Infamy The Movie - Graffiti Documentary

why did people carve the rocks you know I mean put the president's faces on their Mount Rushmore why do they do that they got a big kick out of doing big faces or they wanted to leave a mark they wanted to leave a mark you said these people right here they are our founding fathers so we're gonna put their big faces on this mountain and [ __ ] who don't like it so the [ __ ] got up there and start [ __ ] out his [ __ ] nose and the eyes and all that [ __ ] who gave information to mark that [ __ ] up maybe Indians had a problem with him putting that fools face on the mountain how communicate arrested ain't no different man that ain't your [ __ ] Mountain that you scrub their name on it's not really like a prediction but more like a sickness you cannot control yourself if you start if you really understand what you're doing the minute you get that first tag you feel like I could have done that better and you got to keep moving the repetitiveness of it gets really addicting every time you do it you're like one step closer to your goal whatever that may be graffiti is about being loves hated whatever it is being recognized the egos the beef the jealousy the law the sicknesses the injuries the hatred the violence that's graffiti I believe there are a lot of misconceptions about her feeding I think it's nonsense to say to graffiti is black or say that hip-hop and his salt motivates or pushes your feet is not one type of person that writes for feeding it scan it ain't even about my face it's just about a name somebody's alter-ego and it's telling its own Stuart graffiti is just what it is man it's just write a novel he said don't take the apple off the tree and now we are with graffiti up on the wall so if people got to do stuff that told not to do I write graffiti and you got to deal with it is the exit strategy to get us out of Iraq that was question number one number two is a very simple question why did I start doing graffiti I was always like that kid to try to get everybody's attention in class at home I don't know I guess I was just like scared you know like I wasn't allowed to be free and my speaking or my behavior or anything you know so I like played the flute but then my father like made me stop doing that as I go for murrs punishment for me getting in trouble for something it's the only thing I liked and you just took it away and like you know that's exactly what graffiti was it was like that one thing that I could like you know jump on tune and slide down out of the window of my life I saw somebody doing it on a piece of paper and I was like wow that's dope and then I couldn't do it and I was like damn I started noticing it everywhere I was like [ __ ] it was so sexy and I was a horny teenager you know hit those streets it was bad really bad you know I mean of course I stole but like wow writing write [ __ ] so many things could go wrong you can really get in trouble just crazy tagging is like the most buttery essence of [ __ ] graffiti you know like right away you got to tag especially New York somebody's gonna see it some kids I know like comes through and they say like yo here it's not that's you I saw that [ __ ] down by the banks I was like it's not what's that and I was like the first time I've ever heard that that's kind of he's kind of cool I mean I like this feeling what is this this is you know and then it's like I always write here it's not really legibly because I really wanted everybody to see that [ __ ] I didn't want your centers to do for the Freedom Riders I wanted it to be for everyone like the tag is like you know your signature your John Hancock fillings okay pieces and a mural hood go get a graffiti coloring book or something you know I'm saying but tagging is where it's at Oh tagging is the best right little messages you know you could like see where somebody was from that day just from seeing like all their tags with that one red mean streak and then you meet up with them later they're like yo you were in [ __ ] Elmhurst weren't you yeah I loved it yeah that's [ __ ] it's just like timeless you threw in a date I'm Midtown easy just [ __ ] catch me mad tags like mad big people are super green I didn't see that I like it especially when I can see the cop I'm like catching my tag and then uh-huh and done circle underlying star you know I can see where you are so I know that I'm not getting caught you know I'm saying just the nature of me and was defeated writers we don't want anybody telling you what to do you want to [ __ ] break the law you want to take that chance of getting caught and you love it and you love [ __ ] with them and being like well you know I'm gonna do it again and again and again and there's nothing you can [ __ ] do I'm gonna be [ __ ] back you can make laws doesn't mean like you know everybody's gonna follow him and some people come up to me when I'm doing the mural and be like wow this is beautiful I like the colors and I like these animals you put on there and incorporate it in this whole thing I just hate that damn tagging [ __ ] though and I tell me it's the same thing I mean it starts with a little tag and if a little tagging it's a little throw up a little throw gets a little burning a little Brennan throws into a piece and the piece turns into a mural and if I didn't do that tag I wouldn't be able to do your building I never heard of tumor until 92 and I hadn't been to downtown LA in a few months and me and my boy bus had had got off the freeway just to check things out so he was doing [ __ ] and that guy [ __ ] destroyed it like just all the way down Broadway go down Los Angeles to go down like all the main streets and he had so many throws it's kind of like a joke later I met the guy and um he is one of the biggest humans I've ever met to be a graffiti writer man I feel that you have to hold down your [ __ ] day that's it not just right on the wall and be a [ __ ] pisser or pain in your backyard and send it to a magazine like Tamira feet belong illegally that's where it is you're the zoo and see a tiger but he's domesticated in the way you know so defeat him belong on a canvas it belongs in an alley on a train somewhere or it could just go wild this is my office la is the gallery the streets of New York is the gallery the streets of Chicago is the gallery you can go to some places in LA where there's railroad tracks and crazy-ass walls you're going to see that art for free you might pay for being in the wrong place to be a graffiti writer in LA it's like gangs don't like you and cops don't like you so you're in the middle of some [ __ ] up [ __ ] if you live in the hood everybody out here knows how it feels to put your hands on a hot copper hood it's been driving around all day long and the hot Sun and they make you put your hands on there they know it's hot my second felony for graffiti I deal with the consequences I'm not one of those dudes that blame it on society or people whatever I did it I went to jail I came out I did again when in jail King ha do the gang get killed die going heaven catch them spots here's me breaking the pinata here's me little holder break another pinyon here's the aftermath of the pinata stuff and oh this one's a pinata one just look at the violence hope people are violent too is a dead pinata gained Jackie she's not another pinyon looking otta that's where the violence came from I brought this [ __ ] up since he was new ass fool and he takes care of me and I take care of him yeah TKO was not a gang and it's not a Boy Scout Troop they're a bunch of vandals hang out together and vandalize or pink rafidhi the original name for TKO was total chaos there was a lot of gangs around here there's two big games these guys would think I would be from this gang and these guys think up in that gang so always try to jump me how many bullets did you have I'm taking five bullets right here right here my arm in my head is in my chest so we started hanging around with each other and protecting each other and that's how it started is just like safety in numbers you know these people Canada now there's the East Coast Midwest the south all over the west coast ain't nothing I could do I can't get rid of him that's not like you know we made a plan it just happened you know and if I shave my head it's not because I belong in a gang it's because it's cheaper to shave my head and go to the barber every weekend and get a haircut gang graffiti is gangs marking their territory