Is the Sun Unusual?

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I think that's most likely with regards to the Fermi Paradox is a quite boring answer.

Rare sun, rare earth, rare life(at least multi cellular) combined with rare intelligence. Chuck in a few potential filters that could be behind us or in front of us and boom. Lonely universe.

I think we are still living in a fairly young era of the universe. Earth is roughly 4-4.5 billion years, life has existed for roughly 3.7 billion years and for the majority of the time it was single cellular.

So I think it's quite possible that despite the huge number of candidates out there if you add all the facts up it's just too early.

Other factors that might throw a wrench in making at least the more advanced forms of intelligence rare are things like energy abundance. What if coal and oil was unavailable to us or much much harder to get? Maybe we would eventually have progressed technologically but perhaps at a greatly reduced speed. What if certain metals had been unavailable or harder to get?

Perhaps in the end we aren't very special but are in one of those rare, rare, places that enough factors has come together to allow us to develop fairly early?

👍︎︎ 22 👤︎︎ u/J-IP 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2020 🗫︎ replies

The statistically unusual characteristics of the sun, including having a relatively stable luminosity and low variability over geologic time spans, low output of solar flares, an uncommon size considering most stars are red dwarfs, being a single star system, all add up to the sun being a statistical outlier, which may have implications for the fermi paradox. If technological civilisation requires a star as atypical as ours, it might partially explain why the odds for technological civilisations are so low that we only have a sample of 1 so far.

👍︎︎ 11 👤︎︎ u/RealmKnight 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2020 🗫︎ replies

I didn’t find his arguments that persuasive. Even if you take everything into account, 0.5% of stars would still be similar to the sun.

👍︎︎ 4 👤︎︎ u/ken_1596 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2020 🗫︎ replies

I would like to watch it but damn that guy's voice and way he talks is annoying.

"that our home star... ... might be special... ..."

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/Airvh 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2020 🗫︎ replies

I don't think it deserves attention of a futurology channel. It is straightforward scientific question that can be answered already or very soon.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/baryluk 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2020 🗫︎ replies

