It's Been A While (NSPanel Manager and Guests)

[Music] thank you [Music] thank you okay all right let's go do we do we have a live stream are we good are we good I will be live hey Alex thank you as always for jumping in we are live cool we can hear me you can hear me let's close the draw cool you can hear me and we can see me that's always good the two key elements of a live stream I guess audio sounds good nice okay so I'm kind of a little bit prepared also not prepared as usual with live streams but um here's my first failure two seconds there we go hello I'm back oh I was like what the hell is that bright light there's um I've got like an overhead camera because we're going to be doing some project stuff and the Flash was on so there was like death from above but yeah hey Nicholas Tim we're good hey Dave hey Stefan right so as I was saying before I was interrupted by my life we have a bit of a plan today I've tried to prepare a little bit but also everything's a bit last minute like it always is um so we've got a project which I just released a video about the NS panel manager um so I'm going to be running through that live to see how it goes I mean it's it's live so it could go well it could not go so well um but we'll see and I've got both of the developers that are working on that they're going to be joining in the Stream So if you haven't watched that video um then don't worry because we're going to run through the project it's an awesome project if you're an NS panel user um so we'll go through that live run through those things and just see how it goes in general but yeah there's the video in the uh I don't know what side it's on for you but it's over there for me but yeah thanks Alex on the links as always but how is everybody how are you guys where are where are you guys all from audio sounds good I think I already read that but yeah it's double good Alex you've hurt your back was that ripping that tree out I don't think I've done a stream since Christmas or maybe I have I don't know my uh my 12 streams of Christmas that didn't go to 12 they were like seven or something but hey ho New Zealand the Netherlands Washington Denmark cool how many people are watching uh NS panel users do you guys use NS panels or are you thinking of getting one is this gonna persuade you to to join that NS panel crew South Africa nice Portugal cool yes we should probably test if my uh if my web stuff is working um that's probably the best thing to try first I guess it's also like crit like this drop down is this the right way no it's not the right way or maybe it is the right way for you is it I don't know what does the stream look like yeah I think it's back different but it's uh 28 degrees in here so it's pretty hot I've got the fan on Can You Hear The Fan I'm not sure if you can hopefully the noise suppression's pulling it out eighth 85 degrees Yeah but it's uh it's very hot here in the UK I mean 28 like I know there's countries where it's like Mega hot but um yeah 28 is hot in the UK especially when you're not used to um David Langley a little place called Wales I also live in Wales hey all right okay let's see if the microphone Carries On so up first as a kind of first for one of these streams uh for this year I don't know is this the first stream of the year I really don't know maybe it is maybe it isn't the look of realization is it just that one page where I have no audio do we have audio here is just not in the other um is that right did I like have no audio for the whole thing God damn it I told you it was going to be janky do we have sound now ah we have sound oh SpaghettiOs so yeah damn it I told you it was going to be janky um I think maybe the sound just isn't on on any of those um things which is great that I found out now before I uh before I pulled the guests in um how do we do this it's been a while since I did this like I think I just go in here also you can't see my screen because I'm not sharing it because I have no sound when I share at the minute but don't worry we'll fix it we'll fix it so we sent audio input capture device and it's that one I'm gonna say add and then is that right foreign if we transition can we can we hear me still with the uh with the other stuff did I did I fix it hey I did that right plus 10 points um now I just need to resize this thing and press this button it works cool okay I mean it was always nice when things work it works this time so before I cut myself off what I was trying to say was um today's stream is sponsored by minus Forum um these guys are currently running a third year anniversary sale and if you've never seen or heard of them before they're a manufacturer of a whole bunch of computers mainly they specialize in like Intel Nook kind of clones um there's Intel chips in them they also do a whole range of AMD um but the one that I was trying to tell you about is this uh Nook xi7 which is one that I personally use I have this as my PC under the front room and I use it for gaming streaming watching TV doing all of those things but yeah thank you to those guys for sponsoring today's video and maybe towards the end of the stream I'm actually show you one of these PCS because yeah if you're after a kind of a Nook or a Mini PC then check these guys out they make a bunch of really cool hardware and the sale is currently on for the three years so if you're interested check them out now we need to remember how to get back to where I came from there it is okay I also I don't know if you heard me say how many people are watching are NS panel users do you guys make use of NS panels maybe I said that before it cut out and maybe I didn't but yeah Okay so the MS panel manager that's what we're we're streaming about this might be janky as well now by the way when I get the guys in because um it just might be yeah all see also all of the links for everything that I'm going to be looking at the NS panels uh the bits that I'm going to be playing with on the desk um The Minis Forum stuff if you're interested in that all of those should already be in the description I think I was prepared today so yeah um I think then I should I'm going to give you a quick kind of little run through of what the NS panel manager is in case you haven't yet seen my little video and I will try and do it now I think do I have a way of doing this full screen maybe is it this one is it just that one page that doesn't have sound I don't understand it is just that one page doesn't have sound for sure she would just not use that page maybe that page is like cursed I don't know I don't know why this won't work I don't know you can hear me on this it's just that one page so let's just not use that page um I tell you what I could probably do instead is I could probably do this because this is this is all that the page did basically is it just made this um this kind of web page a bit bigger kind of like like that that was basically all the other page did kind of yeah okay we'll just not use that view but hopefully when I add Eric and Tim in um hopefully hopefully yeah oh yeah you can't see it when I'm adjusting until I click the transition button I don't think but I'm also going to open up my own stream and watch myself so that when things break I kind of know foreign the heat look it's gone up to oh it's back to front but it's gone up to 29 degrees now I can hear myself but because I was listening through the um the audio that goes into the mic obviously I can hear it and I wasn't listening to the stream audio so one day I might actually do a stream that works like flawlessly it's uh I'm using OBS Studio no I'm not I'm using streamlabs I lied I'm using streamlabs to do all of this so if there's a better tool then tell me um so I'll try again NS panel manager it's a community um project and it's been created by two guys at the moment um Eric and Tim and the kind of the idea the core concept of it is basically to let you flash your panels with a nice UI and the way that you control them and update them and manage them is all done through a web UI and it just works really well uh they sent it to me um a few days back and after testing out and playing with it like yeah I I personally think it works amazing even in its early state so I'm really looking forward to seeing where it goes how it develops and what changes with it really so yeah for me personally I think it's it's wicked out of all of the the projects that I've tested out and tried this one seems to be the one that's I don't know it's not that the other ones aren't well thought out but this one I can see it just just being around for a lot longer um previously I covered the NS panel Home assistant blueprint um and that one is a really cool project you can customize the UI you can customize pretty much everything but there's a lot of things on there that you might not use and it kind of clutters it up a little bit but the prop I was previously using that one and I have been using that but the problem that I've got with that is when there's an update it breaks um and there's an issue with it still where if an entity if you remove an entity or you delete it or it changes its name or anything like that then the panel won't boot and it can be quite frustrating and it can happen a lot especially if you are somebody that messes around with your home assistant setup quite a lot like me but yeah so let's try and get the guys in and we'll uh we'll speak to them a little bit and then um I I guess I guess um I'll try and run through it live I think the only problem would be my audio Maybe but um yeah let's uh let's find out oh sorry Tim as well I did just see that you messaged me on Discord to say that I have no sound okay let's let's give this a go hopefully guys backstage you ready um [Music] Tim did I lose Tim Tim hello Eric I'm here can you hear me okay I can I can hear you if the YouTubes is working okay so when the audio works if it works we'll uh I'll hopefully get you to introduce yourself so can we still hear me Alex do we have sound do we have sound and am I loud enough okay cool okay we have sound yep okay can we hear Eric hello Eric hello I'm still here can you hear me cool cool yeah okay yeah it's just I mean we're cool Under Pressure that's how it uh it's how diamonds are made into extreme pressure Okay so we've got Eric do we have Tim say Hey Tim I don't hurt him at all okay I don't think I have two on the Stream okay let's try and fix it let's fix it live so we've got Eric this is Eric everybody hello I didn't realize that was on on video Oh I thought they did weird moves sorry about that I'm so excited yeah um I'll try and get Tim and then I'll let you do like a little intro uh out of source um voice there we go is that is that it Tim be that Tim can we hear Tim guys can we hit him oh oh no term we have no Tim um settings properties okay I feel like I've got it now um Maybe um no I don't got it if I change the device Maybe oh man right so if anybody is a wavelink user I'm trying to add Discord through wavelink anybody this open volume mixer so I told you guys that it'd be junky you had fair warning the output device is set to voice chat and any Tim uh no so Tim Tim also is enjoying my video um by the way so Tim is just going to be a voice in the background if I could manage to get him in um do you need to set output device in Discord oh potentially Maybe uh uh I mean that could be I was trying to set it through wavelink voice in video ah okay I think you're on to it Alex that's that's probably it so if I do that output device is wavelength chart then voice chat is voice chat oh I still don't see it in in the thing though can you can you give us some audio Tim oh no maybe Tim has given audio now and I come here yeah sing a song add a chat channel in wavelink probably not oh man I'm just thinking could he join the streamlabs thing although he doesn't have a camera or just no it won't work oh yeah sorry guys so for everybody watching these technical difficulties um I've got the developers here I've got um Eric who's here in video and I've got Tim who is currently here in my ear but you guys can't hear him um so I was trying to like pass through the Discord audio but um I just couldn't get it to to work for whatever reason so I've got Discord set to Output to wavelink and as wavelink voice chat which should be right but then I can't hear it on the output as the Stream um yeah unless it's something like um it's because I've set it after you know after the stream started and maybe it won't pick the device up maybe I feel like that's maybe why I can't see it that's the only thing I can think of but yeah I'm sorry Tim I messed it up um can I pass another audio channel in like the desktop or something and then have it spit out to the Duster Maybe um I don't think you'll be able to join in that video thing either to be honest okay um you set the root in all up so I think because I've tried to add this after um after I've made the change to the settings in Discord and stuff after I've started the stream and then I think um streamlabs isn't isn't seeing the new audio thing uh desktop audio device can I do it like this instead okay um if this one doesn't work now then I'm kind of out of ideas um can I get some audio from you Tim Tim are you there is it possible to root the audio through Eric um yeah I'm thinking about that as well but sure can yeah I'm here team now can we hit him now did I do it oh they can hear Tim they can hit him but Tim's not talking oh I think I heard myself through the YouTube stream but it's a horrendous delay and I hear myself okay so oh it works okay it's working is it working I mean it's delayed is it delayed for you Tim or is it