My next guest will be speaking
at the International Conference on Nutrition and Medicine
coming up August 18th through the 20th
in Washington, D.C. She is a family
physician based in the U.K. She specializes in OBGYN
and family planning as well. And get this,
she has been a doctor now for 18 years already. With that,
we welcome the extraordinary Dr. Gemma Newman to the Exam Room. It is so good to have you
on the show after all this time. It is so good to be on the show. Thank you, Chuck. I've been looking forward
to this for a really long time. You and me both
and you are coming over here stateside to Washington
to present at the International Conference
on Nutrition and Medicine. And you will be talking
about matter of fact, the title of your presentation
is How Can Female Hormone Health Be Improved by Lifestyle
Change and a Plant Based Diet. Phenomenal topic. We've talked about that
a lot on the show. But I'm really glad that you're here to talk about it today because this is going to be
an episode that I think. Dr. Newman, I want all of our
female listeners. The female Exam Roomies is to share
with their significant others, because I'm just going to be asking you questions
from the guy perspective. And a lot of times, us guys,
we just don't understand. So it's on you today to help us understand
if you're up for the challenge. I'm definitely up
for the challenge, and I couldn't agree more. You know, I think a lot more families
a lot more marriages would be a lot happier if the guys knew a little bit
more about the hormones that their family members
and loved ones have to deal with every day. So yeah,
I am definitely up for that. Okay. Well, let's let's raise those
health IQ, as I like to say. I guess just based off of the
topic of your presentation, and I mean, how can the hormones of
females, how can they like that healthcare improve if they make some modifications
away from that standard Western high
fat diet and sedentary lifestyle and to more of a healthier diet where they're up
and they're also active? Yeah,
you can make huge differences and I think a look it to realize
that because, you know, we certainly doctors,
you know, we're taught about the menstrual cycle
and we talk about periods and about fibroids
and about endometriosis and about menopause. But we're not really taught
about how our lifestyles can impact these conditions. And you know, I say conditions,
but of course periods and menopause
is what every woman will go through
at some stage of her life. And it's something
that even women don't really know a lot about often
before they go through it. And so I think education
on this is so important. And yet diet is one of the
biggest things that we can do in our own lives to help improve
our hormonal fluctuations. And as you say, it's
not even just about diet. We can do things like movement,
prioritizing sleep. Looking at our overall
well-being, all of these things play a vital
role, actually, in helping us to manage our hormone health
in the best way possible. All right. So let's start with the diet
here. Over here,
it's referred to as the standard American diet, the sad diet
but clearly the fast food fascination is not just limited
to within the United States. How much of a role is that
playing in the overall health of your cohorts over in the UK? Yeah, I think that we have
a very similar dietary pattern over here.
We don't call it side diet. We call it
the Western style diet, because essentially,
you know, we're not American. But yes,
it's the same thing, really. And we see that playing
out with our rates of obesity. And it's important as well
when we look at other conditions that are related
not just to genetics, but also to lifestyle in terms of hormones such
as Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. And I think it's really
important to empower women and men to recognize some of these things
because believe it or not, I don't know
if you knew this chart, but about one in ten women
will actually potentially suffer from polycystic ovarian
syndrome, many of whom may be up to even 80% don't
even realize that they have it. And so it's really important,
I think, not only to be aware of the things that we can do
to be the hormone health, but also just some of the signs
and symptoms of of these hormonal challenges that we'll have
that will help points in the direction of greater
health. What are some of those symptoms? I mean, if you're talking about 80% don't even recognize
that they have it. Are we talking about subtle
symptoms? What what should women
be looking for? Well,
if we don't have a backtrack, I think you know, when it when we talk about periods,
for example, they've been occurring earlier
and earlier in the Western world, and that may well be something
to do with our diet. And it's not necessarily just that we are generally taller
or healthier or have more access
to nutrition. I think premature puberty
is also something to be really wary of
because that's happening a lot more frequently. And premature
puberty is related to increased risk of heart disease
later in life. Even adult onset
asthma, obesity and diabetes. And so when you go through
premature puberty,
