Is Being a Pilot Scary? // #51

when I was trading when I was I think I was a private there's this old guy standing in the airport he's a retired Airline guy and I was I was asking him something or telling him something and he was telling me something and anyway it ended up an appointing conversation this old guy looks at me and he's like son I got more time on one engine from the outer marker to the runway that you have completely totaled in your logbook [Music] hi welcome to the pro pilot Playbook yeah I'm Mike Martin and I'm Sean Ritchie yeah and we've got an exciting podcast for you today we're gonna talk about one of the biggest questions we get personally and uh in our career and we've got Sean here who look at him he looks well rested he's he's back from a I I wouldn't even call this a vacation it was a long vacation a sabbatical almost two weeks two weeks where'd you go I was in Hawaii Hawaii for two weeks you know and now you're making me jealous I I figured it out though Mike um you know typically people take the one week vacation right and what what what happens there that day or maybe two days before it's time to go home you start thinking man this is this wasn't long enough I just now started to unwind and relax I need like three more days so that's what prompted the two weeks and of course it takes uh you know that's that's quite a journey to get to Hawaii uh yeah Cincinnati Ohio did you fly there yourself or did you on a trip no uh no we went there via the airlines but um how'd that go good it was amazing and it was definitely a trip of a lifetime you know with the wife and kids and I got this new and see a lot of neat stuff uh but the reason you know I one of the things I wanted to do there was go over to the local airport we were on Oahu Honolulu Okay uh you know the big city the capital and my plan uh before I left was to go over to the local airport and get checked out in a little Cessna or pipe or whatever they had there and take the family up in their plane and fly around the island maybe hit some other Islands fly by some waterfalls maybe a volcano uh I couldn't get before we left the house I kept trying to call these flight schools for a week and uh nobody was answering me there's only one flight school at uh h l at Honolulu and uh they never answered then we ended up we we stated a couple different venues while we were there we ended up over at the Ko Olina Marriott Resort oh it was very very nice Colleen is kind of like the high-end private neighborhood in Honolulu it's very exclusive and Marriott has a resort there Disney has a resort there but there's also housing but anyway there's an airport right next to Ko Olina that has a flight school same story these people weren't answering the phone either I was like leaving Island time man I know so well I think it was so I got to the bottom of it I ended up calling the FBO I think it was an Atlantic okay over it at coalina and The woman there uh who answered the phone had some some Intel for me evidently this flight school was just overwhelmed with customers and students and uh they probably didn't have time to answer the phone or or didn't even care to whatever the the people getting through were the people driving to the airport and you know taking action common theme on this podcast but at that point after getting that Intel I realized it was um probably dealing with something that's pointless because yeah to get on the schedule to get even checked out with an instructor which is what you have to do to rent an airplane you go oh yeah yeah tell them that yeah you can't just it's not like well that's to show your license like it hurts and they give you the plane right right well you know that well this is a great subject I'm glad we accidentally said on this but yeah after you get your private Pilots license that's one of the cool things right you get to take your friends and family up on an airplane ride um right if you're renting the airplane from the school you trained at won't be a problem you just show up and do it but if you're on vacation somewhere and want to rent an airplane or if you go to a FBO or flight school that rent aircraft that you're not uh regular of for their insurance requirements you're going to have to go up in the airplane with one of their instructors just so he can sign you off for their insurance um it's not a big deal uh I've I've done this before after they realized I was a professional pilot it ended up being three laps around the pattern in a Cessna I've also did they recognized you maybe they recognize you from YouTube yeah right yeah I'm sure that's what it was this was years ago though but um but I've also had it the other way where this guy you know he was a real stickler and he didn't care what my credentials were and you know he wanted to go up for the full you know it was an hour and 10 minute flight we're doing stalls and steep turns and you know all this stuff you know some of that may have been the instructor wouldn't get time in his logbook as well which I I appreciate but uh yeah so at that point I kind of gave up on the thing of renting an airplane in Hawaii but it was still an amazing vacation but that that's another hack for you out there folks uh vacation needs to be longer than the standard week I would say yeah yeah perfect what did you do on the airlines what what uh what kind of equipment did you fly out there on uh we went out there on a uh seven six out of where uh this was united we split it up a little bit I was burning some miles um so on the way out there we flew out there on a 7-6 with United Chicago uh we went to it was kind of weird the way it