Is is unusual in that most stars are red dwarves.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/tomkalbfus 📅︎︎ Jul 31 2020 🗫︎ replies
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100 million miles from the earth lies a gigantic spherical mass of 2 billion billion billion tons of hydrogen and helium within the center of that object self-gravity exerts an internal pressure exceeding 25 petty Pascal's and temperatures reach an unimaginable 15 million degrees Kelvin so extreme of these conditions that it causes some 600 million tons worth of protons to fuse together into helium in each and every second of it's now 5 billion year history 8 minutes later less than a billionth of those photons intercept our planet this nourishing light powers our plans biosphere and warms our rocky abode against the empty cold of space the Sun is our great provider without it nothing could survive but for an object is massive as powerful as a star it can just as easily take away life as it can provider eat a violent crow no mass ejection or variable episodes of changing luminosity we are ultimately at the whim of our home star unfortunately the Sun seems to be just about the only constant in our lives its output it's very stable it rarely threatens the earth it has been almost paternity looking after its door to the earth since our inception but is this typical what about other stars the idea that the earth could be unique or rare is certainly familiar but when it comes to our son we've long assumed that it's pretty typical just another grain of sand along the cosmic shore but now we're starting to see clues that something might be different that our home star might be special so joining us today as we explore the rare Sun hypothesis in 1543 the *Polish astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus published his magnum opus de revolutionibus orbeum coalesced 'i'm just before his death his radical idea was that the earth was not at the center of the cosmos but that it was just one of many planets orbiting the Sun it was the first of the great demotions that astronomy would inflict upon our presumed divine status as residing at the center of the universe in 1838 Friedrich Bessel was able to use parallax to measure the distance of the star 61 Cygni showing that it had to be roughly 10 light-years away and thus meaning the object had to be incredibly intrinsically luminous just like our Sun astronomers soon realized that the Sun was just another grain within a field of millet a galaxy of stars in which we reside another demotion in 1917 the American astronomer herba Curtis determined that nove within what was then called the Andromeda nebula were in fact half a million light years away more distant than any of the local starts by far this began the island universe's hypothesis which proposed that Andromeda and the other spiral shaped nebulae were in fact other galaxies once again a place in the universe was demoted with the work of Edwin Hubble observing distant galaxies and years that followed cosmology mature we realized that a very idea of a center was flawed we live on a vast surface beneath which we cannot see these Copernican demotions embody what is now often referred to as the principle of mediocrity and it teaches us that every time that we have thought in history that we were special it the earth the Sun or even a galaxy we were wrong we were humbled by our study of the cosmos and so although we have no evidence for life elsewhere in the universe many have reasoned that we would be making the same mistake as our ancestors one often guided by divine arrogance to assume that life is special to the earth perhaps but if life isn't a distinct chemical phenomena and more like a member of a continuum of possible chemical pathways then we maybe just a snowflake one of trillions of ways in which chemicals can be arranged and behave but nothing intrinsically special about this arrangement this snowflake accept whatever specialness we elect to assign to it and that would be the ultimate humbling the ultimate mediocrity the prevalence of life may still be unclear to us but when it comes to astronomical objects like planets and stars surely here we can have some confidence that the Copernican principle of mediocrity is correct after all isn't this what the revolution was about in the first place this view was perhaps most famously challenged by the so called rare earth hypothesis the idea that conditions here on earth might in fact be incredibly unusual popularized in a classic book rare earth by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee the idea is really simply that conditions here on earth might be both incredibly unusual but also essential for the emergence of life and intelligence we'll leave a detailed discussion of this concept for another day but the idea of a rare earth is attractive because it resolves an apparent paradox posed by the Copernican principle mediocrity tells us that stars planets and even habitable zone rocky worlds should be common so why don't we see any evidence for extraterrestrial civilizations out there in the cosmos the rare earth hypothesis flies in the face of mediocrity it's jarring proposition is that our world is special after all sadly the rare earth hypothesis is not an idea that we can test at least not right now until we have the ability to probe the atmospheres of small rocky planets measure their chemical constituents see their surface environment orbital environment and even internal geology the rare earth hypothesis remains more speculation than a testable scientific theory the small rocky planets just don't emit much light and testing their uniqueness will be a multi-generational effort for Humanity but what about other stars when we compare them to our Sun surely the Copernican principle is safe here surely when we look up at the stars and gaze at those glistening lights we can be safe and the knowledge that they are just like our own Sun well certainly in that last example the answer is no 90% of the stars in the cosmos are so-called main-sequence stars which means that just like the Sun they are neither in the throws of birth nor death but when we look up at the night sky only 40% of the stars that we see are main-sequence giant stars