essentially your periods of starting early than they should do
and many children now potentially
starting their periods even as early as seven,
eight, nine, and that would be classed
as premature puberty. And that's something to be aware
of as parents. And then, you know, moving through
into those teenage years, many teenagers will notice
that their periods fluctuate. They may not happen every month
like clockwork, and especially in South
Asian populations, if you're going through
your periods in your teens and your periods are irregular,
for more than a year. That's actually a fairly important sign because
that could be an indication of polycystic ovarian syndrome
and the things that we look for. Polycystic ovarian syndrome
are irregular periods or periods have been absent
for a period of time as well as sometimes
excess facial hair, sometimes excess weight. And, you know, there may be sort of more subtle
symptoms that you wouldn't necessarily associate with polycystic ovarian
syndrome, such as depression or anxiety
or sleep disturbances. And the main thing that really drives
that is insulin resistance. And so it's a hormonal condition
that also predisposes people
to type two diabetes as well. So I think the main thing that you'd look for
would be delayed periods. So periods that are happening
less frequently than monthly and you may also look for other
signs of androgen excess, which would be things
like perhaps extra facial hair, sort of thinning of the hair
on the head maybe, or extra weight
that you might be carrying. None of those
sound particularly appealing. I can't imagine. I want to go back to what it was you were saying, though, about women
starting their period, as you said,
as young as seven years old. Is that right? That would be premature
puberty. Yes. That's obviously, you know,
the children they shouldn't be having to deal with
with these things at that age. And it's happening
more often in Western societies. Yeah. And I think that
that is probably to do with not just extra nutrition,
not just, you know, the fact that we have, you know, more nutrition
that we've got access to. But actually, I think it's in a clearly harmful at that age
to be going through puberty. And, you know, I think looking at the data
that we have, although I would love
to see more data, I think that there is a link
with excess hormone exposures through things
like microplastics and, you know, things like that
in our environments that we haven't really
haven't really looked at enough. But I think we need to have much
more research on. Yeah. When you use the term
extra nutrition I'm assuming
you mean excess calories. And that's just kind of the way
that it's interpreted here over
in the U.S., is that right? I can't. Yes, I suppose I do. But not just that you know, that there are
I suppose at times in the past there have been
nutritional gaps too, that we've been able to fill. You know, nowadays
as the things that iodine deficiency, for example,
were really common. In fact, in the UK there's a condition
called Lancashire Neck, which back in the 1800s used to actually indicate
that you had iodine deficiency because of the goiter
in your neck, because the soils in that part of the country
were very iodine poor. And now of course
we have a lot more access to iodine,
unfortunately from cows milk. But also now thankfully a lot of our plant
milks are fortified and we can also get it from supplementation
on certain forms of seaweed. So I don't just mean
excess food. I also mean that we're hopefully
able to fill those gaps in nutrition that we may
have had in years gone by. I just yeah. And it just obviously is a guy
I'm never going to understand the monthly cycle,
the menstrual cycle. But I would imagine though, being that young, I'm
just blown away by being that young and having that starting
to occur with your body. I mean, that's got to like freak
a young girl out, right? Of course, especially if they
haven't been told what it is. You're
basically starting to bleed you probably think you're dying. This is horrible for them. So yeah, I think more
education is needed. Not it shouldn't
just be up to mums to teach their daughters
because, you know, there's many kinds
of blended families these days and there's many kinds
of families that, you know, you can't,
you can't just rely. I don't think on one mum sharing
that maternal wisdom with their daughters. I think it's really important
actually to have this education in the school setting as well
so that the young girls can understand what they're going through
and what to expect and you know, to learn about sanitary products
and how to use them. And in fact
even the word sanitary products I don't really like
because it implies 40 when you're having a period
I think we should just call them period products
perhaps as thing. I mean there's it's
not so subtle wording. You're not,
you're not wrong on that. You know, it just conjures up
like kind of a weird emotion with its sanitary product,
right? Horrible, isn't it? I think we just need to shake
this all up and just, you know, call it what it is that this period
where we got period products and I mean. Yeah, right. I mean, I don't know
