Inside Afghanistan 1 of 2 - VICE News

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[MODEM CONNECTING] SHANE SMITH NARRATING: We first met Ben Anderson when we started VBS, actually. We went to Spike Jonze, our creative director's, house along with some of the most talented editors and shooters and talent that Spike had put together. All we did was watch Ben Anderson footage from Africa, North Korea-- which I then ripped off when I went to North Korea-- Iran, Iraq. It was just fascinating stuff. He ended up getting in a fight and Johnny Knoxville had to go save him and sneak him into a club. And since then, we've been wanting to work with Ben, and we knew that he had been working in Afghanistan for the past three years on making a documentary there. And lately, Afghanistan's been in the news. And you know, we're spending more and more money there. We're losing more and more ground. And generally what we've found with VBS is what you hear the mainstream media versus what is actually happening are two completely different things. So what he showed us blew our minds. I mean, it's completely insane. And it's also very complex. So we wanted him to come over and explain to us what we're about to see. BRITISH SOLDIER: You'll want to keep the bottles. You can fill the bottles up using either stream water, or when you go into compound from the well. Yeah, this is normally confusion. They all gather round. He wants a lot of water for himself, and he says he's going to sort it out, but if you give it to him, he'll just fuck off with the lot. So nothing would get sorted out. He'll just fill his vehicle and noone will get none. So you have to sort it out between them. Like kids. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: That guy's the British Army and the other guys are--? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Afghan National Army. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Afghan National Army. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: And that's basically our exit strategy. The idea is when these guys can stand up and provide security on their own, we can all get out. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: But they can't even give them water without them taking it away. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: No, they can't even get them to wear their helmets and flak jackets. BEN ANDERSON: Seems like quite a chaotic start, then. BRITISH SOLDIER: This is good. BEN ANDERSON: Is it? BRITISH SOLDIER: This is fucking squared away. They've got vehicles and everything. It's well done. BEN ANDERSON: How difficult is it to organize these guys? BRITISH SOLDIER: It just takes a bit of time. They're all mad. They all want to go on the mission, but they're not fully functioning yet. They need us to mentor them and make sure they've got all the kit and equipment they need. They'll go without water and without food and hope for the best. They think we can manage-- magic things up, just invent things and produce a fuel truck for them. But we can't. When we come into contact with the enemy, sometimes you need to put them on a lead and hold them back, 'cause they'll just go and go and go until they kill more and more Taliban. That's what they want to do. That's what their life is. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: So I know there's problems in Pakistan with Muslim fighting Muslim. Why would the ANA fight the Taliban? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: I think to them, it's work. It's not ideology at all. And there's an old saying-- I think you can hire an Afghan army, but you can never buy one. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Right. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: So loyalty is never taken for granted. BRITISH SOLDIER: They are excited and they are brave soldiers. And they're like children. Their attention span doesn't last very long. They soon get bored. At the moment, I think they're all here. Clint Eastwood is. BEN ANDERSON: In the cowboy hat? MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. BEN ANDERSON: How you doing? Have you given up on making them wear uniform exactly the way they're supposed to wear it? BRITISH SOLDIER: No, I don't care. As long as they go and do the job and do what they're told and they toe the line. You know, they enjoy wearing their shemaghs and t-shirts and looking like Rambo when they go out. I'm not bothered. As long as they've got their weapon, their ammunition, all the stuff they need to sustain themselves, I'm not bothered. BRITISH SOLDIER: They're so-- so bright and colorful, all of them. It's a wonderful sight, really. They're a very sort of visual army. It's great. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: So in the past, the problem and the criticism has always been that the Brits, Americans, whoever it is, just control towns or bases, and they're isolated. Isolated from the community, and the Taliban can roll around freely in the rest of the country, apart from these big bases. The aim of this mission was to actually clear ground of the Taliban and then hold on to it for the first time, actually keep hold of that land and stop the Taliban from coming back. BRITISH SOLDIER: With this amount of manpower, we should have enough, tomorrow, to commit to a good scrap with the enemy if they choose to take on with us. We aim to destroy the enemy and take the ground this time, and not cede it again. BRITISH SOLDIER: If they can get forward, destroy the Taliban, and hold that ground, it's a massive morale booster for the ANA and for our boys. So, you know, that's what we're looking forward to doing. BEN ANDERSON: Did they know exactly where they were going? BRITISH SOLDIER: They know the general region, yeah, because they have to know. But we try and keep security to a minimum so we can-- otherwise they'll get on the mobile phone, start phoning everyone around the [INAUDIBLE] they know, and then they'll pass it on to the Taliban. BEN ANDERSON: So there's a worry that some of the solders might intentionally be giving information to the Taliban? BRITISH SOLDIER: Yeah, people have been caught out before in the ANA. And they've been disciplined in their own chain. BEN ANDERSON: And remained within the ANA? BRITISH SOLDIER: No, they've been kicked out of the ANA. They probably went and joined the Taliban, but. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: The ANA, the Afghan National Army, they can't tell them where they're going because they'll call the Taliban and let them know? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: And tell them where they're going, what the plan is. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Why in god's name would they do that? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Because the Taliban pay much better salary than any government job-- police, army, whatever it is. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: So they pay them, and then they say, oh, we're coming here now. Kill us. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. So this is what all of Helmand is like, just desert. But then the area where the fighting is, is called the green zone. And completely opposite to the Iraq green zone, it's the most dangerous place, because it's the one fertile strip of land there, and there are so many hiding places for the Taliban that that's where they love to fight. And that's where the British and the ANA have to go looking for the Taliban. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Green zone, bad zone. BEN ANDERSON: Yeah. BRITISH SOLDIER: They've watched us so far, last hour and a half, two hours. BEN ANDERSON: Everyone knows we're here? BRITISH SOLDIER: Yeah. They knew there was an upcoming, because they're used to it, and they'd have gone, right, OK. Seeing us go that way, Taliban go that way to their fall-back positions. And it's a waiting game. We'll outnumber them, we'll out-firepower them. And they know that. And they will stand and fight sooner or later, because they'll have to. Because that's what they do. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: The Taliban have got a really sophisticated network of dickers. It's a phrase that comes from Northern Island. Local people with mobile phones, as soon as they see us, as soon as they see the soldiers coming, they'll tell them exactly our movement. So the Brits take it for granted the Taliban know their every movement. You see us walking through this town, and it's completely deserted. That's-- every single time we got ambushed, this happened first. You'd walk around, completely deserted. Because the civilians are very streetwise. They know where the Taliban are. They see the British soldiers coming. They know there's going to be a fight. So they get out of there. So as soon as you find an area that's deserted, you know there's going to be fighting. BRITISH SOLDIER: All these compounds make up the village of Kakara. We're just clearing through them. It's a painstaking process. Did you expect it to be this quiet? BRITISH SOLDIER: It swings around about. Sometimes it is this quiet. Other times you might meet one or two people. By and large, because this area has seen quite a bit of fighting over the last couple of months, a lot of the families have moved out. But hopefully after the next couple of days, we will have taken this area properly, secured it, and sent a message that people can move back into their compounds. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Is that poppy, right there? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. Everywhere you go. I mean, without exaggeration, just about every single house we went into had a pile of harvested opium poppies as tall as you. Over 90% of our heroin, Britain's heroin, comes from Afghanistan. MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ON RADIO] BEN ANDERSON: The Afghan National Army can use their radios to get on the same channel as the Taliban and listen to what they're saying. What are they saying? MALE SPEAKER: They're saying they are about to attack. They are getting ready for attack, to attack us. BEN ANDERSON: Attack us here? MALE SPEAKER: Yes. BEN ANDERSON: Do you know where they are? MALE SPEAKER: No. Their location is not known. Just they are asking where [INAUDIBLE] located, where that relocating in the morning. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: He's saying that he knows that the Taliban are going to attack you right then. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Were you scared? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah, you're scared, but you get used to it very quickly. This is everyday life for these guys out there. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: How does he know the Taliban know? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: He's just got a normal CB and he finds the same channel the Taliban are speaking on. He hears them saying, OK, I can see them, as soon as they come out of that street, as soon as they come from behind that wall, we'll attack. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Jesus Christ. BEN ANDERSON: Are they close? MALE SPEAKER: Yes. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: So we'd walked through the entire town, cleared the whole town. Really surprised not to see any civilians, any Taliban. And almost the last building we could see, there's a team of Taliban waiting there to fire up on us. So as happens every single time, the fight happens where they want it to happen. BRITISH SOLDIER: Possible positive identification of two times Taliban. We're going to engage with RPGs, see if it provokes a response, and if so, assault that enemy possession. Over. That side. OK, get the RPG up there, yeah? MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: This guy lived for firing these RPGs. BEN ANDERSON: So we think it's a sighting of two Taliban. And apparently what they'll often do is send foot patrol down to harass, then run away and lure British forces into a trap where they can be attacked by 360 degrees. Just wait and see if there's a response to the RPG that's just been fire. They're loading another one now. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah you get a lot of stuff about how our poor soldiers are getting bogged down in this quagmire. And the Brits know exactly what's going on, and go ahead anyway. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Right. Why? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Well, they're quite happy to go there and have a fight with them. They know they're walking into a trap, but they're looking for it. [RPG FIRE] MALE SPEAKER: [SHOUTING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [MISSILE FIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Sixer alpha, sixer alpha, that's us now being engaged by RPG and small arms from kilo. If you could put air on that, that'd be lovely. Over. [GUNFIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Whoa. Where the fuck are they coming from? BRITISH SOLDIER: I'm stuck. [GUNFIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Six three alph-- six three alpha, that's enemy trying to move, as I said, to the north of our current position. [GUNFIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: They're trying to [INAUDIBLE]. push forward [INAUDIBLE]. Over. BRITISH SOLDIER: Message on the icon chatter said they were going to send their friends. So what I'm thinking is probably happening is that the original four Taliban are trying to push forward to the compound that's 50 meters just to our right, and that the friends are the ones who are now off in that hedge line there. [GUNFIRE] BEN ANDERSON: So is it [INAUDIBLE]? BRITISH SOLDIER: No, that's stuff coming into us. MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Now they're shooting at you there, so you're encircled now, then? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. They were paying attention to a small team round the corner to our right. Suddenly other teams have arrived, firing straight at us, making the wall that we're hiding behind useless. [GUNFIRE] BEN ANDERSON: I think the Taliban are a lot closer than they thought. BRITISH SOLDIER (SHOUTING): You're going to compound half right here. Alpha and Bravo are going to go and assault that compound. You have 60 meters of open ground, possible enemy in the compound, and we'll just clear through with squads of ANA. [RPG FIRE] [GUNFIRE AND RPG FIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Right. Stay right in. Stay right in there. [GUNFIRE AND RPG FIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Just coming straight in-- BEN ANDERSON: That was the Apache, wasn't it? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: We're all looking ahead to the area of the hedgerow where the Taliban were shooting at us from. Helicopter comes over. We hear the explosions, but there's no smoke. Look to our left, and the field next to us has been strafed. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: So they're strafing you and not the Taliban? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Not us, but very close to us. Too, too close to us. They're nowhere near the Taliban. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: Situation Normal All Fucked Up. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. [GUNFIRE] [EXPLOSION] BEN ANDERSON: The helicopter was calling for a strike. We thought it was the compound over here somewhere where the Taliban were fighting from. Instead it looks like they hit this compound here, where Patty and some ANA soldiers were. [RPG FIRE] BEN ANDERSON: I'm waiting. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: We're already nervous about the helicopter, because they've watched this happen. And again, no smoke rises from the Taliban positions. I look around the corner and see that the compound that some of the Brits and Afghans have stormed has been hit by the Hellfire missile. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: So they bombed your own guys. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. MALE SPEAKER: [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: We then decided to go to the building, and we thought we were going to see six corpses in there. [GUNFIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: [INAUDIBLE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Ready? BRITISH SOLDIER: Wait, wait. [GUNFIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: We're going to get back to that compound over there as soon as we can. BRITISH SOLDIER: Go, go! BRITISH SOLDIER: Go, go! Come on! BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: We decided to run for the compound to see if there are six Afghan soldiers dead there. Some soldiers arrived to give covering fire. We come under heavy fire as we run to the compound. [MEN SHOUTING] [GUNFIRE] MALE SPEAKER: Come on! One more, one more. Good. BRITISH SOLDIER: One more Bravo [INAUDIBLE]. BRITISH SOLDIER: Let's go, let's go, let's go. [GUNFIRE] BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: There's one small front door, and that's it. And we're now surrounded by the Taliban. [GUNFIRE] BEN ANDERSON: And your soldiers are all OK. BEN ANDERSON: Nobody, nobody killed. MALE SPEAKER: No. BEN ANDERSON: Nobody killed here. MALE SPEAKER: No. BEN ANDERSON: Pretty good luck. BEN ANDERSON: You found six RPGs? MALE SPEAKER: Seven. MALE SPEAKER: Seven. Shoot fire. Taliban finished. BEN ANDERSON: Now the Taliban fire RPGs at us. [MEN SHOUTING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] BEN ANDERSON: This compound wasn't abandoned. There's a family behind me, with one old man and five children, three of whom-- [EXPLOSION] BEN ANDERSON: Two, three years old. Absolutely terrified. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: So there's a family there. The Hellfire missile came in, blew up their house, and they're still in the house during the firefight? BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah, yeah. They're stuck in the house. That was probably the most shocking thing I saw in my entire time in Afghanistan. These, literally, babies covered in dust, crying, absolutely petrified. And you can see where the missile struck. They must have been right next to the explosion when the missile landed. BRITISH SOLDIER: Because there are a number of compounds which aren't very clearly identifiable on the air [INAUDIBLE], we called in the compound we thought we were in, according to the GPS fixed, and obviously they corresponded, they thought that was the compound we were in. So when they called the Hellfire in, it came in on this position. It's difficult enough when you're firing on your own troops, let alone if you then come into the compound and there's people who've been hiding. But fortunately, I think everyone was all right. There's a few slightly shaky eardrums, more than anything else. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: So there's only one compound with British troops in it, and they've got that one. BEN ANDERSON: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there aren't detailed maps of this place. And what maps they have got are a rough guide, but their abilities aren't on map. Their ability to look at the buildings, it's very, very difficult, especially when you haven't got time to really work things out. BRITISH SOLDIER: All [INAUDIBLE] confirmed, they're calling in strafe on target Whiskey forward. Sixer alpha, roger, we'll stay firm in this target location with the grid we've given you. I don't know what letter it is, but let's just hope it doesn't come in us. Over. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: There's been two times where it comes in on you, and now the third time he's calling it in, saying, I hope it doesn't come in on us. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. SHANE SMITH NARRATING: I don't know what the number is. Shoot away. BEN ANDERSON NARRATING: Yeah. Yeah. Which they go on to say more and more. They just abandon themselves to fate by the end of the day. [GUNFIRE AND RPG FIRE] BRITISH SOLDIER: Sixer alpha, that was spot on. We're now observing friendly enemy movement. Over. BRITISH SOLDIER: They're actually terrified of the air. The closer, the more risk you can play with, it allows us to get even closer to the enemy. It just means that you've got to slightly steel your nerves for those few moments when the first rounds come in and they might be little bit close. But it's all fun and games, so.
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Channel: VICE
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Length: 19min 7sec (1147 seconds)
Published: Wed Oct 26 2011
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