Introduction to SMTP Relay for Servers

hello again as you know I'm Eli the computer guy and today we're going to be talking about SMTP relay simple mail transport protocol relay right so a lot of you guys especially as new geeks you guys want to run out there and you want to build email servers I have no idea why you want to buy build email servers or just a colossal pain in the ass but for whatever reason you guys want to run out there you want be like I want to build my own email server it doesn't matter if I can get the exact same quality service for free but I want to build my own right so you're gonna go out there and gonna build your email server you're going to figure out how to set up MX records and all that kind of stuff an email is gonna start coming in you know Bob at Billy Bo Bob calm and you're gonna get all of your emails and then what you're gonna start doing is now that you're receiving emails you're gonna say I want to send emails and so you'll type up your emails and you'll hit the send button and then for some reason nobody will ever respond to you you'll just keep sending out email after email after email after email and nobody ever responds to you and you'll start to feel lonely and you'll be like why doesn't anybody love me and the reason is is because all of your emails have been getting dumped into spam bins right and the issue is uh whenever you're looking at anything in the technology world right you have to look at all the different systems and all the different things that affect you know how things go so when you're receiving emails you have to set up your email server then you have to set up the MX records within your internet DNS then you have to set up port forwarding within your within your router to forward to your email services basically there's all these things that have to be done well when you're sending out email there's also things that have to be done and so basically you have to configure your your your email server to be able to send the email you have to make sure that you're the pork is not blocked sometimes your internet service provider will actually block your SMTP port so sometimes that's blocked and the other thing that comes up is you have to make sure that things like your IP address are not in blacklist for a companies like spam house so so you know you know about spam blockers well the way that a lot of the email the spam emails get blocked is because things like IP addresses are in blacklists and so when it when an email comes in from any of those black lists it automatically gets dumped into the spam bin and so for a lot it's a lot of people your IP address is already in a black list so when email services receive emails from you even though it's a legitimate email it comes from that IP address it's on a black list so it automatically gets dumped into the spam bin or it's not a trusted IP address and then it gets dumped into a spam bin basically a lot of these a lot of these spam blockers you know when in doubt it's spam right and so the issue is you set up your serve when you set up everything and SMTP is working right and all that stuff is working right but you keep getting dumped into the spam bin and so one of the questions is well how can we prevent this how can we deal with this so with Eli the computer guy you know we set up geek brain dump comm and geek brain dump comm is on its own dedicated server with its own mail server installed onto it and the problem was a lot of notifications and a lot of things that had to go out to the users we're getting dumped into the spam bins so about 50% of our emails that went out would actually get into people's inboxes and about 50% would get dumped in the spam bin the reason was is because spam house and all these spam blocking services don't trust our IP address and there was a lot of reasons for it but there it wasn't it wasn't worth messing with making sure our IP address was all squeaky clean it was easier to do something called smtp relay so what smtp relay is is what happens is your email server relays your the message to another email server and then that other email server is what actually sends the email message to the recipient so what normally happens is your email server tries to send the email message directly to the recipient the problem is is when you send directly the recipient that has your IP address attached to it and if the IP address isn't trusted we already went into that whole thing it goes in the spam bin so what happens is you do a relay your server relays the the email message to another server that server then sends the email to the recipient the recipient when it receives the message doesn't see your IP address it sees the IP address of the SMTP relay and goes oh that is a No own good and so it actually receives uh receives a message so that's why you do things like SMTP relay so why you would use something like an SMTP relays if you're going to be using your own if you're setting up your own email server and you don't have to want to worry about maintaining and making sure you're not in a blacklist or anything like that you would use an SMTP relay or again as we talked about before some ISPs block the SMTP port and so you can use a relay you can actually send email messages out on a different port to this through the SMTP server the relay server and then the SMTP sort of relay server will then send the messages out on the appropriate port so when you're thinking about doing an SMTP relay the question then is well how hard is how hard is it to get this