if the person who thought up that term was trying to eliminate the term period
but sanitary product that's like 20 times more
awkward than a period product. Right? Oh, my goodness. I mean, and what about the,
you know, the poor blindfold gentleman who goes down
and he's like sanitary products. This must mean,
you know, like bleach and soap and things like that. And he's on the completely wrong
aisle in the grocery store. I don't know. Yeah. You don't be putting that stuff
in there. And then, you know, I want to
ask you about another condition. That is hormone driven. This is one
where I mean, on this show, I was really introduced to it
for the first time. And the stories
of transformation and health rebounds
have just knocked me over. I'm talking about endometriosis. How much of that is driven by
hormones and diet and lifestyle? Yeah, I think endometriosis
is a really important topic to educate ourselves
on men and women because many women
go undiagnosed for a long time and it can actually really
affect their quality of life and their fertility if they don't receive
a timely diagnosis. So endometriosis is a condition
where you get essentially the womb lining
or the endometrial cells can start to crop up
in other parts of the body, usually the pelvis,
but it can happen anywhere Rarely even endometrial deposits have been found in places
such as the brain and lungs. And the problem with that is that when you have your
monthly bleed and your cycle where you would shed blood through the womb
and through the vagina, when you have endometriosis,
you have those womb lining cells, those endometrial cells,
but they're also bleeding in other parts
of the pelvis usually. And that can cause irritation, that can cause
localized inflammation And when it continues
without having a diagnosis, you could be left
with all sorts of problems. You can have parts of your bowel
or bladder sticking together. You could have pain during sex. You could have pain
even when you do a poo or a wee. And you can have pain
other times in your cycle. So people can get
really confused doctors often or perhaps misdiagnose it
as irritable bowel syndrome because the pain isn't necessarily classically
just with your period you could get other times
as well. And it's it's really serious. It can affect women's lives
immeasurably. You know,
they can have lots of days or sick with horrendous period
pain. And, you know, interestingly,
period pain can even be as painful as a heart attack because many people,
especially those with diabetes, aren't necessarily
whether they're having a heart attack when they have one. And so, you know, this this is a really nasty,
visceral pain that will give give women
a really hard time and they don't even know that
they've got it unless they can seek a proper
diagnosis. So it's really important that if you're having period pains
that seem unnaturally painful, that really unpleasantly painful, that leave you in bed
all day, unable to move and, you know, if it hurts
to have sex or if you get pain when you're peeing
or when you're pooing these are really important signs
to go to your doctor. Yeah. And I've heard stories that matter of fact, you know, people have come on the show
and talked about their own experience
with it. And one woman in particular
was talking about having to call out of work
and would just lay herself across the back of a chair to like put some sort
of compression on the cramping. And then when her roommate
would get home, she would be like,
please just walk on my stomach. And the roommate was like,
what in the world is going on? Just do it
because the pain was so intense. And so to hear you say that,
it can really mimic kind of the feeling of a heart attack like that doesn't
necessarily surprise me. I mean, it sounds horrific,
but yeah, that is like some really intense
pain. Again, from a male perspective,
I don't think that many of my fellow guys recognize just how painful
of a condition that can be. Yeah, it's
it's heartbreaking, really. And the sad thing is
I don't think a lot of women recognize
how painful it can be either. So if they're going through it, you know,
and if they're getting pain when they pain,
when they poo horrific pain during their periods, even pain
when they're having an orgasm and they think to themselves,
what's wrong with me? You know, they assume, well,
it can't be anything wrong. It must just be normal. You know,
so many women have come to me in the past and said, you know, I just I just get this
really bad period pains. And then when
I go through with them and actually get a feel
for what they're going through, I think to myself, you know,
they've been suffering for years and they just put it down to being, you know,
maybe just overreacting or just trying to get used
to the fact that it must be normal for women
to go through this every month, you know,
and it's really not. And I suppose the advantage
of talking about it on a show like this is that if, you know, women can
listen and men can listen and they can sort of pass
on this wisdom to it, to each other,
so that if someone's really suffering,
they can go and get checked out. And the good news is that
