Iggy Pop & David Bowie - Dinah Shore Show

the idiot please welcome Iggy Pop [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] wait [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] we [Music] we [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] baby pop and David Boyd you must be exhausted a little bit keyed up now I know that's kind of hard to come down I was difficult to break back out of it of course I'm gonna call you Jimmy sure I appreciate it yeah Jimmy when you do two and three shows a nine well how do you how do you come usually when we work I do that for about an hour and a half good you've known each other for years yeah for six years where did you meet what inspired this ready to meet in a bar yeah sure we were both unrecognized at the time so we had a lot too you know in color all right but you knew that you but you were both interested in music you know not music I mean whatever you call him you look what do you call this what is this isn't yes No explain to me what it is well it's not my understanding of punk-rock is something that's happened in England I think really over the last couple of years but what Jimmy was doing I'd never seen Jimmy really but I'd heard some of his albums and it sounded like I don't know nihilistic rock it was nihilism but me [Music] it was love for lots of our talk yeah no but that that that's interesting we it's a little remote from reality at times no no no no no but now in your collaboration what do you consider your what type of music do you do then David MIT myself well oh I don't ask Jimmy this is a bit up there yes a bit more Airy yeah my my music is just basically I look for things to tear apart you know oh that's good you know you think about it before you do it it just happens doesn't it what Jamie did when we were in it do you mind me talking no no you sure yeah okay in the studio with that Jimmy would make up the lyrics on the spot and he would keep everything that he did and occasionally change the line after we recorded but Jimmy I've never seen anybody be able to make up work so fast just out of this head to a track and it's more like I guess he'll hate me but it's it's more like a the beatnik era it's a retreat I mean it's it's it's the very spontaneous kind of lyric it's not like a written thing at all with you but with Minds I spend months writing one word then I have to look it up and see how to spell it no but David what I mean is when you you recorded a key first or Jimmy first no no no no Iggy already had two albums out in his own that he done himself I and then that the general favor when when went against Jim because of what he was doing at the time it seemed that some of the things you were doing at the time which were the things that I had heard about no I was doing what I was really I was doing songs like I want to be your dog and no fun and search-and-destroy and raw power which has since had a child's toy named after it and and but you were doing things to yourself physically that were yeah and to other people too why because I was bored and angry and when I couldn't you know when when things would get so when something that did demand that action everyday would keep pestering my mind and I couldn't do anything about it finally sometimes I would give up and just resort to simple violence on yourself though mostly usually on myself because I hated to do it take it out on other people I thought that was wrong that's considerate yeah more considerate yeah so often I would I would do to myself what I wanted to do to someone else I mean like for instance you you support hot wax on yourself once yes but that you see that didn't hurt I know it doesn't just everyone I didn't know at the time that it wouldn't hurt though would you cut yourself with a bottle yeah well that was because I'd I'd done something really foolish the night before and I was ashamed I had left up I'd lift this thirteen-year-old girl at a stranded an airport in the East Coast and she was from the West Coast I thought that wasn't right to do to her that's not right so right so I got up on stage and I thought well what is a fool what is a horrible person like you doing up in this stage this is all wrong and I felt so bad that I thought that a heckler that I grabbed a glass what that was well I've since I've had treatment for this sort of thing yeah July yeah Jimmy that's it's better to be able to laugh about it now yeah that's really a hard [ __ ] I'll tell you Rosie was saying we were saying you know you burn yourself with a hot rollers when you're on the road burn your hair but it's a bit the extent of what to do what you did to the toys now listen it's it sounds funny but yeah it is funny it's really funny sorry I just heard the arms and then I must admit somebody played me a videotape of a performance that he did with them just his original band the Stooges and I didn't like it very much because I because then I saw the violence and it's not what I heard from the lyrics but you your music when you I mean you have a lovely if you say Soundwave I'm a cyborg my life is very different mine comes from sort of up to there and Jimmy's comes from about here down to ask you later okay know what I what I want to know what was the audience's reaction when you did those things well to them outdo yourself it would depend you see I did a lot of very good shows than to just like anybody that's reaching sort of like that sometimes you'll do incredibly good things and not know it so sometimes the audience would literally just go nuts and they'd usually get very demonstrative sometimes they would all pass out they did yeah they took a lot of response when they do that yeah and sometimes they would sometimes they would just if it was a room this size they