delayed for that um yeah do do you need the the volumes pumping up sometimes much louder than everybody else on the stream so you might want to drag my volume down yeah we can uh I think I can do volume adjusting adjustment uh uh like I think you need to drag me down actually or maybe not I don't know I'm just thinking have you muted Eric on Discord yeah I if I unmute Eric though then the because Eric's on video um Eric's video might be delayed with his talking through Discord then is that okay um do we have levels now I'm really sorry Tim but it's probably going to be a bit like delayed and out of sync for you okay yeah are we good are we like we're half an hour in and we're yeah I'm just think I'm just thinking maybe maybe Eric can uh can I still hear you Eric you're deep into hello yeah I'm here cool but uh it sounds like I mean Tim you're answering pretty straight after the questions is it or am I I mean I could I can meet you in Discord um oh no I can't you Discord I could mute myself in Discord and then you'll hear me through the stream and then your answer will come through so the video will be delayed for you but the oh wait where's Discord gone ah it's good it was going so well um is that better for you if I do that Tim if I mute you in Discord everybody count together what on two three four five um does does that work for you wow I'll manage anyway are you just gonna have to bear my own voice I guess okay I'm sorry Tim next time next time we'll get up right I'm sorry everybody we're back um I think we've got everybody now but the NS panel manager it's these guys that are doing it so we've got Eric here and we've got Tim who is joining just by voice um so do you want to kind of introduce yourself Eric yeah sure uh I'm Eric I call myself cables and coffee I do some YouTube stuff um I love home automation um I'm an open hand user actually I'm not a home assistant user so let's uh my biggest Hobby and I've been working with this Anna's panel thing since it came out it's been my yeah put put a lot of time into that so yeah that's kind that's me and are you are you there Tim Can You intro you there might there might be a delay as well with um with Tim actually speaking to us oh Tim has actually messaged me saying he's having problems YouTube stir around I am here um I well a bit yeah might be a delay um I've been doing this endless panel project now for a couple of months and I I love home automation been doing um programming for well nearly 20 years now so uh yeah it was it's been a fun project and I to look forward to see where it goes cool yeah so I'm using home assistant by the way yeah so Eric is an open Hub user um for some reason [Laughter] um yeah so Eric's a long time ago yeah Eric's um big on openhab and Tim is home assistant um so there's like a what's nice about that is there's a good kind of cross with the whole development as well so you know things have been made not just for home assistant and not just for openhab so that's nice um so yeah it's do you wanna do you wanna go into like what's what's happening um with the whole project um like you kind of road map or anything like that Eric uh oh man I've lost the audio this is a this is going about about as well I think we lost Eric [Music] oh man no Tim no I can hear Tim but I can't hear Eric oh man I don't know what's happened to your audio it's like we can't have everybody all in the same room yeah I saw your webcam go blank Eric and then your sound disappeared when you got back are you able to like refresh or leave and rejoin Eric now it's now it's dark we've gone dark thank you all for uh tuning in Eric's back but we got the no sound no sounds uh I can probably pull your audio just through um Discord Eric Maybe um Mike to answer your question the NS panel manager does not run on the Android version um so the NS panel Pro it's separate totally the original NS panels based on an ESP um so it's got a little ESP chip in there whereas the Android one doesn't um we can see your video on the stream being Eric just just not um but yeah yeah it's just me again right right well uh it's just just me um Tim you're still here I'm not a man I must do I'm still here maybe you can unmute Eric on Discord and he should be able to join boys I unmute the Discord now okay uh now I have an echo do we still have the echo like this is it through because you shared no Echo oh man the echo is gone okay now is the echo back well I can't hear any Echo hey guys welcome to another episode of janky live streams with Mark okay so we have no Echo we have no Eric and we have no uh Tim Tim am I listening to you through the call Maybe I can't hear Eric now Tim am I speaking to you through Discord I think we have Tim okay we have Tim Tim do you hear me no I heard myself through the YouTube stream I can hear you through the stream I don't hear Eric though Eric is gone um I think that the I think that the audio is set up right for Discord so if we can get um Eric through the Discord then we'll be fine but Venus so you guys have sat here patiently for like 40 odd minutes I think I might just uh jump in to actually start and showing the the project does that sound okay to you Tim I mean Tim you can probably talk to me through Discord now um oh no are you listening you're listening to me through the Stream I just muted the stream and got back to Discord now I think Eric will need to use headphones because I think that maybe that was the echo he didn't use any headphones oh okay Maybe Maybe right Eric if you were there then um we're just gonna crack on dude um Tim if you want to try and message Eric maybe um if you are just tuning in now we are going to go through the NS panel manager um so all I need to do now is put it so that you can see this overhead camera but before I jump to that um I need to just add the audio to it so hello and welcome Eric give us a sign um okay so if I remember it's add audio add this one and add so if I jump over to it now we're here can we can we hear me like this and we should also have the voice chat as well can we can we hear me before I uh start guys guys yes yes we changed and it worked honestly one day I will I will figure this out and then we'll like live stream all the time because it is fun live streaming it's just stuff doesn't work so where's the camera the camera's like yeah so we have a new s panel but what we're going to instead do is we're going to use this one so this NS panel is currently flashed with the NS panel panel Home assistant blueprint which is a really hard name um it's a great project which was created by um blackmus but it's a really hard name to say whereas what we're going to be doing today is the NS panel manager um so if you watched my overview I roughly skimmed through the project um there's kind of three main parts to it would you kind of agree with that Tim but there's three main parts to your project so you've got the mqtt broker which you can host and run on either your home platform so in my case it would be through home assistant you've then got the web UI and then you've got the parts that you flash and write to the panel well yeah I'd agree with that but the project is kind of useless currently without a home assistant or openhab so you will need that as well okay so the fourth thing you need is a smart home platform to actually consume and use the uh stuff which yeah I guess that makes sense can we hear Tim was I in the Stream so also can we see can we see this panel [Music] we can hear Tim if he speaks well yeah that's kind of a prerequisite hmm um Eric is on Discord now with headphones Eric are you there I'm here can you hear me oh sure can't hear you can I turn your use up can we hear Eric and we can see this panel in my hand right let's um not lose these screws I'll put them there so you guys can see them yay Eric is back yay Eric do we know what happened I told you it's going to be junky I have no idea I didn't do anything no it was probably me I probably should use it like a different streaming software but uh yeah so is everybody an NS panel user do you do you know what the NS panel is before we before we get started if you didn't know um so the NS panel inside of it is a ESP chip you then got a nice little touch screen for doing all kinds of touchscreen actions and then you've got two physical buttons those physical buttons linked to um two relays that you can control independently with those buttons and uh that's it in short so out of the box you get the default zone-offs firmware which is okay but you're kind of limited to just sewn off devices and if you're in the sonoff ecosystem that's fine um and if you if you don't like the turn off software um then flashing is a good route which is what we're going to be doing but the sonoff software isn't terrible you're just limited to sign off things there are Integrations like the sonar flan that you can use to actually control the stuff some things locally anyway um even things through the panel um but the panel itself still isn't local so what we're going to be doing is having a go at setting up the project that Tim and Eric have been working on the NS panel manager so the first thing we need to do is to put a bit of firmware on this panel and we're going to try and do it live so um yeah Vic's just here for the train wreck I mean we're what 50 minutes in and we've just been like dealing with audio issues so it's probably about time we had some um hardware issues if you've seen any of my other NS panel content then the device that I always like to use is this um which is the Ft 232 um and it's like a little USB tttl flashy thingymabob um and what I what I like to do is I can get this to the camera is I like to take the header pins off of a Raspberry Pi or something like that where you've got header pins and I just pulled the pins out and then thread my cables through and the reason for that is just because you get this nice rigid um I mean you could you could do it with anything you could put a bit of plastic a bit of blue tack whatever you wanted um but yeah you get a nice thing that holds it in place and with the panel that's all nicely lined up too can anyone hear today if we lost Dave yeah it is like a zoom call I mean it probably would have worked better if I actually did the zoom cool and passed it through there um but yeah do you have anything you want to add to the whole flashing process Eric and Tim no not really the the image we will be releasing will be able to be flashed through anything basically I know there's a few softwares out there that sort of wrap around the ESP tool software that expresses themselves release but currently it's just a script yeah so that's the way that I'm going to be trying to do it now live is um is with the ESP tool um yeah you can use any kind of flashing tool that you like but the one that I'm going to use is the ESP tool also it feels more pressure now because um previously I had Eric on screen too but now it's just me um what could go wrong so what I like to do is I usually take a little spudger and I kind of just lift the panel slightly but I don't know where I've put it unless it's in this drawer which would be super convenient so I just take a little spudger or something um because with this panel underneath your pins here um underneath these pins that you that we are going to be using uh there's a bit of metal and if you push the pins too far through then it will touch and it won't flash so what I always like to do is just give it a little lift like that I'm not going to try and zoom the camera in because I feel like I'll mess something up so I don't know that's the stream up again I'd rather just get on with the project what could go wrong how do you do it Tim what's your kind of go-to and how do you do it Eric what's your how do you guys do it have you got yeah I usually just well lay it on the back to begin with but I have this sort of similar setup too I use header pins but I just stick them through a little bit and then put them on a tilt so they're in like a friction fit and then I just pull them there because it doesn't take many seconds to flash okay so um yeah what about you Eric what's your kind of go-to because I imagine you're the same flashing loads of um yeah yeah I think Tim might have been the one that's flashed this panel most I just broke one because it's just working on it so much but yeah I do the same thing I just tilt them so it doesn't short circuit in the back there and then I just do what Tim says use the script there and it goes super fast yeah so do do um I should probably try and get that up on screen as well so we can see the whole flashy flashy open um so if I start this terminal and then I'll share the terminal that you guys should be able to just kind of follow along and add a source uh is there a window capture a window capture that's what I want add add it would be too easy to do that wouldn't it like um if I add it it goes like this can you see like the whole drawing the mouse why can't why can't things just work uh uh yeah drop some likes to you know I'm sure if we get more likes it'll make the um it'll make things work I mean the other thing that we could do right is maybe it doesn't like showing it like this maybe it likes to share a desktop I'm so well prepared and true um it's a good job it's an early release as well right okay so what we'll Instead try and do is share the desktop and um hide this thing then if I pull it up here does that work oh oh I also need to press this button right hey how's that that's that's kind of better I can probably put the camera behind that too maybe all the things that you have to think of um like that but transition put this thing on