've been 35 years in this business and you'd think that I'd be able to come up with all the rationalization I'm surprised yeah Dalles use particularly are very adept at this now to you and me to reasonable rational logical people they have failed and there doesn't seem to be any such power but to them they're not acting logically so what what frustrates me is what's the use of doing this if they we're not going to the only thing you can do and the only person you're going to convince of it is I think particularly the younger generation who are on the verge they say I wonder does such a thing really happen or not the old-timers who have believed in this all of their life they're not gonna change it the morning of the test arrives and there are last-minute preparations with meticulous attention to detail the $30,000 is now a forty thousand another skeptic has thrown his money into the ring going now Roger thank you it is obviously essential to avoid any claims of trickery or deception by both sides the test must be as fair as possible and a valid scientific exercise good morning um we're going to go up there in a few moments and what you're going to see is the sight before it's actually been covered in now I think you're roughly familiar with what's happened we've laid ten pipes parallel meter apart orange and dime they're quite sizable pipes up there you're going to see them laid in the trenches before they're covered over after you retire back here again after you've asked questions that you want to ask and have seen the set up there they're going to come in and they're going to cover it over and drop it down flat but there will be green boxes sticking out of the earth that marked the beginning and the end of each one of the ten paths so you can tell very easily where the pipe is underneath the ground there's going to be no question of that whatsoever later on we'll go through the procedure of how we randomized and we choose one of the paths at random and then the valves are turned on the water will be flowing the judge who is present will determine a that the water is flowing that it was flowing during the test and after the test that it is still flowing until it's turned off so you'll have absolute assurance that there was water flowing and that it was flowing in one of the pipes you won't be told any of the results no one will be told any of the results on any individual test or set of tests until everything has been done now there's a good reason for this of course if someone is way ahead of the others and whatnot it's going to discourage everyone else perhaps we don't want any kind of negative influence like that we don't want anyone to feel discouraged okay experiments like this and I found out that one does get a residual effect for some time afterwards I would not be certain in my own mind whether it was moister within the pipe or a possible magnetic effect caused by the initial flowing of the war okay if it could we have attempted to get around that that's always a possibility of course the site that you'll see up there is built on a slope a couple of feet from one end to the other the water is being gravity fed it's being brought in from a hydrant it goes into a drum and from the drum it flows into the pipe so it's not being directly pumped through it's not being forced through in gushes like not only that when the valves are opened up all the pipes drain out because they are running downhill step-by-step James Randi takes the diviners through the testing procedure all have agreed in writing to the conditions all claim to have successfully divined water running through plastic pipes throughout Australia water diviners are earning good money by telling farmers where to sink their bores and now the cream of them are about to put their claims to the test are you satisfied with the conditions they appear to be quite okay Bob yes everything that we have asked for so far has been met with and I think this is very enough this is as much as can be expected the pipes are covered over 40,000 dollars are there for the taking oh yeah yeah we got take what we're gonna have taters though the master judge or something all right good maybe Ted would be the good man to stay with Scott and with Kent well I think so then to make the decisions and his word will be accepted I'm sure by every thought we'll have to check that out I feel they really go ahead to check yellow every one of the pretty first before any water is turned on each diviner checks the area to make sure it's clear of interference that seems clear clear your mind it's clear I'll go right in the square can clear put it back in the bag replace it now now we're going to turn on number nine right in front easy to see what happened I want you to go back to that position this is we've turned it on and then you will come down here and ascertain that you get the dowsing reaction here as soon as it's open let me know and now with the divinest knowledge water is sent flowing through pipe number nine okay gentlemen turn off and then turn off number nine what's the test like let's leave pretty fatally he walked across the number nine with the water flowing through it and you've got a dousing reaction there puppy so theoretically you don't you next time you do it you won't know which pipe has got the water no and you should get a dowsing reaction over one of us certainly should for candidate number one the test proper begins the diviner is not told the correct result which is scrutinized by the Reverend Ted nafse after each run a different pipe is chosen at random the diviner is not allowed to watch was the sensation that you got walking over pipe for the same as it was when you walked over pipe 9 when you you that the water was in part 9 yes exactly this is just the same he divined number 4 yes which part was the water running through well I'm starting I supposed to know that and I suppose be doing this on a double-blind fashion yeah they're coming hell if I knew you but I wouldn't reveal it to you now because people are standing here watching you have a reporter less than a foot behind your shoulder and you would not - did he get the right one I can't undo that most of the diviners claim 100% accuracy but what if divining does not work what if it's pure fiction if they walk over the pipes and try to guess the right one then their chances of accidental success are one in ten ten percent that's the figure to remember ten percent per annum values roughly 14,000 14,000 dollars próxima right so in pain in the purest gold in Australia yeah what's fair just ralien bullion coming golden there's a gyroscope named Mike Mike can you come here is that do you want to just check a divining thing on that therefore kids now fill it up now accessibility ago so that's the goal is what's