Is Taylor Swift BIGGER Than Michael Jackson & Beyonce?

yep Charlamagne to God hold on sorry [Laughter] we are the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiot in this Schultz was putting me on the uh Anthony bro Oliver Anthony oh okay that was jelly roll no that's Wango Wango that's his name white Django that's what we call waitango Oliver Anthony taking over the country charts country music White soul is back to salute the big uh dwango it's really one of these things that she's trying to rile me up even in the beginning we didn't even get five minutes in the episode before Chase she always turn around why she gets me all riled up and then she gets angry at me that I'm riled up at her how was your week it was great until 20 seconds Taylor started rile me up again did I tell you I met jelly roll I hope so what are you doing what are you doing now tell me come on now what are you doing what are you doing why are you laughing come on what are you doing I just met jelly roll where'd you meet him he was uh he was at the radio station okay yeah yeah he was at the radio station and why are you laughing I just like I knocked on the jelly roll coolant but you laughing I I know the joke but I'm not gonna act like I'm not a joke wait do you work with do you work with jelly roll every day because you keeping it going he right he tries but you keep it good he tries to round me up every single time too nobody y'all rise up every day I come in here peaceful I took a nice deep breath before the podcast right and you round me up and you rap but that's how Taylor makes people feel I tell her that all the time that's why I'll be lighting candles and [ __ ] at the station doing me too people be like why are you doing this I say because of Taylor yeah her yeah I don't even be in the studio I'm going to Tampa so a word she like the first guy I got to lead a podcast early I said why I got to go to LaGuardia no I said where you going she goes LaGuardia I said yeah but where are you going yeah right and she calls Tampa and I go what's in Tampa Beyonce are you going all the way to Tampa to see Beyonce she's like oh yeah me and my friend Taylor Taylor don't exist yes she died yo you sound crazy yeah it's some crazy things about this person Taylor Who's posting I have several pictures of Taylor if you go on my Ig you should have several pictures of Taylor on Taylor what the [ __ ] right this person doesn't exist but she's going all the way to Tampa to see Beyonce to hang with Taylor her imaginary friend what you need to do is go to Taylor Swift that's what you need to do that's what you need to go Taylor Swift I'm just saying I went to Taylor you saw Taylor his greatest live concert I've ever seen in my life the only person you can compare Taylor Swift to is Michael Jackson there's nobody else it is you're doing a disrespect and a disservice to any other artist if you compare Taylor Swift to that I'm being honest with you I know there's a lot of cops no come on bro come on oh you think you're the only one that could Riley [Laughter] Taylor Swift amazing though oh I heard it's like a stage play I did hear that [ __ ] it is the most amazing live concert I've ever seen really it's not even close the only person you can see Beyonce I've seen Beyonce no you haven't oh but here's the thing here's the thing there's no question Beyonce is a much better dancer there's no question that much better singer he's a much better singer there's no question Beyonce is a generational Talent it's a town like Beyonce does not come along what I'm what I'm trying to say is you're doing a disservice to Beyonce to compare her to Taylor Swift because Taylor is in another galaxy yeah you know all jokes aside and I mean this and this is gonna hurt feelings here but I don't even like comparing them because Beyonce is you get that once in a generation maybe once in a century you get a Beyonce right absolutely I hate the comparison it sucks we have to compare them but she's not even it's not even Taylor Toyota put out so like you don't realize when you sit there I was a Taylor hater I'm going there because my wife wants to go and I'm like I've been making fun of this girl for a decade I've been hating on her I felt like such a phony within one song I'm standing up I knew you were trouble when you walked in listen I'm saluting my boy Frosty man Frosty listen to the last episode of brilliant news and he texts me uh uh of a news report of how I said Beyonce's tour is gonna gross 500 million dollars it's like the highest grossing R B Tour ever say r b though put make that loud and I go make that laugh and I text him back and I go well Taylor's estimated the gross like 1.4 billion like like they're saying Beyonce's whole tour is going to be 500 million but she's already like at 400 million now like shows done like with I think it was within 22 shows she was over 300 million number one highest grossing tour of the year so far and frosty's going back and forth man I go Frost I want to be right about this right but the reality is when we're talking about just the numbers wise yeah you're looking at this tour the person who does this I read that article too the person who does the stage design is also the Taylor Swift the stage design the person that does the choreography bro she's like generous she is a new person on the tour she takes a moment to shout them out hey here's her new guitarist here's a new pianist give it up for them in Phoenix so Beyonce shouts out people in the crowd though oh Taylor got people in the crowd they should be shouting out like people in the front like shout out like yo shout out to Andrew bro like shout out to me though but Taylor Taylor gave 55 million dollars in bonuses I don't care if she's even doing this so people go look how sweet Taylor is it's still a hundred thousand to your bus driver a hundred thousand to the light guy a hundred thousand like I I didn't realize it I've been someone who's hated on tail but I went in there not thinking I was going to be blown away and it was spectacular now this is something interesting though because they're saying I read one report hey we got that we have to compare them it's unfair to Beyonce you can't compare the only person you can compare Taylor to is Michael Jackson and I'm telling you and and if if I'm being honest it's Michael Jackson this is the only person you can compare her to if you talk about hits and I'm talk and I listen I don't want to do this but we could do it I don't want to do this we could do it you can't tell me Beyonce has the same amount of hits no features as Taylor she does she got no no take away the features you can't even name them no she does take away the features you can't even name them Beyonce they don't have a lot of features though take away the features you can't name 10 Beyonce songs ten Beyonce songs without the features go well you talk about no Destiny's Child what do you mean by no Jesse Charles no Jay-Z no Sean the ball Single Ladies wait wait single ladies with Destiny's Child right no that's her Love on Top Single Ladies uh Ring the Alarm Halo uh it's a bunch of them that's four not a bunch I mean I can't I'm just saying Taylor got the four 12 albums it's a bunch of them without features though what do you mean we don't know I could play any Taylor song right now you know you don't even know um hold up they don't love me like I look it's a bunch of them Irreplaceable these are not these are great songs but these are not shut down a hundred thousand oh yesterday yes they are yeah listen you must not know about me you must not know about me but also here's the interesting thing right they're saying Beyonce's tour that one article came in it's unfair to be honest why can't we just appreciate her in her greatness they said one article one article says the toy is going to make 500 million all together but this New York Times article that came out two days ago said that eras which is Tales tour could top one billion in sales making it the first concert in history to cross that Mark but some estimates suggest that Beyonce's World talk could gross even more than that by the time it wraps in October I don't know what's true and what's not true I hope they both make all the money I don't even care about it I don't care about the money what I'm saying is this poor girl Taylor Swift has been has received a million times more criticism than Beyonce it's whoever hates Beyonce Beyonce is unanimously no reason to not like her it is constant hate all and this you know what I don't like I don't like how she acts fake surprise that award show so here's the thing you know you was going here's the thing here's the thing I didn't like that either and I suppose commented on it when you see her live that [ __ ] feels authentic and I don't know son you know me she walks out to the crowd and goes oh my God yeah come on y'all are here for me who else would we be here for Taylor hands on my knees I was typing like this Taylor bro how do you act surprised at your own show that people are there to see you come on come on you'll get caught up in there I was caught up in it's a cult bro it's a cult I was caught up in it you never experienced something like this 100 000 people bro she said to the people at the top of the thing jump off ten thousand people would have jumped off right now Beyonce tells the crowd to be quiet and everybody shuts the [ __ ] up who talks when a black woman says be quiet what is the argument here though what are we arguing y'all are arguing I'm not arguing you I need to see Beyonce's show that's what I hated me y'all even bring Beyonce into it what I'm trying to say is y'all need to just compare Taylor Swift to Michael Jackson and it's close I just want to let you know it's close I I just want to let you know it's very close it's a problem it's been if you really do it back to back that's crazy if Taylor Swift could moonwalk we won't even talk about Michael Jackson I'm so sick of Taylor Swift We won't even talk about Michael Jackson I'm so sick of Taylor using Twitter as a search engine why why do you do this look at that you know what's kind of crazy though Michael was looking like Taylor Swift in his final form right Michael and Taylor had a lot of similarities he knew who the goat was because even Michael Jackson knew who the goat was even Michael Jackson knew the greatest of all time was greatest of all Taylor I haven't seen the show look at her going crazy look at these girls going crazy you never seen women go crazy like this you have not Beyonce shows are like this yes dude yes she got all the gay dudes gay dudes straight dudes dads children yo let me ask you a question at Beyonce shows do they have 3 000 people outside the arena oh yeah singing yeah yeah like a tail like a tailgate yo Beyonce had to sell at one of her shows she had to sell listening only seats so you was paying like 300 just to hear that's right like but by the way what Beyonce and Taylor are doing for the the economy this is unbelievable I hate that we compare them why can't Beyonce be the [ __ ] greatest artist of her generation you're the one compared I'm comparing to Michael Jackson y'all keep bringing it Beyonce I said Taylor the only person who compares to Michael Jackson you like have you seen Beyonce I'm not I'm bringing up Michael Jackson and then R Kelly why does that sound so funny only R Kelly and Michael Jackson can be compared to Taylor Swift nah and if rap was good live which is not it's it's the worst uh genre of music live it would be