if you get a timely diagnosis, then you can have
medical treatments to help. And of course,
as you've intimated, it is helpful to instigate
lifestyle changes as well that can improve the pain
that you're experiencing. So, yeah, there is good news in this, and I'm glad
that we're talking about it. Yeah. You know, I think the the biggest turnaround
that I heard of was with a woman by the name of Katherine
Laurence Ireland. Are you familiar
with her story at all? I think it's one of the stories
that Dr. Neil Benard has shared,
and I loved hearing it. So, yeah, I mean, you know,
macaroni and cheese every day, all day goes in for surgery,
for endometriosis, just a few, well, I guess weeks,
maybe a month or so after going plant based, doctor opens her up and closes
her right back up. All that's left
there is a little bit of scarring,
but the endometriosis is gone. The doctor called it a miracle. And while her mom called it
just a plant based diet. So, you know, it's it's
incredible to me how someone can abuse their body
for so long with this unhealthy diet
and lifestyle. And yet in such a
relatively short amount of time, it can repair itself. It can. Yes. Although I will
give you a caveat to say that many women who are suffering
from endometriosis and not necessarily
eating an unhealthy way, and also that that kind of story
is super inspiring. And I would love
for all my patients to eat and predominantly Whole Foods,
a plant based diet. But sometimes those kinds of transformations
are not possible. And I don't want them
to feel guilty if they've really tried hard
and they they still end up
having some issues. But yeah, it's really exciting
to hear stories like that and it makes us feel, I hope, more empowered that we can make
some changes ourselves and and get some real benefits. And interestingly,
you know, it's not even just about the food. There is some correlation,
as I sort of mentioned earlier, with with plastics
to plastics exposures, things like phthalates. There have been studies
to show correlation between higher phthalate exposure and higher risk
potentially of endometriosis. So that's something to also talk about,
you know, thinking about ways in which firstly we could get more
research on this, but also from an individual
point of view, what can we do
to reduce our exposure to these kinds of plastics
in our food and drink? And I think that would be true
not even just for women, but for men as well. There's some research
to suggest that BPA exposure, phthalate
exposure is associated with, you know,
potentially higher rate of issues with your sperm count, issues
with testicular abnormalities being born with one testicle. There's also a condition in men
called hyper speeds where the we tube comes out of the penis in the wrong place,
slightly lower. And that has all been associated
potentially with exposure to plastics. And so we would all do well,
I think, to limit our plastics exposures wherever possible. And see, now,
that's an interesting thing how as a physician, do you approach having
those types of conversations with your patients? I would imagine that very few of
them walk through your doors and are expecting to talk about plastic when they're there
for a completely a condition that they completely
would disassociate with that. Yeah, I know it's tricky
and I think I just take a very pragmatic approach
and it depends on the person and it depends on, I think,
the kind of conversation that we've been able to open up. Most important thing,
I think thing I think in any consultation
is to listen first. And I'm really fortunate
because in my practice I work in a national health
service practice. I have patients coming to me who don't necessarily expect diet
and lifestyle advice at all. So it's actually quite nice
to take them by surprise and talk about these things
and hopefully empower them. And the beauty of it is they can
come back again another day. They don't get charged
at the point of service. So if I feel it, they need to come back
and see me I'll say, Why don't you book
an appointment in two weeks, in a month and
three months we can review it. It gives them
some accountability. It gives them somebody who cares
enough to see them again, and it gives me the opportunity
to actually take the time when, you know, when people are kind of receptive to it,
take the time to really talk these things through. And you're right, people
don't expect to talk about diet, lifestyle or plastics, but I think it's actually quite a relief to them
when they can find things that they can really change
and improve on. And it doesn't have to be
everything doesn't have to be, you know,
sort of switching to 100% vegan or you're taking every possible
plastic source out of your life because these things
are really hard and you know, it's almost
impossible to do that overnight. But if we become aware,
I think awareness is so key and that's
where I always like to begin. So some of these conversations, I would imagine
for you are quite interesting. I would imagine that a number of your patients
kind of have their heels dug in I'm not going to change. I'm going
to keep living this way. And it can be really hard