Rafi T is marking your name everywhere to let everybody know this is me I was here [ __ ] off it's all about PMS it controls our bus girls what is a pink hammer we work with claw because she makes great clothes and she lends us a lot of cash in being a little superstar around town my name is Claudia so my nickname derived from that when I was about 8 years old my friends older brother came home time drunk and said ha ha at a time in New York City history where a lot of shit's already been done trains aren't here anymore I think people need to do things to stay fresh and interesting and I thought like an icon that represents what her name was that's pretty exciting the fact that it's an icon it creates a mass appeal in a way that even the most legible approps and graph hits don't have and it's a powerful symbol and it's very direct I'm making my stamp and I want to see it everywhere you don't bomb that you can't peace still bother if you can't support your name then you have no business writing graffiti because graffiti is not just the pretty part piecing is kind of the glossy exterior it's like look more artist but to get to that level you have to spend a couple years on the street creating a name and a rep for yourself when I first noticed her flaw symbol I thought her whole fashion background law her real name her personality as an individual it all kind of came together and using that icon was perfect I mean it was unique in its own way but yet its kind of summed up who she was who she is if in man-slut our money sac painting Medspa Huff admits going punching mini suckers this was in high school claudia was basically a good child but she did certain things that she shouldn't have done in her youth as she got older especially when she became a teenager she could have her moments she could turn on a dime if you know what I mean very rebellious very rebellious my other daughter is a physician I don't think she's made the smartest choices and I really do think she needs to wise up if she were to be arrested again it would be her third violation and who knows what'll happen at that point I think that I am a little bit more grounded because I'm sorry Bernard you gotta stop that she's not somebody who should be in jail she's getting a little old for that Claudia in her art right now at this moment or her work she has not led me in on exactly what it is she does maybe she's afraid to tell me because she thinks all wavy wasn't something that I care to elaborate on or you know even wanted to bother trying my mom kind of sees things her way no it has nothing to do with that place I have not learned to appreciate this I don't know yeah I don't think my mom really likes for failure I remember her distinct reactions were why can't you paint a tree or a flower why he goes at the write the name it's so immature he produced Murphy T yeah she produced she did Murphy I really kind of never really talked to her about it she couldn't understand or I don't know maybe I just never gave her the chance to I think she doesn't tell me where she's going because if I knew I might drive over there and pull it by the hair back into the car so that might be one of the reasons why she doesn't mention it to me when I was younger and I would come into Manhattan with my friends and we take the subway you know in the early 80s the heyday of the trains but 13 14 years old coming into Manhattan you would get on these cars and you would be just so impressed it was unbelievable to like travel and this like shuttle of art there was something in my life that I was missing I did not feel like I was here and I really wanted to prove to myself like oh look I am here there's my name graffiti just kind of drowned out all the insecurities that I had about myself and just made me feel like I could really do anything you're walking there's no one around it's just like private little world it's a wild feeling of really being connected to your surroundings and you can just take a little piece and it's yours I'm fixing my spot somebody mistakenly thought that I am sleeping that I'm not maintaining my spot but they are wrong cannot let this go I was raised by trained writers and I learned you know that if somebody else has a spot you can't take their spot unless it's dist throw-up goes over tag and peace goes over a throw-up there are so many rules and regulations it's crazy not everybody follows them but I do I don't know my boy some mb/s this will take four seconds get rid of this one time I was working on Crenshaw a sign also I heard a backfire I found a bullet hole in the side so somebody got parently had she made me shot at me while I was out there I'm going to leave it like that for right now just because you can't read who it is plus I want to see if they're going to come back and redo it so calmly the graffiti gorilla in the duct in nine years that thing's been up no one's ever tagged it you might as well just get out of graffiti move it you start doing that I would go out night and day and paint down every piece of graffiti you have I mean I've talked to lots of artists lots of I give my business card I tell if it comes in my neighborhood I paint the stuff down you know it's not the personal it's just business so on you know some people aren't gonna like what I do I don't really care I'm not a vigilante I'm vigilant there's a big difference confrontation is his middle name satellite he's clean up old graffiti and gotten rid of a lot of the crime we like Joe does a good guy when I started down here these houses were $189,000 that guy right there selling his house for 1.4 million there's a kid that's right up here he's trafficking the school this way he's only doing graffiti this way and he hit all these stop signs around here everything around her just a little with a grease pencil here he is right here see so see now he's got some skills could see now it's darker see his old stuff was faded so see I would take a picture of this because I'm gonna go to school and ask all the kids who VLT is and I know it ain't bacon lettuce and tomato so and then they'll tell me who it is and then I'll go to his parents house and have a little chat with him and then that will be it for him in my neighborhood get a kid and you bust him in this school for graffiti and you think you got him in trouble when actuality what you just did was made him a hero amongst his peers now he's big-time now he's hardcore you had validity to him anti graffiti my friend no silence and look who they gave it to new being mad man no mercy now I'm really meeting nymphomaniac those are the things that I made up not other things that I heard no money no muscles that last this is Philly and we quit the Hackett at North Philadelphia is no cakewalk Philadelphia goofy is basically a hybrid of graffiti tagging here the tagging form is actually the most important when I see hairstyles that's what we call it sagging and I believe that's just the script style that everybody does when you kind of feel you realize that you can involve that even more we have maybe eight or nine different varieties of tagging styles that everybody basically has to learn I've never seen anywhere else in this country or around the world where people will write their name from the ground to as far as they can reach and not being a piece or a throw-up but just being a tag business got a point for all of you like just add a little bit more depth to it plus I want to confuse people I don't want everybody to always read what I'm doing so that's basically how we getting down to thrill you we had lettuce it stand up and let us then lay down and and with the crown naturally and that is that are so complicated that they mirror a heart you can see the centers real type at the top is fading the bottom is feeding and that's you know up and down feet then I come down with a smiley face little weed in the mouth little crown that's my name backwards emphasis alright and that's my name nm for the little script a little wicked all mixed in together so that's the wicked right there that's my man bait we strive through these books up this is like around the time when we were still connecting with people we were still hanging out with the different artists I grew up in a very diverse area Dymatize vegetables it's not too far from pretty nice neighborhood but you know you can still buy crack we kind of early on realize that experiences themselves could be our mentors so I didn't necessarily need to