service and the cool part with SMTP relay is for the most part is very easy almost all email services allow you to smtp relay to to one degree or another so so GoDaddy if you use a GoDaddy for your email service I know it allows you to do smtp relay it allows you to send up to 250 messages per day basically it's very very very easy gmail allows you to do smtp relay i think they allow you to do up to about a hundred and fifty messages a day so that is basically it's a really easy thing so when you're going to be configuring smtp relay within your server literally all you have to do is you have to give it the SMTP server the username which is user usually your email address and the password and then that's it it's basically it's almost as simple as configuring like an Outlook client to be able to send out through smtp relay so basically like with a geek brain dump we we have an SMTP plugin I added the plug-in I put in all that information and now our WordPress site then sends out all the emails using that SMTP relay but that you can use this for even more powerful server software such as when I used to run an exchange server so when I had Eli the computer guy the computer repair shop and I had all those employees and everything we had our own exchange server well within that exchange server there was actually configuration buried way down somewhere that allowed you to set up an SMTP rely so when you're thinking about SMTP relay this is not like this is not some some low-power thing that isn't used for for for higher power servers you can use this for everything from WordPress sites to to exchange servers and it'll work so like with the exchange server literally all the email that my employee sent would all get routed through that SMTP relay and go out to the world that way basically makes your life really easy now when you're thinking about doing smtp relay one of the things you have to think about is how much are you actually in fact going to use it are you only going to send 100 messages a day or 250 messages a day or more so one of the things we go over to the computer is we are looking at right now is actually using something called send grid so there are smtp relay services out there that you can pay for so you can simply go to get to to Gmail so Gmail you know the SMTP relay service you can go in here and you can use this this for free right but the question is well what if you're going to be sending out 500 messages a day or 10,000 messages a day or 40,000 messages a day right let's say you have some kind of email blast server something like that then you can go and you can actually pay for full fledge SMTP relay services so a companies such as send grid here this is one we're probably going to end up using if you go you can see for $10 a month you can pay for up to 40,000 emails B cents that's a lot of outgoing email so I think for geek brain dump com that should be good enough for us you go up to $80 a month it's a hundred thousand two hundred blah blah blah again this number may seem like a lot like if you're thinking like well a hundred thousand emails for $80 that seems like a lot of money but again remember in the real world technology a geek if your kind of hire a geek as a consultant they're going to cost you $100 an hour plus if you're going to set up your own email servers you need to build the email server and deal with all that kind of stuff so realistically these prices aren't that bad especially if you're a professional and especially down at this $10 month mark I mean you pay $10 a month for an SMTP relay service and you are you're just out of it it just works you don't have to worry about it they worry about the spam house blacklist they worry about all that kind of stuff and you can just send your email messages out now you don't have to use just like company like SendGrid there are a lot of smtp relay services out there I think no - IP work sells them dying DNS I think sells it there's a lot of different smtp relay services so you can go out and take a look at what one you want to use i'm personally most likely we're going to start using send grid because they have some some other cool functionality that it like but that's basically all there is for smtp relay so basically with smtp you relied if you have a server of some sort that is going to be sending out emails again whether it's a full fledge exchange server email the microsoft exchange server or it is a wordpress site that basically needs to send out the emails for things like to activate new accounts and not kind of stuff what the smtp relay then does is it allows that server to send email messages to a dedicated email server and then from there the message will be sent out to whoever the end user is again the reason that you use this is is one things like ports and all that may be blocked but really the big the big one in the the professional world is really this whole problem with things like spam black lists because because keeping up with that is a real pain in the butt so it's nice again you pay the ten dollars a month and then you don't have to worry about that you connect to their relay servers and you just send out the emails so that is smtp relay again one of those simple little things that is incredibly useful in the real world and if you're a real geek and you're going to be setting up servers that have do any kind of communication you should 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look at veem com so the hands-on review today is for the van quests what the hell is this called Maximizer