got put together um but uh actually I don't want to get into that but we ended up La is where we where we left from we went I'll just Cincinnati to Chicago Chicago to LA LA to Honolulu on the way there yes yes um that little extra stop ended up saving a lot of it was cheaper to do it that way because I was trying to use miles to get the family out there and then on the way home with Delta it was one of the bigger air buses the uh what is that the 321 yeah yeah yeah yeah 3 30. is it the 330 or the three it's the one that's basically the same size as seven six okay it's a wide body which was nicer uh hmm yeah I'm a Delta guy but that United was very nice they've got it had the new screens in it I don't know if how many of you guys out there Airline but Delta if you're wanting to watch the movies on their system you got to plug in the headphones yeah um to a jack well the new United planes have Bluetooth built into that screen so you can use your air pods you know with the noise canceling and everything that's a game wow that is touching yeah watching the movies they have and when you're out over the ocean unless you have your Netflix or prime or whatever downloaded into your device uh there's no internet out over there right I don't care what kind of airplane you're in um so that that Bluetooth on that screen built in was very nice awesome now there is uh the new Ka band uh broadband satellite-based internet you can get in corporate Jets and it's like uh let's see I don't know it's 450 000 to install in like 37 000 a month for this subscription but it works all over the oh yeah yeah it works all over the world but yeah yeah the airlines for that yeah yeah a lot of people don't know that I think the Airlines use GoGo which is all ground-based so as soon as you get over the water uh uh actually I heard it's the old cell phone towers they turn upside down uh whatever the last generation on top of the tower so it goes up I I don't know maybe some of the old comment that's a I.T guy that understands that but yeah that's awesome man well cool we don't want to digress too much but yeah I did want to hear what kind of planes you're on so so the podcast today I think is going to be a good Pilot's scary yes yes and and you know the idea for this came up uh we have tons of ideas and tons of emails on what to do uh but you know someone emailed us about this and uh just as Sean and I were talking about topics it's something that I mean as a pilot a non-pilot will ask you maybe once a week or something it happens a lot but it's either there's a several variations of this question uh is it scary to be a pilot or they'll say is it have you ever been really scared up there or or how often are you scared there's the old adage of being a pilot is hours of boredom separated by moments of sheer Terror but right uh but you know uh in general it's very safe it's not an extremely stressful job there's excellent training and we'll get into all that um but but just to cover this topic uh for those interested there are times if you do a career as long as our ourselves uh that you know you're gonna get a little ah wow that's that this is exciting uh I better uh sit up straight uh here and figure out what's going on so uh uh Sean I'm sure you've had those moments what comes to mind for you yeah so um well just to go back to what you're saying it just happened right before I left on vacation the day before we went to Hawaii I had to do a trip we took some people down to St Martin and you got scared yeah no but we are sitting in we're in the citation sovereign the passenger comes up sticks their head in between us in the cockpit and so we've been seeing water for a long time where's the nearest land and I'm like uh it's about a little under 400 miles that way you know the passenger was like you ever get scared up here I mean like what if something happens and uh so it does happen all the time that question gets asked yeah right and yes and there have been times in every Pilots if if they tell you no it's I've never been scared I guarantee they're lying to you yeah I don't know because that's that's kind of part of the purpose of of why we do all the training we do and uh you know I can remember when I was working uh going through my instrument training I was I went up to a school in Minnesota and it was a school you know that were it was a type of school that we're always telling people to chase down right it accelerated training it was a 10-day instrument course oh yeah so in this type of training you're flying all day every day if you're not flying you're sitting in front of a computer studying something or actually back then it was more of a book there was no computer but uh or you're in the simulator um you know a little Frasca thing but uh you're flying in real weather and the day of my check ride we had some whether it was winter time when all this was going on so now the weather turns into possible icing you we had to be very careful with the icing where the freezing uh level was you know if you're flying around at 3 000 feet or you're going to be picking up ice on the wings of this little Piper with no ice protection you know you're great you're grounded that screws you up but it was my actual check ride and it was night time wow it was a night check ride by the time the oral was over it was already dark it was winter time so it probably got dark before five The Examiner I mean I'm look I'm walking out here out on the ramp pre-flighting I'm like man I don't even know if we're gonna fly this isn't looking good The Examiner had no cares whatsoever we we went and flew and halfway through the maybe