Kanye West no Kanye shows are phenomenal he's the only one oh no Drake's show is great too but it's so hard to make a rap I get what you saying I get what you're saying Kanye is the one who you either have to be already physically it's almost like that's a great this is a great conversation you know how there's certain comedians who are physical comedians yep to me DMX DNX physical animated performers yeah they can get you guys like giving you a great show yeah Kanye's by far bro by far rap music is just the best to like vibe to Bob to drive to it just [ __ ] gets you charged up it's amazing but the concert the way I look at is if it don't work in karaoke it's not going to work in a concert so for example when you see someone saying karaoke if they got a great voice and they're singing Britney Spears Toxic it don't matter if they're singing Halo it shuts the room down yeah yeah and then one [ __ ] goes up there and they sing Eminem's Eight Mile and you like wrap it up ain't nobody come to karaoke for these weak spaghetti um unless there's something there right like you would have to have like a a head come out on stage and throw up the spaghetti you know what I mean like something like I get what you're saying it's just a harder genre to communicate live so it's Taylor Michael Jackson and Boosie is what you say and Boosie okay okay wipe it down wipe it down because he's country bro Boosie is crunchy Boosie was wild and saying R Kelly could beat Michael Jackson in the verses though like it's not even close like R Kelly is a person who put out a lot of quantity not a lot of quality bro that's a hot take it's really not a hot take man you know because there was a time after R Kelly's you know Scandal and everything happened he was just working with any and everybody I think he was putting out the songs too early I actually do I feel like he was just throwing too much music out and it was just a little premature I really truly do should have left the songs age a little bit yeah why why do they do that why are there some people that just that you can't help yourself yeah but Michael's hits man to that point Michael's hits a mature yeah Michael's hits have been around for a long time because when we talk about Michael and R Kelly in a verses you gotta you talk about the Jackson Five no no features we don't do features bro nine verses you could do oh we're talking about an actual versus yeah and Michael was the lead singer on a lot of those songs are you talking about the Jackson Five you talking about Off The Wall album you talking about Thriller you talking about bad versus you can play songs you wrote and produce Michael still smokes that's Michael Jackson R Kelly for a lot name a record R Kelly got this on the level of Don't Stop Till You Get Enough name a record R Kelly wrote or did I want to rock with you we went through this we went through Michael Jackson's discography because we were having that conversation the very normal conversation Taylor and Michael and the album Thriller alone [Music] is insane and off the wall is better than Thriller Off the Wall is crazy what are we doing also he has D side we're not talking about b-sides D side random like butterflies this random remember the time and Taylor's still got him that's the that's how great Taylor is smooth criminal Beat It The Way You Make Me Feel You are not alone you man in the mirror Billie Jean You Rock My World come on man p-y-t you don't even know the song because it's not Taylor if it would tell I would have known that [ __ ] get up Taylor [ __ ] just just look at why are you so upset at Taylor like we did not Taylor Swift can't [ __ ] with Michael Jackson bro no no no she's just the closest yeah and look looks wise yeah they both look like come on come on I don't know none of these songs [Applause] I knew you were trouble when you walked in that's our most fire slap that got to be her last song Take It Off she get on fire Shake It Off she got Bankers take it on fire Shake It Off come on come on keep going keep going I don't know these songs bro I know shaking We are Never getting back [Music] fire fire really crazy flower song Crazy don't know any of those yes but let's just keep going I just start listening to this girl for the first time let's make scooter some money play one of them well I'm telling you I don't know none of these songs summer crazy how does Cruel Summer go it's a cruise It's a cruel summer we are never ever ever having a cruel summer I knew you were cruel when you walk around and cool it off I'm telling you this girl is Unstoppable give me your God damn my point Taylor Swift is a beat you're not scrolling bro she's hating me scrolling all through Beyonce but by the way man Taylor Swift just has our audience man like she has her audience of people that [ __ ] with her audience is everyone that's been you just went Taylor Swift songs I don't know if Taylor's audience is diverse as Beyonce I don't know I I think everyone has a strong Midwest down south following I think Taylor's audience is a lot more white than Beyonce that's true I think Beyonce had her I think personally Beyonce might have had a broader white audience before that Super Bowl performance she did that people said was uh anti-police when she was actually it was actually anti-police brutality but everybody was saying it was anti-police I noticed a shift in how America viewed her looked at Beyonce after that well how did we look at her um I just think people yeah people with people were that's but that's why people at that level don't make those kind of stands yeah because they do too much to lose it's too much to lose right everybody's artist at that point because if you look at some of the projects that Beyonce put out kind of after that like The Lion King soundtrack was cool you know what I'm saying it was it was great musically but I don't think it sold tremendous which is kind of crazy right because that's the Lion King That's The Lion King in The Lion King soundtrack I thought that would have did a lot better than it did and then Renaissance came out and Renaissance did like a respectable 300 something thousand in the first week but then you look at somebody like Taylor Taylor did a million yeah you know in her first week of death I did like a million Perfect Storm though because she was doing the whole uh campaign to buy her Masters yeah and remake all the songs so basically it reintroduced even the Young Generation to even her old stuff yeah and so it was just a perfect storm and that's why when you have a concert and now you're performing all your greatest hits and you're getting money from every single stream of people trying to catch up on those hits it's a perfect storm well that's why I think the Renaissance store is so good so you're saying she's the greatest of all time actually not you can't even sing more than four of us soon gorgeous gorgeous you know four four of course Michael Jackson it's Michael Jackson of all time Michael [ __ ] Jackson I think Beyonce is the closest thing to Michael and I think that the Renaissance tour is the best thing for Beyonce because people are being reminded of how fantastic she is I do think after that Super Bowl performance that one which he uh you know stood up for against police brutality I think that kind of that shifted things in America even the way they would talk about her like the way Fox News started to talk about her and a lot of them um lightning rock yeah yeah and I think I think that kind of made like a lot of those white fans that was probably on Beyonce kind of fall back a little bit you know what I'm saying and they might just be coming back around now yo Beyonce needs to get on that country wave what was that country song she had does she have a country song which one country is really doing it right now oh no they killing countries like the top five songs in the country is what's Taylor is a fan base called swiffers or something yo you you were really a hater yeah yo that's some haters who do you think has a big a bigger fan base oh come on tell it's not cool no I'm just saying like rolling around her though because Beyonce you got to be hot they don't play well they definitely are better with it that's social media you have a social media yeah we have a social media I mean listen man we're talking about numbers like that funny might be the most pull up album sales pull up Taylor Swift album sales I think she sold like 75 million worldwide I don't want I don't want this to I don't want us to do this to Beyonce it's unfair because if you're comparing her to Michael Jackson that's a fine comparison no nobody can [ __ ] with Michael in terms of album sales anything Mike that's not right that's one album go go go go Taylor Swift total album sales I am here with you Michael 114 million units Taylor Swift is sold now go to Beyonce total album sales and this is just Beyonce as a solo artist it's not even counting Destiny's Child she has 171 million in the united she's amazing it's man that's just in the U.S there's nothing like it there's nothing I like it there's nothing like it except for Taylor and Michael Jackson those are the only things that I would say are like we say just Taylor has her own like because Taylor and I'm I know I'm wrong and saying this Taylor feels like a state Beyonce feels like a planet I don't understand what you're saying Taylor feels like planning even though I know bigger than the type feels right it feels like Beyonce is her own world what is Michael Jackson a city is Michael Jackson's the universe the greater the small the smaller we go the greater we get Michael Jackson's the universe Michael Jackson is a universe like seriously all of these people exist in Michael Jackson's Universe in some way shape or form and because then Michael Jackson's Universe Taylor is a Galaxy and then Beyonce's Taylor she's like a state Taylor feel like Oklahoma no and I know I'm wrong with that yes you are wrong okay what's the biggest state Texas yeah uh Taylor's the biggest Alaska right is it by by whatever yeah okay so Taylorsville she feels like Alaska even though I know I'm wrong yeah yeah she feels like Alaska she don't feel like she have her own world yes you know what I mean yes and Beyonce has a her own Planet probably even her own Galaxy now you're trying to bring it up to Galaxy because I said Taylor had a Galaxy and you feel like you need to step it up I know what you're doing I know what you're doing okay okay yeah okay okay [Laughter] Beyonce's Galaxy yeah tailors planet no Pluto she's Pluto no could be a planet might not be a planet it's like it's crazy what you're doing right now it's really crazy what you're doing right now because you're trying to take away the success and greatness of the arguably the greatest artist of all time I mean it's the greatest of artists of all time Taylor's tale is there bro she writes all her music she writes all her own music so we don't want to have that conversation about greatest artists of all time we don't want to have that conversation we do not we do not want to have the conversation of writing their own songs and that's what makes a great artist we're not talking about the greatest performance no way Taylor writes all her if we're talking about all of this all events nobody really writes their own music hey hey all of it Michael Jackson didn't even write his own music he didn't no no no he didn't that's what I'm trying to say if we want to have the conversation of greatest artists of all time and I know that