the bottom nope put this thing there foreign like that where should we put this for this like yeah I can hide that event list then I have to remember to keep pressing the button we're getting somewhere now um so then if I take this one and I need to flip it that way like that how's that is that is that better uh can you make the camera one a little bit bigger Eric can tell me you're having fun that's the main um the main thing yeah yeah for sure it's interesting it'd be more interesting if it just uh worked okay we should go like that like we can foreign we can kind of see that right it's fine thanks Vic thanks Alex confirmation to just um hype me up and get get ready for uh this paneling I also have a screen down here I probably should have used this one it's easy for me to actually read and see hindsight it's a wonderful thing um okay okay so what we what we're going to be using now to flash this panel is the ESP is 29.8 degrees here by the way in this office with the fan on full um what we're what we're going to be using to flash this is the ESP ESP tool um and the way that I do this um you can tell me if you personally use this if there's a better way of doing this is I just open it up in the terminal um and then I just use the standard ESP so Target the tool um Target the right flash Tim you're probably a great person to ask for this because you've probably done this millions of times um but then I sometimes be lazy and rather than actually check what um check what com Port the the actual wherever it is wherever I've dropped it wherever the the flashy the flashy stickers um I just I just let it scan any port and I mean the probably the downside to that is if you were using multiple sticks or multiple things trying to flash over your com ports you might accidentally Flash the wrong one so yeah that's basically the only drawback I know all yeah um so yeah so what you could do is you could go through your device manager and find out what port your USB is on um or if you do it how I'm gonna do it now it will just try and go through all of them um I guess the other downside is if this is on like port 10 or 7 or whatever it will try and go through all of them till it finds it so if you're watching and you've got a better idea of how how to do it I don't always use ESP tool either I've just been using ESP tool to do this because I found it kind of quite quick to do so what we want to do is we want to make sure we're on three volts obviously have you flashed any with five volts Tim no I'm not but uh I don't mean to try either yeah I think it's gonna end bad yes it would um do not flash with five volts um oh the other thing that I need to do here um so here I'm targeting the flash tool I need to Target the actual bit of firmware um so if I get that now um I don't know if you know this but you can also add The Bard flag I guess yes you can yeah yeah and it's going to go a lot quicker um yes you can do that how much quicker is it like against the default one just the default one well I I think the default is 115200 right uh I think with the highest board it's like well I don't know 20 30 seconds maybe if it's not even if it's not even faster to actually flash her what did you put for your um I sounded in the Discord Shadow it's a 92 16.00 yeah so you can set your board rate to adjust the speed is it if it goes too fast it doesn't Flash properly we don't want anything yeah it's kind of like um if it goes too quick and the connection is not good enough it might fail yeah so if it doesn't work the first time you can try and lower it right so basically something like that so we want to use the ASP tool to Target a right you can set the board right and you can also specify the port which I mentioned before um anything else there are there are other flags you can Target and if you just run the ASP tool without anything it will tell you all of the ones that you can that you can set so we're going to link up our ground pin and then we're going to go straight on I don't know if you'll hear the beeps of this oh did I make a typo there um I did make a typo this is fun all right this is why we do this live it's hard to see as well because I've um because I've scrolled it right in yeah I mean at least it's not smoking okay right we're writing yeah so if it goes pop now then I did something wrong um oh I haven't put the board right in okay this is good isn't it uh so the board rate that Tim was just talking about um is a flag that you can set um and it will you can use that to adjust how fast it's writing and if you don't put did I set one at all no I didn't so I'm doing all the defaults so mine's just writing with defaults so it will change how fast it goes I mean this isn't terribly slow but it can be quicker so all that we've done here is use the ESP tool to Target um this USB and telling it to write the firmware to NS panel is there a way to is there like obviously there's like um ESP you can do it through the web um task motor can do it through the web would that be something that you can add to the webview item well it's something I've thought about it's nothing I've looked into but I mean other projects been able to do it so why not yeah yeah might look into it it's probably not the highest of priorities but for sure something we can look into cool yeah so there we go that's the that now should be the panel flashed and if I go to um whichever camera it was this one I mean I hope we can I hope we can still hear me um so that should be the panel flashed so that's that's your kind of Step One your panels flashed well actually no I tell a lie step one is to actually set up the the docker container um for the whole web UI which we also did well I did it off off camera anyway so um so right now we flashed this and the next step is going to be to connect to the access point for this and then connect it to the web UI so when you start the web UI everything is blank and if I go to that now Just Adjust this so you can see and mine is under 192. and it's on Port 8000 so this is the the web UI for the NS panel manager um so here we can see a panel that we've got on my desk and maybe if I switch back to like this um like this are you okay Eric yeah yeah I'm good I just left you in the in the background sorry I don't know I'm great I can't think of a better Friday night I know right then uh struggling through this um yeah so the first thing that we do is to flash the panel and with that flash then it will start an access point and I will go into that in a second um but by default you have an empty um an empty web UI so there's there's nothing actually in it um um do you want to say anything about the the web UI um Tim well I hope I don't have to oh yeah I mean I've made an effort to make it self-explanatory but I might have failed I don't know about that since you're the the only user that's been using it other than me and Eric yeah so the the concept of it is to keep it simple um so here by default you'd have nothing so I've got the panel that's on my desk here and along the top there we've got the NS panels so that's the current view that we're in so we can see any panels that we've currently added here we've got one that's in my office you've then got the option for rooms the ability to upload new firmware's and TFT files and then you've got some settings so I guess what we'll do is actually power this one up and um and actually add it in does that sound like a plan is this the part that you're worried about Tim well not really it's the part where you start flashing the uh TFT file that's the part I had problems with I'm sure it'll uh I'm sure it'll be fine yeah I have more panels to try out down now so I can try and find the root of the problem um right so let's reassemble the panel how's everybody doing it didn't go bang yeah so that's a good sign um one thing that I have found so this is a bit off topic from the NS panel so sonoff's other switch the TX ultimate um this one the internal bits here where the screws are plastic and if you turn them like and after you've you know took it on and off a bit of doing flashing the plastic comes out so the screws just break um yeah no if you were interested in that um yeah I really like this as a as a project um obviously if you flashed it with the ESP home uh tasmota anything like that you can manage it from the web kind of with the SP and tasmota but it's not the same management that you get with the web UI here um you're not dependent on ESP updates or task motor updates or anything like that it's kind of its own its own thing um how do you plan on rolling out the updates for this term and also can I just say my preparation to get this done early is um I've put the panel so this is one I've sewn off some little stance that you can buy and I've put it on sideways oh if that's in the right one that's gonna be interesting yeah I mean like why why doesn't it fit it's like the pins are the wrong way or is this not not the right one for this is this the one for um the this thing the TX I think it is ah yeah yeah oh this is the one that the NS panel should be on right I tell you what we'll do instead for the sake of uh time because I mean you don't need to watch me unscrew this and screw another one in there so here's one I I did earlier so this is the one that's currently in my web UI and we'll come back to so this one is currently running um the UI and interface and we'll get on to that in just a second um we should still be able to log in to the IP address of it and show the web UI of the panel itself yeah just going through the iprs um for this one you mean you have the one you already have set up oh yeah I'm just gonna I'm get what I'm gonna do is take this one off and put this one on the stand ah nice plan yeah but I was just gonna say that like if if all fails I'll just pop this one back on um basically foreign off the good working one and we'll put this one on so this panel previously was running um the NS panel blueprint which is why we've got the the same TFT file because that hasn't updated what's updated is the underlying firmware um so what it should be doing now is it should be trying to create an access point and I was going to say um here's my next failure I don't have my phone here with me let me just grab a device that we can use I was just about to say switch your your Wi-Fi but yeah it switched the whole wide I'm not a good idea yeah I mean with him sometimes yeah let me just disconnect from the Wi-Fi to test it yeah just trying to debug things in there it just disappears in the middle of a call oh yeah so I have a tablet that should do the trick um it's got low battery so I'll try and do it quickly mm-hmm [Music] I I did warn you both before we started that it was going to be junky that's why I did the video that's why I did the video first yeah I'm glad to be along for the ride okay um is this gonna be all right so in the Wi-Fi here we can see we've got the NS panel here so we Flash the firmware onto that and now it's broadcasting its access point so we're going to select that and then it will ask us for a password for the NS panel manager which I believe is just password yeah should it be password yeah lowercase lowercase password so we're then connected to NS panel and that little beep was to say I think it's connected but it has no internet access so what we then need to do is open up a browser and we go to the default address of 192 .16 a uh 0.1 or was it dot 1.1 what was the default one Tim it's a 192.168.1.1 so once we do that we get the UI for the NS panel manager so basically what we're going to do here is we're just going to tell the panel um what its Wi-Fi address is and I'll do the other bits after that so you should then be able to see it on the screen so all I'm going to enter here is the SSID and password so kind of like anything you do with tasmo to or ASP home um just just connecting the ESP to your Wi-Fi I think you will need to enter all the details for to save if I'm not mistaken uh yes okay [Music] I feel like I'm racing against the uh the battery life with this too hahaha if it wasn't hard enough already um do you need to put the mqtt with this as well yeah I believe so he wants he wants all the details yeah I think it will say if it requires it when you try to save it okay okay so I'm just entering all the details here and then we shall we shall be able to see it on the screen because I'll be able to actually see it on the network right last one now is nope that's done so rented the Wi-Fi information mqtt information and then you've got the option here for the NS panel TFT upload so this latest version or there's the Legacy version how come you have both of them on that Tim because if you have a player a panel that is too old it won't support a newer protocol that's is that it's not seen that in other projects too too old as in if it's like brand new out of a box that you've had for ages I don't know I've not seen a panel with the two old okay version so I've I've tested the protocol because the old protocol still works with the new panel so it works but yeah so with that with the um with the NS panels there's actually been a couple of different models I did have them somewhere um so they all kind of look the same but they're they look the same but they're not so some of the buttons are diff uh it's the white ones that are the newer ones so like the one that I have here the buttons are actually more clicky and the the the mountain um plate is also a little bit different um but yeah internally and everything they're all the same it's just there's some very small changes to them um oh no that's the panel died I got carried away talking about [Music] um