organizer so you guys are going to go out there and you want to get all the fancy tools you want to get little cable cable testers and butt sets and all that kind of stuff but the question is is what are you actually going to put all these things in right you've got scissors and you've got punch down tools and you got testers you've got this and that and the other thing and a lot of you guys are just kind of kind of dump that into your your laptop bag and that is going to be a complete mess now back in the day when I started my consulting uh you know being a consultant as I talked about I used to have a little green bag a little green army uh you know basically mechanics tool bag and I would take that everywhere it's a little small bag not too much bigger than this and I would put all of my stuff in there and everybody used to laugh because I would walk in with my little green bag but then I would fix all the problems and then they would stop laughing because all of the problems have been fixed so this is kind of like a modern version of that little green bag that I used to use and it is actually a very nice bag especially for any of you IT professionals that you have to go in the field because it's very useful for for keeping all of your stuff kind of in place so this is actually pretty well kitted out so let's go over to my little demo desk and I can show you what this thing looks like so they gave me a number of these different bags but this is the one that I've kind of set up for this little demonstration as you can see you know it's about it's a little bit bigger than my hand so it's you know whatever size that is and I've got all kinds of stuff in there so you can put your but set on here again you got a bag on the outside this is the the multimeter and the the cable tester and then if we open this thing up you can see all the other stuff that you're able to shove in here so this is a this is a toner set so you can plug this into your your network cable and tone-tone it out you know we've got the scissors and we've got the punch down tool and we've got the razor knife these are incredibly valuable in the real world then we've got the small screwdriver then we've got the big screwdriver you know they've got all kinds of pockets here so then you could throw in like little USB flash drives or whatever else again I mean like I say when you start looking at how much I was able to shove in here I mean this this is this is a pretty big mass of stuff so so don't think it's a small bag so you could literally you could put one of those small external hard drives in here basically whatever equipment you're using you this this is the normal kit that I used to carry around so with that I mean basically I mean it's built very well it uses I don't know military spec cloth or whatever and I will say having having dealt with military type equipment I mean it is built very well so that's one problem too is you go out and you buy some fancy kit bag and all of a sudden starts falling apart three seconds after you bought it the nice thing with this is I mean you know I'm saying it's it's built well so you're not gonna have to worry about it ripping and going to hell you know you can see out here they've got the you know things so you could secure this to to whatever other kind of bags or whatever else you got so it's it's a pretty good deal so this is the biggest size one that they sent me they also have different versions that I'm not sure how good they are for for the textfield but this is the biggest one and this is the one that I actually prefer because it's got that kind of stuff then there's another big one here one thing to realize if you're going to be buying this van quest equipment is that the different versions have different layouts for these these pockets so when you buy them just make sure what layout of pockets you want so pockets here on the side pockets here on the top you decide whether or not you like that there you go then they have these small ones one of the things that I would say is you're going to be a computer geek buy the big ones again the big one can fit all of this stuff in there these small things I'm not really sure what a geek would use and they're because I mean like I said this is that big I mean if you look at the size difference if it's a really big size difference this is something that I would see from likely my old search-and-rescue days you put in like a little med kit so everybody has your own med kit or little survival kit I could see using that but I wouldn't really see using this in the computer spectrum IT world so just keep that in mind but I really do like the big ones and I say they're nice and they're built very well if you're interested in actually taking a look at these guys no idea where you would normally buy them I guess you would buy them online and you can just go to their website called van quest.com then you go down and these are called the Maximizer organizers and you can see the price so the biggest one that I was showing you was 26 bucks and it goes round to that small one was 15 again I would stay away from the small one I think it's just too small but this 25 dollar one I think is a good deal and you can go and you can see all the information again you know for any of you guys that especially you know you run your own computer computer shops and you have employees I mean this is just a good thing I mean you can put all kinds of stuff into this kit and then just hand that to your employee so you know if you have filled a few of field