we don't want to have this conversation it's Taylor [ __ ] Swift Taylor might write her own music that's why all her songs have to sing oh now we hating I knew you could shake it off shake it off to the left to the left to the Halo guys right [Music] come on it's every song happy Sunday what about lemonade that's it and what I'm trying to say is if we want to talk about greatest artists of all time they and they gotta write their songs because if they don't have to write their songs no put Frank Sinatra in there let's say some real [ __ ] yes Taylor Swift is written and is credited as a songwriter on all of her songs that don't mean she wrote them all I mean she just wrote Oh I know y'all not gonna do this you just said I know you're not going to Beyonce Taylor I'm just I know y'all not going Beyonce Taylor I know we're not gonna do this Jack jacking off you got a lot of writers though no she has collaborated with them she writes all the albums y'all know she writes all the albums stop trying to hate her y'all trying to hate y'all trying to say it does say more than 60 songs credit her as a soul writer show me 60 Beyonce songs [Laughter] oh [ __ ] yes by and large Beyonce writes all her own songs she is credited of the lead songwriter on each of them it's not 19. we're writing all the songs on lemonade too but as we've mentioned some of her biggest hits have been co-written with up to 25 other people same thing as Taylor you same thing as Tails you wanted you wanted the greatest Liars in history you really wanted the greatest liar that's the second time I heard Mr Davis he said that to me today he wanted to create some Liars you're one of the greatest Liars ever and everybody knows that you know that's what they say about you yeah Joe Coy going for the jungle because I haven't been to one of his shows yet he's like you go to everybody else's [ __ ] comedy show Hey Joe it took him damn near 14 years not true he came to him not true I went to Carolina oh yeah he went to Canada you got a little Hiatus you know but hey man I saw you I needed to see you when I saw you at Caroline's I saw your Andrews one of the best next thing I know you doing Radio City that made sense to me great well one of the greatest Liars all I'm saying is if we talk about one of the the greatest answers formers of all time Beyonce right it's Listen Beyonce if you want to talk about one of the greatest performers of all time uh Elvis you want to talk about one of the greatest performers never saw Elvis we can argue is pretty damn good Mike he was overrated Michael Jackson nobody comes close that's right uh Prince Jesus we're not even talking about I will say all jokes oh no no playing all the instruments by the way why are we not even mentioning by the way we don't talk about this enough Prince Stevie Wonder Stevie Wonder the best musical artist ever what about Ray Charles ever Ray Charles Stevie Wonder and Prince are the best musical artists of any genre ever we're saying explain music but musicals means you have to write they write they produce they play instruments everything they Stevie and Mike Stevie and Prince do everything yeah but they don't got the box Taylor has that's the problem I put Ray Charles in that they don't have the amount of plays everything and he writes no disrespect Hey listen no respect to Prince but I think Prince is kind of like a Carl Malone in it like we just needed a somebody to give credit to outside of Michael Jordan Michael Jordan was so dominant there was just a couple years where he was like all right just give someone else give it to Carl Malone nice it's more LeBron and stuff Prince is not in the same it's more LeBron and stuff not the same ballpark as Michael Jackson yes he is I'm sorry yeah I know put the box up the Red Corvette Purple Rain pull up Prince on Prince got a Million Dreams that's why I got Google Taylor if it ain't up here that's not true Diamonds and Pearls Purple Rain Little Red Corvette you just name two I just said yeah huh now stop oh when doves cries that should have been top of mind yes Kiss You Got The Look rap oh Raspberry Beret come on man Raspberry Beret adore like yo Prince got bopped man like stop no he got Bops but it's not messing with Michael Jackson Michael Jackson we can all sit here right now and name 30 songs right now no problem 30. 30. it's like oh dirty with you on Michael [Applause] [Music] he's calling alone incredibly dominant weird sexual [ __ ] but he's not [ __ ] with Michael Jordan incredibly dominant weird sexual [ __ ] he's not [ __ ] with Michael Jordan bro I'm saying princess Carl Malone he's not calling alone he's calling him alone man so who is Stevie wondering because Stevie Helen Keller wrote for Michael the greatest blind ever that's the greatest blonde I'm sure to say Stevie can't see nothing see me third yo baby can't sleep well listen Stevie Wonder y'all man no you know the [ __ ] up you know why you know the [ __ ] up thing about Prince it's all about how you go out to the reading Prince isn't celebrated the way he is the reason James Brown isn't celebrated the way they are because there were things that trumped their death when Michael Jackson died the world stopped stop stop sadly when somebody passes by the way amazing Pro parole yeah that colonoscopy oh and the doctors will tell you this is stuff that Michael Jackson was using so what did you wake up you're like I can see I get it I get it all the way I get it all the way but the crazy thing about prince prince died well let's start with James Brown James Brown died on Christmas you're not beating Christmas yo James because James we should be having these conversations James should be in these conversations yo James Brown might be the greatest ever because he didn't even have words imagine being able to make songs they're that impactful they don't even got words imagine how musical you got to be think about that he was the first rapper he definitely was the first rapper no he was my dad used to always there my dad used to be like James Brown is the first rapper amen you know what I mean and James was the inspiration for all of these people let's be clear on that who all of them James Brown Michael Jackson's all of them come on yo you can't compare James around to Michael Jackson's time well there's different eras right that's like comparing Dr Jada Michael Jordan you know what I'm saying like it's literally like like Michael Jordan Chris you want to say something I was going to add Diana Ross to that too man Chris too Diana Ross no I don't think she was as good a performer get out of here because she didn't dance one Diana Ross song come on bro I Wanna Dance I'm coming out Diana created the gay anthem of all games come on man I want the world to know come on man Diane is different what's another one after that I mean YMCA shut up look at James bro got the Champions James look like a mop James left it all on the stage come on James left it all on the stage man he really did now let's go to Prince When did Prince die point Prince died April 22nd wow 2016. pull it up let me make sure I'm right Taylor pull it up let me touch myself pull it up that sound like James Brown come on let me touch myself oh April 21st you're right April 21st okay the reason I said the 22nd because on April 21st Breakfast Club pre-records all of its interviews Breakfast Club did an interview with a guy by the name of Birdman on April 21st 2016. I remember doing the MTV up fronts I was hosting or something that night and the News came that Prince died MTV admittedly immediately changed all their programming on the network changed all the programming at the up front and I remember thinking to myself the next day damn should we even play Birdman nobody's even gonna care about the bird man that will happen and then what happened I said [ __ ] Birdman is only two minutes so let's play the two minutes and then we get back to Prince April 21st was a Thursday Friday was April 22nd we played a bird man all weekend it was Birdman Birdman Birdman Mania y'all should have been putting some respect on prince's name so my point with saying all of that is people do remember how you go and a lot of times because of you you really did ruin his legacy that is not true but there is something to that door right yeah you ruined it no also it was ruinable I'm telling you that that that interview on America's Club is not going viral on Michael Jackson's death day it's not it's not you ain't even putting it up because you're like nothing could compete with this but you knew deep down Carl Malone died you knew deep down the mailman not delivering today I was shocked by that one I thought Prince was gonna be the one I thought Prince was one of those ones that would stop the world I'm not gonna lie I really did you and then and then then remember I remember after Prince passed away we had a debate about who could stop the world son what's the next line if they passed away You Are Not Alone lyrics You are not alone I am here with you [Music] Shake It Off [Laughter] [Music] I don't know that ain't the one the one that make you cry I am here with you every day oh you're far away I am here to stay but you are not alone [Music] you're always [Applause] [Music] Michael Jackson on Broadway I saw it we talked about that Financial Dominican my Frost God is that his name Dominican huh how are they Dominican that light-skinned one he looked Cuban or something damn would you want to frost his tips [Laughter] miles out frosted tips Jesus Christ Latter-Day Saints salute the miles Frost oh man what's the one that makes you cry oh man in the mirror pull up man in the Mary Taylor this is this right here I'm saying if you ever want to cry for any reason this one right here boy this [ __ ] here will make you change your [ __ ] life Michael Jackson Man in the Mirror come on now I'm gonna make a change [Music] [Music] knees [Music] a summer's disregard a broken bottle time they follow each other [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] don't make me do that but diamonds and Pros is close diamonds are Pros I don't even know the words to that song come on man pull up Diamonds and Pearls cause I don't know me no but when that [ __ ] come on I went down you got something home was fantastic yeah he was great no he was no he won the MVP over Michael Jordan even though he shouldn't have and that's Prince we don't talk about Carl Malone having a white savior enough what does that mean you know black people black people who have white saviors what does that mean I've only had black saviors in my life John Stockton oh was absolutely Carl Malone's white savior Carl Malone ain't [ __ ] without his homeboy do you think that he was like the real Blind Side do you think Stockton adopted Karl Malone oh maybe you heard the drama about that blow I definitely did but you know I always thought it was that [ __ ] was fishy I watched that [ __ ] movie and I said oh this is some stuff there's some cuckolding going on there yeah he [ __ ] like I always felt like let's get out he was just in there laying it down on that wife you know oh 100 I always felt that 100 and what makes it even crazier is the fact that he wasn't even legally adopted how did that happen I didn't know that you did a conservatorship instead of adoption why did they do that that's what I want to know how does that work they saw division is like uh we need to control your finances oh ever but I thought you had to have legal guardianship with somebody to have a conservative ship