are rare but they're so bright that they get over represented in a way stars are a bit like people in any given room most people talk the normal level but there's always those louder individuals and because of their loudness they get noticed more and giant stars are just that they're just so much brighter than most warf stars that they're more apparent in astronomy we call this mom quiz bias you can remember that next time you're a cocktail party with a loudmouth okay fine but that's just the Stars that we can see if we took an unbiased earth a Shirley the Copernican principle holds surely then sun-like stars would be common well again not really and it's somewhat depends and what you mean by Sun like if by Sun like we just mean stars which are main-sequence then sure the Sun is pretty common and if we use a bit more precision and we ask how common are stars of the same stellar classification as our Sun the answer is quite rare just two point seven percent of main-sequence stars are g-type yellow dwarfs that's calculated using the magic spectral classification index and the Krupa initial mass function smaller k-type orange dwarfs make up nine point four percent of the population an m-type red dwarfs make up a whopping three-quarters of the sample in fact if you were to pick a random main sequence star you're nearly thirty times more likely to pick an M dwarf than Ajit Worf now this isn't just a pointless issue of taxonomical contention and dwarfs are completely different beasts compared to the Sun for instance when you look up at the night sky none of the stars that you can see will be M dwarfs that's because these stars are so intrinsically faint that we just can't see them at least not with the naked eye a good example of that is Proxima Centauri it is a nearest star just 4.2 light-years away and if you're in the southern hemisphere you cannot see it with the naked eye there faintness is due to their lower mass which in turn means that their internal pressures and temperatures simply cannot support the same level of fusion output that our Sun can sustain it's not just their output which is different their internal structure is also quite distinct for example the Sun has to bulk zones a radiative zone surrounding the core and a cooler convective zone near the surface but M dwarfs are so cool that the convection zone consumes the entire star not surprisingly these stark differences mean that M dwarfs have very different activity levels to the Sun for example their surfaces are often covered with far more spots than our Sun even covering the majority of the surface in some cases many are seen to exhibit frequent and powerful flares from their surface and again Proxima Centauri is an excellent example of this and these differences are major concerns to astrobiologists the flaring in particular could be a real showstopper for life with a potential to strip a planet of his atmosphere entirely leaving them exposed to the vacuum of space and on that basis there has been a growing chorus of voices in astronomy arguing that our search for life should prioritize G dwarfs over their m-class brethren in spite of the greater observational challenges that G dwarfs face for many plant detection methods let's leave aside the M dwarfs then and just focus on stars are the same stellar type as the Sun G dwarf stars surely here we can be safe in using the Copernican logic surely now the mediocrity principle persists well certainly at face value the Sun appears fairly ordinary for example about half of all G DeWolf stars live in binary star systems so the fact we live around a single star system isn't that unusual now let's look closer at the finer grain detail of our Sun it's now that our turns to Kepler not the man but the telescope NASA's Kepler mission launched in 2009 was designed to determine how common earth-like planets were around sun-like stars the holy grail of exoplanet hunting but of course like any mission the budget had to be kept as tight as possible costs were horked fiscally controlled the precision of the telescope was designed to meet its goal than on a dime more its launch date was pushed back in January 2006 in the face of budget cuts and just a few months later further budget constraints meant they had to replace the gimbal LED antennae which could point in all directions with a fixed antenna and as a result of that they now had to sacrifice one day per month to point back at the earth and transmit data the Kepler was unquestionably a lean mission to determine the design and on deity of the telescope astronomers had to evaluate the expected signal-to-noise for an earth around another Sun a key source of noise was expected to be the stars themselves but only the Sun had ever been measured at this level of precision before only Hubble would have been capable of doing this first stars other than the Sun at least prior to Kepler so by monitoring the Sun astronomers had determined that it was in fact remarkably quiet of the time scale for planetary transit varying in brightness by just 20 parts per million invoking the Copernican principle it made sense to the capital team to assume that the noise levels of other g dwarf stars would be similar to that of her own Sun but with the signal of an earth passing in front of a Sun being just four times larger than this stellar noise level that meant that the instrument noise components had to be remarkably low nevertheless with a nearly 1 metre aperture in a three-and-a-half-year mission there was a sense of optimism that Kepler would be able to deliver and detect these Earth's and of course the budget Hawks were happy that it didn't cost a single dime more than it had to after its launch it not only offered unprecedented ability to spot planners but also to monitor the behavior of stars especially sun-like stars which is specifically targeted so it would seem like Kepler would really be able to prove the banality of our Sun once and for all confirm the Copernican logic which ultimately guided its design but something kind of surprising happened two years into the mission Ron Gilliland of the Kepler team showed that the sun-like stars that Kepler had been patiently monitoring exhibited an average noise level about 50% higher than the Sun in other