technicians you can you can stock all this with the equipment they need and just hand it to them and then this is their kit so I really do I think this is a thing that's a good little widget I mean again it's one of those things a lot of you guys don't think about a lot of you guys like Eli it's not a switch it's not a piece of networking equipment but again when you go to a client site how easy is it for you just to sit down pull out your equipment do what you need to do pack up your equipment and walk away I'm telling you it's those little things in life that make you seem cool and will make your life a lot easier so again this is the van the quest the hell's is the van quest Maximizer organizer and again the big one the big one is a thumbs up the big one $26 one is a thumbs up and [Music] again if you're doing search-and-rescue I would buy a small one I don't know what an IT guy would do a small one but the big one I definitely I think it's something that you should take a look at so this question comes from Chris s I was talking with some people on an IRC Network and the guy said that he ran a hundred meters of Ethernet cabling then plugged it into a hub that he used as a repeater and ran another hundred meters of cabling the guy seemed full of it but I was wondering if this would work if it does how well so the question then is is as we all should know when you run in cat5 an Ethernet cable tcp/ip and all that right you should only run it approximately approximately a hundred meters I've heard people run it a lot farther than hundred meters and have it work fine of her people run it shorter than hundred meters and it not work so well that whole hundred meter thing with Ethernet cabling also has a lot to do with your networking equipment again Cisco equipment you can kind of stretch that link a little further than if you're using you know some other piece of crap but basically what this guy is saying is ok so we ran a hundred meters then we connected that to a hub and then we went another hundred meters so can you do that basically act as a repeater and so that that's what used to happen way back in the day with something called a bridge not a wireless bridge you guys are all used to wireless bridges now but way back in the day there was something called a bridge and so what a bridge did is is basically it prevented it basically separated out networks for broadcast storms but the thing with a bridge that was kind of cool is basically a packet went in one side it was then recreated so basically it was copied and sent out the other side therefore you could use it as the equivalent of a repeater because you do 100 meters the packet goes into the bridge it then gets read and recreated and sent out the other side so essentially that next hundred meters it's as if it was a brand-new hundred meter so you could so if you could connect a bridge in the middle to do this so I forget what the hell was like Network ascent networking essentials is the test I took on this and as I recall theoretically you could do this like three times like you could do a hundred meters bridge 100 meters bridge 100 meters bridge it was something like that there was some theoretical theoretical limitation but yeah so the question is is okay well what about if you put a hob in the middle of this and here's the thing basically the question is are you putting an actual hub or are you putting a switch so what is a switch basically a switch is a multi-port break so so that's that's what that's what a switch is is that whole makkad really the whole filtering arp and all that kind of stuff right when you look at a switch that is a multi-port bridge so if you put a hundred meters connected that to a switch and then put another hundred meters on the other side that would in fact work and the reason is because the packet travels along 100 meters it goes into a switch so which reads the information recruit recreates the packet ships it out the other side and therefore it's equivalent a new 100 meters so you could put a switch in the middle 2 2 2 to span more than 100 meters hmm question then comes up is an actual hub most likely not if you're using an unpowered hub probably not a chance in hell right because again remember what is the difference between a switch and a hub a switch actually has brain power it reads the packets it sends the packets out into the specific port it has all that stuff going on a hub all a hub is basically splitter you know like a coax splitter that you would use in your house to to to send the cable signal to different TVs that's basically what a hub is for for cable so a signal comes in on one port and then it literally blasts out all of the other ports there's no brain power it doesn't recreate the packets it doesn't do anything that it just literally splits that out so there something called an unpowered hub that used to be used way back in the day literally is no power to it it's all all the power everything actually comes from the line so if you had a line at 100 meters then went into an unpowered hub there's propaganda Bleen OTT a chance in hell that would actually work there are then it called powered hub so powered hubs are the same thing as an unpowered hub except it actually adds a little bit of power there um I wouldn't want to do it I'm not gonna say it wouldn't work that's kind of one of those where you kind of like scratch your chin and go yeah maybe that would work I mean like I don't want to say it wouldn't work there's no way in hell I would do it there's no way no I would do it and