conservative whatever yeah I think you do that's what I'm saying he's not even he wasn't legally adopted no that [ __ ] it's peculiar bro man but hold on real quick does anybody know how this song sounds I know the hook Diamonds and Pearls do you want to be a boy or a girl scroll down Taylor that's really it last one oh no that's not it he goes if I gave you diamonds and pearls girls would you be a happy boy or a girl if I could I would give you the world diamonds and pearls and slaps bro no anyway go to uh go to either Ray Charles if you really want to get emotional we got we got to go Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder's Stevie Wonder or jelly roll save me oh my God jelly roll save me is guaranteed what does Jelly Roll save me you haven't played this song right now oh my God go on YouTube play jelly roll save me what is that about get his cholesterol salute to my guy jelly roll what is that about couldn't save me about man I mean it is about saving them but from like you know living that it's it's an amazing song I like jelly roll you got good energy y'all I mean I just ready hold on hold on we got the we got the sound yeah [Music] she got 188 million views didn't even know if he was gonna put on the album look at the top I was not expecting [Music] [Music] always phenomenal bro every time salute the goddamn jelly roll [ __ ] Alex over there crying that [ __ ] against me that [ __ ] hard I'll get drunk and that it got a uh John Mayer Waiting on the World to Change type energy to it yeah but God damn beautiful I thought jelly roll wrapped he did but now he's also singing he's doing Rock country like he's so music what I love about that is he was dead serious about everything he said in that song because he didn't make any lifestyle changes after that record yeah none clearly he has a little bit he did yeah he's getting into it he's getting after it now really well good jelly roll because we need you around brother that [ __ ] Dale man that's beautiful that was a beautiful song who knew that out of all of these Legends we were talking about jelly roll was gonna shut it down Jesus Christ yeah let's pay some bills man all right let's take a break man and I gotta talk to you about Elevate Elevate you salute to my guy Steve Harvey man I gotta tell you about something that's been keeping all of us feeling fresh healthy and energized lately it's elevates you Vitality Daily Greens co-founded by my OG big Unk Steve Harvey and formulated by Harvard scientists okay this game changing formula boost your body's mitochondrial production providing you with sustained energy throughout the day no more relying on coffee or unhealthy energy drinks to get you going it's packed it over 30 superfoods vitamins and minerals to feel energized focused and ready to tackle your day okay let me tell you about some of the key benefits 30 Super Foods per 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new podcasts that we got on blackeffect.com not even just the new podcast the OG podcast that been rocking with us uh for the last three years as well okay okay um let's get back to the show what else we got bro there's a lot of things happening right talk to me man talk to me man it's a lot of give me some things give me some things we have this Canelo uh Charlo fight um maybe I'm missing something was this was Charlo did Charlo yeah I I don't know like you were saying Steve thinks that Charles is going to win I just can't fathom canelo's losing to anybody when he's coming down and wait I just can't canelo's knocked out actually no no no he's going uh uh Charlie went up two weight classes where are they fighting at what wait 168 60 something 168 is 2A classes because Charles fights at what 154. uh yeah he went up two away classes 160 something go look that up there once if they're fighting at 160 now 168 is too big there's no no he went up to weight classes Charlotte's coming all the way up to 168. yeah he went up to weight classes because remember Chalo has been hurt Charlo hurt his hand he hasn't fought since me in 2022 because he hurt his hand and um you know the fight presented itself so that's a big money fight you know yeah that's why they're actually stripping him I think the WBO is stripping him on one of his belts because he's um going up to fight Charlo and he's got a mandatory with that dude Tim uh Tim Tim Tim Zoo yeah pasta Zoo's son yeah do you remember costa zoo fought Zab Judah and knocked out Zab Judah remember Zab Judah got knocked out and he and he had the legs that he his brain was in his upper body was in but he had the legs that weren't there that was costa zoo so casu's son Tim zoo is now I think like 140 or like 147 147. he's at 147 yeah he's going he's going to get the WBO belt the welterweight belt Jermel um I mean you know you can't be mad at your mail for ducking the man not ducking but avoid not wanting to fight the mandatory to go get the money because he's definitely not gonna get the money and I'm gonna tell you what I like about Jamil we had Jamil on Breakfast Club jamel's like look I'ma fight Canelo and then I'm gonna go back down and fight bud at 154. that's tough [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] coming down and weigh this stuff you know because you're adding on all that muscle like remember how tricky that was for Roy Jones he came up to fight uh Ruiz and then he came and it came back down well no he came back down and I think he beat Tarver in a tough fight Oh I thought it was a decision no no I think he came back down he beat Tarver in like a really tough fight I thought when he came back now he got knocked out no and then they fought again and that's where he knocked out yeah so but it was really tough for him to cut you add all that muscle that muscle don't go away quick yeah man and Canelo said there's no way he fighting he coming down to fight but yeah Canelo on Breakfast Club too we have both in the morning this morning what yeah I was talking to Canelo way better than it used to be like tell me about this what was it when Canelo first came to The Breakfast Club he had a translator you know what I'm saying like now he don't need it like he's sitting down we're actually having a conversation he understands things that we're talking about he he you know he's yeah I [ __ ] with Canelo what do you say um he said his no he said he'd fight blood at 168. he said there's no way he could come down to 154. he hates coming he said he just can't do it no more yeah he said he'll go up but he can't he he can't come down wow you know so he said he'd fight him at 168 and I mean honestly man there's really nothing for Bud to do except for rematch Earl suspense at this point nobody want to see that but what is that no it's not that for him like what else is there for him because he won low he set up a nice Charlo fight but he wants to fight Charlo so he can become three times three-time Undisputed Champion you know what I mean why is Charlo Undisputed right now Charles Undisputed at 154. at 154 but they're about to take his they're taking the WBO belt from him so Tim you I think is getting that yeah and then Charlotte will have three belts so I don't know maybe maybe okay but once he fights Too Perfect Right get the belt to try to become Undisputed again you know and then he's three-time Undisputed people yeah that's a good fight yeah low-key has got us caring about belts again there was a long time in boxing where belts didn't matter at all yeah but since he's doing something historic we're like oh [ __ ] I want to see this happen yeah did you ever pull up the weight Taylor but wait tell me about Canelo you never said what he was talking about like what's Canelo was cool man he said he only stops [ __ ] one week before a fight really yeah how do you say yeah shout out to Mexicans brother you know they ain't stopping that he said some people like a month or two months he said all you need is a week okay and how do you say it how do you ask him I said yo are you one of those guys that don't have sex before first he goes a week the beautiful thing about Canelo being that like his he doesn't he's just I guess learning how to speak English well all his answers are straight into the point quick do you think Oscar de la Hoy is a good person no you know what I'm saying like he's just very like I don't know how to be political no yeah he's just really to the point like no no you know but it was it was I mean it was good wearing both of them uh tomorrow no I'm looking for the weight I know he's 154 but what a him and Canelo fighting at I think it's like 160 160 something just do boxer Jamel Charles versus catch weight huh 168 yeah and then the fight is September 30th September 30th but you know what I think I noticed today about Jermel Charlo is that he probably walks around that size anyway and canelo's not a big 168. he probably walks around around 168. so they're both overblown 150 Force like I think Canelo starts his career at 154. if I'm not mistaken oh he fought Floyd at 150 52 I was at 148 I don't remember 150. 152 yeah maybe it was 154 or maybe it was 150 or something like that not like Canelo man Canelo was a true champion you know what I mean um and he said he's tired of people saying he's ducking been been a benavida benavidez um because he was like they say that about every [ __ ] body exactly yeah it was like it was like they always tell me I'm dunking somebody to like get in the ring and beat them the guy fought a light heavyweight man bro it's and was getting banged on it was in there banging Canelo ain't ducking nobody Canelo is the guy he's he's the a side he knows he's the a side everybody wants to fight Canelo Alvarez because they know it's a big money fight so he can do whatever the [ __ ] he wants yeah you know uh what else we got Taylor Gang they they putting Trump behind bars or what I told you no I ain't getting them I call this one they ain't getting them I'm gonna be honest with you I'm shocked because if you go back and listen to over any of this podcast you couldn't tell me that he wasn't gonna get locked up right I knew he was gonna get locked up then there was a part and my there was a period where I was like nah it's not happening yo he's been averaging one indictment a month for the past four months it's like Kodak Black Kodak got the same no bro like like and and now he's got 91 criminal charges Fannie Mae Willis I don't even know if her name is Fannie Mae but I call her Fannie Mae because she don't play Fannie Mae Willis when she hits you with the RICO she hits you with the [ __ ] Rico bro Fannie Mae is the same prosecutor in Atlanta who gave who hit Young Thug and YSL with the RICO and now she just hit old Thug and goddamn ocl with the RICO old Caucasian life different bruh she hit Giuliani she hit his lawyer like she hit 19 people yo she better hope it sticks bro cause if it doesn't stick it's guaranteed presidency look at the Rico's easier to I have a theory about that now just one person has to turn 19 people somebody guaranteed 91 criminal charges a lot of those [ __ ] is going to stick to Trump here's the thing about the presidency and I want I want everybody in Magda to understand this I want all Republicans to understand this no matter how much you love the guy it's time to move on it's time to move on is it it's too much of a distraction he's too funny he's facing 91 criminal charges there's a lot of different people running for president Republicans we already know how y'all get down y'all all gonna follow the