no we're good we're good um so I'm gonna click save uh before before anything else yeah do that let's see oh the one thing that I actually forgot to enter was the the manager address so I will briefly explain what that is after I've typed it in hurry hurry yeah hurry hurry hurry go go save so I press save the panel restarted and full enough this actually happened um this actually happened when I did my very first one so that blue screen was the NS panel manager and this then is still I think the NS panel manager but it's like it skipped the it skipped that screen where it doesn't know what to do I don't know why it does that is but it's nothing to do with this um with this project but that means it should hopefully now have Wi-Fi and before I do anything else just like magic if you saw my other video um you'll heard me saying that like it just automagically connects because it genuinely really does so all I did is enter the the kind of host address and everything and then yeah like magic um appears I don't know how how's the best way if I zoom out a bit does that make it a bit easier to the bar um yeah so there's no smoke so just like magic the second one appeared so the one that's offline is obviously the one that I pulled off and the online one is the new one that we've just done make sense yep that's magic yeah so it just appears so the problem that we have now is the panel um doesn't have the right UI like we can't do anything with this because it's using whatever the old TFT file was so in theory what we should now be able to do now that we have web control over it is we should be able to push the new trt file to it and just start controlling it so once you get it into the web UI this is when you this is when the magic happens really because you've got all this control over it um if we click the IP address here this will take us into the settings that I was just filling in on that tablet you should do when it loads yeah so this is this is when I connected to the access point and this is what I was filling in on that device so you can set a friendly name for the panel um you can set the manager address and the manager address is the uh is where you're running that Docker container so where your web UI is running and also the port um you've got your Wi-Fi information and then you've got your mqtt broker so this again could be wherever you're hosting it I've entered one of the ones that's on my test home assistant ones um and then also the the TFT upload so everything that I was doing on the tablet these are the settings that you can see here and it's this one that I believe is the the all-important one because this is what tells your panel um where it's home is basically what are you uh what do you say to that Eric and Tim oh yeah it basically tells you what the address to connect to and try and pull firmware updates and all that stuff it also downloads its config once it starts so yeah if that's wrong nothing's gonna work it's just gonna stay on the first page if it has the TFT update applied it's just gonna say registering to NS panel manager I'm just stuck if for whatever reason there was an issue with the panel connecting to the Wi-Fi does it just fall back um where you can connect to the panel again itself I have I haven't had that problem no I'm not currently but it's something I'll plan to do like if it failed 10 times in a row yeah he's gonna open an access point or something it's not in currently but yeah yeah it's reasonable to expect that yeah so currently that's not a thing in this early build you have to reflash it okay I like how you told me that after I um after you stretched through it after I stressed through it on the tablet racing against the uh the battery life seem to have done a good work yeah I mean we got there so yeah so obviously we just ran through the whole flashing part of it um the docker side of it if you're familiar with Docker then it really is just a simple case of running the image and it will do all of the magic and legwork for you and then you can just connect to the UI there's not a ton well I say there's not a ton is there many configuration changes that you could make to The Container or not is there anything you'd want to do well I think there currently is an option to change the port it's running on but I think that's about it okay just in case you happen to be running something on 48 000 yeah exactly and that's why there's also an option in the panel to change the port yeah um so a question from Mike's can we actually use this yet so currently Mike um is still in a very early State and uh the guys are going to be working on it for a little while longer and hopefully towards the end of summer um it'll be available and Tim's also there in the chat okay so where was I with my train of thought um yeah so now that we have this panel in here the problem that we have is the the actual uh display still isn't right so I believe we can just go ahead and do GUI update Tim I don't need to upload anything now this is the part I had problems with with the new panels but I have a couple more new panels so I can try out and figure that out with but it should work if I I missed it but did you choose the DFT file no so previously when I did this it um with the new Docker container it knows what the trt file is without you manually uploading it it should be using whatever the latest one is um so yeah because because I haven't changed it or don't have a newer one I just have the um kind of default one um or whatever the latest one that you sent me was as well though where's that little page gone um I'm I'm I'm [Music] so if I turn this on and let's just spin it around okay so you're not gonna see the button now are you so move it to here so the UI is currently wrong and what we're going to go ahead and do now is press the GUI update for this specific panel come on yeah here we go it should start trying to Flash yeah hopefully it works ah it seems like it works or maybe not oh no it did start and then it stopped the panel's gone offline now yeah maybe give it another try this is the part that's been really tricky with this product because the the output protocol isn't really documented anywhere not really there's like some guides from next John and then you can look into how is be home sort of interpreted that guide but it's yeah it's been a lot of trial and error yeah so obviously um this project is early on development um but this is this is the kind of this is the process that you actually run through and this is the process that I've run through with two of the other panels I have had a problem with one of them um but the idea is you should be able to do the GUI update there and it should work um I'll try and reboot this and then I'll also try and fully power cycle it because um just in case it is anything that's like a Remnant from the this previous one let's give it a go I missed it then did it even um flash up to do the board how about if we try and pass it a TFT file or should I just power cycle it oh there's no way really to upload a TFT and this is the only way it will have to have a TFT file uploaded to the docker container but I'm guessing you have since you have a panel since previously yeah oh so when it does start like it's it it's failed but yeah when it when it does start and it does start running you'll see the transfer appear on the screen here and you'll also see it um actually appear on um whether whether is it where the status is um and you'll see the actual progression of it um this is actually one of the things I had to go wrong with the other one Tim so um when I sent you that screenshot where it goes sideways with that error yeah it should just be able to do a GUI update again I think that orientation is like the intended orientation for that display so if it goes back to default it goes to the orientation but I'm not sure okay so we can see here now it is trying to update so on here on the GUI we've got this um bar for updating GUI and then on the front there you can see it is trying to write so it's writing very slowly we're on one percent yeah this takes a good while if you're doing the first time this is all the later time to do it it's gonna do a partial update and that goes a lot quicker yeah it's also a baud rate option in the the panel itself you can change yeah so with this as well um because I'm flashing from a previous um display so we're going from the NS panel Home assistant blueprint over to this one in my testing as well like you've just said there where it's partially got it already um it's it's you know it's I'd say a couple of seconds to flash for us this probably will be a couple of minutes it's up to four percent now so what we might do while we wait is just uh unscrew this one and I'll put the other panel um I'll put the other panel back on so that we have two panels I can't believe I am I actually took this off as well so I took this off and I put the wrong one back on yeah does anyone have any questions for Eric or Tim while I do this not a thing I think the only time where it uh you have to reload the entire file is when we add images to the TFT file like like if you do a big change add a page or something if we just change some IDs or add a button I think it's just the partial thing are you still here Alex and Vic are you hanging about in the chat is there any anybody that's watched the video the overview video that has um a specific question also that this actual back end is actually neither the TX ultimate or the um NS panel It's actually an NS panel Pro so yeah Pro so the pro has no buttons and the pro runs Android so apparently a totally different panel that I pulled out the drawer so I think this one is the right one now no this one is not the right one either this one is the this one is this this is the the TX so it's a T5 backplate how we can get a new one is if we just take the new one straight out of the box that's a better idea at least I'll have the right one so here's one that I made earlier so how are we doing in stream wise sorry stream I've been um I've been ignoring you how we doing on the old likes we've got some Lakes for up to 29 likes and we can glue go watch it now 27 right if we get up to if we get up to 40 likes then we will uh I you guys there uh I'll uh I'll give away some of these brand new NS panels because we have a few of them so if you're interested in getting yourself an NS panel um let me know which color you'd like the gray one or the white one we can uh give it away so get those likes up um how I'll do this is I'll just pick one of you from the chat and then um after the CH after the chat um yeah we'll uh we'll exchange some details and whatever all right so this is what I want so while we're kind of on the topic of this panel so that panel is still updating um you can't see it um it's up to 17 um currently this is working with the NS panel the EU version so the square one the other one is the US version which is the rectangular version um Eric or Tim do you want to go through the state of play with the um the US version I'll leave that to Eric I think uh we have some us version panels on the way so we can adapt the the GUI to that one as well so the plan is to yeah make sure that we support those panels as well so as soon as they arrive I will start doing the graphics file that format how long does that earn does that take you during the conversion or is it something you've not had to do before uh I haven't done it uh we'll see I hope hopefully I can just um or take my file and change the orientation and then I probably will have to change some pictures but not like recreating all the pages and all the buttons and so on but I'm not sure actually if you can do that maybe I have to just make a new project and kind of copy paste it yeah do you do that or with the next gen editor is that what you use yeah exactly yeah okay basically the way it's working it's all the the next gen itself can have some code on it but I think we've stripped out almost all the code from the next tune chip itself and all it does is just pass data through to the ESP chip and ESP chip handles everything from updating the display with new values and all of that so on the on the GUI now so because this is its first time flash it's up to 25 on there and I don't want to move it in case I knock it but it's still flashing so it also shows that same um that same time probably by the time it's finished do I actually have these screws in oh uh here's something that I haven't um run into because I've not done it like this before where they have the same names is there a problem if two panels have the same name or is there like an underlying idea that differentiates them no it shouldn't be a problem I I think all the logic goes by the MAC address of the panel yeah so there shouldn't be a problem and the MAC address is registered with the panel when it registers to the manager itself there should also not be problems we had problems previously but I also don't think it's still a problem to run multiple managers if you want to have like a test set up and a live setup I very nearly just um put the new panel on here then we'd have been looking at the sonoff UI right here's Here's the the black the gray one that we uh did earlier do you use these as well um Eric and Tim these um little mounts shown off mounts yes I have one actually so I have that in one room uh other than that I have all installed the walls yeah no I have I have one lying without the back plate without the relays I just just lying on my desk that's how I do it but it's uh it would be nice to get one of those yeah so I just missed it then but um so basically what's happening