like I didn't feel like I need a father figure no I used to run track and play ball and all that I didn't care for that you know I mean I couldn't shine hard enough my thought my name is so cool you know I went to PLAs the whole place with with this nm tag no and I thought that everybody was going loving at first he hated and I gotta admit I had to slap in hand I didn't have that kind of control at first but what I did have was a passing the bar you know a thorough Gurfein righted it ran the sig that's what I'm going to do you know me I was living it I look around please come back home hide my pain miles are trying to keep tight tabs on me I try and slip out I see she found my pain my pain that mom you know I mean she'd be like what pain he got in trouble with the law and I had to go get him out of jail for graffiti writing and then I was just totally upset and I didn't associate it at that time with that little boy of seven and eight who said he wanted to copyright his cartoon characters what I appreciate it was that he had passion for it that wasn't going to go away that he was going to continue to find opportunities to paint but it was also during that period of time when a lot of things were happening to young people in and in some of these neighborhoods and I was afraid I was afraid for my son she would ask me don't write on anything in his neighborhood you know I mean like I heard mines he just be like just don't make me see it on a day-to-day basis cuz I at one point I went bananas I had destroyed just about everything cuz I had a bus route that ran by my house I had to let people know that was my route they come through my this is my Ronny nobody bombing nothing around here like I'm bombing you take a bus route of Charlie Brown subway and that's your route you route from the beginning to the end and it can't just be tags it's gotta be probes you gotta do Street letters and yeah you got drop pieces you got shown that you could take them to that level these kids that come out [ __ ] throw us everywhere I'm the king though I'm King I'm like that's just one part of the game you know I mean that's like saying I'm the best baseball player in the world but you can't hit all you could do is pitch you're not the best baseball player might be the best pitching Trank the best baseball player sometimes we should keep a dummy paper like st. we have permission from the owner in case the cops came or if we didn't have that we used to tell them life do you honestly think we'd be out here in the daytime unless we have permission you go down the strip and see a rally NMM NMM and then pulling on a block I might have a burner now you look up a loop Tommy so you're straightening it just bombing with cans I scratched the windows with rocks so market to the mailboxes sign stickers whatever it took mph North Philly hustler I bombed that whole neighborhood that ain't the only body out here trust me I find it amazing how many kids follow the art of saber and his friends and all the other kids but did hear the stories that they didn't know who he is some kids think he's a little Hispanic kid and others think he's a black kid some kids think he's a short white kid some kids think he's you know sixteen and others think he's old I've heard that I was dead many times you know goofy he's all about gossip right sweetie this this myth it follows him but it's a very two-dimensional character of who he is he's a infamous if you will he's got a larger-than-life persona as far as his graffiti accomplishments in his name laser blasts and gem spinner that savers reputation ante the pervert the first day I got my name was the day after I had my first sexual experience and I saw the letters and I saw that was the most amazing letter combination ever like an ass in the beginning a is beautiful but B in the middle which makes it symmetrical coming back into itself the e to bat balanced out the a and then the R to kick it off it's just like the sickest letter combination yet I think personally and so I'm walking with her holding her hand crossing the street she gets hit by a car gets smashed was lying on the center divider leaking out of her head and simultaneously I'm looking across the street then the kid who gave me my name was getting jumped by these serious gangsters basically the two worlds of women and graffiti were just unfolding to me in this like hellish turmoil tornado of like Oh Lee [ __ ] this is what I'm in for the next think of the rest of my life when I would tattoo him he would he would come and just he was just unload on me this whole pent up ration of [ __ ] is just like fever of savour my whole family are artists and both my parents graduated Art Center so I grew up in Art Center in seeing hyper Design seeing car design my freestyled everything I had a general plan but uh you know nothing too specific so I get the blue tape out and just started taping off shapes this is too hard so I got to make it softer he drew every day since he was 2 years old it was almost something he had to do because when he didn't he actually became very irritable I didn't have any brothers and sisters to beat me up I spent a lot of time by myself I remember getting in fights and kids in first grade over who was the best artist in class I was only kid that was willing to fight huh I'll even show you how bad of a toy I was this is my first piece thirteen or fourteen is when he started to change a skateboard can't exist without a cityscape please take the bus down the Wilshire you know just to get away from the suburbs cuz I hated it so much out there and then I started to see this little black book he would carry around and I would ask to see it and with he was practicing his tagging I've been known not to be the greatest tagger Eclipse definitely has one of the best hands for sure he's you know the originator of our crew and Eclipse plays a really important role in all of our lives since we were very young he got involved with some kids that came from a whole different background and somehow he identified with that it was important to be part of a WR because it helped build you know Los Angeles styles and basically there are my mentors one time I went to drive his car and it was so bad how could you get 32,000 miles on a car that's less than a year old he would take 30 40 mile runs several times a night from where we lived in Ventura area clear to LA to Orange County and back again and in his trunk was solid spray cans the most of the brightest brightest red fever Reds more like a watermelon color intense Reds like banner red light red you know I don't know this is a Montana Spain's distribution warehouse for all of North America the spray paint specifically for poor feet aerosol art I'm gonna stop saying that we're not condoning wrath we're not directly putting these cans and kids hands and saying go out and crush stuff ninety-nine percent of the customers are graffiti artists when this paint first started hitting the streets in America everyone was like that [ __ ] is way too expensive it's never available in stores where you can shop lift it now the quality of the paint is so high people giving up shoplifting where they shoplift other stuff they can sell so they can buy Montana the pocket cans go to clubs and you get patted down I can always get these things in and then you take it another step further with these little things poltergeist 2 glows in the dark um this stuff it's just paint remover this is a must-have far as I'm concerned because I've ruined so many jackets and shoes I definitely think I've been affected by the solvents over last 20 years of my life I've actually gone to some doctors about it I'm like yeah paint graffiti I've been doing it since I was a teenager I'm in my 30s and I've emptied a lot of paint cans and seriously a lot of paint and they're all like all don't worry about it it's okay and I'm like I've heard rumors that it like affects like your bladder and you like your nervous system and stuff and they're like I don't think you could really breathe in that much and I'm like no I don't think you understand the place is probably half full there's probably about maybe 40,000 cans of paint in here right now knowing that people go through that many cops in like two weeks is like that is a lot of vandalism like holy [ __ ] you guys gotta send us a bunch of pistachio next time have ever felt guilty um um I don't think so now there's graffiti in the world I'm not the only guy that's gonna