leader regardless y'all y'all are way y'all are more unified than Democrats will ever be it does not matter who is on your ticket as long as y'all get behind that person and vote for them you already know all y'all are gonna always fall in line with each other it's time to move on from Donald Trump yeah wow it's just too much at this point because think about it right there's not an industry in America Donald Trump could be in be facing 91 criminal charges and still have a job they would be the suspended them distance themselves from them fired them all together there's got to be some type of standard for running for president of the United States of America bro and it's until proven guilty I'm with you so let's put them on Ice you know what I mean until all this [ __ ] is over if you live long enough you come back and do it again in 2020 [ __ ] hate you know what I'm saying but next year nah bruh it's too much of a distraction how you gonna have Trump on the debate stage you know what I mean like like that there's certain things not even Trump is good enough we love distraction my boy we love distress but even Republicans are bringing this [ __ ] up now well the problem is that they don't have anybody so it's like DeSantis all the Republicans start to get in line with DeSantis and then he had his Howard Dean moment where he just continues to look like a Goofy Goober so it don't have to be DeSantis yo Donald Trump and who is there Donald Trump is the first charismatic Republican president in a long [ __ ] time yeah they've all been [ __ ] tin cans well what charismatic Republican president yes now George Bush was uh no he was and he was just goofy no he was he was a goofball he wasn't humanly charismatic in a in a in a in a lick your elbows kind of way in a in a Timmy stop licking the window kind of way you know it working it works I don't think I just think Republicans are that strong of a force that no matter who is the GOP candidate they can get behind oh that's also true I'm just saying they need someone with Charisma to get behind and right now not against Biden well outside of trump who can do it I think anyone to Santa's just not the scientists because the Santa the Santa's is too he's he's he's he's he's he's proven himself to be Trump like people don't want that right no that's not the issue I think that he's just too goofy as a as a person like people love his policies conservatives love his policies and then there's Democrats that are like yeah I kind of like this guy's policies and I like the fact that he's not just trying to be as salacious As Trump and just saying all these outlandish things I like them it kind of is though like even the stuff he tends to attack is like do people really give a [ __ ] about that bro yes like Banning books in Florida like they do I don't think that's a national issue people care about they do they do but it doesn't matter point B LGBT stuff I think if he was to attack that more with religion I think he'd have a better shot Fair there are I'm not saying that they're people that are right but there are tons of people that feel very strongly about that so uh I think Mike Pence could be get out of here that guy's a [ __ ] so his biggest opposition is Rhonda Sanchez but him my pinch is back uh fat boy he's CL he's jelly roll that boy that was jelly roll Christmas if he wasn't fat he doesn't look it he doesn't look presidential it's it's the reality of matter he just doesn't look present if he come out in anything don't save me if he come out there save me come on man uh Save Me From Myself listen I think that I think there's a plenty of Republicans [Music] not if they wanted to chill they could get behind Tim Scott if they wanted to they could get behind Tim Scott if they wanted to I'm just saying that I just think it's time I don't think Tim Scott will do it but the the sleeper ticket no Scott is running I let me get out I don't think Tim Scott will do it but the sleeper ticket is Trump and Tim Scott ah man I'm just telling you if Trump and Tim Scott are on the same ticket it's time to back away from him behind that Indian dude I forgot his name whatever but Vic yeah be back yeah we had him on Breakfast Club what did you think about him uh you know and I don't I didn't I didn't [ __ ] with nothing that he was talking about you know what I'm saying because I didn't mean uh one thing in particular is that he just started voting um when he was 30 something years old so he wasn't even in the process so you just started voting but yet you want to you know create legislation that makes it more difficult for people to vote like you want people to pass some type of civics test you know what I'm saying in order to know how to vote and you just started voting at 30 something years old it's like come on bro you know what I'm saying yeah you know like come on bro you know and and I always feel kind of like leery about people like him who are anti-affirmative action when we know that his parents benefited from it from affirmative action you know what I'm saying it's just it's just it's just strange you know I'm happy he came on the show I'm glad you know you know listen I'm open to talking to anybody you know and we got we actually do have a lot more Republican candidates coming like Larios is coming you can make the argument that he's his kids might be hurt by affirmative action I would think no no affirmative action hurts his kids and that helps his kids um because he's privileged not only is he privileged but like like for example Asian students yeah they get like a 1600 on the SATs they don't get into Harvard because Harvard's keeping spaces open for people who will do worse and because of affirmative action yeah so let's say Harvard lets in these Native Americans that are getting a 11 30 on the SCT because they're like hey we need to even some stuff out because of affirmative action if you're an Asian if you're an Indian who's gonna [ __ ] ace the SATs you're like yo the affirmative action isn't helping me it's hurting me yeah you see what I'm saying yeah they got to do away with the Legacy Legacy Kids The Legacy Legacy Kids a number white affirmative action yeah yeah what makes Christie run get the [ __ ] out of here when the Krispy Kreme like hits turns on that [ __ ] when the hot light when the Highlight turns on that Krispy Kreme why doesn't he just get on a zepik bro like get on this epic lose the [ __ ] weight look presidential it don't work for everybody I had a i Chris Christie right if I was running his campaign I say little Chris that's what you have to do from now until next year people have to see you get in shape can't just say run Christy run you have to say America we need to get in shape like you have to use you as an example of America yeah and you gotta take a picture shirtless and say this is America now yeah you know this is where we are you know I mean but on my campaign Trail I'm gonna whip us into shape and as you're on the campaign Trail they see you getting in the shape I don't care if you got I don't care if you got to go to the surgery you know what I mean I like that but people need to see you getting in shape so by we're in August Now by August of next year yeah [ __ ] start seeing like damn Chris Christie really lost some weight you know what I mean yeah he got to do it because he is the Charisma he is the Charisma to do it and I experience I'm not sure about his policy he's just so anti-trump he's been coming at Trump any chance he can get so it's like he used to be on trunks dick yeah but after they went at each other now he's like every chance he gets he tries the best Trump so now God damn people won't that's not [ __ ] real he can't nah that's how he dresses bro he dresses like the [ __ ] he's sitting on a wall he looks like a [ __ ] sectional he looks like he looks like I can buy him out of Ikea yeah he looks like four different versions of one [ __ ] yo yeah like what the [ __ ] oh my God doesn't he look like all the towns people couldn't put him back together Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall he does look like that man see I can't vote for nobody like that so he got to get it you know you got to get it chapped down yeah yeah man if you can't look down and see your dick how are you going to see the rest of the country you can't you know what I'm saying like you can't no no no no no but yeah I just think that the Republican party has it's time to move away from Trump let Trump go handle his business like yo Trump like I said if you around in four years you come back but you got to go sit the [ __ ] down right now like this is ridiculous night yo I ain't never seen somebody have 91 criminal charges that's a that's I've never seen that in my life yeah for anybody 91 a significant amount what do you think Chris obviously guilty but I'm very concerned they won't stick exactly and it'll come out of it stronger you don't think so when do the feds the feds don't make mistakes like that though when did when do you when do you ever see the FED they got a 99 conviction rate this is the one percent and it's gonna be I mean to me it's almost irrelevant because it's broke we've broken the system and there's no putting it back together again it is if you make him get the [ __ ] out sit down if if he goes to jail and but people his supporters are never going to believe it anyway so the we let this guy into the system and we're going to realize in about two or three years what a nice system we had and now we've [ __ ] blown it up and everyone is like oh we need to hit reset oh we needed to reset the board we're gonna see actually we had it pretty good here's the thing if you're if you're a person that believes all of this is politically driven and politically motivated you're probably right but the reality is if he didn't give them anything to latch on to we wouldn't be in this situation this is how you know President Barack Obama had to be one of the most law-abiding citizens ever like like like apparently gay allegedly right but wait wait wait wait wait not allegedly he wrote a letter said he dreams about it he didn't say it why are you upset that you're in president once he actually said it better than that damn it pull it up oh there he actually said it better than that you making it sound nasty was romantic bro bro that [ __ ] you said just now was like vulgar Peace Taylor Gang enjoy your [ __ ] trip with your fake you know imaginary friend okay peace Taylor Gang all right have fun enjoy okay let's see what did he say why isn't this more of a story he said I will love men from this life to the next he's yeah former president Barack Obama wrote of his own androgynous mind and making love to men daily but in the imagination according to the redacted portion of a now notorious 1982 letter obtained by the post these [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] also he's not Gator no but the fact that this girl let that letter go like that's a that should be like uh you should go to jail for that that should be like sharing nudes yeah it's like Revenge that's Revenge point this is actually worse than revenge why would they read now that they have no more use for Brock they're like okay let that letter go oh my God that's the most [ __ ] up thing about this whole thing is they're like okay we don't need Barack anymore so now we'll bury him this is all bets are off for everybody nobody's protected anymore Trump got 91 charges he got four indictments Hunter Biden and all his [ __ ] now it's all bitched