Inside The Cockpit - Canadair Sabre CL-13B

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Remind me why the CL-13A and the CL-13B are both 9.3, whereas the American F-86's are 8.7-9.0.

I'm generally curious, as I have the CL-13A ready to buy I just don't feel inclined to since I'm not sure whether they're worth it or not.

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hey all very quickly but very important before we get into this video as usual with the series of video a standard procedure is to jump into the carpet and explain how everything works in the second half of the actual video in some rare circumstances like with this very one or the mig-15 from some time ago this is not possible to do health and safety policies specifically concerning radiation being emitted from the instrument gauges or conservational concerns or any other reasons that might be for the carpet to remain locked off my fault for not professing it in the mig-15 video from some weeks ago I realized some people did get confused their policies for this as a rule inside the carpet does feature the carpet I were in the episode or as part two in the longer ones like with the me-262 and it will continue to do so unless circumstances dictate otherwise personally for me if concerns exist on the side of the museum or the owners that is perfectly reasonable we want these machines to be in good condition and we want them to be in good condition for as long as possible so that also future generations can enjoy them so if it does happen again in the future just be aware that exceptions can occur and yes it is my bad form of preferencing and on that mig-15 video but i do actually aim to reach out specific carpets that are missing sometimes in the future when and where possible so just as a heads up now you know and if you ever see somebody you know being confused about this in the comment section please just kindly remind them or tell them that this might be a reason why that cockpit scene is missing in that specific video but as I said I do aim to actually we take those when and where possible so as always I hope you guys enjoy this video and thanks very much for listening and here we go today we're looking at a North American classic but with a twist now it took what the original design gave it but with a few changes made sure that this was indeed the sharpest saber in the sky the Canada air CL 13 [Music] hello everyone and welcome back to military aviation history I am your host Bismarck and today we are in Berlin Gatto in the military historian Museum of the Bundeswehr today's feature is on the CL 30b or Canada air saver mark 6 although from outward experience extremely similar to the north american f-86 sabre this aircraft has quite a unique story in itself [Music] the f-86 sabres were of course one of those iconic jets from the late 1940s and early 1950s together of the mig-15 it epitomizes our perception of jets air combat and the leaps and bounds made in aircraft performance during that time we are going to have a complete look at the f-86 sometime in the future but today we will focus on this particular off shot the CL 13 as the canadair name implies the origin of this aircraft is obvious a in 1949 Canada became a founding member of NATO being a member of NATO means of course that you have certain obligations at least on paper and at this point in time of the Cold War heating up these obligations were in fact taken serious as such the Royal Canadian Air Force needed to expand for this it chose to go with the f-86 Sabre which was the most modern aircraft available in the West at a time an agreement with North American was reached by a Canada era limited of Montreal which would complete the airframes from they send par kicks in a 1 million u.s. dollar license contract initially most parts came from the US but by the end of the first 100 aircraft 85% of the parts were produced in Canada the cooperation seem to have been actually quite a quaint one with drawings and even engineers being exchanged the designation of the Canadian Sabres changes somewhat from the us-american system instead of using letters such as a BEF ok the British system was adopted as such the first Canadian Sabre was known as the CL 13 Sabre mark 1 this mark 1 was a copy of the f-86 a5 an early production version of the original aircraft only one was built for the purpose of flight testing in Canada actually got its first pilot AJ Lilly to go beyond the speed of sound from these trials the sabre mark 2 appeared in 1951 based on the e-type f-86 a reasonable domestic production of 350 aircraft was the result and in 52 and 53 just under 440 mark force followed the mark 2 and the mark for differentiated only in a few regards mainly to changes with the cockpit instruments the cockpit pressurization and the canopy release which could now be released manually without actually triggering the ejection see the pilot was using a mid production change also resulted in the elevator trim actuator being moved further backwards towards the tail but as you can see the initial difference between the u.s. American and the Commonwealth Sabres was really minor and once they were in the sky you could only really make out a difference by what accent the pilot spoke the first mark tools were soon sent across the Atlantic to be based in the United Kingdom and France and finally West Germany in fact Canada had more Sabres abroad than at home around this point in time and even ended up jumping in to cover you as shortages during the Korean War by delivering 60 mark tools to their neighbors these were given special designation