write graffiti I'm not gonna start writing graffiti because there's a guy that has to clean it up I just sound like butt stupid senior but that's this job I'm helping him out like you there are people writing graffiti they wouldn't need this guy you know care less everybody feels sorry for somebody I have a job too people are gonna figure on my store before and I'm like okay you know what that's okay you know like I can't control that am I gonna get all Christian fundamentalists about it you know like oh my god your morals and you judge you know I mean come on it's just let it go dude I hate religion I hate from the middle list of any sort and I don't believe in a [ __ ] snake in the tree I'm not stupid the Bible carries a message to take it literally amiss is the entire point and that same very message can be found without any knowledge of religion at all like people would be good back to you if you're just good to people like you know if you're honest like those are things that people realize you know without religion having to tell you and make you feel guilty about [ __ ] I should have black yeah all gone No shut up anything doesn't make the blood cake yeah you don't need to be [ __ ] David Copperfield [ __ ] David Blaine to get a couple of markers out of the store but it helps in tight situations you know I shop like this since I was like four five six it's like a game going the store you GM up like it's going on you got that customer shopkeep thing going on and they have no idea that you're stealing no idea or they know you're stealing they've seen you in there mad times and and they still can't [ __ ] stop me because I'm so nice me and him are like dead opposites I think of consequences that aren't even there and with him it's just you know I I feel like getting a CD player I feel like getting this or getting that or whatever and he'll just go out and do it there's mad things that I will not pay for will not pay for I'm not paying for any type of gore-tex jacket I will not pay for any type of like meats like chicken cutlets steaks won't pay for that definitely racking that I've spent money on [ __ ] before you know I'm saying and then felt really stupid about it like you I could've rack that [ __ ] how do I feel about it it got me through high school this marker suck what a waste of my time I mean I'll take it I'm not gonna be that happy about it the city at County pay 250 million dollars a year our tax dollars to people that to work with gangs and paint out graffiti so why is our entire city filled with gangs and graffiti except for where I am they don't understand proactive and reactive and that's the problem with the city's program they wait for someone to call and say oh there's some graffiti at the corner of Fairfax and Pico come paint the graffiti down they shouldn't have somebody calling them they should already be there there used to be thousands of pieces of graffiti down here everything down here used to be hit up and now it's basically spotless they'll let these signs get tagged up all over the city so this is a [ __ ] gang let's say they're doing a project down in another part of city where there's no Crips are all Bloods the Bloods know who this is so now the Bloods will think hey they came into my area wrote on my stuff they'll now come over to our neighborhood and they'll start shooting people up those people have a better chance to stay alive without that gang graffiti taunting them every time the city refuses to clean those signs refuses yet they have the budget to do it you know what I mean I mean that you have to rub this stuff it'll just melt right off the city used to hand out stuff that was carcinogenic the stuff got on my hands it started peeling the skin off my hand how long we were here two minutes I just don't understand why the stuff doesn't get done they would rather leave that stuff up there or use chemicals that are bad for people or eat up the equipment and buy a new piece of equipment because you know why they're gonna budget they got to buy so many tractors in a year want we just maintain the old equipment that's what happened with Joe Connelly in the city of Los Angeles Joe figured it out this is gorgeous this is beautiful but see Dave as soon as you turn around from his artwork look at this pile of crap we're in the sign is like 14 pieces of graffiti they etch up the sign they got all this stuff here they got this thing here like a little [ __ ] tag up there this is what pisses people off why do a piece are working in vandalize them I'm mad I'll get it listen I don't get it this wall hasn't been patrolled for a long time and when you don't patrol your walls these toys just start [ __ ] around and painting over it and you run out of this kind of paint but you're way in the middle of nowhere you know so what we do when we run now here's a little bit left is you piss inside to make a little bit more you leave a little bit of yourself in every wall I want you to put sticks under the those posters and have characters holding it you know I don't uncor per eight to the wall that's some clever [ __ ] don't do drugs set a te e ka e o H that's t KO it never looks like this is too soon little sketch and then he's gonna do like a little cartoon character in a boxing ring kids like that type of stuff and the people like it they appreciate that type of stuff and they leave the wall of longer you know I was two years old and um my brother and my cousin we're listening hearing the ice-cream truck pass by and they were like go get us some ice cream you know me like dumbass goes across the street grabs the ice cream comes walking as soon as I get a little tasty ice cream big truck come back and since then I was just always interested in colors and art yeah you start drying in the table in in the wall in the bathroom he was in the bedroom and he was riding and I get mad and I told her you gonna clean it we'll use that aren't they well you was a lie that would have been 1980 see I'm an old school man back yard I have one peach other I told him to do it and he did it and I liked it that's the kinda oxidized but to go over there and outside and do the graffiti I don't like it and one day he showed me the he painting right he won a big heart and we say are you proud of me and I was looking at that and I said well no do something right go to school and start learning meet my friends these are kicking on my on my porch and kind of hang out before even writing graffiti and just kind of hang out you know talk about Nintendo cuz we couldn't afford it you know and she'd be like I go to the park no longer the park because the park is gang infested you know go to the park we wouldn't Park get jumped I used to have Prisma colors so I would put alcohol inside the prismacolor so I could just be a little bit more paint and I was in my dad's restroom filling it up he comes in thinking I'm sniffing it you're sniffing painting all this I'm like he [ __ ] me up when I'm painting the graffiti I feel good man all the stress is gone all the drama's gone I'm just it's me the wall the paint I might get some burns some might be a hundred degrees I might be thirsty or hungry but I don't leave the wall until it's done you know I should add a more green more green stars next time hopefully tomorrow we could get something bigger cracking it's gonna say saber but it's gonna take me a minute to get to that point looks a little messy now but by the end of the day and it's gonna look a real nice sa BER you know I mean there's a lot of math going there's a lot of visual math going on then people don't realize how much math really goes on to do a piece it's like with our pieces we like to break them down to as if they're actually in fighting stance the our leg is cocked a certain way and has sparks coming out that'll get you or when I have certain Center points to a piece I'll guard them with little like spike connect our laser things or whatever you want to call I remember even being young before Sabres super big people kind of being attracted to his stuff because he was young and he was doing really technical pieces and he was very productive and uh you know he hit good spots he wasn't that guy just walking down the street just tagging on everything he was the person that would take the spot and make the most of it Sabres known for just going all-out he's known for doing things that like people talk about doing but nobody ever really has the ambition or the drive to really try to