off it's like oh we're not protecting each other no more there's no presidential oaf like oh like why were the Democrats who are in power do it to themselves like why would you tarnish I don't know if that came from Democrats did that come from Democrats I'm assuming that they whose control in control of redacting uh documents has now all of a sudden unredacted it well like why you know what you're doing if you redacted it for a reason which they did why would you remove the redaction at any point in time well I could be mistaken but I think it was his the guy who wrote his biography so this was something when he was doing his research for the book he came across this I thought this was a letter he wrote though yeah he was doing his research to write the biography until he saw this he didn't include it in the book at the time and so now maybe he's just trying to you know get a little steam I think that this is all betsa off no presidents are protected anymore everybody's [ __ ] is on the table it's weird you about to hear some [ __ ] that you ain't never ever heard before and you know what's so interesting about this one this is a old rumor this is up there with like Barack Obama's uh his birth certificate [ __ ] like we've always heard these rumors about Barack Obama you never saw those articles about the birth of Defense no like they've been they were talking about this during his Camp first campaign or the second campaign oh the Google It Google craziest rumor right now is you know the craziest rumor right oh hold on yo look almost look at this article hold on man you know the craziest rumor right what you don't know the craziest rumor look what that there's no pictures of Michelle Obama pregnant oh that's old that's old too you know about Big Mike yeah that's oh all of these are oh look this is 2012. what's behind the rights Obama is gay conspiracy uh right that was 2012. Tea Party tea party conspiracy claims Obama's secretly gay or bisexual like they all of that all of these are old so it's the tea party was right I mean listen I was having a conversation earlier this week or last week when this [ __ ] came out and I was saying damn it seems like a lot of these right-wing conspiracies are starting to come true but they're not really conspiracies these are things that clearly somebody there's some wild [ __ ] coming out and you about to hear more you think bro this [ __ ] with Hunter Biden is nuts we've been known that they've been protecting Hunter Biden the whole time they protecting Joe Biden the whole time that's over bro protection put it like this there still is going to be media protection but all of these stories are coming out you're about to start hearing someone with really wild [ __ ] over the next couple years what do you think is behind us no not you you think they know you know who the [ __ ] I'm who am I yeah who am I PD China [ __ ] not me what do you mean I'm not pro China no but you are Chinese [Laughter] you got that from the motherland heat on the feet he does let's do some um oh man oh oh man rest in peace to the god Clarence Avon man man if y'all know anything about me y'all always hear me say I have four Inspirations four Idols when it comes to this entertainment thing it is Petey green rest in peace to Petey green it is Arsenio Hall it is Sean Jay-Z Carter and it is Clarence [ __ ] Avon man Clarence Avon born in Greensboro North Carolina raised in Climax North Carolina became one of the most influential people not just in music and politics in film and sports if you don't know anything about the uh the black Godfather man you need to go watch his Netflix documentary called the black Godfather man and you know it's one of those ones right where it's like I thank God that I had the privilege and honor of sitting down and having a long long lunch with with uh with brother Clarence a couple of years ago um because it was something that we were supposed to do before covid but then covert hit and then after covet hitting the World opened back up you know we um we got to kick it at the the Polo Lounge in L.A and it was a great great lunch I'll never forget that day man and we had we had a a a a long three four hour conversation and that [ __ ] it would have went longer than that if I didn't have to go do [ __ ] Bill Maher that day but yeah man there's nobody clearance it wanted the all-time leader in assists wow Watch the documentary and people in position the all-time leader and assists everybody from like if you go watch this documentary you tell me who else can get Bill Clinton Barack Obama uh you know your favorite celebrities to all be on one documentary talking about the greatness I know how to get Barack there put a [Laughter] man how they making them go out like this that's [ __ ] up I don't think he's going on like nothing all you got to do is not ignore it is that all ignore it nobody's going to nobody's gonna sit with him in an interview and ask him about that letter I'll ask him [ __ ] I'd be like did you imagine anything today what was your imagination like today all right okay what what what what's going on you're gonna go straight and not come back [ __ ] you play it you walk outside you'd be like who the [ __ ] is flying these drones you know what I'm saying you're like what the [ __ ] all right bigzo 509 says if it was a Civil War which side Andrew fighting on come on bro you already know y'all already know we ain't got no guns bro we need to be with the boys back in the day oh now now what y'all fighting for these pink haired lesbians or you want to fight for real America yeah it depends what we fighting what depends what the Civil is that's exactly you know what I'm saying more about like every teacher has to be a drag queen yeah I'm gonna sit down one up um now if you say every teacher needs to be paid you know seven figures a year we can go to war for that we're going to war I'm going to war for that wait on which side the teachers my mom was a public school teacher damn bro it looks like we've been fighting against each other no teachers should really be some of the highest people the way the teachers teachers get treated criminals yo teachers get treated criminally man teachers should be making at least as much as doctors and lawyers bro at least man like like first of all not the fact not even just the fact that they got a [ __ ] you know teach your kids they gotta deal with your little musty ass children every day yeah you know what I'm saying like literally we drop our kids off for seven eight hours a day with this one adult I'm a dad of four yeah you're not stressful that [ __ ] is now you one teaching you got to deal with 20 kids yeah that you don't have no emotional connection to and you 20 that's the best case scenario 20 white Chris 20 is best case scenario 20 is better exactly and you never wanted to be there what do you mean like I would say the vast minority of teachers actually wanted to be teachers I think they start off wanting to be teaching no nobody starts off want to be teacher they just they think that they're too educated and too smart to do like a working class job like be like a plumber or be an electrician so they if there is a working-class job yeah but they think that they're too educated to be a plumber an electrician or a garbage man so they're like I will do this other working class job that has like social credit and appreciation even though it makes less than those jobs I think it's a passion you have to have to be a teacher the great teachers have the passage if the majority of them do it because they don't know what they want to do in their life so they're like okay I'll go do this thing that people respect but then they resent the fact that they're doing this thing that they don't love they're not interested in and they're getting paid nothing for now I want really tricky I think I want the record that's not a fact that's Andrew's opinion and that's what really this is about I don't think people think they're necessarily above those other type of jobs I think unfortunately for a lot of people and it's true it's a union job that's cushy and once you get in you can't be touched and I think the unions are a large part of the problem and you know that might not be popular to say listen here's the reality of the day right you nobody should spend two hundred thousand dollars on a master's degree to make forty thousand dollars a year like you have to be to do that public school teachers you're not talking about I'm talking about public schools I'm talking about public school teachers they're not spending 200 for a master's degree what is a master's cost depends where you go to college if you go to state school it doesn't cost 200 Grand what does it cost what does a master's cost at a SUNY at least 75 Suny Albany well at least a hundred I think it's minimum one hundred thousand dollars it's a good question I don't really know you got to be at least 100. so bare minimum 100 000 to make 40 Grand a year doesn't make any sense yeah I don't like it either that's why I said to most teachers man the teachers that I know that to Andrew's point there are two types of teachers that I've met my mother was a public school teacher plus I know a lot of other teachers there's people that are very passionate and it's the best when you're with them and they [ __ ] change your life I've had absolutely changed my literal life transformed it yes absolutely I can salute to people like Maggie Olson out there in Milwaukee salute to people like uh you know uh principal Stacy shells like these are people that I know love the education Mr Davis Mr Appel Mr Jonas yes my life yes Miss Brevard changed mine and she was a librarian you know what I mean like seriously like so I said look how you're a [ __ ] writer you're a New York Times best-selling author but that's all my mom yeah that's all I'm saying like of course you're gonna be drawn to those things so there are these people but I think the majority of teachers that you go deal with in your life unfortunately don't really want to be there I think it's the new ones I I will say the new teachers I've met and I'm not this is not the all teachers because I know that y'all love your job but some new teachers I've met really are just like I'm quitting because I don't make enough money yeah I like my them I have my Summers off and then I stopped going to school at three o'clock yes you know like I get there at eight and I get out at three and I have my whole Summers off and I get uh health insurance and I get benefits and I do all these things and yeah it's it's there's some protection I think which is what Chris is saying but yeah clearly we have a flawed system where we're not paying them enough to get the ones that are the most brilliant at teaching which is an art those people may be going to teach elsewhere do other things Etc I just don't even want to be in the profession don't make enough money you can't reward it but it's only about 15 grand to get a masters at SUNY system what the [ __ ] is so many system Muslims no oh like why would you like 15 that's just New York though yeah no that's true but it's just a small City College that's they call it CUNY or SUNY SUNY not CUNY SUNY sleuth all the teachers out there though man most private schools I am Travis Rich says has success drove people away from you that you were close with uh yeah what the [ __ ] what about you shows has success driven me away from people that what no has success or has success drove people away from you that you