words the Sun wasn't typical it was unusually quiet now that paper didn't make the headlines back in 2011 but it was a very well-known and troubling result to those in the capital team why well remember that Kepler was engineered to be just about good enough to detect another earth passing over another son assuming sun-like noise properties but if stars were even a little bit noisier than the Sun and there was really no margin for error Kepler would be overwhelmed by the noise so when Kepler's nominal 3.5 year mission drew to an end the team had zero Earth's detected around sun-like stars and they argued that this wasn't really their fault it was the fault in their stars the Kepler team thought that they could overcome this by extending the mission by four years after all if stars are 1.5 times nosie than expected then in theory all we need to do is collect 1 point 5 squared which is about 2 times more data and so this was successful and when Kepler was extended the community celebrated 4 more years of data Earth's look out here we come but remember that Kepler was never designed with extensions or extra redundancy in mind it was a lean mission so perhaps it wasn't a surprise when in less than one year into that extended mission Kepler suffered a second reaction wheel failure these are the gyros that Kepler uses to orient itself in space it only had one spare so with two failures the original extended mission could not proceed and so when people wonder why we still don't know the frequency of earth-like planets despite flying a mission like Kepler something we've discussed previously on this channel we can either blame the Stars or those damn reaction wheels so we took a little side quest there diving into the history of the Kepler mission but now let's come back to the main topic of this video which is does Gilliland's 2011 study disproves the Copernican principle or at least perhaps put some tension on it is the Sun rare now the Sun is 4.6 billion years old and during that time has been slowly spinning down due to an effect called magnetic breaking but the Stars that Kepler looked at weren't all 4.6 billion years old they were all different ages some older and some younger and perhaps the reason why Gilliland found higher activity levels is simply because his sample was contaminated with too many younger cousins of the Sun star still in their adolescence maybe the Sun is typical after all at least amongst G dwarfs if we could only correct for this effect aging stars is notoriously difficult but recently Tim Reinhard and colleagues found a way around this remember that since the spin of stars slows down with age they decided to take a group of stars with similar masses and sizes to the Sun just like Gilliland but further constrain the sample to only those stars with similar rotation peers to the Sun 25 days in their new paper published just recently in science they yet again find that the Sun is quieter than average a result which has now grabbed the headlines using measurements of sunspot areas dating all the way back to 1878 they showed that the sun's typical activity places it in the lowest third of quiet sun-like stars other studies that focus on the flare activity of ostensibly sun-like stars have found that many of these stars exhibit flares which are hundreds even thousands of times more powerful than the most powerful flares we see on the Sun such as the famous count an event in 1859 analysis of the Kepler data suggests that these super flares occur roughly once every millennium so perhaps in this case the reason why we haven't seen any super flares is simply because our records and don't extend back far enough nevertheless there is an emerging picture that the Sun at least as we see it today appears to be unusually quiet compared to stars of similar type and using indirect evidence the behavior of the Sun in the last century and a half doesn't seem to be any different than that of the preceding 9 thousand years we really do seem to have a quiet home star and so borrowing from the famous rare earth hypothesis we might posit a rare Sun hypothesis now the degree to which and exactly how these lower activity levels might affect the emergence of life and intelligence here on earth remain unclear a subjective active debate and discussion but I think at least in a qualitative sense we can argue that a quieter star is advantageous for the emergence of beings such as ourselves but unlike the rare earth hypothesis this is one which we have a shot to answering in the coming years it's far easier to study stars and exoplanets Copernicus's grand idea in one way remains as true as ever stars planets and galaxies are indeed very common they litter the cosmos but amongst those countless specks of light stars which truly resemble the Sun appear unusual combining the percentages covered in this video we'd estimate that less than half a percent of stars can be considered sun-like even in the local neighborhood and ignoring possible issues with a Galactic habitable zone that we'll have to discuss another day we have to face the stark reality that assuming that we are typical at least when it comes to life is ultimately an act of faith because the data just doesn't show that yet we cannot blindly apply the Copernican principle to any and everything that we come across because clearly in the case of the Sun it is unambiguously not a typical star like the crest of an iceberg peeking out of the waves living on the surface we may be unaware of just how unusual we are compared to the book for the first time in a long time we are beginning to question the Copernican doctrine we are beginning to ponder the unthinkable could our home be special after all guys thank you so much for I want to give a huge shout-out to Tom Widow son Laura Sam Bob and Mark Sloan for generously supporting the cool worlds team now if you have any thoughts or questions about the rest and hypothesis be sure to put them down below in the comment section and of course as always please do like subscribe and share this video it really does help us out so until the next video stay thoughtful and stay curious you
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Published: Wed Jun 17 2020
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