go out and produce an accomplished as far as the west coast is concerned he's produced like probably you know four or five of the like ten most monumental pieces and works at the feet things like the bridge and the five 4gk you know that msk billboard right there by the Capitol Records building in Hollywood you know those things were just like colossal so it took Emmy and zest about three nights and it's actually about three stories tall and the funny thing it was when I finished it I get a phone call from GK early as hell your s looks like [ __ ] you need to go back up there and fix it I was like ah so I went back in the day and fix the asking and I figured I look it's done everything in my life always revolved around doing graffiti as far as I put that in front of my family in front of myself you know I've put my parents through hell for this there were points that became very low yes in fact it was very disruptive to the family - my husband and I as a couple but also as a financially it was hard on us we both had jobs that we had to maintain and it's kind of scary when you pull up from work and you see in a police car outside your door and not sure if it's just because he's in trouble or they're telling you something worse than that because I've known his friends have been killed I've been shot stabbed I've known that he's been beaten up so bad one time that I thought I was gonna lose him with his I know he wasn't gonna have a high and they had brain damage where he had to go back through training educational training and years later I found I was old friends that beat him up to jump him into this sort of quasi gang thing I have a brain hemorrhaging and the short-term memory loss I was in the hospital for for two weeks his knees are blown out his shoulders are blown out and can't be repaired things like that that to me have nothing to do with the art I couldn't understand how defiant he started to get and it had just got to a point where nothing worked praise didn't or threatening didn't work punishment restrictions eventually I told them I'm gonna do this anyway you either gonna let me go or I'm gonna sneak out of the house I'm gonna steal the car and I'm gonna drive into LA I'm gonna go hang off a bridge I'm gonna steal some paint on the way there and I remember throwing a handful of cash down the stairwell at him and I said pick it up and don't come back call me I always wanted to know what you're doing but you can't live here anymore that I think was probably one of the lowest points because the last thing you ever want to do is throw your child out of your house somebody called a tag inside my e and like went all over my whole [ __ ] like let's just go out here expert he's got talking this doorway yeah I wanted to be clear that you know I [ __ ] went over you you know like that's what's up oh whoops it never happens I'm listening my father wasn't very good at paying bills he never had a job per se but but he would um somehow bring money in which a lot of it went to drugs like on one of his birthdays you know one of the rare happy times of the year and [ __ ] I some how old he was and he's like slaps me mad hard what the [ __ ] just happened the enemy I was like who's like he said something about it being disrespectful to be asking like yeah always how old they are there was very little affection in our house growing up you know relays buy a television that's pretty much where we got our sense of family from yellow curls what's up we got those fours in those great for it's gray and black they're hot so it was hard but um we just finally used to occupy a time I was in the bathroom of some hotel room in Jersey with like dishes in the sink who better get just finish eating and my parents are yelling like put-downs and [ __ ] at me like I wish I knew exactly what it was they were yelling me about it was so stupid and frivolous they're just taking out their frustrations on me and I would just wasn't man enough for I couldn't take it anymore it was just like they were doing it my whole life and I was sitting there and I'm like dude tomorrow I'm not coming back from school I'm just like out a lot of care and sending this that goes into stands and sneakers and I was like I'm gone and I didn't come back I just turned 17 I think slide into senior year of high school I didn't finish at all I like scape with my friends all day and then like at the end of the night it was like I just want me to go on the train it was all good and just rack everything I need because it was just sweet like that from you two rows he had like a mountain Smith backpack on the front and a mountain Smith backpack on the back and a skateboard and like two bags in his hands and just like a gang of paint and a gang of markers and God knows what else I was always [ __ ] you know I got my [ __ ] my big ice bag [ __ ] I was just like my old pillow and I just like sit I'm on point so you know I'm not like [ __ ] Darrell sleep everyone partying like a lot of drugs a lot of drinking weirdest feeling kids just trying to have a good time basically it was so exciting it was like everything was like so new I've never done anything before you know soon a week in jail be like lab whole time like what's gonna happen next like it's you know I had my fun toughened me up all that stuff that he held inside just exploded out and it was it was really shot I met my first for just my only like boyfriend Paul and like he moved in with him in the Bronx total life domesticated you know I didn't know how to function like a regular lifestyle like you know that was good homophobia in the real world is hard enough imagine what it's like in the graffiti world you know the fact that you know has a black man he's standing strong as a writer and proud of who is in his sexuality I think it's [ __ ] amazing people I always not even hiding it oh I'm here to break stereotypes that's why I like people know that I'm gay and [ __ ] like [ __ ] you know and then I'll [ __ ] you up as a gay person you know Nemean and I let all my graffiti on your face and [ __ ] and I'll beat you in a [ __ ] game of Jeopardy and I [ __ ] out like you're gonna run you and some hundred meter dash and [ __ ] you and here comes the helicopter so we're gonna show oh it's Polly is it it's not police that's security you're sorry well I saw a little light miss 17 and I hate illegal graffiti in very high traffic areas where gets a lot of attention I like to call them jock spots yeah spots that you know men would be concerned about being at you know all hours of the night and I know she's up there with like 17 and I mean I've been in the boondocks and in the middle of the Bronx and you know crazy kind of locations nothing like that chocho when we go out bomb and we are one unit I mean we just take turns one of us is gonna look out eagle-eye every direction make sure nobody's coming that's how you have to do it if you don't have each other's backs no one's gonna get you back for you PMS for life the only car I will ever read going to these really fucked-up neighborhoods and essentially I'm this little white girl running around wherever I please writing my name and so when I teamed up with claw suddenly it became more obvious that I would be a victim because we had guys following us and we had guys trying to hit on us and didn't want to take no for an answer these guys backing up cuz he thinks for hookers they always think I'm a hooker and a cheap one I might have anybody messes with me I'm gonna spray him right in the face stop hold it freeze Wow droid link your blob wall when we come out if we just catch tags on the little bridge that's the long side of here that should it be hot because very a lot of out-of-towners are coming in bombing right up here in the little industrial zone and then leaving wall city I hit the Bronx all right looking good what else should we do um we could do that [ __ ] on the Bruckner through it right close to here yeah I mean great do we have to climb a fence to get in No you've been that boy see you in a minute y'all what's up where's your boy your name dig where's flaking me get snap snap come or angle snatcher fries come on let me get snap there that's that Philly stone-faced almost stop two minutes others gonna get together at the bar it's a pass from your later WAB wing [ __ ] white and black that was the crew otm out taking money so gotta give you a little bit of an idea what we were about if you're truly a graffiti writer you cannot