put my name on it but it knows maybe it would work so that would be that would be what I would say so if you are if he's trying to use an unpowered hub in order to bridge a connection I would I would imagine there's no way in hell that would actually work if you use a switch if you use a switch yes that would definitely work if you use a powered hub maybe but again the question then becomes you know what is an actual hub for most of you young folks out there you probably haven't really seen hubs I mean really like when we talk about hubs I have not seen hubs in the real world I mean like hubs in the Rio so I you know I'm saying like the 90s like the late 90s hubs were old you get what I'm saying so he may be saying hub but actually meaning switch hubs are something that that that's very hard to find so I hope that hope that answers it yes in fact you can I say you can do repeaters or bridge networks a hundred meters to a bridge or switch to another hundred meters to a bridge or switch again theoretically I think there's some limitation on that but again a lot of that has to do with your networking equipment you have if you have enterprise class Cisco Networking equipment you can get it away with a lot more than if you have some crappy stuff that you and you know some you know generic thing you bought from China so this question comes from Antonio you hope all is well I was wondering like mobile phone you carry with you the majority of the time I work in IT and FRA teper puces I am noticing that Android has more tools per se for IT related tasks the iOS restrictions currently do not allow for such things as app Wi-Fi analyzer and just small tools which can be an advantage when on the field so question is is what Android or what Android there you go what smartphone do I use when I when I out in the real world and as I will say the the smartphone that I use is the Galaxy s4 so I do use an and droid phone is it because you can have more networking wireless IT type tools absolutely not I actually just like vvb Android phone a lot more uh this question comes up at least for that I see with a lot of new people in IT you know basically you know new people NIT they want all the latest and the greatest and all these fancy cool tools and what I'm going to tell you at least what I found I don't I don't know I don't know how long he's been doing I to your technology but at least what I have found is that realistically at the end of the day most of those those cool fancy tools actually in fact don't get used you know what I'm saying like it's it's you go and you want to buy all these fancy tools and then you buy all the fancy tools and then you find out you don't need the fancy tools because it's absolutely an utterly obvious what's going on like what back when I used to do wireless networking and I had to figure out you know the wireless access points and you know RF frequency and all that kind of stuff you know and you think yeah if I'm going to be installing all these wireless access points I need like Wi-Fi and little analyzers to know exactly what the signal is blah blah blah blah blah what I found in the real world right especially going into buildings in Baltimore because buildings in Baltimore we have thick thick cement walls and thick brick walls and all kinds of weird nasty construction when it comes to Wi-Fi and so basically what I found here in the Baltimore area is you can take your tablet computer you take your laptop computer basically you you set up your wireless access point and you walk through the premises and and basically you see how good your signal is but you know not not using any fancy Wi-Fi analyzers you can just sit there and play around on the internet and see if it's working appropriately and essentially when it stops working you're like huh oh crap I lost my Wi-Fi signal and then you look around and you see a big old three foot you know thick brick wall and you don't exactly need a Wi-Fi analyzer to figure out what's going on you know I'm saying it's like oh look there's a three-foot brick wall in between me and the access point you know what I'm saying so I think that would be my thought here is is I am sure because just just because because Android is a Linux operating system with Linux operating systems more the geeks go to that type of thing I'm sure there are more IT tools for Android and so if you're really worried about it I would say yes buy an Android phone but what I would argue at least from an old-timers perspective is most of these tools they end up not being as useful or as valuable as you think you download all the stuff for the new realize and it's a three foot brick wall III know what's going on here you get what I'm saying so so that's what I would say or again if you really need something like a real wife and that's see that's the problem you get into with this is you're like yeah but what if I really need a Wi-Fi analyzer and it's like well if you really need a Wi-Fi analyzer then you buy a fluke you get what I'm saying it's kind of like one of those like if you're on the in the Android world you know you're using your smartphone most likely it doesn't matter to some people it will matter to but for 99 percent of the IT population if you're using your smartphone to do Wi-Fi analysis it probably doesn't matter a lot if you really do need to do Wi-Fi analysis then you go and you purchase the fluke kind of get what I'm saying so that would be my thoughts yeah if you really if you want more apps for IT buy Android but I would bet you at the end of the