to try to get that information across, especially when what
we were just talking about they're really ill prepared for that conversation
when they came in that day. Right. So how do you help
move the needle when somebody is really kind of dug in there? I listen because chances are if they're really dug
in, there's a reason why. And they may have
some fixed beliefs that they want to explore
with me regarding their health and things
that have happened in the past, reasons why they can't change
and you don't really get anywhere by telling people
what to do. You have to listen first. So that's what I spend
most of my time doing. And then if you ask the right
kind of questions at a time at which they're most receptive,
then they'll often come up with the answers themselves. And I want to go back
also to something that you said when we were talking about
Catherine Lawrence, Ireland. You're like,
that's a phenomenal story, but it's not everyone's story,
I think. And thank you for saying that because there are a lot of people
who make these transitions and they are expecting
that level of of healing that quickly. How do you manage
a patient's expectations? Because there's somebody
right now who I'm very close with
who is going through that transformation. And it's just not happening
as quickly as they would like. And it's hard for me to sit here
and kind of see that. The angst and the frustration. Yes. They're making progress. But it hasn't
been this overnight miracle. How do you kind of taper the patient expectations
and keep them motivated? It's really good question. And it's very individual. And I think the most important thing is
to actually just encourage them to focus on what's
what's motivating them to do it. And also how
they feel about doing it. Because if there's a lot of
angst and frustration around it, then that's not going
to feel good in the body. And what I would love
for my patients and for anybody listening to know
is that these kinds of changes, sometimes they take time,
sometimes they don't. We're all so different.
We've got different backgrounds, we've got different levels of hormone
exposures. We're talking about hormones
right now. You know, we're not all born
with the same hormonal milieu. You know, we have potentially microplastics
exposures from birth. We have, you know,
smoking exposures from birth. We have all sorts of different
reasons physically, emotionally, why we would not necessarily
all react in the same way. And of course, also, I think
when it comes to things like even weight change, I think it can be really
challenging because people will have done 100 crash diets
and they would have gained the weight again. And that leaves you
in a very unfortunate position metabolically
where your body's really trying to hold on
to all those extra pounds. And of course, those hormone exposures
that I talked about, they're generally stored
in our fat tissue, which can be a problem as well. We have other
thyroid issues potentially. We have microbiome differences. We have different
courses of antibiotics that we've taken
in our lifetimes and how they have impacted our individual microbiome and how our microbiome responds
to these changes. And we have different
sleep patterns. We have so many different stress
patterns. And I think that we're
all so unique. And what I would hate for
someone to go through is, is to think to themselves,
right, well, I'm going to have a complete
one 80 health transformation within a month, within two months,
within three months, because that doesn't happen
for everybody. But if you can just maintain
feeling good about who you are, regardless of what
your body looks like, regardless of how your body feels, focusing on the things
that you're grateful for, focusing on how how pleased you are that you've
even begun to make changes, look at the progress
that you've made so far. Feel good
about all those changes that you've made your life
and focus on that rather than focusing
on what you're yet to achieve. You're a glass half
full type of person, aren't you? I can see you've got that sunny
disposition. Oh, you know what? I, I can't help it. It's just the way I was born. And this is, you know, we're all
born differently, but I think. Yeah, I am for sure. And it's interesting because,
you know, when I grew up, my, my family were not like that. And so I think, you know, it's
interesting how our upbringing can affect the way we see the world and and what
we think of the people in it. And so I would encourage anyone out there who's struggling to just be
a bit easier on themselves and to speak to themselves
as they would a good friend. Wow. I like that. You know, somebody once told me
that happiness is a choice, and I didn't really know what they meant
until I got a little bit older. But then sure enough, you know,
that's that wisdom of the adult that as a kid, you
just kind of take for granted. But yeah, it's 100% true. You definitely made that choice. You can tell like
you've been smiling this entire interview,
you know, I dig that. I want to go back to what it was you were talking
about a second ago. You mentioned the crash diets. And since we're all on the topic
of hormones, I'm just curious what happens to women's hormones