now is this one's updating to get this UI and when that completes it will look something like this um on Startup you get that really nice uh NS panel manager screen um and then this is what the UI looks like um you've been working on this UI for quite a long time now um yeah how long would you say it was Eric I think I mean I I started this um design thing yeah and the thinking when the NS panel came out and I started trying to do my my own version with the ESP home so it's been a couple of different text but in I would say that I've kept kind of the original idea that I that I got up when I started so I've kind of taken all my years of trying different buttons and thinking about how to best control the whole like not for just for me but for like a normal person that is not interested in home automation just a family member or a guest so that's that's what I've had in mind when I when I when I did it okay um interestingly do you know how I said about like what happens if the two panels have the same name um yeah it seems like there is a problem yeah so this isn't something that I've done before so here we go guys some live um some live troubleshooting so what it looks like it's doing is it looks like uh can you see like one is going on and then the other one's going off yeah I actually seen that once when I had I had two installations of Docker I'm uh I accidentally chose the same name I saw that as well I went from offline to online but I think just change the name and it should be fine yeah we'll have to look into that yeah is it gonna [Music] I think you can access it actually that's what I did uh just changed the iPad go back and just press the the IP that is what I've done I think I've just opened this oh sorry yeah yeah I think it's I'm a bit yeah I end on the Stream uh original panel I like all that [Music] yeah so I've not done this yet where it's um so I've renamed it and it's rebooting there we go and that looks like it's working now because it's um got the gray so maybe there is an issue currently if you have two panels that have the same name yeah it seems like it unfortunately you shouldn't have affected the update though no the update's carried on like throughout that which is good so if I go to this one now so now you'll see that the well it looks the same as it did before except these lights are now on um I'll show you in the UI what that the web UI weather looks like but here so the the UI for the panel is broken down into kind of four sections so you've got the ceiling lights the table lights and then you've got a brightness slider and a color temperature slider um Tim I don't know if you want to talk about how the firmware works because I said this to you when we had a call the other day of like the first thing that I noticed about using this firmware and this setup is how much more responsive and snappy the NS panel is because if you've ever used an NS panel before sewn off firmware can be a bit sluggish and that's the same for some of the other um projects and things that I've tested out but this one actually is just like really quick and it makes it feel like it's a different touch screen even though it's not but it's just because the actual software's better well I I think Eric was running his be home based you didn't use any blueprint or anything but you just used raw ESP home with mqtt and I believe one of the issues you run into was the usage of RAM and the limitations of mqtt so when you're trying to change loads of Lights like you're doing when you're pressing the table lights or the ceiling lights button it tries to send so you have if you go into all lights and you have 30 lights added it's going to try and send 30 different mqtd messages the way this firmware is organized it's just gonna send one and it's gonna say I wanna set all these lights to this brightness level or this color temperature or whatever it might be so that's one of the ways one well one of the explanations where it's quite Snappy it's also been purposely built from the ground up to be responsive is one of the design decisions we made when we started this yeah and it's it's definitely worked so on this on the UI what was that sorry I'm glad that you feel it snappy oh yeah irresponsive yeah so a questionnaire on uh does the NS panel manager is it a home assistant add-on or as a container So currently it is just a standalone Docker container but hopefully Tim you'll be able to get it working as a container in as a add-on sorry for home assistant yeah I had to look at making a home assistant add-on and it didn't look too hard because basically the home decision add-on is just a container in the background yeah with a little configuration to it so we should be able to make that work yeah cool I did kind of show roughly what that might look like as well um yeah I saw that it was cool yeah so um as a home assistant OS user you'll be able to hopefully just go into add-ons um select like the NS panel manager and just click install and then it will do the rest for you currently um without that you'll have to spin up Docker if you're not already running it anywhere and you'll just have to set up the docker container in Docker and that will run your web UI um back to the UI then so you've got the four sections um you see it in lights table lights a brightness slider and um like a color color temperature wheel um along the bottom you've got the current room um that it's currently in so this one by default is set to my office and then just next to it you can see the the group or the Target that your lights are currently set to So currently it's set to the lights in this room but if we click that it will change to all lights and click it again it'll go back to the room lights there's little arrows here that you can use to cycle between the different rooms on this current one I have here I've only got the two rooms so I've got a living room um or my office the um individual options there they act as groups um is there anything else you'd say about that Eric what was your reasoning for using the groups I think I wanted to or sorry the groups the the room or oh so how you've got like table lights and ceiling lights yeah I think my my thought was like these are supposed to to replace our old wall switches and with the old wall switches we control ceiling lights so I wanted the user to be able to do exactly that but also be able to control the rest of the lights in a in a house and I I mean at least here in Sweden we have a lot of table lights so it's for for me it was um yeah it was natural to divide it into table lights and ceiling lights and normally I think a lot of people they maybe maybe not they're not using the ceiling lights that often just yeah they're working or like an accent or extra lights exactly so I just wanted the user to have an easy way of controlling all the lights in the current room and not if we have a if we didn't do that dividing between them you would always turn on the ceiling lights and all the table lights at the same time so makes sense and also I I think the one one thing to add as well is if there there are lights on and you touch the slider there lights that will be affected is only the lights that are currently on so we won't turn on lights that are off in that scenario it kind of depends on where you're at what happens when you touch the display okay that's quite cool so if you if you have three table lights now when you turn one off and then you touch the brightness you will only affect the two that are on keep the state of the other light that's off still being the same so when you turn it on uh it will turn onto the same color temperature yeah yeah that's that's cool I didn't actually know it did that so yeah that's uh a nice a nice feature to have so with how I've got this set up now with my office one I think I have um oh I can click it kind of so I can you can um you can click the the light yeah click the room sorry and it will show you all the the lights that you have um listed in that room so I've got my key light which is on here I've got the cube which I think might be this one here maybe um and then I've got the Glide which is a light on the wall so I could individually turn these on and off um if I wanted to control like say just that light by itself I could click that light and then this particular light's got a brightness slider on it so I could control that um the same with the the key light here this key light has it's been set up to have color temperature and brightness so I could adjust those sliders there and wherever you drag and stop it will um change too I won't play with this one too much [Music] um then on the top as well you'll notice that you have all of these little arrows and these little arrows are kind of persistent throughout the the UI um and they can be used to navigate between rooms or um sets of controls so along the top here we can control the different room that it's in if we press the one in the far left it'll take us back to the main page um and then down on the bottom here that same little arrow you'll also see that there so this one is to change the room and this one is again to change the light selection so you can either have it as all the lights in that specific room or all of the lights everywhere is that kind of like a good explanation for it Iraq yeah I think so I'm just thinking about [Music] um yeah and you can you can select you can press and hold to yeah exactly there's lots of different modes for it like if it's old if all the lights are turned off it's gonna turn on all the lights but if they are locked it's just gonna turn on that group of Lights And so there's lots of different ways you can manage them but we I think we've found a good solution as to what you want to do in different situations yeah um yeah I think yeah yeah maybe I missed a couple of things that you said there but one thing that I experienced a lot is I mean you have the lights turned on that that you want to have turned on but the thing that you want to change is maybe the the color settings the the Kelvin that's just super easy to change that and you can do that in your entire house as well if you switch to all lights because normally I me at least I want all the lights to be matching you know the same yeah kind of yeah if I'm home alone at least but then there might be another family member in another room and then they want their Kelvin in another way so I want them to be able to change that in an easy way without affecting everything else yeah um if you're if you're uh joining now I've seen a few people have just joined now um then currently the people that you can hear are Eric and Tim and they're the guys that have been developing the NS panel manager if you want to check out um how Eric was just talking and about the color temperature management um Eric's done a video on this as well and you can find a link to his channel in the description and he runs through that whole um all of this group in and changing the colors one nice thing that I do like um which we spoke about the other day Tim as well and I think you also mentioned it in your video Eric was how you could go into the how you can go into the panel and you can it's in the settings I think oh can can I leave this page while it's updated yeah you should be able to it's just running in the background so as long as the container is up and running is Gonna Keep On chugging yeah yeah okay that's something else I haven't tried doing yet so I didn't wanna break it on 92 but yeah Eric updated all his panels at the same time right yeah yeah absolutely every time we're super good yeah so reversing the color temperature slider um one thing that I did notice earlier um Tim with the UI was when you look at that capitalization when you're in here and you okay it's not doing it now it could be a brat it could be a browser specific thing but like um when I was changing the modes here this was just like non-stop flicking on and off I can't see a lot here is but yeah so like on this box um I think you still have the camera pulling at the desk so I don't know what this box is I forgot to do it ah I I went into the settings and I forgot sorry yeah um so when you're changing the the button mode yeah in the settings um how it does this like expands to give you the information about it um it might just be a browser specific thing but when I was playing yeah it might be when you get when you really get on to the if you put it on just the right pixel it's kind of flicker yeah might be oh so this one is now nearly done we're on 98 with this so when that completes it should reboot um and yeah we should then start being able to control and add things to her um I think I'll wait just for that one to finish um and then I'll show off how you like oh it's literally just finished hooray so hopefully now it comes back to life so this one's just finished cooking and there we go it is now flashed with ls panel manager so if you're if you're just tuning in now um hey Martin um yeah the currently the US panel isn't supported but uh Eric is waiting to get some get a hold of some of the US versions and then he's gonna start working on that um yeah if you're just jumping in now right at the beginning I say right at the beginning but Midway through the stream we started flashing this thing and yeah it's now running the firmware and we've got the uh the UI so these two are now identical because there's no change to them it's just using the default settings um which happened to be my office so if I jump back over to the web and I'll put this maybe like here maybe there so you can see the panel so after all that the first thing you do is obviously