three quarters away through the ride uh we started picking up a little bit of Trace ice wings um so we we lowered altitude got rid of it it was fine we continued the ride but on our last approach this was going to be the end of the check ride we went through a layer and it was all IFR my my actual instrument check right oftentimes guys are wearing foggles or um you know the glasses a few limiting devices it it some of them are a hood that comes down over your eyes so you can only see the instruments of the airplane and not out the windows um some of them are like a pair of safety glasses that have you know this part fogged out so you can only see down right but anyway that's what most people wear on their check rides I didn't have to do that because it was real instrument conditions and uh we we picked up a significant amount of ice on that last approach me as a young pilot with very little hours I was I was actually getting nervous because that's all you hear about all these ice related you know crashes and stuff the exact The Examiner didn't care he was fine but I can tell you this by the time we landed I mean on Final Approach that little Cherokee Warrior we were in Piper 160 160 horsepower we were almost at full power to maintain flight by the time we touched down unbelievable man you know when you're picking up ice you know you're losing performance in several different ways you know the wing isn't creating lift as much yeah uh weight yep you're getting heavier and you're increased not only is your lift diminishing but your drag is increasing um so you got all kinds of problems working against you I've heard of guys getting it over the intakes on those planes for the engine and you know you could end up running into Engineers that's the other thing yeah the four things that make an airplane fly the four forces of flight you got power lift drag and weight every one of them are diminished even the power because the propeller is picking up ice too not right much thrust or the intake yeah your carburetor could freeze up that kind of stuff right anyway that story took a little longer than I thought it would but no no that's great that's the time I was scared in an airplane for sure yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I hit a few of those um early not a few uh one in particular I can remember you know we had the same thing in Cincinnati during the training you you'd have sometimes in the winter here you'll have 20 days in a row of IFR conditions and you know if the surface temperatures 30 uh you can't fly you know so when it got up to 40 or something you know guys were always trying to fly and you know the standard temperature lapse rate is two degrees per thousand feet but that can vary based on whatever atmosphere conditions so you're like well it's 40 on the ground uh that should give us you know several thousand feet of uh uh uh below freezing temperatures let's go fly but then right after takeoff you know the temperature drops because there's some sort of issue with the atmosphere and then you know guys are you know picking up ice and it's it's extremely scary you know um yeah yeah I had um I had that I had uh one of the major ones in my career where it was pretty uh uh frightening was um uh actually in the Jets um uh we we had uh I can remember this is about 20 15 or 20 years ago when I was flying Charter um we were doing a trip uh uh picked up an NFL player I think a running back in Atlanta uh at the one of the satellite airports Atlanta Peachtree real nice neighborhood outside of Atlanta and I can't remember where we're going probably New York or something but we positioned there we landed it was in the year 60. and uh it was you know winter and it was raining like ungodly rain um so we we positioned an hour prior we had to get fuel so the airplane's out on the ramp it's just getting soaked I mean miserable it's like 40 degrees Fahrenheit uh we got umbrellas going back and forth to the plane all this stuff uh the pastor shows up I was not the captain this is you know 20 years ago I was a first officer but I was flying and uh uh we load them up everything's great go to taxi torrential downpour taxing um and we get it's kind of odd in Atlanta but we get a very good uh unrestricted climb so a lot of times at these busy airports they'll have you level off you know 3 000 feet and then they step you up to 8 000 and then you keep going whatever the time of day whatever the weather um they just wanted us out of there so um you know they cleared us like 15 000 initially and uh the uh the earlier 60 now there's newer jets that were um are even more powerful but at the time that was one of the uh the best climbing corporate jets made you know really high yeah 60 was uh it was a monster it was like a muscle car man big engines little plane you know yeah yeah pratts on there big pratts I think 305a so uh so I mean I'm I'm in like a rape date I mean we're coming out of there you know five thousand six thousand feet a minute um through the weather and uh you know one of the things you try to do when it's raining like that is you try to climb quickly because you may be able to get on top of the weather uh the sun sun may come out you never know so we're we're climbing through maybe you know 15 initially and that's fine everything's fine then they start bringing us up to 20. we're still in hard IFR we can't see anything uh in and out of the rain um and then um all of a sudden you know I have the autopilot engaged in the climb the autopilot kicks up true I'm like oh that's that's weird you know uh so but it happens sometimes there's a glitch or something like that so