would all press themselves in groups against the wall as far away as they could get from me and just they watch in horror but they wouldn't be able to leave either yeah they would have they would be sort of fascinated well you can talk about it now and you've had treatment I can talk about if he's required it's not my preferred subject oh I don't want to make you uncomfortable just but do you feel that in your music you had a chance of a couple moves of violence to contribute something I think I've contributed something else I think yeah yeah in what you in the statement in your music or in what you were saying about yourself and in the violence I don't know about that I but something must have been something good that I've done oh I'm sure I think I think perhaps just that there are a lot of people who have enjoyed what I've done for a long time so that's good enough whatever it is do you feel you've influenced anybody in it I think I helped wipe out the 60s [Applause] David how about you you you have been working with Iggy now yeah and you're a very modest man yes sitting there at the keyboard and one of the conditions on which you came today was that you would not sing a solo and that you would not talk about David boy and we're friends and I understand and I respect that but what happens with David boy if you're going to continue to sublimate your particular talent maybe can you can your ego stand there okay fine right what can i - yeah two ways of approaching that firstly is that uh one thing which I want to get I wanna get straight is that that the collaboration that Jimmy and I have had has been something because I was intoxicated with up with what I thought Jimmy stood for and I would never ever want it to be considered that I was some kind of hand manipulator or bengaii behind what Jimmy's doing now because he's getting popular now it's only because he's six years too early what he was doing six years ago was just the same nothing it's musically and his presence what he was doing on stage was was exactly the same it's just that I happened to be concerned with it now because I stayed with it so firstly for me it's a great ambition because I that there was something that Jimmy that I hadn't seen in rock and roll which it was a kind of a method I can't explain a method poetry as it was an unleashing of parts of the the animalistic kinds of rock that you never really see it's always usually safeguarded and very very safe and probably has nothing to do with rock and roll I think it has more to do with with with with method method and a human statement yeah I think I know not a human statement no just method Jimmy has a a method so that's my concern and I have nothing else better to do I've never enjoyed a tour as much as I'm enjoying this one just playing keyboards because I think it's them as fulfilling as any any of my tours the interesting thing because it now this no I develops an American accent I must lose that ya know what an interesting thing because I noticed that a lot of the rock artists and the country artists will play as sideman on a temporary day-out basis on a recording city with other performers but I have never seen them do it to this extent but you are now helping to produce Jimmy's albums yeah but what happens with your career oh that's fine then it'll it'll move along exactly I am very rich you know I can afford it yeah and I guess I guess if you willing to you know just wait out and I don't see the necessity of doing a tour of my own until I want to do one yeah not for the bucks I'd much prefer to do one because I want to do it to her then I prefer to do something that really excites me and playing piano behind Iggy but for me is very exciting and that's the kind of thing that usually managers and agents and people that get or they say grab it while you can because the public's taste is whimsical and it changes but for you to say that you can sell public taste doesn't change though there is only there is just is there's a particular a hardcore point in the public that that there's a valve an emotional point that that can be touched in two places it's either on a spiritual level or a gut level and that that will never change ever no I agree with you but the audience to whom you appeal occasionally will be fickle or they will move to another group oh but if you watch them emotionally in one way or the other spiritually I think Jimmy and I believe in our audiences a lot I don't think we didn't sell very much too much well that's great very much [Applause] [Music] watch your teeth I mean you were no wait I gotta get this straight you your teeth were falling out cuz you were getting too violent on stages hitting a microphone mostly from from the microphone and you couldn't very well do it at it floor sometimes the floor and the drum other musicians you know with your teeth I can hit anybody from my teeth but they right he introduced the members of it I'd love to this is uh well this is Tony sales county Sam and his brother hunt hi Sam or his brother Tony whatever there is one of my favorite artists Soupy Sales the comedian you now you're putting me a no I'm not mr. Sufis boys [Applause] well now I gotta ask you what what is your dad say how does he likes it that's good and your Eddie well it's your dad - he likes it - yeah and this fella over here he's from Scotland his name's Rick Gardner hi Rick welcome yeah yeah and this is David boy yeah no yeah well listen you're gonna you gonna do another number like two great what are you gonna do it's called sister midnight sister mittens from my new album idiot yes and I think you [Applause] [Music] qualit system it [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Length: 21min 44sec (1304 seconds)

Published: Tue May 26 2020