deny the fact that you are committing crimes and you can sugarcoat it all you want to but if you're breaking into things and you're stealing your supplies you are thief if you're somebody that that steals paint to support the graffiti that you want to do eventually that goes into another level you want to go to a party you want to look good so you go steal some clothes to go to the party you know intervene Issa stick people up used to rob people a lot of fighting I must have got locked up six or seven times and one summer and you know I don't know how I beat every case I know my mom was upset because she felt like I wasn't learning a lesson here you don't know me you get locked up and you go in there and you beat the case and then you walk out with that smug look on your face and she's like wow this is never gonna end but my mother you know as a supportive as she was trying to be she was still just my mother you know I mean I have a father figure so I found all that like a lot of you finds it in the street you know I just didn't happen to find a gang I found it within myself but it was still in the street you know one of my best friends died in this hospital shot to death down North Philadelphia born and rear ioan he's the right knees good friend of mine drove himself to this hospital when he got shot died right on the table that's the same tag right there that's old man one man been dead for ten years saying mom lived right there sold family mr. pieces I did four in my bed and I did this a while back I had s people do that with me Sam Martinez lost but not for God then go my boy right there that's my man right on that P we do it Decker Decker star to keep it real yeah that's what we's that's that filly hand style with the fade right there but I was talking about the up fade you see the dots popping see that boom boom hmm Philadelphia we were very blessed to see our old head come back in the past ten years Chad isn't Trk the real king that's what he go by that cat has always been bombing forever man talking about all of them and they took the city and by dem expel that Philly graph is so strong they once they saw one of they buddies go out they had to go out and somebody saw them two cats go out and they had to go out so you saw everybody I mean one of them was my postman he used to come live my mail I had no idea was the bull you know and he was infamous of things Satan infamous the bull this'll war he got x-type I do the road ve that's a bull right baby he's he he older than me and then right long at me he'll never stop him CAD ISM it's like ten of them that are like will never quit bombing got a respectful for that this skis got two hip replacements he had one hip replacement he was out a week later walking around this guy's just glad he's an animal well I'm afraid of heights but if I'm not gonna go where the kids are going and they know I'm full of [ __ ] once I get rid of on the street they graduated to the Billboard so I had a figured way to get on top of billboards and then once they figured out I can go off where they were they could go as high as they wanted to go they stopped going up there because there was no point and they realized they couldn't beat me plus I was older than they were I was slower than they were there was more than and they you know so what's the point if you know you're gonna waste your spray paint coming in some guys area just find a different area I mean I can't stop up to do it for Fiji Oliver City but I will stop them if they come in here not is not for the name like that he ought to be not one thing the guys kept doing a billboard down here it was like twice as high as that one so when I done painting I put a memo up there to them next [ __ ] up gets thrown off amazingly enough in and do some billboard anymore you got to be a little crazy I think otherwise people don't take you serious how all my [ __ ] when I control a tag who I put that on top of it so then they kind of know that they have to stay out it's like a joke man if they let me run this city I'm telling you this place to be running and all I want is a percentage of what I say [ __ ] I'm retiring we're the Oakland tracks this is a pretty famous yard it's been getting painted for a few decades I've had many pieces on this wall right here I like that beats that's pretty fresh has a lot of motion to it you know my styles clear out towards the bottom a little bit too because of the J and the E and it reminds me that a little bit and you why I like it we're benching that's the old term from New York City from sitting in the subway stations sitting on the bench waiting for subway cars to go by and look at the pieces I know that people absolutely love trains and they're really romantic about it but I mean I love them too I just happen to love writing on them and I love but seeing them with graffiti on them the motion of it is a powerful thing that tag I did is probably Baltimore DC like eight years ago bands come a long way I grew up in Baltimore like right on the edge of the city suburbs right after my parents got married my dad got drafted to go to Vietnam his helicopter pilot and their helicopter was shot up and there wasn't one bolt found a couple parts to machine guns and they found my dad's gold wedding ring I think it's made me bitter at times it's made me a little bit uncaring of other people's losses in a way it's a pot I hate to say that but it's just automatic you know I think about it a lot when I'm painting you know especially when I'm bombing I'm proud of my dad though there's no doubt about that I remember drawing the lettering from the suicidal tendencies first album on my bedroom wall and you know - apparently they see suicidal tendencies written on their kids while I don't think that one over too big I think I wrote graffiti strikes and then I changed it to master but I stopped right now because people were writing bader after my tag and that wasn't really what I was going for I think it's this more natural to write your name and to make up something you know at that point I was getting into so much trouble other than graffiti like you know breaking in businesses and stealing safes and doing smash-and-grabs and like just stealing cars like it was graffiti like all I could get the baddest car tonight you know graffiti saved me from that [ __ ] I started to like learning it man my friends that I'd do this other [ __ ] with their scumbags I don't want nothing to do with them I want to hang out with these writers you know they're like far more interesting honorable people Jase is the first person ever taken Rocking there's like a good trade off I guess like as first person take them to do freights if you're a trained cop in a certain city you know everyone painting freights they're obviously not doing it while the trains in motion it's only stopped in like this handful of places so cops started to like you know just happen by the spots in the middle of the night just in case and like one time I remember I was with evade I just did the outline of a J and I hear from cop car like just mobbing down the tracks at us they stop the car like freeze put your hands up um [ __ ] that I jumped up on the stunts whole top of the fan to snap down dog jumped onto these climbs over top of the [ __ ] jumped on this garage launches over my foot fell through the roof gets up once again yeah tons of noise [ __ ] up these people zoos we're hiding behind a car in a driveway someone came up to their door hey [ __ ] you doing my car the cop immediately stopped jumped out it was on again had to jump a fence ran through this yard I was running through one yard he was running through another I'm running like Mitter like next to that there was like some woman in her nightgown making like a snack in her kitchen with her back door opening evade like runs right past her it has a gun she's like what the [ __ ] we hid for a few hours in case something like this happened I take my hair down I just look like a totally different person because the hair is like down to here I walked back to the car went picked up a babe it's a full moon and I see the silhouette of a long-haired Jace dude come on he may not come home one night he usually comes back in the morning but those are good nights right a lot of people go and they paid rates and they'll be like a piece in like a couple of tags and then that's it that's like the appetizer food I don't want to say it's revenge cuz I'm not mad at the trains but it's