then I just reach up and re-engage it um um and there may be some comments I probably should have tested some things first but I think [Laughter] I mean sometimes you just hit hit it with your arm arm or something yeah yeah yeah I'm not thinking anything's wrong so I re-engage it and uh you know it's on for another minute or so and it kicks off again I'm like what the hell you know so I start hand flying the plane and uh I realized quickly the the fly controls won't move I mean they're Frozen um uh the ailerons right I got Pitch control but the right and left on the on the Yoke I'm like hey hey wait a minute what was jammed we got a jam and uh uh uh you know I'm trying to move the Yoke I can't um the the captain was on the radio as he immediately asked to level so we're still in the clouds so we we level off uh in the planal level uh but we can't steer the aileron so I transfer the controls to him he's trying he's like no we got a jam the ailerons are jammed and uh um so um we we we we're trying to assess the situation where hand flying obviously can't use autopilot at all this is jammed and all that um he's trying I'm trying on my side he's trying his side um we did realize you could steer with the um with your feet because we have a Rudder right so um that's a backup it's it's not real pretty but it'll turn the airplane so we're steering with our feet and uh you know uh we're like something's wrong and we thought it was a jam control service there's cables and a lyric 60 it's not hydraulic so there's cables that go out to pulleys just like any of these guys doing a flight train on assessment exact same system so cables and pulleys you the the power of you moving the Yoke actually is what moves the ailerons so um uh we're like the the cables must Jam something got loose or something a pulley or something and this is bad so um we declare an emergency and you know when you ever have problems with your flight controls or whatever you know we tell them it's a big deal right and they I don't even know if they suggested it or we suggested it but the Atlanta Hartsfield has the longest runway so we declared an emergency they give us priority handling it probably delayed a bunch of airline flights uh probably Delta going in there but they start giving us vectors back down and around for the approach into Atlanta at this point the captain's flying now uh obviously because it's an emergency and he has a lot more experience in mind actually Great Captain who's now uh uh a major airline captain now uh I still keep in touch with but you know we were both very nervous but in the passengers I I think that they couldn't tell we told them we were having an issue at the plane and we were heading back I don't know that they realized it was Jam controls or whatever manner that needs to be you know yeah yeah yeah yeah so we're steering with our feet and uh coming around big wide vectors um uh we get lined up on Final Approach so now we're descending down and it actually was it stopped raining at that point I believe it was light rain we could see the airport um and then um uh um we could see they rolled the equipment so all the fire trucks they got rolled out on all the taxiways and everything and then uh uh yeah so when we were maybe at 3 000 feet or so maneuvering on the approach we were getting we were able to turn a little bit to the left uh you could move it just a little and then the airplane would go left but it wouldn't go right and all that stuff all of a sudden it just breaks loose and the flight controls start working again we're like oh man this is great you know so now whatever was jammed is unjammed we're thinking and that's great so we land unevently um the fire trucks come to meet us we tell the tower you know everything's fine we just want a taxi to maintenance so we let the pastors off they send another plane to get the passengers of course and they're grateful that we made it back and then uh the mechanics come inspect it and what we found out was it actually wasn't a jam at all mechanically so there's these seals that um on the ailerons on the wings that go they're called Gap seals and they're on where the ailerons meet the wing on the sides they put a uh felt it's uh I don't know if it's like a brush strip like a brush strip that is a sliding glass door would have yes that's exactly right and that that makes sure there's a seal there but still allows the ailerons to move and it prevents any air from getting through the crack on the sides well what they do is those can absorb water so they put a grease on those seals uh that that you know repels water just like like almost like Vaseline or something and um the these weren't greased properly so that allowed under all that rainy conditions water to seep into that seal and then when we were climbing out so quickly the the lapse rate you know I mean the temperature was probably really really cold um it it and the airlines weren't moving much because we were in a straight straight or a uh non-turning climb uh that those seals froze and they froze the ailerons to the wing so we couldn't steer um so yeah um so now you know 20 years later every single time I pre-flight I'm always checking those seals and make sure they look good and they're lubricated correctly on any airplane that I fly you know but uh yeah for for a while it was a very uh exciting exciting day to say the least you know right you know and uh it's stuff like that you know that builds the experience to to you know you want those kind of things to happen kind of it's part of the example in one more story and then we'll get kind of more into the scary when I was a student