it the actual goal pulling those rods around or is it just yeah it's a mental mental attitude to the whole show but if you don't know where the gold is if it's in a cardboard box happen your mental attitude work well well you know first of all what's looking for will its middle go right but you turned yourself in we have to whatever you were searching for right I want you can just turn your mind into gold copper brass and that's it just watch how you put your boxes around oh no he'll be doing the go and I know you water yeah I did hates water one no so sure control no roll you can talk now what all the diviners claim the ability to detect metal the testing procedure is simple first each diviner satisfies himself that he can detect the gold inside the cardboard box and then the gold is hidden inside one of ten boxes feels like somebody's got a little bit of cotton tied around the end and pulls it pulls the wire around there's no question about it how did the gentleman with the hat go not very well Bob in test one the gold ring in box sixty picked number for test two was the number seven he pick number to test three was in number seven he picked number two in test four in box nine he picked number one in test five was in box nine he picked number six so he didn't get any right at all hang out Tim well we hope that's you know what happens but you did certain obvious question did sir did you have a go at the gold nugget hips had to go five good quick runs just this big zip radish Creek additional spread over next front soon as a fan what Victor no trouble at all no troubles it just like playground okay to me star just like taken lovely everybody fit what was it like just like taking a layer above baby's mer-pup fair what else can you divine apart from medals can you divine water years over your bowling water whatever oh just you know you can Devon anything you want it get there you can divine gunpowder and parent diamonds just over that object there that's the emitting a form of a beam will Rio or whatever you want to call it and you're just picking up the signal from it that's the bones bones yes I've tried that in England cemeteries in older cemetery and I can tell the length the body the width and the tip and I can get somebody to give me a quarter teaspoon full of marijuana I'd like to sure I can find it if somebody vying that divine marijuana here what's for well gonna go down train somebody did report are you see and they'll also go to Varennes province ship it's well during the ships there on the top of ship and kissy oaks I'll give you a swift kiss the blokes is bring it out during the day more than 100 test runs over both water and metal are made by the diviners and under the watchful gaze of the Reverend Ted nafse and father Laurie Drake who buried their ecumenical differences in the name of scientific inquiry no skullduggery was observed number six six six thing here is the channel okay let's go to hurt sighs the one in this sucker funny water out of it open open yeah binoboost but that first guess is yep in your movies Toby to try that thanks no I don't get it at all I'm planting water right here Ned find led anywhere this is a bit sensitive even you just tilted yeah hey Jo I didn't think you don't have to just walk across it right angles don't tilt you hey right I just don't just think just like Lee the man ruled your hand at all [ __ ] damn well works Carl I found 5 seams of coal and I fail you this slowly we've got to come back the other way why is it working with men it works with you guys all the time if we're to smile with your chin yin I can't see why I'm thinking of otter I think your past history didn't give it I just killed him that I'm sure when I thought I was there well let's check we've been working on this nine.hoorah ever no I'm not shading on they done today the tests that we're done were they adequate to the purpose the testing as far as I was concerned and I think as far as the rest of the diviners were concerned was done as fear and a square's could be I'm convinced it's scientific and there will be a scientific explanation and I if my own tests fell down a low-percentage my theories are shot down in flames and I I'll shut up now I remind you the estimation that was made in some cases was as high as a hundred percent on successfully synced alloys is 80% most most most of you estimating that you would be a hundred percent successful when the number of trials is added together and the chances were 1 in 10 that is 10 percent 10 percent was the chance by purely mathematical chance not with any ability being exhibited just the fact that it would be done by throwing a coin or throwing a dart into a board would be one in 10 or 10 percent and the total results were will I'm going to read out the mental results and tend the other one the mental results with the brass we had no one chose the brass out of 26 tries so that's zero percent and with the gold there were four correct decisions out of 35 attempts and that's about 12 percent so the average for the complete metal gold and brass today was 6.6 percent which is probably a little bit less than what you get for chance and then in the water dowsing and 10 out of a total of 50 tries there were only 11 successful attempts which was 22% the total of everything that is to say the brass the gold and the water mint 111 tries were undertaken there were a total of 15 successful and that makes approximately a percentage of 12% so the result was just a little over the 10 percent but it's equivalent to throwing a dart at random into a dartboard or flipping coins or choosing cards at random it would seem from this evidence that all of what we have done today and this is an agreement with other tests that I have conducted in other parts of the world as I've said it would seem to indicate the dowsing as a force simply does not exist except in the imagination and in wishful thinking of the people to try it I've been able I came water for neighbors and so forth but I would have thought the scores would be much better talking to some of these learning I've learned a lot here personally and talking to the night I want to thought the score would be higher I can only speak for no experience at all in mineral psychologists will tell you there's such a thing as an idiom motor reaction ideal motor reaction is an unconscious reaction in which the person who is operating the machinery or whatever unconsciously tilts are very very slightly changes the position of the hand or however the thing is held now by this I mean with a dowsing rod when you hold a dowsing rod like this the dowsing rod is tensed its enormous attentions a lot of energy put in the thing it's hard to keep it level if you're using the rods and they're sticking out like this it's hard to keep them