were close with has success drove me away from people that no has success drove people away from you that you were close with no Lucky Bastard no that I was like my real friends yeah or like people your friends in the entertainment but you're not really friends your your kind of colleagues because you all have like a mutual goal the beauty of what you got is that your friends realize who you are what you are what you do and they've all rallied around you and put themselves in different positions to help this whole Enterprise grow which is very rare there's only a few people I see with it salute to LeBron James and his team you know the Mavericks and the rich Pauls of the world salute to Kevin Hart and his team salute to Jay-Z and his team I have not seen it any other way and I would be lying to you if I told you I wasn't envious of that when a man especially men because you know I have that kind of team but it's a lot of the women in my life you know what I'm saying but when men can say that's the guy yeah we don't do what he does yeah but that brother has a talent that can help all of us grow and help this whole Enterprise grow so we go we're gonna rally around that man when you see that it is unbelievable Unstoppable I envy anybody who has that somebody like just hilarious my good sister just hilarious I tell her that all the time she got that you know what I'm saying because it's her sister you know Nye and it's her cousin London you know it's her her man Prince her best friend Prince you know what I mean like these people you know yeah I love it I like I love it I'm just lucky my friends are talented you know what I mean because there you could have friends that are not talented and you you want to work with them you want to but it's just not going to work and you're not going to get there but no I'm just very fortunate that like my friends are brilliant and then so working with them is one very easy they get to thrive they get to be successful and through their success they're helping me achieve the goals that I have I'm incredibly lucky and they're not entitles no you know what I'm saying they're not entitled to anything because I saw this clip that uh it was 50 Cent I think he was talking to drama we can actually insert it I saw him talking that he was saying that you pray for success but you don't pray for the jealousy the envy and the entitlement you know that comes along with being successful and he was like yo you can have your you can have your guy who've been your guy forever and you'll be you you know you buy my uh a house and he'd be like why you ain't buy me this house yeah you know what I'm saying you know it's like I get it I totally understand it man so you know that's the tricky thing man that's why it's great when everybody like eats what they hunt man I think that's the healthiest form I absolutely agree because everybody feels incentivized by the success that's right and like and don't try to do what the person you're close to is is doing yeah I'm saying I think that's you know my first book I talk about how you know I got to got a chapter [ __ ] your dreams if it's not your dream because a lot of times we see things working for other people yeah and we like oh that's what I should be doing too but the reality is no it's not you got to go figure out what is good for you to be doing hard for people bro it's so [ __ ] hard you you're so [ __ ] right because you're going to spend the rest of your career chasing and you'll never be as great at someone else's dream as you will be at yours and you're not even trying yeah like dig deep in that [ __ ] butthole and try to figure out what's in there for you I'm serious man like like what is what does God have planned for you yeah you know what I'm saying and guess what if you do have a a entity around you yeah that you can look at and be like man you know because of this person I have proximity to this and I have access to this and like you know if I did start doing this then it would be kind of easier because we know these xyzd people like figure that out too yeah I don't have to use me yeah I have no problem just don't misuse me you know what I'm saying but I have no problem being used if you can't be used you're useless man 100 you know that chasing success it's a very tricky thing man I had a thought this morning talk to me because I'm working on my new book uh and I I had a thought this morning about how I don't even like the term chasing because you don't have to chase what's meant for you you don't have to chase greatness you don't have like none of none of us have truly chased like you didn't chase wanting to be one of the biggest stand-ups in the world it was going to happen for you all you had to do was stay the course yeah work hard work hard and and whatever whatever Pace you were at like running running is not gonna make you get to that destination any quicker like there's nothing you shouldn't have to chase anything that is yours if I'm chasing something I'm trying to catch it because it's [ __ ] trying to get away yeah it's almost just like it's like the more authentic you can be and you're like art or your creation is uh the closer you'll be to achieving those dreams you know we had jelly on flagrant he's had a really interesting thing he's like you know I was writing all these songs but there was like a disconnect right and it was like he has this fun-loving exterior but deep down is really sad so he tried to write fun loving songs because that was the exterior and then he tried to write songs that were sad but with a fun-loving exterior so he's writing fun songs about sad [ __ ] and there was still a disconnect and then he wrote how he actually felt he was pure and honest because a lot of times our personalities are defense mechanisms for what we feel inside you know what I mean like you are an anxious dude so you developed this amazing sense of humor to calm everything around you right you can control the environment with it I'm sure it's part of the reason why I've developed a sense of humor right it's just like how do I control what's going on and like when you get to create authentically look at how the people gravitated to it he just threw the video up go and there's literally a comment on the video that's seven years old or however many years old it is and it says hey was thinking about uh Hey tried a little something different let me know if you guys like it maybe put on the album question mark like no the biggest song he ever had wow right wow and it's you're right it's like I I think that's one issue I have right now with the social media generation is that it almost feels like there's a Chase for Success on views and there's a little bit of a removal from chase chasing your art or your authentic way of expressing yourself and if views and clout are the thing they're kind of devoid of Art in a way yes and you don't need to you don't need any Talent you just do the wildest you set yourself on fire exactly I'm gonna set myself a fire I'm gonna jump out of a building I'm gonna run into a store with a bicycle and break the window and in my experience I'm always drawn to the artist and I've seen people who I thought were like really good artists like and by Art I don't mean necessary painting it could be music it could be uh philosophy it could be comedy whatever and I've seen them kind of Chase the algorithm or chase the success or chase whatever and then kind of leave their art a little bit in that Pursuit and um it's yeah it's one thing that I I hope that they eventually readjust because the people who have careers are always maybe chasing is the right word but always trying to be pure and authentic in their Creations it's something yeah no the the people who are authentic are just trying to be they're just because they only know how to express that one thing that's right because what you said about jelly roll as well what you said about jelly roll is what so many of us creatives go through because when you're in this industry this industry won't let you be it just won't let you be who you truly want to be in whatever moment people trying to make money off you today that's right yo remember when that happened that caused you to do this and that called that so we need more of that and it's like ain't that no more yeah yeah you know what I mean so you got me chasing something that has ran away from me already and if you listen to them too much oh my God creating inauthentically and then I've seen people end up doing an impression of themselves where it's just like hello yeah you know what I'm saying yeah I became a character Joe myself interesting and that [ __ ] was corny to me it was funny to us though yeah no when it was real when it was real like like when you watch me talking by the way you'll still get that right if I'm talking I'll like when you see me talking to Magic Johnson yeah yeah but if when you first got the information did you ever say to yourself it was that nasty [ __ ] from Sacramento who did that well you I've been wanting to ask him that my whole life yeah yeah it's coming out you know what I'm saying like that's authentic yeah yeah like the other [ __ ] might be funny but it's like that ain't real I can look at myself and be like boy I was really really I ended up you know what I'm saying yeah so and that's what I'd be trying to talk to these youngsters about is that man the reason there's nothing like inspiring in that space right now is because everybody's doing the same thing and nothing is rooted in who these people really tell them to pursue the art just say hey pursue your art like find a craft and then try to pursue do that with the most authenticity you possibly can and that's going to be scary and it's going to be much harder it is going to be way harder right because you're probably in Uncharted territories whereas these other things have already been kind of crafted people have done them so you go oh I can just kind of replicate what they're doing right that's that's not even close to as scary as creating authentically as you are but one you owe it to yourself two and two if you have fans you owe it to them you got to keep pushing that's right you gotta the album's got to look different they got to feel different they don't got to be different you got to keep pushing and the people if you're pushing authentically I believe that if they truly [ __ ] with you and they know that you're being pure they'll [ __ ] with that people people can see through the [ __ ] that's why I say uh you know I get it when you're young and you're trying to figure it out the [ __ ] that bothers me when I see old [ __ ] doing that [ __ ] because it's desperation it's desperation it's like bro you look desperate as [ __ ] like if I don't care who online is telling you that you falling off I don't care who online tells you they don't [ __ ] with your podcast you don't let those people dictate your emotion or your movement you're not the problem you can't fall off if you're creating authentically in my personal life if you're an artist if you're an artist if you want to do art you cannot fall off you create authentically because there's always going to be somebody that [ __ ] with you I I think we live in this world because of social media everybody wants to have the positive algorithm and they want a whole bunch of people saying how much they love them that's not how this [ __ ] is designed this [ __ ] is designed for you to go on your phone and for people to tell you how much of a piece of [ __ ] you are so the reality of this situation is choose who chooses you yeah I choose to [ __ ] with who chooses to [ __ ] with me yeah I don't care I don't know if I don't know if that's a million people are a hundred thousand people I just know that there's a core group of people who rock with Charlemagne and the easiest thank you and the easiest way to find that is just by creating authentically that's it because if you put out there in the world that's it who you are that's it and the people that like that that's it are gonna be the people that [ __ ] with you yo every time everybody used to say on the podcast with Brian they just the thing I used to hate was when everybody like when people started coming into our world because we have cultivated yeah a space like brilliant idiot listeners know each other yeah we we have a conversation when we see each other it's a Vibe same thing with Breakfast Club listeners we have curated something that isn't for everybody yeah it might have a big Mass audience yeah but it's not for everybody and I don't want it to be for everybody because it's supposed to yeah oh the dog's gonna be the [ __ ] that ruin the party yes and you'll be like who invited this person yeah I don't want that [ __ ] man yeah good question what do you guys say to the young creative who because like now with social media things kind of change where it's like people can just get famous by being a personality like they like they don't you guys keep stressing oh be authentic to your art but like nowadays artists so like the lines I think people are I think you find out if you're more addicted to attention or addicted to art and the people that are more addicted to attention will do whatever Garner's attention and the people that are addicted to their art whatever it is dude if it's editing videos if it's singing if it's calm it doesn't matter what it is the people that are addicted to that are always going to try to push that change it do something more pure more authentic do something they've never done before like put themselves in a scary position try to find out what they're really truly motivated by at that time in their life and express it and the people that are just addicted to the attention oftentimes might be great at the art but what they will easily do is gravitate away from that art and then do more and more of the attention seeking things yeah Andrew is absolutely right man and you said we all want attention too don't get me wrong I just think that if if you care about the art you want the attention for the for the art and that's what Alex I get so happy that's right sorry like there'll be moments that we've had over the years years and years of Clips coming out where like it will be this it'll be this like perfect lob set up punchline dunk and it's like that's a decade of podcasting together to the point where you even know where your friend is going to me that's art it's like playing basketball it's like I know you're gonna cut to the Lane you don't even gotta look at me dime that's right and to me when we post that and then people love it that's the most satisfying even when they pull up old clips in the old clips I got Sheryl Underwood sent me a clip right yeah yeah and I I replied to Cheryl this is my podcast [Music] what are you talking because Cheryl always sends me clips via DM like should she be laughing at yeah and I'm like this is us yeah yeah oh the Soulja Boy thing remember like that was like a three minute four or five minute bit that we would just [ __ ] hit hit hit hit and it wasn't even the funny part is the clip wasn't even it was funny but it was actual thought provoking like which most brilliant stuff is if she hit me it's like what do you think of this and I'm like it's you talking about why you think the word African-American is oppressive yeah and I'm like sure this is our this is that's what we do it you know but what Alex was saying Alex said that people want to be famous that's the problem if that's your mindset if your mindset is I want to be famous I want to get views you know I want to go viral that's not that's not an artist's mindset yeah that's not what an artist is thinking don't get me wrong we all want success and we all we all want those things to happen to our art and don't get me wrong we've all done [ __ ] shows that we were like this is an art like we've done some [ __ ] back in the day on MTV where it's like this is an art like you try to be as artistic as you can maybe in it but you also want success you want fame so I relate to those things but once you get into a position you know that we're in we're like we have the choice yo you don't got to write a book [Applause] but you see keyword it's like you say once you're in the position that you're in 100 like a lot of these younger people and famous was probably the wrong choice of words it's more like hey as a creative they want to make a living being a creative yep and so they're all just trying to find or make their way and so it's like that's why I feel like I agree with everything you guys are you saying but it's like I never sacrificed my stand-up like I I never once was like and that's why I was never on TV for stamp early on because they were like you can't say these things on [ __ ] Television right but I ne that was the thing that I was like I'm gonna do this in the most pure way I want to do it because that is that's my baby that's my art and then finding doing other things doing MTV shows doing podcasts right where I end up falling in love with podcasting but even doing MTV shows where I was like this ain't my art but I'm gonna try to do it as close to as authentic as I can even though there's gonna be limitations on it and I have to be okay with that because I also want success I also want a family that I can provide for like I think we were just young too yeah when you're young We're Young and listen you should take advantage of all opportunities we would fight we would fight for like things absolutely absolutely absolutely but I just think we were young and we were taking advantage of opportunities and we were listening to people who did have our best interests yeah you can't act like a lot of those a lot of those Executives at MTV had a lot of our best interests they did and it worked out and it did it worked out yeah we've had some great TV careers you know what I mean um the only thing I would say is that when it comes to Media everybody literally is doing the same thing and I think that there's so many different uh Realms of of just the media game people could be into like I give credit to people who can get on YouTube and not just be the talent be the producer be the editor be the writer you know what I'm saying like they do all of these things right but you might be better at producing than being a talent you might be better at writing than being a talent you might be better at editing than being a talent but you'll never know that because you're too busy trying to be a talent I I listen to a lot of different voices because I do know that the next generation of even radio Superstar is probably going to be somebody from the podcast World somebody from the YouTube YouTube space but I'm telling y'all right now just like I can listen to a lot of radio talent and be like Jesus Christ man it's not a lot of good radio Talent out here it's not a lot of good talent on in those spaces either I don't give a [ __ ] how much you do your show every week you know how the [ __ ] how much you talk they might be talented they're just trying to be something they're not they're not so you don't even know it's like have you ever seen a diamond before it's cut up and looks nice yeah that's what they are so it's just like yo you're not even giving yourself the opportunity to cut yourself up and look beautiful there's there's like there's like a couple of people that I see that I'm like yo that person got something you know what I mean whether it's their voice whether it's their POV I know some people who got the voice and the POV you know what I'm saying I ain't gonna never [ __ ] with you because you talk too much [ __ ] about me but the reality that I'm just playing yeah I'm not playing but I do pay attention but that I can look at some people and be like all that person needs is the right opportunity and the right culture yeah you know yeah and they and they and they out of here you know um find your art yeah pursue it as much as you can there's gonna be limitations earlier in your career and you have to accept those and then as you get more successful be more authentic with your art but if you have an art I'm telling you it's gonna be so much more fruitful your life is going to be so much more fruitful because you see these dudes that like they just Chase attention and then they get all the attention and they still miserable yeah they get all the attention and they're like okay well now I guess I need all the money like and then it's just this never-ending game to try to fill this up because they don't gotta art to fill themselves there's nothing better nothing and putting time that's right into something you're proud of that's right and then people appreciating it that's right oh you know somebody I hope everybody can experience that I agree with life bro I agree oh you know somebody I want to I do want to salute somebody um I want to salute a podcast that I've been enjoying and it is the uh the need to know podcast need to know the need to know podcast I just pulled them up it is save on Alex and Reggie I like what y'all [ __ ] do let me see I like the chemistry I like you know the things y'all talk about the things y'all discuss I enjoy listening to y'all I really do save on Alex and Reggie three youngins called the need to know podcast salute to salute to them and no they're not on the black effect for all you [ __ ] who who think I only uh big up black effect podcast but nah Savon Alex and Reggie the need to know podcast I [ __ ] with y'all shout out to you guys yeah keep doing it don't let me down that's why I don't be wanting this that's why I like the shot because need to know is two old white guys no no no no need to know no need to know podcast yeah save on Alex and Reggie I like I like what y'all do I like the chemistry that y'all have and Reggie is he's in radio I don't know what he does in radio I I just I just hear him talk about he's in the radio space and uh Savon was a producer um I've definitely met him before and Reggie I don't know her background but I just I like that y'all should stay together y'all should stay together as a unit and y'all should continue to grow um whatever whatever it is that y'all are doing that there's definitely something uh there that's with the need to know podcast I I do I I really feel that way um as all if you listen to this podcast smart you think we're intelligent you think we're brilliant you're absolutely right but if you listen to the studio okay you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know [ __ ] you're right too it's the brilliant idiots podcast thank you for listening

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Keywords: andrew schulz, andrew schultz, comedy, comedian, stand up, brilliant idiots, flagrant 2, sports, entertainment, pop culture, commentary, comedy club, near me, jokes, charlamagne, charlemange, breakfast club, interviews, wax, paige, taylor, alexx, alexxmedia

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Length: 103min 38sec (6218 seconds)

Published: Fri Aug 18 2023