you set up your your Docker container for your web UI you flash your panel you load you update the the TFT file so that you've got this nice display once you've done all of that the panel is now controllable and we can start messing around with it within the the web UI so this new one that we've just done is this NS panel NSP amp panel so if you wanted to rename that here we could uh don't click there we click the can you can you notice somewhere else you do that I know you can do it on the IP can you do it somewhere else yeah no it's currently just on the uh web server right so if you want to rename the device you can click the IP address which will give you the device specific settings and we can change the friendly name yes so if I turn my Capital locks off now and I'll call it white panel and Save then that panel should reboot and we get the NS panel um screen and there we go it's back to life they reboot really quickly as well that's one thing that I am I've quite liked about them like when you turn them off and back on yeah this should be quick um what I just now I'm starting to work on is like a library loading of config so it doesn't have to reboot so if you change your light or something it's just gonna update without a reboot hopefully but just as I started working on that I managed to break the NS power yeah I haven't been able to do any work for about yeah a week and a half yeah if uh if we get to 40 likes as well guys I'll uh I'll be giving away some of these NS panels so if you're interested in a white one or a gray one then let me know which one you want and drop a like um okay so yeah so now we've got this added um we can start messing around with it and changing it so it's set to my um my room which is my office so let's just create a brand new room for this one so let's say now we're putting this white one in the kitchen I don't know if I have Kitchen on this one no I don't so let's add a new room I'll call it kitchen it's hard to remember what I've been doing because I've been playing around with a bunch of these always nice to hear yeah so I haven't managed to break it yet other than the stuff you've told us other than the stuff that I've said um other than the stuff that I said I don't think I've had many um issues um but that's nice to hear yeah I had one where it restarted a couple of times but it's been it's been fine um if you are watching this is a very early build and you can see like well I don't know if you think so but I personally think so like I think it's amazing even in its current state now so it's just really exciting to see where it goes from here um a couple of people did ask about um where and when they can get a hold of this so Tim and Eric are currently developing this and they kind of gave me an early access to it just to have a play around with it and see what I think but the plan is to release it um it would be publicly accessible towards the end of the summer but you guys are going to be launching a Kickstarter to help with uh the development funds and actually purchasing more panels to do testing on do you want to say a bit about that Iraq yeah I was just writing to Tim and asked like should we just launch the kickstarter because we have we've had this pre-launch page for one to two weeks they said they said say that you should have that and we've had that and we've done some promoting about it so I'm actually trying to launch the project right now uh we're yeah we think Kickstarter is a fun thing we want to see how big the interest could be in a thing like this and it's not a big one but we would like to buy it a bunch of panels to test this in a bigger setting and also bring some food to the table to Tim is doing a lot of hard work on this list [Laughter] so I just pressed launch I didn't read the the agreements but I pressed launched so now it's up there yeah so yeah check that out later so yeah so some things to read the link to the kickstarter is in the description below so if you're interested in this if you like what you've seen so far and you want to help these guys um you know fund the project and help get some more work done on it then feel free to to contribute to it um it's worth noting that although this is a Kickstarter it's not something that you do have to become a backer for um it's not like you're if you don't back it you don't get access to it it is going to be publicly accessible and open source but to help with this to help to help them do more testing to get more panels and help to help feed Tim um yeah thank you yeah if you've uh if you've liked it I need some some beer as well yeah no but uh yeah it's it's 30 days and I think we've said that uh we hope hopefully in in 30 days we have uh I think that we can launch we think it's done by that time yeah and as I was saying like look how much you can do already um it's it's amazing for us a few people have asked if it will work with this panel which is the NS panel Pro and unfortunately it doesn't work with this but the reason for that is because this thing doesn't have an esp32 chip inside of it this is this runs a variant of Android so although this one is very nice looking um it doesn't work on this um we actually we I don't know if you want to say anything about that team but we we just talked briefly on it I mean nothing is impossible no we we've been talking well briefly about it now there might be a possibility to create a web page that looks like the NS panel and then behaves in the same way so even if you have a pro version you can still use the same interface but it's not something that is currently planned there are more high priority tasks to do everything is just about time and how much time you can put into it but yeah with the pro do you see that being a real thing because like um I was previously using these with um just loading my home assistant dashboard I just created a straight up dashboard for the panel and I could use that to do everything do you see there being a big use case where people would use the pro to to manage the pros well I don't know but I mean we're going to open up the GitHub page and hopefully people can submit enhancements and well requests on what they want to have and we that way we can kind of gauge the interest and see what kind of response it gets I think the the what I say is the good thing is with this is the if you would like to have a standardized way of controlling your home where all the panels looks the same and you can do the same thing from every room then I guess it could be an interest of using the pro as well just to get that standardized interface and an easy way to set all the panels up with the rooms and the curve the lights that are in the room with the the API to home assistant or openhab for example because otherwise I guess you need to create that page for each of the panels and do all that work by yourself cool um so I think the next thing for me to kind of do then is so we've got this white panel now um and guess what I'd want to do is start adding some devices to it I think we're talking about creating a new room okay to drop the Discord hello hello it was uh it had been a while before I had some technical issues um I don't think I can hear you through yeah but I think you're still in the Stream because I can see the bar moving you can hear me without problems okay cool yeah um hey we have the first background wow that's cool thanks that's uh very nice of you Thanks Martin um yeah so annoyingly I've um I can't hear you guys through this chord anymore so I'm actually hearing you through the stream so there's a bit of a delay now well I don't I don't know why it's um why why bad things happen Okay so what I'm going to do now is I'm just going to run through how you'd go about so we've got the the panel set up um we can start adding things to it I'm gonna quickly run through what what you can do in terms of Home assistant with adding things it's really annoying I can hear my invoice but uh uh I'll add a few things with home assistant and then if you've got any questions we'll kind of go from there it was going so well Alex and the stream's breaking down now we've hit that two hour mark it's been two hours already it has time flies yeah still a few more things to go through if people are interested yeah there's like rooms and item management and scenes you've got a version that has scenes working for home assistant yeah so I'm gonna run through adding a few home assistant devices and then if you guys got any questions then for the developers or anything about the projects or anything you want to see specifically then we'll do that so with this white panel now the first things that we can do is we can modify what the buttons do um so you can have it in direct mode or you can have it in detached mode and all that does is it basically tells it whether the button can control the relay or if you want to decouple it and the reason that might be useful is you might want to have a physical button tied to a satellite or um a set device maybe when devices become a thing but you can physically use that button then to do that if we come into the rooms uh so with the rooms you've got the room list so the new room that we created was the kitchen and we can see that the current panels that are assigned to Mark's office is the original panel and the white panel so in here um this is where we come to actually start adding lights so obviously with the kitchen we might want to have some kitchen lights so if we go to add light um one thing that I didn't show is in the settings is where you actually set up your home assistant so the reason this knows what light to have in home assistant is because it's bound to the home assistant API and it uses the authorization token um to just get that access so it can query any light you have in your light domain so back in roomstand if we head into kitchen we could say add light and there's a couple of different filters you can have you've got all you can have home assistant lights you can have open Hub and then you've got manual um obviously as we only have home assistant we can only select ones that I have in open system open system I just create a new system um sounds nice fully open um oh I think it's um I think it's fixed now can you speak to him I think discord's working again hello Mark yeah and are you speaking Eric can you speak yeah I'm speaking that bit I don't have to listen to myself oh wonderful it's fixed yeah there we go um so so this was this was another bug that I've um found so I can't scroll this list yeah I know that's fixed in my development version oh okay cool there we go have you tried the search function it's amazing so if I wanted to search for triangle yeah uh or cube Maybe lots of my lights are named after shapes yeah there we go yeah so one thing um with this early version currently only lights are supported uh but in time um more devices will be added and there'll be new UI options for those kinds of things [Music] um yeah because so what I found instantly with doing this was lots of my lights that I use are all physical um switches so the majority of my lights are all in the switch domain so it'd be like switched okay whatever so that's where the majority of mine are so let's just pretend this um what should we go with maybe one you can see that I haven't added the left Cube maybe so let's try that cute search again Cube um so my hypercube and we'll say that this one's a ceiling light you can set a name for the light here and this Knight this name doesn't have to be what it is in home assistant this is just a friendly name that you want to represent on the panel so if I just call this left Cube so I actually remember what it is um when you add the device you first have to set the type so whether you want it to be a ceiling light or a table light and depending on the option you choose will dependent will determine what part of the UI it comes into so you have if you remember the four different sections you have your ceiling lights and table lights so if I set this one to be a table light for the kitchen um you can then set the control mode and you have the options of it being dimmable or switch so if you have the ability to dim that then you'd set that and if you can only switch it on and off without being able to adjust it then you'd select switch so with this Cube I think it should be dimmable um the other capabilities it has is color temperature and also RGB and they should give you the color temperature slider and also the um your little color wheel slider once we click add this is the part that I that I really like um is this little section down here I don't know what I don't actually know what you call this part Tim but it's like the the visualizer for the lights yeah and it's a way that you can rearrange them so you can remove and add lights as you like per default when you add a new light it's good just gonna pop in the first free slot basically yeah so this is it's not going to allow you to add the same light twice so that's why if you just have one light and they're all populated you press an empty slot it's just gonna bring up an empty list yeah so with with um with these here are you going to be able to select these buttons to add them is that plan for those on this um select the buttons yeah if you if you remove the left Cube if you press it on the pictures yeah in this version so I don't have any options here yeah but if you cleared that one if you clear the lift Cube oh yeah left cube is going to show up as an option because it will only let you add ah okay yeah why because the left Cube's already there uh okay so if I add another light then and we'll go with um sync