level and straight as well in order to make them move back and forth the tiniest the hand or the tiniest flexing of the wrist is the only thing that's necessary for them to move and move a great deal either whip up or down or diverge or cross in a great big motion because of that ideomotor reaction comes in if you believe and remember as Dick said when you fellows knew the water was flowing in the pipe that you were told the number at the beginning it was flowing in pipe number two for example it was there you were assured that it was there your reactions were very positive and you were right of course their rods moved from then on it got very difficult and then the decisions were wrong from then on not always wrong but certainly well within chance an awful lot of people seem to believe in water divining the cameraman who's filming this the sound recorders believed in a lot of the judges believes in a Ted nafse believed and if the priest pleased in it how is it so widespread when it's proving to be nonsense well I think the reason water divining has carried on for so long is because water itself is so widespread most of these diviners gain success because they work in areas where the groundwater condition is extremely favorable so in fact I can't miss the green shaded areas show the extent of Australia's underground water as the man said it's hard to miss ideomotor reaction extensive groundwater and its total failure under test conditions this should lay to rest the phenomenon of water divining of the dowsers who are here today I'd like to see a show of hands how many still believe in dowsing let's have a show of hands oK we've got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 and 12 what newspaper you from The Telegraph sorry yes now we did over a hundred tests and the diviners thought that they would be 80 to 100 percent accurate and in fact the accuracy that was worked out by the independent judges Ted nice and the other judges was 11 percent which is virtually the random way that it would go I've noticed over for over the years as the four sunspots interfere with divining take the gold once it had been in a box for a short period then that puts in what some people call the remnants even though all the tests are filed and I said they were very confident happy I said that they would be quite of the stool quad-cam means the dowsing works even though unfortunately this time there will prove that it doesn't work in a way you're a little bit amused in other ways you're very disappointed in human nature when you realize that people simply will not learn a lesson and no matter how much evidence you give but you know it's just oh do I get my check back I decide is the check on the Richard Carlton check has to be given back to him Philip Adams and my check so next time is it still open I think we keep you all I need any time at all I'm game as long as you by the way you guys the offer is still open I've just checked forty thousand dollars if you can get together in a group and come up with something that we can test any paranormal activity or water dividing or something open we're genuinely interested in trying to at least get their mind you two scaring of evidence I'd love to have something it's the skeptics with yet another paranormal specialty a variation of this one fooled investigators in Russia for months oh no don't bring your finger in you pay to the chain did you pay too much attention to this day watch now as a hand moves up watch my mom double you want to go the opposite way yeah oh I knew it lips up he's whiskey yeah watch this watch this now here's a better one yeah just aren't you gonna try juice out you all your lives tell me does do you think you know if people believe in these things is there any harm even if they are deluding ourselves cursors there's an enormous amount of harm in any kind of liar deception whether its political whether its scientific it makes no difference I think I've got a general principle in life that deception is a is a harmful element in life and if the younger generation is raised to believe that there are things that go bump in the night but there are marvelous things that can happen to them if only they'll subscribe to the Maharishi or whatever then I think we've got a very big problem we have to Suri's popular after we channel a little further and I thought that I can ladies and gentlemen the beverage there's little harmony better show the patient what came out of there what you believe that you had this kind of thing in here let me just I've got to heal the whole thing now after I've mentioned to Tara myself I was adjusted to you take a bath tonight there is team two of Jericho little bit of vinegar and tomato sauce okay sir I want to thank you very much for coming up your stage if you'll get dressed now you're doing very different for 35 years James Randi has used humor and trickery to try to convince people that unquestioning belief in the paranormal can be a dangerous thing watch in front of the audience like this the we surgeons have to do things when we can okay folks it looks amusing psychic surgery works alright it makes the psychic surgeons very welcome but it doesn't work for anybody else because people return to their homes and they die there seems to be this kind of abnormal science which says of the ordinary rules of logic do not apply to it that repeatable experiments are not required of it but the rules can change constantly and let's say in tune with the times or what has been written in the sensation is pressed and various other anomalies belong to the signs which snaps it to me as a pseudoscience Shelagh science can be a very dangerous thing many people think I oversell in my case there was a gentleman in California who started up a church a rather shaky foundation for church but part of the foundation was the fact that he thought that he could impress people and indeed he found he could by saying that he could resurrect the dead and in his church regularly she was bringing dead people and resurrected her he would reach into the bodies of parishioners and take from them various substances which he said were dead and tumors but other while he had children they believed they believed that because he had these super normal powers that he had direct contact with some God or other his name was Jim Jonas I think we are probably not yet forgotten though the memory may be somewhat getting that colossal tragedy known as Jonestown 1000 people like it as poison their own children and themselves because they believe that Jim Jones had the way to salvation why do they believe party because of what he said because he had great charisma but very very much because he did it America's investigating these matters
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