day you'll spend 50 bucks on apps and then never actually use them so for the final thoughts for the day I'm going to talk to you guys about my new implementation to start banning people yes that is right eli has finally had enough I have had enough I am a geek you cannot push me any further or something like that so one of the things that you have to understand in business whatever you're going to be doing is that you need to be able to change how you do things every once in a while you need to modify how you do things you need to you need to come up with reasons that you do things and then if that turns out to not work for you you just have to kind of change course in the startup world that's called pivoting but basically in the normal adult world is just kind of told changing your mind and so one of the things that I have decided to do is I have decided to start banning people and basically start deleting posts and all that kind of stuff on YouTube and this is this is a massive change for how I've been dealing with my youtube channel and comments and all this for the past four and a half years the past three years that I've been on YouTube so up until this point up until basically yesterday I have really really really not tried to censor anybody at all basically I ban people very infrequently I delete post very infrequently and the only time that I do is when people are saying things that basically are trying to be trolling above and beyond anything that anybody would be considered normal such as people who do quote quote you know quote unquote Nigar Nigar Nigar and that's like their comment those people need to go away but otherwise um you know I haven't really I haven't really blocked anybody haven't really banned anybody I figured okay it's you know everybody can do whatever they want I am NOT going to try to censor anybody but what I've been finding over time is that I'm just kind of getting tired of trolls I'm just kind of getting tired of troll ish behavior and I just you know what as a successful business person again like I say in the whole video web content creation world now I guess don't want to deal with it anymore like this entire business I'm not gonna lie to you I make a good a very very good salary off of this business but I'm making very good salary off of this business by trying to make your lives better again as I always say I just want my 10% if I can help you make an extra thousand dollars I just want my hundred you know what I'm saying life I can help you make an extra ten thousand dollars I'd like my thousand yes I do want my cut but I want my cut from actually fundamentally improving your life fundamentally improving your position and so you know I get a lot of people I put and that's the thing is all the content I put out for you guys I try to make sure that it is relevant I don't put up cute cat pictures you know a lot of a lot of these youtubers and all these personalities they put up cute cat pictures and they put up like stupid little you know viral stuff and I don't everything that I post to any of my channels has a reason for you may not particularly like the reason for it but it has a reason I post all the stuff from geek brain dump calm because I want to promote you guys I post all my stuff because I want to promote myself there's other things that I add in there and I just do that because I think that it is a very it's useful for you guys and so like yesterday I posted this this video from from a YouTube creator called iJustine now if you ever heard of iJustine let me tell you I just Deanna's like whoa I just dean is who most of us want to be she's got like two million subscribers and makes lots of money and all kinds of wonderful things personally I don't like most of her content I do have to say I I just seen as one of those people that I highly respect I've actually met her before and I highly respect her I just don't like what she does and you know I'm saying you don't have to like but somebody that you do the respect does but it was interesting I was flipping through her channel yesterday and there's this weird little Kees burger video that popped up I was like huh I wonder what this is because it was only like amended in 20 seconds so I was like okay I don't want to watch 10 minutes vide yes name frankly but I'll watch a minute and 20 seconds what I just seen is saying it was about cheeseburgers and basically it was this little video about her trying to order a cheeseburger at a restaurant and going in there and one teenage cheese Brno nging in the door and knowing that she wanted to cheeseburger and then how the waiter kind of like messed around with her like don't do you want to see bass and she's like no I just wanted his burger was kind of like one of those interesting funny things because it is a it is an interesting commentary on the whole sales process where people come to you they know exactly what they want they're willing to write the character willing to give you the money and then somehow you talk them out of the sale or you make them feel unconfident you know what I'm saying like you know a pretty young girl walks in and wants a cheeseburger and then she keeps being asked well don't you want the sea bass or the mahi-mahi and all of a sudden it's like I don't know what do I really want a cheeseburger all right so I posted this just cuz it was a minute and 30 seconds and it was cute and it was fun really was cute and really was funny and it really was a commentary in the whole sales process and then I got some nastiness from it and