box and I'll call that one I think I did the table like the other one so I'll do ceiling light dimmable color temperature RGB okay so if I clear this then I should now have both of them yeah yeah cool so yeah so with the lights here you can build up a list of lights that you want to appear um in that room and then in this little visual panel here you'll see it start to build up and that's what you're going to see presented in your panel um you can if you've decide you want to change the name or you want to change the properties of it you can just simply click the little edit button there and then you can go through and change those so maybe you forgot to add color temperature or something like that you could go in there and Save um how many one two three four five six is twelve you can have 12 different lights per room is that right well you can have as many light as you want it's just gonna allow you to show 12 on the page so can you have like an infinite number of Lights there's no hard limit in place no ah so what happens when you fill that screen does it go to just a new page no it just doesn't add them anymore okay fair enough so let's add uh left Cube and we'll add the sync box back so in my kitchen I've now got those two lights um and if you were here previously in the Stream you'll have heard Tim say that currently um for those changes to take a fact for it to actually be visualized on the panel you have to reset the panel for it to pick up those changes but he is working on something where when you make those changes they should automatically appear is that right Tim ah just when I'm drinking but yeah that's correct awesome um yeah so I'll switch back to this one now to just show you so here on this panel we've got Mark's office um got the the living room and no kitchen and so the kitchen's not there because I added it after so back in the UI if I restart it and if I just go back to the panels here and I find the white panel and just press reboot then that will start booting and now I should have a new room so Mark's office living room and kitchen and if I select the kitchen we can see we've got those two new lights that we just added there through the web UI so I've got the left Cube and also the sync box um and I should now be able to if I so you can't see this but it's in my hand if I turn the left Cube off then keep here turns off and if I turn it back on it turns on like magic um if we select the left Cube um if you remember those settings that I added added the dimmable so I've got an option there for a slider for being able to control that and then with that particular queue because it also supports color temperature and color wheels you can see you've got the options um for it there so just using those sliders you can slide it up and down was it is it the color one you're thinking of changing the way that that works did you say something about color the other day Tim um no I can't remember it but there is more options to that page if you press the little icon up in the right um going back into the item was that yeah into an RGB item if you press the icon up in the right it's gonna allow you to change more than just the colors gonna load the change oh yeah let's see it's brightness Hue and saturation yeah yeah so yeah you've got all the options available I have some I have a change request on that page but but we will we'll have to discuss that um uh yeah so I I think bright doesn't Kevin should be the one that is seen first and then you can press the color mode and then the saturation and color will appear but that's uh that's that's up for discussion I guess yeah um so no more reboot for each change or to update Yeah so basically when you make those changes in the web UI currently for the change to take effect you have to reboot the set panel um that you've made the changes on um by just pressing one of the different reboot options there's one inside of the panel itself or the one on the main page um can I uh add a thing there I'm not I'm not sure if it's clear but if you rebooted both of them the change it would be on both of them right if you if you reboot both panels yeah so the changes or the things that you did to that room it's it doesn't have to do with that panel it is yes with the room that you yeah you've made so if and all the rooms are on all all the panels so if you rebuild the panel it will be in all of them yeah so yeah so this one this one here now doesn't know what the that room is because this one hasn't Rebooted does that make sense but if you do it it will have that data yeah so if I reboot this panel now it would know that there's a new room that's been created and this will see it so yeah currently this one just has the office uh and living room and if we reboot the original panel that will now pick up the kitchen room and it shows it because it loads too quickly um it shows you when it boots up how many rooms it slowed in so I saw that it had three rooms so now we've got Mark's office living room and kitchen so you'll notice that after leaving them for a few seconds the screen goes off and when the screen does go off when it goes into its sleep mode it will revert to whatever the default rumors for that um panel so these are both set to my office um but obviously with our white one this oops with our white one this is our um our kitchen panel so we wouldn't want that one going to the office because those aren't the lights that we care about so if we select the the particular panel that we want so in our case the white panel we've got this option then for a default room so if we set that to be kitchen and then click save um when our screen goes off then um the panel should be kitchen but that that oh you'll need to reboot as well yeah so that config change also doesn't take effect until a reboot yet um so we would need to reboot it first but now when this comes up it should be set to the kitchen and it is so this one is now the kitchen by default and if we wake this one up this one is my office but yeah do you have anything else to add on that Tim no not really I mean it's just you can create rooms and you can add our devices to them and it's gonna populate on the panels once you reboot it I hope it's self-explanatory yeah I I think so oh I think so I've been using it for a few days and I think it's the way it's laid out it's really nice um the way that you've done the UI is also really nice Eric um and you've spent a long time you know tweaking it and coming up with it um if you're we're getting up to two and a half hours now if you are just joining in it's still so hot in here as well we're uh 30 degrees in here now it's really hot it's 30 degrees and it's 11 o'clock at night um yeah if you if you're jumping in now um we're almost like 45 likes if we get up to 45 likes I'm gonna be giving away some of these NS panels so let me know in the chat do you would you want the the white one or I haven't got a gray one anymore oh I do the white one or the gray one which one which one would you want to use so yeah let's get those likes up and uh we'll give some panels away just just let me know white one or a gray one and then I'll choose somebody um also if you're just tuning in the kickstarter for this was launched um in the Stream and if I hide this foreign there we go so there is a Kickstarter for this um and the purpose of the kickstarter is to just help the developers so I've got both of them here in the chat you can't see them but you can hear them Eric and Tim um and they're working to just make a bit of money uh to help with the development funds for this to help buy new panels and to to help keep Tim Alive by feeding him so yeah as a as a preference David I personally really like the white one um I did mention this right at the beginning as well but the white one came out after the gray one and they made some refinements to it so you probably won't be able to hear it in the thing but the buttons are a lot more clicky on the White Version and the back plate is also slightly different it's supposed to be easier to take off but I don't think it is smart is right you can see about 30 if nerdies online but there's only six people backing um yeah with with the with the whole Kickstarter you don't have to back it in order to get access to it but by backing it you're helping fund the project and you know look at look how cool it is already this is in a very early state so let's get let's get funded and get some work done on it um I think that's probably the main kind of overview I kind of uh if you are interested in seeing um some of the other things I overviewed I did also create an overview video which is linked in the description um Eric also did a run through and that's available on his YouTube channel and that's also down there in the description so feel free to check both of those out and you'll get a better idea of what this Project's going to be and where it's going uh is there anything that I've gone through or mentioned that either you Tim or you Eric would want to expand on a little bit more or any of you guys in the comments is there anything that you'd want to see in a bit more detail something that I can show you now or any questions that you have with the for the developers while they're here well we're currently working on scenes I think we just managed to get scenes online and running uh one part of the scenes so the scenes functionality is going to be kind of split so you're gonna be able to have seems managed by the NS panel manager and you're going to be able to save them on the panels and recall them and all that stuff but you're also going to be able to recall scenes in say home assistant or openhab from the panel if you already have scenes set up other than that I think you've covered everything yeah so scenes the early version of scenes is also um in the version that I have here so I just swap the camera over with um scenes there's an icon in the top left of your panel here and if you select that you'll if if you've added any scenes to your room so on this one there's nothing in the kitchen but I have two available in my office I'm not going to click them now because they changed this um this light that I have here but basically whatever state your lights are currently in in that room um when you select an option and save it it will make the this it will take like a snapshot if you like of how those lights what the state of them currently is and it will save it in that scene and then whenever you recall that scene the lights will go back to that state so let's say for example this Cube behind me if I made it um blue we'll change the temperature or color of it whatever um when I saved it as a scene then it would always revert back to that if that makes sense but yeah um can home assistant change what's on the panels in an automation um currently I I don't think there's much in the home assistant side that you can do with the panel and the interface you can control some parts of the panel by making use of um mqtt so that's the whole mqtt side of things so you can do things currently like you can control the relays you can turn the screen on and off um what else can you do Tim I can't remember without looking on yeah you can control the relay you can uh yeah control the screen and you can also of course get the state of the relays and the state of the screen there's also you can recall scenes and activate scenes as well through mqtt I guess there's there's possibility to to add more things there because I think that the a normal use case or a thing that the user would want I see auto magic daycare asks me to mention the alarm panel idea but for example I've used in my old version I used to when I came home for example I pushed or my my home automation system told the panels to bring up the alarm page for example so I could deactivate the alarm so I think we should to have those kind of things where you bring up a specific page for a specific moment uh maybe a unlock button to unlock the door or something if someone Rings your bell or something there's tons of those things that you create if you had if you have time and the the effort yeah so the there's a question that um I'll be talking about sonoff scenes or home assistant scenes so the scenes that I just ran through then um the scenes that are here these ones are the ones that are created with the panel itself so the panel settings but will you also in the future be able to trigger standard home assistant [Music] um yeah so that's the plan yeah you will be able to have either the scenes controlled by the NS panel manager and then you can add another scene that is already set up in say home assistant yeah there's also plans for adding manual mqtd entities so you don't have to go through home assistant or something if you only have mqtt setup yeah yeah Alex is saying we could have an automation to show what I'm streaming so we could have an automation to show when the stream starts and then yeah you need to offset that by about 40 minutes just to make sure all the uh technical hitches are out the way yeah yeah I think we're right we're talking about that in the kickstarter as well the the the the future uh the things that we're thinking about being able to to add so there's a lot to read there if you want to go through that on the kickstarter page now is that yeah exactly so in my dream uh in in my dream world there would be like also a way for the user to make custom pages to to be able to do that weird thing that only that user does if they're an experienced user but that's the like Maybe last thing that we that we should do but being able to design yeah I think one of the things that makes this