such as f-86 six-story is kind of coming full circle at this point in time but for Britain to the Canada air saver was helpful to fill a gap of India Royal Air Force which had yet to introduce a swept wing fighter and it stayed in service until the Hawker hunter rolls out in mid 1950 in comma trans against the meaty or the saber had already proven superior and time was of the essence as in the words of the British Chief of Air Staff Sir John stay sir it would otherwise be two more years until the RAF could be equipped with a type not outclassed by the Soviet MIG 15 so although there was political and bureaucratic headaches aplenty it was a done deal at this point in time the aircraft was also then transferred to other nations such as italy greece turkey or chicken Slavia which was one of those are countries that like finland like to do things differently they had actually received the first batch for free under the military assistance program by britain map in short but when yugoslavia started warming up to the soviet union once more these deliveries were stopped instead britain now made yugoslavia pay 5,000 to 15,000 USD per aircraft adjusted for inflation that's like a maximum of 140 thousand US dollars in 2019 money bargain of a lifetime really if you ask me [Music] until this point the Canada air saber suggests itself to be little less than a saber health proper but this soon change of the mark five and six Canada had initially thought about substituting the original general electric engine of the saber with a homegrown design specifically the Avro Orenda given the extra 800 pounds of thrust together with North American they had actually initiated the NA one six seven project to test the insulation and the proceeded of testing the aircraft and the Orenda in the late 1950s on the dust far unmentioned mark three only one was built with a slight modification to allow the bulky or vendetta fit american aviator Jacqueline Cochran actually used this aircraft who said two consecutive woman speed records and fifty-three and she became the first woman to crack a speed of sound of that aircraft the tests were those promising but because your vendor required a complete redesign well not a complete but a significant redesign and the a new production and logistical support line the General Electric engines were preferred this changed of course when you Orenda ten appeared because by now the aircraft was about to gain 1200 pounds of extra thrust which was reason enough to start pumping out CL 13s mark 5s the performance increase was significant for example depending on the altitude the aircraft was flying up it climbed nearly double as fast as the old Mark 2 based on trials of the mark for the mark 5 was also given wind fences just like the later North American Sabres this was a good thing too as the deletion of the slats on the leading edges had made stalling characteristics of the Sabre less forgiving in April 54 over 1,000 CL Thirteen's have been built courtesy of the new production line of mark 5s 370 of those now being in Germany it serves mentioning that the CL 13 mark 5 is of special significance to this country alongside American Sabre 75 mark 5s made up part of the newly rearmed West German Luftwaffe as overhauled hand-me-downs they were in fact given to West Germany as a gift while the mark 5 was good canadair wasn't finished yet pushing out the CL 13b or mark six it eventually developed the zenith of sabre performance incorporating this two-stage Orenda 14 the aircraft suddenly jumped to seven thousand three hundred pounds of thrust although it was also heavier the speed increase was marked the slats were also put back on the wings where they belonged now 655 would eventually be built among the years were free at 19 for Canada and 225 for West Germany the Luftwaffe developed and operated these in yahushua islands appetit winds up to nine surfaces until the mid-1960s although some we're in fact retained for training and target touring duties until the 1980s total production of the CL 14 as a whole so just shy of 2,000 machines and perhaps running with their success a whole other string of variants was planned the CL protein c and j both of afterburners d with a rocket motor the G has a two-seat trainer and the age with radar they remained paper projects however what wasn't a paper project was another purpose-built commonwealth saber for australia now this story goes back to the 1950s these aircraft were notably using erosive an engine also and using 240 millimeter aden guns and they were known as the CAC sabre or CA 27s and again in the future I hope to cover doors I just have to make it to Australia first even the CL 40 be standing as the peak performer amongst all Sabres could not hold its own against a new up-and-coming breed of fighter jets however attempts were made in West Germany to at least modernised available stock and keep it competitive for as long as it was possible for example instead of North American t14 ejection seats mark 5 Marten Baker's for installs and a m9 Sidewinders one per wing were added in West Germany however and elsewhere this was not enough Germany and Canada both embraced the f-104 starfighter while somewhat hope to retain the mark 6 as a fighter bomber the introduction of the theory 91 provided a more dedicated and modern platform for that the CEO of 30 B was a single-seat single-engine fighter jet this aircraft is eleven point four meters long spans eleven point three meters and stands at 4.5 meters it is powered by a single Avro of render 14 of a maximum thrust just shy of same for Sofia pounds giving a maximum speed