um and you know I was just sitting there and like one of the one of the one of the comments was like negative one for posting this crap and I don't know what it was you know you talk about those those times in life where things change when things shift and you know how you know nothing after is quite like it was before and I was sitting there and I was thinking about this i esteem post cuz i honestly put that up there because AI thought it was funny and B I thought it was relevant it's not really that funny but I thought it was relevant to the fan base and then I'm looking at this post that says you know or this comment that says negative one for posting this crap and I just sat there I looked I was like you know what you're absolutely right you are absolutely right you you don't need to be bothered with this kind of post at all I completely understand that you should not be bothered by this kind of post at all ban go right and I'm just gonna start doing that more because I I am just tired of the trolls I'm just tired of the nastiness I'm just tired of every single day putting out content greater or lesser extent tries to make your guys's life better and then these nasty little pieces of crap or just like yeah you suck and so just so you know the yesterday things changed and so I am just so you guys know I'm going to be banning people more and more and more and if you swear again like I've talked about this a little bit before like I started banning people a little bit more but now it really is it really is that we're all going to talk polite or you're going to get banned if you're going to give me negative one why are you posting this crap you're gonna get banned if you tell me that this is the effing stupidest thing you've ever seen in your life you're going to get banned if you if you say nice things though dude please don't please don't take this wrong it's it you know if we have a nice polite conversation you say Eli I see what you're trying to do here but I really think you missed the mark that's understandable or hey Eli I see that you're doing a lot of stuff on WordPress right now but I would argue that I think if you did things on Cisco that might be more valuable you know that's polite and nice but if you're gonna be like basically if you're going to be trying to talk to me like a fourteen-year-old I'm kind of done with you and I think this is kind of like the maturing of the whole social networking world because it's like popular science was very interested a couple years ago popular science actually killed the commenting system on popular science calm or pop sicom and what the reason was is that they found all that trolling behavior actually had a negative influence upon the readers and so what they decided is we're just going to scrap all the commenting because we don't want that to invade the the readers perspective and I think as we grow in social networking I think that's that's what needs to happen more and more as more of us need to start saying no I'm done with this crap if you want to be trolling and you want to be nasty and whatever you can go to your little 14 year old bulletin board service but here for Eli the computer guy I'm done with you all I banned I banned him I banned him for saying negative one for posting this crap cuz obviously that guy he yeah I don't want to ever bother him again with the crap that I'm posting so he got banned and then another guy was saying that I effing wave my arms around too much is annoyed stop effing waving your arms around too much it's annoying and again I completely understand you should not you should not have to effing wash my hands move around so he got banned too so uh so yeah again those are the final thoughts the things that go on in the real minds of business people and sometimes they're just these met sometimes are just massive mathematical equations with metrics and all that and other times it's just like sitting there and going you know what I'm tired of you people BAM so there you go people be nice nice is what I have to say so tonight we're having our second geek happy hour so I'm excited about that and we will see how it goes again just to show you guys how meetups grow slowly over time you can see we're now up to a hundred and eight geeks in our geek happy hour Meetup we have nine people to come me tonight and these just trucking along pretty well pretty well so the main thing that I want to show you guys with showing you how things like geek brain dump com grows and how geek happy-hour grows is to remind you that not everything starts out successful it's not like it starts out successful a massive day one it has to grow over time again remember am I going to Baltimore tech breakfast I remember three years ago when it was 8 geeks sitting around a table and now it's a massive thing right so hopefully hopefully this means a geek happy hour will be getting bigger and bigger so we're gonna be going down to endpoint instill tonight which is like an Irish restaurant Irish bar they're gonna have good old Irish music and it should be a fun time and look it looks like Ron will be there so we have Ron is coming there we have few other people we have a couple of startup founders or a digital agency guys so it should be fun tonight so the meetup is growing and geek brain dump is growing she's just showing you guys all of this cool stuff that is happening

Channel: Eli the Computer Guy

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Length: 40min 55sec (2455 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 30 2014