just lettin off a lot of steam the smashing car after car after car and it's like on that war with the train you know when I've done every single thing in the yard I feel so satisfied you know it's like the best feeling like I'm not wasting all the time it all counts you can't be at a train crossing without seeing a line go by without at least a couple of thoughts from him nine times out of ten you're gonna see at least a je like hallo up there people like that that money on seeing a Jason throw on you know at least one of those cars that everybody knows why if you're gonna think about freights you think about Jase you can't have every trainer it's physically not possible but you can have like one car on every train or you can have one thing at every place where they keep trains I want to be up in this whole country not just one city or two cities at the same time it's pretty rare now if I see a train go by and I gotta throw up on it but it does happen there's other people that can do it no one's done it then it's gonna take you a long [ __ ] time that hundred cars a night three four hundred maybe five hundred cars a week and I did it for five years six years seven years eight years nine years ten years and he gets up there like 30 40 50 thousand drugs it adds up very quickly my graffiti seen more of this country than I ever will could seen everything you know and it kind of takes on a life of its own when you think about that I have three cars on that train that just went by first of all the obstacle is getting in with all your supplies you have to be aware of who's around you who's gonna call the police on you if there are sensors you know you don't go in there slipping and then you know you begin your project and the beauty is is you're the only one in the entire world at that moment that's in that position I've been in plenty of situations where I've watched the world unfold in a way that most people don't get a chance to see it and that's 12 stories up hiding from a helicopter when you're that high up here that visible you're doing something so big they pretty much conceive from a mile away possibly so that there's a person in there looking and he has infrared if he wants it holy [ __ ] your heart's pounding and that voice inside of you that tells you not to do it the guilt and the fear that's inside of you your stomach turns into knots it scares the [ __ ] out of me I'm constantly like paranoid and fear of my own life those times you know on that six-inch ledge where I just slipped and it's like I've been there too many times but if you don't do it you don't succeed and someone else got the spot someone else got the fame every single graffiti rider is a Mack depressive insecure person because that's the only thing that makes you want to go out and ride on somebody's [ __ ] you know Satan's to me his anger stems from his separation anxiety from God and this is what this pain causes separation anxiety at this moment I got him at his weakness for the love of God I'm not trying to be goth I'm not trying to be satanic these things just come out of me and I just paint him another Satan but I think I need to paint another angel now balance it out sometimes my imagination just kind of goes away with me my dreams huh relentlessly horrible terrible night I will wake up in this kitchen you know freaking the [ __ ] out or moving paintings in my sleep or these weird spider dreams that are just ruthless and you know I've actually made a little spider and put it next to my bed so that it kind of like well spider protector and things graffiti flourishes where it's the worst in the darkest places you see things that you're not supposed to see I mean they're mounted homeless sex that I've seen on the street is ridiculous you're painting what are you gonna do leave because this idiot is gonna go [ __ ] right next to you and smoke crack and [ __ ] no you're gonna keep painting so you paint you know I've seen dudes coughing up tuberculosis copying up lung matter as he's walking along to go die in a [ __ ] piss corner somewhere there's plenty of dilapidated people out there that need somebody to pray for him I mean you know and the other hand people are in that position maybe because they deserve it or maybe because they made the wrong choices life is a dark [ __ ] place it's beautiful in the same token a lot doesn't grow in the dark I've been coming here for 14 15 years but um I actually fell in the river one time I got caught in the curse how'd you get a hepatitis shot the next day this place can be very dangerous at times the freeway people can see you CHP the helicopters in the Amtrak it's a strange place just kind of like some no-man's land a lot of texture I guess that's my number one insecurity right there and this is where I spilt the five gallons and I just broke down that night I beat the bucket franc to 45 minutes I've thrown a few fits over this [ __ ] piece right now we are in the LA River on my old piece I did 1997 roughly about 55 feet tall by almost 250 feet across by the end it took about a hundred and 26 gallons of rolling paint it took me about maybe 35 nights to hate this thing actually I blew my knee out on this piece all the time on the slant I created a groove and the cartilage so I could get surgery on my knee I think I'll hold least under 10 years but you know this environment gets so much Sun and get so hot all this paint just gets baked every day originally when I finished it was 97 gallons but uh some [ __ ] camp New York to diss it so I came back and did that one in the long run I'm actually really glad he did that because it humbled me and the other thing is a gaming so much freaking Fame in New York that it revitalized my you know presence I wish it looked like good day today I finished it but I guess it's a blessing that still even here at this point you know you every yard we have has a TKO and that lets everybody know this is a TKO yard coma respect and they do they use the decide on the floor you know we have a lot of different riders here from Europe New York Mexico Canada and they all left their mark here on the floor they haven't touched some euros they respected all of our stuff and that's that's good that's respect that's my homeboy over he was a junkie 21 earlier this year he was murdered while we were helping tribe move her stuff he fired one shot to the chest and you know I was trying to hold his chest in because um because that's what I've seen on TV you know people trying to hold their wounds so well his blood is coming out his mouth and nose the shin I can help him I scream for help but nobody would help us you know they just Cena says gang members or whatever so why I help gang members right we're using the pay phone we're using a [ __ ] payphone you know honestly just like the graph man some matter to odds only if you keep banging the same strip the same street eventually going to touch you writers up work with like my boy Sam Martinez kill Chicago kill that was I mean my boy dream killed read kill all these people die that I was close with that I grew up with they did the same type of stuff that I did you know I mean they all died and the rest of them a lot of went to jail at one point in my life I got into a horrible altercation i paralyzed on the left side of his body it was terrible there was it was a fight in it you know the kid was on drugs and I had knocked him down and he you know he tried to get physical with me kicked me as I was coming I was coming after him and I kicked him in his head and fought him a little bit more the next day he woke up in his bed paralyzed peers pissed on himself the whole nine the detectives were coming for me you know I almost wanted to break down crying like oh my god what about duty is God well I started thinking about his mom and what his mom was thinking about it you know I mean and I would have done that to anybody plus I had like I said I had done so many things that it worked against me when I lost my temper then it was really time for me to re-evaluate how always won't deal with situations period we're in the DeVos Tunnel in San Francisco I'm only going over spots that are dist and a [ __ ] oh it's too damn dusty I always drink when I go painting especially freights like it takes the edge off but um soap you know bill shift we were partners and painting all the time and we were getting drunk and wasted and uh ten years went by and I realized I hadn't gone and done graffiti once without being