when they basically turn their body into a crash test dummy
and they're crashing time and time and time again
with all of these wacky diets? Yeah. I mean, I think instinctively
we all know it's not great for our bodies to do that. Men, too, but I think there should be more research
into how women's bodies are affected by this. And also fasting,
I think is an interesting topic because there's
lots of mixed data on that. And I think especially coming up
to menopause and for women who are having
regular monthly cycles, we need a lot more data
into fasting which is, you know,
some people could take that into another form
of crash dieting, couldn't they? And disordered eating as well. I think we need to know
a lot more about how that affects our body
and our hormones, and we just don't know
a lot of that. But what I will say
is that many different people have to have to do
a lot different kinds of work to achieve the same
sort of size. So you could have ten people
all stood together who look the same on the outside
physically. You know, they may have the same weight,
they may even have the same muscle mass. But then one on the left
would have to do a ten kilometer run or six mile run every day. And consume
maybe four or 500 calories less every day to maintain that body size compared
to the person on the right. And that's just, you know, that
kind of blows out of the water, the whole kind of calories
in calories out simplicity
that people often talk about. Because actually,
as I mentioned, that hormonal milieu will change
based on whether we've
starved ourselves in the past, whether we've gone on
crash diets and how much our metabolism
is trying to get us back to a certain set point. And how long we've been doing
that for. And then, of course, you know, there are people who have had
patterns of disordered eating, which can also impact
on metabolism. So I think I guess the sort of
take home message would be slow and steady
for the win. Don't be disheartened
if you are not steadily losing weight
in the same way that you were maybe when you started eating more healthier and really make it
into your new lifestyle so you're not going to be
looking at the scales every day or even every week. You just going to be
consistently making the choices that feel
good to you and your body without worrying too much about looks. I'd say just way more about how you feel and
how the foods making you feel. What research
have you seen that shows the you know, the slower
you make these change or the slower
the weight comes off, the more likely
the person is to be successful. With maintaining that weight
loss long term. So the research is quite mixed. I've read some research
to say that it's actually better to lose it
quicker and then maintain it and I've read others that says
slow and steady is better. And so for me, I think people
have to do what works for them. But I know from my own practice
and from reading about the experiences
of many other people that crash diets
are not particularly helpful. The vast majority of people will
just regain the weight again. So it really has to be something that you feel
you can sustain for a lifetime, and that's something
that's quite hard to get your head around
because you know a lot of people I mean, you can
speak from personal experience. I know just because you've been on an incredible
journey yourself, and I'm sure you'll agree
that the way that you live now is very different from the way that you lived
when you were much heavier. And that's something
that you've been able to maintain as your lifestyle. Is your way of being. And that's something that I wish
for everybody. No question about it. There's absolutely
no question about it. It is so much more than just
the food that I'm eating. I mean, everything in
my life is different. Right down to and including
a sunny disposition like you, which is,
you know, critically important. There's there's
so many layers to this. But I agree. And it is different
for everybody as well. And, you know, once you find
what works for you, then you're really going to be
in good shape. The way that I always explain it
to people when they ask, I'm like,
there's no one size fits all. There are some universal truths. Out there
that we can all build upon. You know, for example, I believe in my heart of hearts
that the plant based diet is the healthiest diet out
there. It gives you the best
possible chance for long term health, optimum health,
well into your golden years. But I mean, that's
just the foundation, right? You still have that whole house
to build on top of that and you can custom build
that house using that foundation,
that healthy foundation, and just building the best house
for you based off of what works for you. And that's that
individualized thing. And and that finding, though,
what worked for me, it was a lot of
kind of trial and error. And that's I guess
why people call it a journey, because that's exactly what it is, you know,
but it makes it so worthwhile. And I know we're running out of time,
but you've got your own journey. I would love Dr. Newman to bring you back
so that you can share your incredible story.