and pilot um you know before I even had my private Pilots license one of the things you're going to do before you get your private is you're gonna solo you're gonna be signed off to go fly the airplane by yourself that you can't take any passenger or anything this is a confidence building thing built into getting your pilot's license when you start off doing the solo stuff just flying around the pattern doing touch and goes well typically stop and goes taxi back depending on how big the runway is but um typically students don't do touch and goes though solo right but at some point your instructor will Turn You Loose to go out into the practice area and fly around a little bit and then eventually you'll do a solo cross country as part of your training to get your Pilots license and all these things are to build confidence and let you see little issues and you know gain that confidence of of being able to handle stuff and I was on my I did my training my initial private piles training out in South Dakota and I was on my solo Cross Country and this old beat up Cessna 150 and of course every pilot at that stage knows you don't trust fuel gauges in these little airplanes you know you climb up on the wing right if you're a Cessna or if you're in the piper you look in the fuel gauge you know there's dip sticks to check how much fuels in the in the tank and you do everything by how many gallons are in the tank and how long you plan on running that engine that you know already Burns whatever yeah you're right eight to ten gallons per hour right right just to interject for a second a lot of people are not familiar with that because they're like my car has an excellent gas gauge it's sure right and it's way less important to know your fuel level in a car than it is in a plane and they can't comprehend it but it's basically in these older designs these airplanes a lot of them designed the 50s and 60s they didn't have any digital temperature probes or electrical stuff so you know uh it was manual linkage that in the planes were in a highway and up above and over here so there's like linkage that comes down it goes all the way around and they just didn't work right you know you're in turns and things and then the gauge will move and the turns and all of that but yeah yeah that's that's a great point I remember that what we do know about besides the fuel gauges being you know junk in these little bitty old airplanes the engines are you know Prime I mean they are Prim Primula Prim you know constantly being maintenance worked on uh every if it's a flight training airplane every 100 hours they're gone through um just a typical airplane every two thousand hours the engine's getting you know rebuilt so you know at Cruz you're burning nine gallons an hour or eight gallons an hour you know that and some of the bigger small bigger smaller airplanes have gallon per hour gauges and you know how many gallons you took off with but uh as a young student not even have a license yet you know first cross country um I had uh and you you're supposed to land at so many points or whatever I on my way back to Rapid City South Dakota uh from wherever I went um one of the fuel gauges was buried into the E like it was buried like not even you had a fuel gauge for each Wing tank one of them was completely buried past the E and the other was showing like a quarter of a tank bouncing off the e in one quarter and uh I'm like oh my God how did I I must have misjudged something maybe I didn't lean the mixture out enough whatever I'm out of here and I I landed at this little uncontrolled airport out in the middle of nowhere in South Dakota climbed up on the you know tanks looked in there and did the dipstick I had plenty of gas plenty of gas but that scared the crap out of here I told my instructor about this and he's like so you just landed somewhere else and I'm like yeah yeah I thought I was gonna get in trouble you know yeah yeah and he's like oh my God he's like yo that is excellent decision job to know did you I'm like yeah yeah I did he's like well that's what it's all about and that's when I first heard the phrase as a pilot you want your bag of experience to fill up before your bag of luck runs out yes yeah oh my gosh that's funny that's funny my answer to that passenger I was telling you we were down on our way down to Saint Martin um and my answer to her was not really not not at this point my career do I run into that many encounters where I'm scared or if any that I'm scared I run into situations where I'm concerned about something but through my experience and my preparation into whatever flight I'm doing because of my experience and issues I've had in the past I mean that's why you want the guy with a lot of hours he's already seen most everything that can happen yeah my my exact thing I said to her and it was kind of a jovial joking around was I don't know did I mean to put it in perspective did you get scared on your drive to the airport this morning probably not because you've been driving for years right I mean it's the same kind of thing when you first got your driver's license maybe you were a little driver's license didn't exactly Apples to Apples because we all sat there watching our parents drive for right right 16 years before we got our license but still when you first get your driver's license you're out there by yourself you know there are situa you know you pull up to a four-way stop oh my God who who got here first you know there's there's that kind of stuff but that goes away with yeah experience of being behind the wheel of a car and it's it's the same thing with an airplane um I would