drunk you know and I pissed off a lot of friends pissed off my girlfriend and I passed out in yards before so eventually took it too far he died you know and uh I think about him all the time but then there's the thing with bombing my stuff looks [ __ ] up if I don't drink because I'm scared and I can't concentrate on what I'm doing and I'm like freaking out on all the sounds I hear in the background you know I need to get wasted or I end up just driving around the city all night looking at spots and not getting out and painting any of them so I've been struggling here and there I'd stopped for a while and then start up again and stop losing him is it's is helping me survive right now you know trying to keep my feet on the ground you may see me stun one it happens I have a bad temper I guess I'm comfortable being angry for its routine when I was like being a kid I had no control over [ __ ] you know like all these types of people that don't want [ __ ] violence and graffiti and but they still want all the you know spice of New York culture at the same time it's like you know come on if you can't fight then I said something about you you're not gonna be able to survive on certain levels right now that element is like going out of New York City able to fight and it was okay and it's therapeutic you know the cops will just break it up this anymore that was great now you [ __ ] published some guy in the street and you yell at him something some lady has already called the cops on they're on their way she's on her cell phone oh my god I gotta move out of the US cuz I can't fight this truth I need to be able to fight in the street if I'm an angry guy and I'm gay and I'll [ __ ] you up too you know what and I'm gonna get up all over your [ __ ] neighborhood and [ __ ] all this stuff control and all this growing and [ __ ] it's just like sucking the life out of it's not and I can't do it that much anymore so I'm just gonna die you know so you know I'm saying like I like to fight Oh [ __ ] you know like you think in your head like yeah I got a bunch of [ __ ] soldiers and they're gonna go out and do all kinds of [ __ ] but then something happens to them and you're just [ __ ] your [ __ ] your head because you'll just totally [ __ ] this kid's life [ __ ] this kid just went out and did some stupid [ __ ] and you're gonna [ __ ] burn in hell for it because you [ __ ] put that shame in his head taia was climbing up these stairs so he did his throw up and this man who had centers on the stairs pulled him down off the pole and started beating him down with the butt of the gun ty screamed for his life and he flew down the [ __ ] stairs face-first that [ __ ] shot my friend in the back of the head and blew his [ __ ] head off and so their wives and girlfriends and mothers look at me like you [ __ ] reason why my son my boyfriend going out and [ __ ] up in the streets because they want to be in TKO his parents didn't know anything about it this person even though the legacy that he left behind that even mattered you know saying they didn't know anything about their own son who was from me then I'm ready to die and I don't really give a [ __ ] but [ __ ] if that's gonna happen cuz I got a little sister that wants to see me and I got a mom that wants to see me every [ __ ] night and I go home I did have a choice but you know I fail to recognize the good choice from the bad Joyce and coulda got married could have kids I could have had a good career you know I would have been better with my family and I lost all that [ __ ] forever for this graffiti I'm [ __ ] tired tired of fighting I'm tired of arguing I'm tired of [ __ ] [ __ ] it's weird I never thought that when I was kid I'll be walking around [ __ ] makes me hate graffiti they all got bad luck stories maybe that's part of the attraction of it I don't know I personally I'm tired of going to funerals I'm tired of giving eulogies I'm I'm tired of that I just have like a lot of love for people that want to get out and express themselves if you go through life just taking care of your own stuff and you you've really not lived your life you need to do something to make people's lives better look how beautiful that is see see she wrote on the paper that's what you're supposed to do you don't write on someone's property unless they say it's okay to write on their property then it's okay you go write on the paper right now that's a good idea I can control the destiny of these paintings a lot easier than I can my graffiti and I'm tired of getting buff I'm tired of getting dissed you know you pretty much gotta count on everything you've ever done we'll get discs buffed or fade away there's over he touched that surface you know he's gone what sucks is that that's it for that kid right there that's all he has left in this world and one day that will be gone so now we are in the LA River smells a lot nicer in here though I had the great opportunity to paint this an institution like this has never included graffiti you know what's more important vandalizing or actually doing something that will last so it's not about just being a young punk running around destroying shape right now I'm thinking about the maturity of receipt where you take it when you get older see I can no longer just look at it for what it is and say that's great I have to make it something that is positive something that that I can inspire people that look I went through all of that you know the stories you know what kind of person I was but you can do positive things you can change I think that graffiti taught me my work ethic respect and I thought that they were just graffiti skills and then I learned very quickly that their life skills I'm glad that she is respected and the people like her work more importantly that she respects herself and is satisfied with her own life that's more important than being looked at as a cultural icon do I really need to bomb the streets if people are wearing a claw on their chest I don't know it's never going to be done because all the ones I did in the first couple years those are fading away so you get to a certain amount the only thing you can do is this go as often as possible so it just gets bigger and bigger graffiti it's like a big race but there's no winner all you can do is stay in the lead for as long as possible I'm proud of my son I envy that passion than that talent I'm glad he has an expression for it if you don't like it that's your that's you you know you don't have to look at it there's a train that goes right through the city here two blocks from my house every time the train goes by I look at every single car see if I can spot Jason or it on it every time and I think you know one of these days he's going to send me a message cross the train yeah that's my brother I'm proud of him I don't care that everybody sees it you know I just know some people will see it that's good enough for me you know like look look I was here cuz that's all it really is like look you know I mean like this is me you know and I keep it moving and like mad people do it for the same community of people you know just that they could be like look look look guys look I got a new one you know to me so like human for people to want to do that you know it's over you know I mean well I mean here in the United States it's over but the rest of you [ __ ] are on the planet hey name buffing [ __ ] out here should stayin up it's time to move it's not even like I'm gonna like stop forever I just have to maybe stop for for now our fur yeah [ __ ] that I see I should just say what it was older riders came back because they had a midlife crisis they got a little bit older they see the young bucks coming out they're like I used to do that and I was better so they got to go back and do it I think that's what's gonna happen to me at some point then i'ma go through a midlife crisis but we won't call it that we gonna call it a comeback let's see me out there believe that [ __ ] it ain't even about my face it's just a bun you want a date penguins man - knock yourself out I'm all for it doesn't bother me you want to come into my bed with that penguin now we have to sit down and talk you

Channel: HipHop Library

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Keywords: Infamy The Movie, Infamy, Graffiti (Art Period/Movement), Documentary, Full, Movie, Culture

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Length: 90min 47sec (5447 seconds)

Published: Sat May 17 2014