But the exam room is as well. Of course,
I'd love to come back any time. And we know we've
only just skimmed the surface of human health as well. But you're right,
I think it really is a journey. And, you know, in the context of a journey,
you know, you have to walk. I know I don't remember
the exact lines, but you do you have to walk
in someone else's shoes to really understand
what they're going through. And so it's important,
I think, to have compassion not only for yourself,
but also for others around you if you see them struggling
rather than sort of judgment. Because, you know, we've all been through different things in our lives
and it is quite hard. Like, for example, adverse
childhood experiences. We know from the data
in in the field of psychology that many people
who are struggling with weight issues have also struggled
with physical or mental or sexual abuse
in their childhood and beyond. And there's a huge correlation
between the two so I think, again,
that's something to be mindful of,
just to be aware that one person's journey
is not going to be the same as another person's
absolutely and that's why I'm so excited to be able
to share yours in the future. And two more quick questions
here before I let you go. I've started to get all of these
emails from exam rooms who are like you always have on such wonderful guests,
but you never ask what they eat. So so what does the
average day look like for Dr. Jasmine Newman
as far as what's on your menu? Okay. So I generally love porridge
or oatmeal, which I'm sure many of your exam rooms
enjoy as well. I add chia seeds,
I add hemp seeds. Sometimes my health hemp seeds,
I have flax seeds. I love having a little bit
of nut butter with that almond or peanut butter, and I have
lots of fruit or berries on top. It really fills me up
for the day, especially with that added
nut butter, which I enjoy, and breakfast smoothies. That's another one
that I really enjoy, especially in these summer months. And I guess when I come over
to Washington it's going to be really, really, really hot.
So I'll hopefully enjoy a breakfast smoothie
there as well. I love to have soy milk as my choice,
and I haven't talked to you about the hormone
benefits of soy, but we can
come to that another time. Well, I love that. I love adding fresh greens and
berries to my to my smoothies. What about in my book? I forgot to even mention this. I've got loads of great recipes in my book,
The Plant Powered Doctor. So I took a whole chapter on hormone
health as well as you know, heart health, gut health, immune health, skin health, plant
based for all ages, cancer. There's a lot of different
things in the book, but there's also a lot different recipes
and things that I enjoy making. So lunch, I really enjoy
having a wholegrain sandwich. My I actually really like
to have hummus and grated carrot as well. And I'll add in some salad. I like having pancakes. My husband makes great pancakes
and I really enjoy hearty meals. So in the winter time, I'll love
to make things like stew. I have this great shepherd's
pie recipe or cottage pie. I don't even know
if you have that in the U.S., but it's a really comforting
meal here in the UK. And I really, really love
my chickpea curry as well. Love me some chickpea
curry and you better believe we've got shepherd's
pie over here. It is quite tasty. Yes, indeed. And by the way,
when you're in town for the I Sam, you and I, we're
going to go right next door. There's this wonderful place,
completely plant based. I'm going to get you
this smoothie that's going to knock
your socks off. It's called a cash cow. POW. You fan of chocolate? You like? I love chocolate. Yeah.
All right. All right. You and me. Then we've got a date
at this place called frou ative,
and it's going to be fantastic. I'm telling you, you're
not going to want to go back. You're just going to want
to stay right there and have another smoothie
and another smoothie. That's how good
the Kakao power is. I'm just telling you, so you can get mentally prepared
for what's going to happen. Okay, the kakao power. Well,
I have to hold you to that, so I will make you
take me there. So done. So done. Absolutely. Absolutely. No problem whatsoever. Okay. I can't wait to see you there. You will be
speaking August 19th, but the conference is the 18th
through the 20th. We're going to be recording
episodes of the exam room all three days
and oh, by the way, there will be 30 speakers over
the course of the three days, all sharing the latest
on science and nutrition. Really going to take that health
IQ to the next level. Still just a few limited seats
remaining. So if you have not secured
yours yet, get on it now
because they will not last PCR. Morgan I see and is the place
to go to register today. And Dr. Jemma Neumann,
you are an absolute treat. Thank you
so very much for being here. I can't wait to have you back because we have so much more
to talk about. I can't wait to come back. I'm looking forward
to already chat, but before then I'm
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