different from a lot of the projects that are out there now those ones are either they give you um a template or like a a starting point and then you have to modify the UI yourself or you just take what's already there and then just add your own elements to it but with this one you've got kind of like a solid UI and foundation for all of the things and then you just plug your parts into it but it's not just that you've got this whole um web UI that actually allows you to manipulate and change all of these and you can do it all yeah it's nice I really like it and I'm sure I've said that about 100 times now but other any more questions um can it stream cameras no is that something that you that you'd want to have on a small display with the NS panel Pro this thing can do rtsp streams and it's like a really cool feature to have but it's something that I well me personally anyway I never would use um but that's that's just me like I could see something like that if you're in an apartment or something and you've got that as like your light switch by a door or something then that could be quite cool because they have a microphone as well so they can do like an intercom but I don't I don't think is is there enough power in the ESP to do all of these things and stream a camera feed and this is awesome the esp32 should could probably handle it at a pretty low FPS but the problem is you can't show an image on the display if it's not in the TFT file yes yeah because of the whole house works yeah yeah I mean there are next gen screws that could do video I think but this cannot yeah yeah you'd have to take your whole panel apart and put a brand new screen in it um yeah yeah so you're probably spending a fair bit more money than just to get it to work um what about notifications like I can't remember the Dayton I feel like maybe I did I don't think they're we haven't talked about it but I can see a use for it for sure but again with the limitation with that is because you've got like a small screen the text that you're gonna have is also going to be quite um yeah I think you could you can do I thought about that in in my earlier project because you can do a like a rolling text on the on the next screen so I mean you could bring up a pretty big font and make it like a scroll on the the page so I think you can definitely have a use case for that and it will yeah yeah so Aaron um currently this is what we're looking at today this is just a very early um look at the project um but hopefully it was the end of summer it will be available yeah we we've just I don't know how long have been at this I think three months four months yeah yeah I think so yeah so hopefully more to come yeah a lot more yeah so yeah if you think about that this is like the majority of all the foundation work is all there now is now kind of refining it getting more features in it um and then it'll be like ready for testing but yeah what what features would you guys in the in the Stream like to see that's a good question so one thing that I did speak to you about Tim um and I also noticed in some of your earlier panel designs Eric is the clock having a little clock in the top right corner yeah um I had that I kind of did it because everyone else did it just for the sake of it yeah um I'm not sure if I mean it's it's not a hard thing to add it's not it's not that often that that I see a use case for it personally at least I guess when you think that logically like would you look at your light switch for the time that's uh that's one of the things we've done with this product is look at things logically like yeah yeah it's cool you might want to have a Time on it but why like how are you gonna how when are you gonna look at it for the time uh so we've tried to make the interface clean and usable on how you how we think you want to use it yeah I I probably think we have we have thought less the on the the people on this stream the Nerds we have thought more about like normal people uh yeah to control the lights in that room yeah so they don't want to have a weather page uh that's yeah yeah definitely so one thing I was going to ask you is when this opens up to the public and people are making feature requests and things like that how are you gonna um filter and decide on those things are you guys just gonna decide or are you gonna go with what the community wants or is it just gonna be you're going to do your thing and then if people want to add those things themselves then they can just go ahead and add those things I don't know it's not something we've discussed yet but yeah with this reasonable limits yeah yeah if there's enough people that wants a feature I don't see why we couldn't add it yeah cool um to the benefit of as much people as possible yeah I'll say yeah and uh Alex I uh I left my clock off so that it wouldn't be the wrong way around so yeah usually with this uh camera I usually have it mirrored so that it's like things are readable when they when they turn on and for like when I'm pointing no I said that wrong God damn it Alex you uh messed me up when I show things things are back to front but when I'm pointing and talking about things that the right way around but anyway I can I can see the oh I don't know how to pronounce it but there's someone in the comment section that says that a screensaver with time and weather is nice and I can see that yeah nice heavy big fat clock on the screen saver like in its sleep state yeah exactly but I would be worried about it like burning I don't know if that's a problem with these panels but yeah I mean either um doesn't the default son off firmware keep them on it looked like it I think I think it does I think that you can turn them off but I think the defaults for turn off one is it just is dim like it's really dim and then it will go brighter yeah I think definitely there should be a like a user Choice there uh personally yeah thinking about the electricity bill just want them to be yes yeah definitely but yeah um yeah so we've we've had our 45 likes so if you haven't already just leave a little comment saying like would you want the the gray version or the white version and if we do happen to get to 60 let's go for 60 if we get 60 likes so that could be you know even when the stream's finished then I'll check another one out too so two NS panels go for grabs if you're interested just leave a little comment saying white panel gray panel something like that but there we go is there anything else you guys want to add about the project um is there where's best for people that are interested in the project to follow you other than um the kickstarter page um if they want updates or information on anything that's progressing how can they stay up to date is it the best place is just to Kickstarter for now until the repost public yeah I'd say the kickstarter and Eric's YouTube channel uh cables and coffee and then when the GitHub repo opens up just to subscribe to the repo and uh keep an eye out basically cool yeah so I think that's uh I think that's about it guys yeah it's been a long night it's been nice nice it's fun being on yeah I'm sorry that we couldn't get the uh the video working and then when we did get it working it didn't work but hopefully if uh you tuned in you might have learned something and you might have also got like a nice look at what the project is um and what it's all about if you do have any more questions about it or anything you want to know then all of the links are all in the description already so feel free to check those out um this is going to be a project that I personally use so I'm going to be following the development process of her and I'll probably be creating future videos on how to set a rethinker and when there's new features and what these guys change and hopefully I can get you both back on again um maybe when you go for the actual release and hopefully hopefully we can actually uh yeah have some good audio and good video yeah we'll we'll come better prepared next time yeah I'll try and see if I can get a hold of a webcam as well yeah awesome right then guys is there anybody in the comments that uh in the comments we're live in the Stream is there anybody in the Stream that wants to know anything else before we go anybody clock's optional screensaver optional seems like we were answered every question and we've made some promises there as well yeah that's always there that's always the case yeah yeah uh a practice stream well Vic you know how these streams go they're always chunky and I I said to these guys earlier on in the day I was like oh we'll um we'll do something like um early afternoon and then that came and went and then was it like half an hour before the stream started I messaged you guys about I think it was an hour before like for 40-50 minutes something like that yeah but there we go it wasn't a total train wreck the train crashed but it still ran yeah that's the main thing um Can the panel be placed in a wet room like a bathroom shower that kind of thing uh I I have it in my bathroom but yeah I wouldn't spray water on it can it and should it uh two different things um I think I think probably the the IP class I think it's okay in Sweden at least as long as you don't have it like in the shower it depends on the rules of the country I would say yeah yeah [Music] um hey no worries about coming in late um there is an overview video on both mine and her Channel um maybe we should do it all again yeah just start again I mean I've got like some more panels back there we could uh could do another one um yeah so the panels they're they're not for sale um pre-flashed um but what you can do is you can purchase some of the son off panels um the NS panel not the NS panel Pro and again this links to those in the description and then later on um towards the end of summer this project will be available and you can there'll be some lots of tutorials I imagine on how to set this all up and get it going and be able to set this all up for yourself but yeah yeah right then guys um thank you both very much for taking three hours out of your day to to come and launch this um letting us good luck with the whole Kickstarter um I can see the numbers going up so that's good um Tim you'll be fed soon very nice yeah I won't be able to eat haven't eaten in half a year yeah yeah um but yeah I hope all goes well and I'm looking forward to seeing what you both do and how the project progresses yeah but you said you were going to use this are you good planning on being like a beta tester or well it's more like an alpha right now yeah so I'll be you know to keep you up to date and yeah yeah I'll be doing all the testing yeah gladly very nice of you yeah so I've got a few of these panels now so I've got two two that are now done yeah so I'll probably switch these over to my production environment and start playing with them nice so yeah as it integrates more with home assistant um I imagine I'll be able to do a lot more with it yeah hopefully I know Eric's been running his uh well this project in like the live environment for ball like a month two months and my my roomie likes it it's a normal average yeah so Alex is saying there's no IP rating on Sonos um products so I would not recommend anywhere it's not exactly sealed is it no definitely not mine is quite far away from the shower so yeah so when it starts um corroding all the insides but it'll be fine just scrape it off just scrape it off yeah just some rubbing alcohol should wipe off yeah foreign yeah and don't if you flash the panel like a thousand times it breaks as well might be worth to know yeah so we need a little uh counter on how many times you've uh flashed yeah well the version number you see this 0.0.920 that's actually the number of times I built it with the scripts so it increases one every time I build it so yeah about a thousand flashes and then the Wi-Fi broke for some reason I can still flash it it still runs but as soon as I turn on the Wi-Fi it just reboots so uh yeah don't do a thousand flashes but hopefully when uh the Project's all good to go you'll only have to flash it at once yeah exactly hopefully and then on each release basically and hopefully we can release all of this as one single Docker package see when you download the docker password package you get the firmware and the updated CFT files and everything ready to go yeah and then you'll be able to just push that straight from your web UI yeah that's the plan awesome right then guys we are going to end that here at nearly three hours I hope you if you've if you stuck around like then yeah fair play thank you for sticking around uh if you're just joining at the end then there's an overview video um and just yeah scroll back through just to see the the trials and turbulence of this whole whole thing it worked well but yeah thank you for tuning in guys and thank you Eric and Tim thank you for having us on I will see you all soon I'm gonna switch over to the ending screen now just to to clarify it so it might cut you guys off but um here we go yeah I don't know I you might still be here whenever I change the pages usually it kills your audio or something but yeah there we go right awesome um if you would like to see more streams or something obviously less dranky so we're not spending 40 minutes fixing things then let me know um I I do really enjoy doing these things um it's just the preparation right thank you and good night or good morning wherever you are and catch you in the next one cheers

Channel: Mark Watt Tech

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Length: 170min 26sec (10226 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 16 2023