Inside a Flat Earth Conference

once you go flat you can't go back [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] hi I'm Dylan and this is not exactly normal the name of the show comes from a quote from Tim Burton's 1990 Batman film in which Vicki Vale says to Batman you're not exactly normal are you to which batman replies it's not exactly a normal world is it and for flat earthers that statement couldn't be more accurate this week I'm in the great state of Colorado the Sunshine State as a certain paper manager would call it to attend the second annual Flat Earth international conference I like many of you watching grew up being taught that the earth was spherical we learned about the spinning of the globe the curve of the horizon and we saw you know photos of the earth taken by astronauts in outer space yet despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary there's a burgeoning movement of Flat Earth believers or trolls I'm not really sure let's find out [Music] when you have somebody like NASA employees on record saying it's Photoshop because it that's Rick Hummer the emcee for the second annual Flat Earth international conference and like everybody here he believes that the earth is flat the crazy thing is I've seen it we've seen it my whole life you've seen it your whole life and you've ever been to a lake shore it's flat the waters flat water is a natural level yeah I don't think that's the crazy part Rick outing Santa the new world order order NASA and more and also that's another thing too misconception is we'll say these idiots don't believe the earth is round yes we do pizzas round a Penny's way everybody under this you know and then you figure out it's not everybody's in a conspiracy with them everybody's the same squat as you were just before you just found out the information that you were at from what I've learned the Flat Earth movement is all about skepticism it's about questioning everything that you've been taught which is something that I'm sure globe earth believers would support not that you shouldn't mention globe around this ground [Music] so what is the flat earth model well being such a young movement with members all around the world there is some disagreement on the specifics the most popular model supposes that the earth kind of looks like the UN map with a giant ice wall formed by Antarctica that keeps everything in so that's kind of the idea when it comes to Antarctica we believe it's more of the outer ring and it's what keeps the oceans in the atmosphere is a dome either physical or ethereal and stars and planets are just points of light outside the dome a core belief is that the employees of NASA are a bunch of liars they're liars they film their scenes underwater and pools and then superimpose them using green screens to get them onto CGI spaceships you ever see actor knots floating with wires and and wild hairspray sticking out they do it for a fifty-one million dollar a day operating budget yeah it's actually fifty-six they just bumped it now it's fifty-six million but yeah Oh 56 sorry despite this large payday NASA is apparently quite sloppy has a lot of clues have been dug up most notably bubbles when I put hashtag NASA lies into the reservoir that's already there it's powerful content to show conclusive proof that NASA's a deceptive organization so why would anybody believe this well evidence aside for many flat earthers it's largely religious [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] deal they believe that if the earth is a globe then the Big Bang Theory is accurate which means that nothing created the world and there is no God whereas with the Flat Earth model there is no scientific explanation besides there being an all-powerful creator who created the earth and placed humans at the center of it I'm just seriously questioning the reality and what we've been taught that we're spinning ball flying through space you know that nothing created everything I mean that's crazy and that were called crazy and that people would rather believe science when they say that nothing exploded and created everything and that's what they teach the truth when you get right down to it it's gonna be right in your face and you're either gonna have to believe that God made you and his word is true and he means what he says or not he's the living water he says he lives now in and through me I was a walking dead man I was spiritually dead I used to drink vodka for breakfast yeah smoke cigarettes in the shower crying oil they view NASA as the creation of the devil and it was through the devil that NASA was founded by Nazis Freemasons and Scientologists in order to convince the world that God doesn't exist they don't believe that the earth fits in with the heliocentric model of our solar system and instead believe that we are the center of everything in their model the Sun and the moon are much smaller and orbit in concentric patterns somewhat like the yin-yang symbol many believe that space isn't real and that satellites are just suspended from balloons they also believe that the ISS is fake because 60 people died building the World Trade Center and apparently nobody died building the ISS oh and because there are a lot of documentaries about Hitler but apparently none about the ISS the first question I always ask conspiracy theorists about their respective conspiracy theories is who's gaining from this the answer in this case is NASA and it's not just a it's the that whole perspective that is is showing bakery yeah some of them don't know that they're lying because they're deceived and they don't know that there are also deceivers they cite NASA's fifty six million dollar a day operating budget as their motive but I really don't think that's enough money to even cover the cost of production not only would they have to fake literally every space event in the last 50 years keep in mind that NASA supposedly runs every other country space programs but the conspiracy would have to be baked into so many other industries flying for example I flown from here in Toronto to Japan across the Pacific in the Flat Earth model I could still go over the Pacific but I would have to make a huge arc when the faster method would be to fly right past the Arctic Circle their explanation are they navigating from site are they navigating from equipment and they just run based on like GPS which is owned by the US military by the way they're not actually knowing if they're going east or west the only thing that's telling them that most planes they're not even operated I mean they're sitting there having naps or you know playing games because it's autopilot right it's running on a computerized system in order to back up these claims they cherry-pick the information that best suits their narrative and they ignore ridicule or claim falsity of any information that doesn't support their model with that said the movement is all about testing things for yourself into an airplane yeah propped it on the tray table to where the bubble was sent at the bubbles centered pretty much does hope the whole time so the plane was flying was flying level as if it's flying over a flat plane it's about relying on your information not information gathered by others yet there's not one person in here that is so intellectually strong that you broke the programming on your own oh okay what we're looking here is empirical evidence to help unpack some of the deception so that people can look at Wow water doesn't stick to a