say if you got a professional pilot at the helm of whatever machine you're in who's constantly walking around scared at everything I don't know that might not be you know as you're saying this I'm thinking about this so that exact situation with the Frozen Airlines and everything so I remember we land and then when you when you go into the um FBO the first thing you do in a situation like that you got to call a chief pilot right it's your operation sure I mean this is a big deal and explain what happened yep so we could get other people involved in the problem yeah and he was great man he's got all kinds of experience and everything so we call them and then I'm listening in it's the captain on the phone and he's explaining hey we came out of here and he's saying what happened uh he's only talked for 45 seconds and I hear the chief go was it raining real hard uh yeah yeah oh yeah real hard yeah when we left it when we left Peachtree it was raining real hard yeah yeah what altitude and then I'm like he's like oh like 28 000 or something he's like sounds like frozen ailerons I've had that before right because somebody would have told us right because John had already experienced or that Chief pilot uh already experienced that situation before he's a player you got it man you got it yep yep but you know for our viewers um you know I think that you know these are these are couple stories that we're giving over a you know 20 plus year career 25 years um 50 between both of us right and uh you know it's we actually had to sit and think about it before you know right because these stories are years and years old 25 years old stories yeah yeah um but the other thing to put in there Mike don't forget about the other reason why your professional Pilots you know really don't get to use the word scared don't get worried about as much as don't forget every six months to one year we're sitting in these machines in a simulator where they purposefully are drained hydraulic fluid reservoirs setting engines on fire making control controls jam up in a simulator in a simulated environment where we can in these new modern jets you know in that situation if you couldn't get it unjammed we can separate the controls we can unlock the controls from each other and separate the yolks that's getting detailed but uh they're purposefully doing stuff to us in that training environment to give us the confidence the experience of dealing with these issues in a training environment in a yes ultra realistic training environment these simulators aren't like a I mean they are a big computer game but it's next level like the best crap you know mankind can make uh yes very good type of computer game and with that experience uh that drives out the fear and what's that feels confidence right right yeah yeah and you know like 80 of that training you're on one engine yeah exactly yeah that's that's the old joke I remember yeah and I was when I was trading when I was I think I was a private there's this old guy standing in the airport there's a retired Airline guy and I was I was asking him something or telling him something and he was telling me something and anyway it ended up in a point in conversation this old guy looks at me he's like son I got more time on one engine from the outer marker to the runway that you have completely total in your logbook laughs and it that that is the truth I mean yeah 100 truth because yeah yeah you're flying around on one engine the entire time in training or something on fire or yeah that's right checklist and whatever yeah yeah and it is so real you know especially when they do the visuals at night you almost can't tell that you're not in a real plane you know the Dave Graphics are a little bit like a computer but uh yeah and with the way the motion is and everything and you know every you know they're they're giving you new scenarios and new failures every time you go back so yeah you have seen a lot of a lot of stuff and real world stuff they'll take the stories the guys are having with whatever whatever airplane you're in there to you know do your recurrent training on um well the guy's been having a lot of trouble we had an issue with this so we're gonna be we're gonna be we'll show you that today in the simulator yeah and uh that's that's great stuff it is it is uh yeah but but if you're watching this because you have reservations about you know the dangers of it and and and and all of that I would encourage people that you know it's really not as dangerous as as what people think and uh it's not uh it's certainly not a terrifying job where you're scared to go to work every day or anything like that I could think of a lot more things that more dangerous career paths and you know becoming a pilot oh yeah the I mean if the the basic statistics I don't have it in front of me I used to have this number memorized but uh something about uh if you wanted to be in a plane crash like if it was your mission in life you would have to fly on an airplane every day for like 360 000 years or something [Laughter] and even then if after that crash happened the odds are you would survive the crash or the actual numbers so the statistics are in your favor it's really not that dangerous at all wow man man great well I'm glad we got to do this uh again I want to thank everybody for watching the videos liking the video subscribing to the videos the channel is every week is growing uh you know I know we took some time off and now we're back at it really hard and it's all because of your encouragement uh we love the emails 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Published: Thu Jun 22 2023