of 1140 kilometers an hour empty weight is around 10,000 pounds but maximum loaded weight of 17,000 pounds the actor off his arm of 650 km three machine guns each holding 300 rounds although very American this armament eventually turned out to be too light in jet combat and subsequent aircraft in the late 1950s and 60s changed to cannons so what we'll do now is a little bit of a pre-flight check just as the pilot would do before taking off in his mark 6 so we'll come up to the aircraft just general inspection is everything fine make sure that it covers up top are are latched we have to cover of course here we can twist that off take it away we check the gear just normal stuff tire pressure nothing looks deflated no leaks no obvious damage the obviously the landing light here is deployed I would retract once we give the command from inside the cockpit but we want that obviously out for now just general reference of the aircraft everything is nicely latched and stored in place that's fine so we move along the wing again just making sure that everything is fine we've got a couple of latches up here dropped and connector rocket jettison and so on just make sure that those are properly fastened same thing goes for the wing tank opening there as we have a drop tank we also want to make sure that it's probably and properly installed this is not because we don't trust in ground crew but hey you always want to have second eye and you actually the one taking it off in the sky so you want to make sure everything is connected properly we move on check the boundary layer fence right here check the pitot tube take off the cover if need be then check the navigational light nothing is obstructing that great now we have to duck under it because we can't pass you to the make that's on the other side looking at the wing from back we make sure that we have proper movement in the error on we make sure that nothing is obstructing them the flaps as you can see there's actually a flap card installed here we obviously would be taking that off at this point once again quick ways you'll check quick reference you can even like you know just rattle on it a little bit to see if everything's properly latched I'm not obviously going to do that because it's a museum right now we want to check this wheel as well this skier making sure there is no visual damage there's no leak the pilot tire pressure is proper going up again making sure everything is properly fastened everything works fine excellent then we come to the air brake and as you can see here actually everything is slightly open it's just John this could easily just pass the visual inspection of you know somebody on the ground obviously they do their job as well but you never want to just take their word for it so that obviously has to be checked we come to the engine outlet just quick check that is free we check that nothing is blocking the rudder we don't really have access to it from here just make sure also the elevators are working come around quick visual check here another air brake make sure the hydraulics matches are in place again this should be really be closed for us to take off and another couple of latches make sure everything is fine another inspection of the port flap and of the port aileron as well as a gear that we have here and the drop tank now we have to duck under the wing at this moment because of the hawk AAA system right here but we come around and we have another inspection of the navigational light right here moving along the leading edge boundary fence once again looks fine drop tank yeah that looks properly installed and we move along quick visual inspection as well and they come up in the front now usually at this point that would still be covers for the muzzles of the free m3 50 cals on either side those can either be taken off at this point but usually that would be something the ground crew into just before takeoff as we stand here we're pretty much ready to go inside the cockpit start our pre-flight from in there and then take this aircraft into the sky [Music] the list of countries using the Canada sa bar spans quite a few all the way from Australia agrees Indonesia Pakistan and Turkish l'viyah it took what North American had given the f-86 an excellent machine in its own right and H it just that much further creating what is at least on paper the most powerful Sabre out there while it's true that yet development tools move beyond what this machine would provide this aircraft still gave many nations a fantastic fighter platform and one in the case of West Germany that allowed the country to fundamentally rebuild its Air Force from so I hope that you enjoyed today's episode and if you did please consider supporting us on patreon to help fund more content like this and you will also get exclusive access to behind-the-scenes footage from these machines and shoots and I also want to thank the military storage a museum near in Berlin ghetto for long is to get close of their exhibit if you want to visit it link is down in description below and as always I hope you guys have a great day good hunting and see you in the sky feel free to click on any of these they're all good videos I think
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Channel: Military Aviation History
Views: 45,245
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Keywords: F-86, Cl-13, Sabre, Canadair, Korea, Cold War, avgeek, aviation, education, history
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Length: 17min 54sec (1074 seconds)
Published: Thu Feb 06 2020
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