stationary ball and it certainly won't stick to a spinning ball many of these DIY tests involve using water as a natural level I mean who can't look and see the water's level water exposes the global lie conclusively placing things in water to see if they move when we look at the the water on top of the car here it's not moving it so watch what happens just bumping the car and it'll stop later on I just weighed some heavy truth on you what are you going to do with it tracking the movements of windchimes and using the zoom of the Nikon P 900 and P 1000 to capture far-off images seriously they love the Nikon P 900 and P 1000 they would not stop talking about it it really should be marketed as the Flat Earth camera just get yourself like a Nikon P 900 or even the Nikon P 1000 under the p1000 let's take a look at one of the most common arguments you can see really far you're getting into an idea of being able to see things that you shouldn't be able to see so dude I got kicked out of class as a kid because I said I could see across Lake Michigan but what they're actually seeing is an effect called feita Morgana is essentially a mirage that bends light across the horizon and makes it appear like you're actually seeing far-off landmarks but if you don't understand the physics or don't trust the credentials of those teaching you physics I could understand not believing it would you say that again but for me there is only one piece of evidence that I need the edge the edge is one of those topics people bring up it's a red herring there is no fun off the edge because it's contained right but if the earth is flat there must be an actual edge so why can't I go there and while a lot of planners would say that the whole Flat Earth theory is when it comes to Antarctica that's a big mysterious part of this whole equation like what truly is Antarctica what's to the edge well they don't let us necessarily go there now you got the Antarctica treaty where you got 40 countries that basically signed a deal that say the only military and science can go there the problem with it is is they have a treaty that bans anybody anybody that no person like you myself to go even gold Dan our chica well what they've done is there's an Antarctic Treaty and yes you can take a guided tour there but you need permission first you know I don't know if you've ever tried going out okay so even if you wanted to try to check it out you're either with a group that's monitored and they take you to certain section yes can you afford to go there you can't just take a plane you're gonna get permits from the government and once you get there they'll allow you to take a picture of some penguins and they'll take you to a ceremonial pole but say I do get there can I fall off well it's the highest altitude well I mean it's a 200-foot and most places I mean it could be alcohol I've never been there so the idea that you wouldn't be able to fall off because it's very hot and once I'm on top of a big game of Thrones wall couldn't I just jump off into space Wow you know if you could get there well we have planes planes planes fly at 40,000 feet who gets to fly those planes that's the thing with arguing with a flat earther there's always an explanation for their side until there isn't and when there isn't it's not their fault I don't know and again you brought up the as a muffle equi distant map again I'm not even saying that's a hundred percent I don't know that's the one thing if you're trying to ask questions with flatterers people like okay well how does your model work I would say for me personally I would never hold to anyone model I'm just seriously questioning the reality of what we've been taught if the world governments are keeping us from seeing the edge I wanted to know if any of these flat earthers would be interested in going to space to see for themselves if the world is a globe oh no I wouldn't trust anybody to say we'll put you in a rocket specially after everything that I've said I mean Mad Mike use of the guy you should talk to this is mad Mike a 62 year old daredevil and world's coolest former limousine driver this is my second rocket they have launched yeah I've actually bought five and this was just to prove that I could launch myself vertically in my own rocket that I've got my garage he does it to raise awareness about the Flat Earth movement but his ultimate goal is to go to space how hard you got 875 feet amazing it actually punched her to go on 2,500 feet up when she's supposed to have a mouth unfortunately for Mike even if he makes it up all the way into space apparently he won't be able to trust his own eyes one of these massive helmets are you gonna be wearing well obviously the glass is perfect so I told them this is all part of their design you're going to get up there and you're going to see this kind of view because it does the same thing to everybody's view who wears a motorcycle helmet or anything that's got that kind of curved glass so he said he's gonna look into trying to make sure that before he goes up he looks through and make sure that there is no distortion I hope so - hunter wise and come back and say oh so they went from only being able to trust their own eyes - not being able to trust their own eyes great this belief has made its way into the NBA b.o.b raps about it but probably the biggest musical celebrity within the flat earth community closed out the conference [Applause] our sake winners oh but it's cities the Sabbath Lots go to failure don't you find a little suspicious in five minutes [Music] [Music] that's flat earth man or conspiracy music guru and I got to talk to him though I was a bit surprised when I heard him speak my real name is Alex but obviously some people know me as the flatterer from a and with larium I created the character because I wanted to hide behind the character yeah because if I put myself out there you know my family's gonna die you've lost two plot your crazy blah blah blah so I thought if I just put a hat on and some shades and you know just maybe bar talking a little bit alive and they're not gonna hide behind the character yeah I'm a lot more comfortable with Flat Earth now so I don't mind speaking about it was in two conspiracies anyway yeah you know so I had an open mind so I was more receptive to it and then after that I've got the bug and I was just like oh man gravity is a hoax what bubbles in suppose what harnesses and all of that I went through that whole thing and there's a musician it was like this is how God made songs about yes [Music] well I'm fairly certain that about 80% of flat earthers on the internet or trolls everybody at this conference seemed like true believers well except probably logan paul who is here for some reason i can't say that i left the conference a believer but i made some friends met some interesting characters and hey they sure know how to party so they want to carry on thinking that the earth is flat what's the hot one thing that i'm true that everyone of this conference would agree on other than the fact that the earth isn't spherical is that privacy is incredibly valuable in this world where your online activities are being increasingly tracked having a virtual private network is super helpful with dash lanes VPN and digital identity app you can encrypt your online activity and keep your personal information safe which is great when you've spent the last month of your life 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Channel: Not Exactly Normal

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Id: ecfqbWCiZSA

Length: 19min 0sec (1140 seconds)

Published: Fri Dec 07 2018

Reddit Comments

[u/WritewayHome]

Something new in 2018 that people need to realize is skepticism is not always a sign of intelligence. Sometimes extreme skepticism, especially of basic scientific dogma, is often a sign of an intensely conspiratorial mind that asks the world to bend to it rather than it bending to the reality of the world.

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It's very healthy to change ones mind when being challenged with data and the truth.

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Minds unable to bend to reality, regardless of their skepticism, are simple minds.

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So don't praise skepticism for the sake of skepticism.

[u/DoubleUnderscore]

I don't know why I still watch stuff like this. I think it's going to be funny, but every time it just upsets me more than anything.

[u/Shane_Durkin]

what do you mean "what's the harm". teaching other people bullshit is harmful.

[u/[deleted]]

Entertaining and well made. Calling yourself a "Flat Earther" carries heavy social cost, so it's worth considering why anyone would.

The host says:

So why would anyone believe this? Evidence aside, for many Flat Earthers, it's largely religious...They believe that if the Earth is a globe then the big bang theory is accurate, which means that nothing created the world and there is no god; whereas with the flat earth model there is no scientific explanation besides there being an All Powerful Creator who created the Earth and placed humans at the center of it.

In a sense, one could claim that Flat Earth theory makes it possible for these theists to deny sincerely considering an atheistic worldview. But what about the atheist and agnostic flat earthers? This is the strange thing about flat earth's appeal- for them the appeal is the exact opposite- that it allows them to deny sincerely considering a religious worldview. They reject a naturalistic explanation for the nature of our seemingly fine tuned universe, while also finding a theistic worldview untenable. An example of this is Eric Dubay, a popular YouTube Flat Earther who also has very popular content denying Jesus ever existed. Watching his Flat Earth documentary really makes this reading very clear. Here is my straw man atheist flat earther:

We're the only species on Earth that can comprehend the true nature of a chaotic reality in which we are on a ball hurling through space at millions of miles an hour, and yet our experience speaks nothing to this chaotic nature. We live lives structured by 24 hour day and night cycles, the seasons, we have to be reminded of our own mortality, we lead goal oriented lives contingent on assuming tomorrow will come, and yet the universe is utter chaos. A naturalistic explanation of these set of facts is just too improbable. A theistic explanation is too untenable. Therefore, reality just HAS to be more simple than this. NASA must be lying!

[u/mayorjimmy]

Imagine being SO desperate to feel unique and special that you deny a fundamental scientific truth. It's like a 50 year old that still believes in Santa.

[u/dylandubeau]

Hey that's me!

[u/BanD1t]

The part where he was talking about space helmet was pretty funny.

So either the flat austronaut would return and say that the earth is flat, or he would return and be told that he's wrong because the glass was curved, because he was seeing the edge of the disk, because his eyes are round or whatever.

Literally no winning.

[u/sexagonpumptangle]

Every single one of these people came out of a dark period in their lives, I bet you. They're monumentally stupid, but they also seem very nice and are just looking for something "alternative" to belong to. There's zero, literally zero, concrete, factual evidence for what they believe, but they're still rocking out and finding a new and pretty unique way to feel special and accepted. It's almost strangely harmless. Basically, I feel sorry for massive weirdos.

[u/herrcoffey]

I don't get the "cosmic clock" argument. The total solar cycle is approximately 364.25 days long. The lunar phase cycle is about 27.30 days long. If God intended to make a timekeeper out of the celestial spheres, He did a shitty fuckin job of it.