I Wish I Was Wrong | Dehya Post-Release Analysis

hello beautiful people and welcome today is Post Release analysis now usually I wait like a week or two after the characters released to do the Post Release but with Thea I've been playing her a lot more than most characters and also I think that she's a lot easier to figure out because she's just so glaringly that's basically everything that I I have a pretty solid I'm pretty confident in my in my understanding of her of her kit and in my ability to go through what I got right and what I got wrong in the pre-release as usual for the for the Post Release what we do is we go through the pre-release video and we we basically just look at what we got right look what we got wrong correct any potential mistakes and uh so let's get started um the her HP scalings are a joke her beta cycle went through yeah so her HP scalings really are a joke if you want to put it into into perspective we know how usually like on characters that have scaling on multiple things you can put their like Sans as one of those things right so like you think about using attack percent that Sans or not pythm for example which is like not quite as good but still fine with deya there is a bigger difference between attack and HP sense than between HB and defense Sans and she doesn't have defense scalings her HP scalings are technically there but they're actually laughably bad e your e is basically like I could sing e that leaves an Albedo e behind the thing is it doesn't deal a lot of damage these are not title levels one by the way right these are level nine as we're gonna see later if you're building her for burst damage or if you're building her for her damage you want to focus more on burst damage so the good weapons are gonna be something like aquamaru and stuff like that and like the Dole the fish for now we can just take a look at like prototype archaic just like to get a baseline understanding of how much damage you're getting from that let's show what would happen if you were to actually build free damage so you went for something like lava Walker so the like the proc from your e with kazuha and Bennett buff active we'll do about AK damage per frogs depending on what team you play her in whether or not they Vape whatever all that like the general thing you can expect out of Baseline is closer to I mean you don't have VV you don't have a Bennett buff let's show it yes gosh I I should have had Pi resonance but whatever with no bus 4k on a crib I have like 45 crit chance so average is like 3K with Buffs 11k but that's on a crave and again I have 45 grit right so it's the average is closer to like seven to eight K it's not a lot of damage and then if everything goes right and you manage to vape it if you're using Mona you won't because you only have enough High drop to vape like the hits from your burst and then you're out of hydraul but let's say you're using singtel foreign slasher which means that the non-vape damage could be a little bit higher but you get the point right like getting a like 10ish K average I I count this at around 8K honestly it's around what it is yeah unsurprisingly because usually math happens to you know work and by the way right this is a 200 over 200 CV double crown day uh like this is not a a city build like it's a good build point being he won't do a lot of damage also the initial test of it of course but my point with this and then the initial cast can be almost two times as much damage if you vape it fog even have the skill damage of this card let's go oh shoot 76k oh 98k let's go that's so much damage and all it took was the kind of setup that would make sailing in it for about that much as well five times more often it's okay this is fine actually her ease damage is mostly negligible unfortunately oh by the way the elastic yeah cause like if you are playing her in a team like this like usually you have just enough power off to vape every hit from your burst or every vapable hits from your burst which means that none of your e hits will actually Vape right like if you do an actual like normal setup so surely that means that her burst damage is good right let's get into that think of her burst as like Sino burst but very short and also since when you land all work and anything that even mentions normal attacks just won't work okay so because of that that means they gave her like way bigger numbers to compensate right so without Buffs we're at about 7.5 K per hit so that must yeah so we can we can we can take a look at it I mean hey so without Buffs right non-crits for 3K crits for 8K with about 45 credit so average is around six to seven K just several even less mean but they gave her like 20 hits right no she's got like 10. most of the time probably gonna be nine obviously you can buffer oh very nice now we're at around 12K all right 14k on a crit five count of non-credit so yeah around 10 to 12K we can give her the VV back okay VB nice okay I had not removed or not so that's why this one was a little bit higher okay but if we so 15K with kazuha all right so 7K on a known crit 20K on a 21k on a crit so it's about 14 15K average I'm not going to do that so but yeah that's fine 15K that's starting to be that's a hotel normal time it's not even a hotel charge attack but this is a one right surely it adds up when you put all of them together so let's take a look at how much it adds up to so this becomes our total damage that's 240k insane well no that is not insane with these Buffs you compare it to anyone else and you realize oh yeah oh this is significantly lower for context if we just use this right we do about half of the Rune guard's health so as you can see the character that can be swapped out we actually dealt more damage than with a character that cannot be swapped out on top of that my data doesn't have enough ER to sustainably do her rotations right now whereas my sailing actually does so that means that she's just a bond carry with nothing they can do right well not she can do in other pyro carries can't really do and that's how she can work with Mona you can actually use Mona with her and still Vape the vapable hits on your burst or at least you should be able to right into your setup get Mona's burst in Mona e and then day of burst so you can see Vape Vape Vape right so all of our vapable hits actually go away and we managed to actually one rotate the Brewing part now the reason we might also want to rotate is because we got pretty lucky with grid RNG this is a crit fishing build because otherwise I can't one rotate it but but like you can get that kinda the problem is I Act of investment Hotel could kill the first two enemies in one rotation whereas theya can only kill one it's [ __ ] rough out here let me show the Patel thing because I don't want you to just take my word for it [ __ ] it my heart attack missed are you serious well whatever [Music] foreign you can see the difference right and like I said right I don't actually have enough ER on my data I also don't actually have enough ER in my Mona right she's on uh she's on four piece instructor at like we're barely getting by you know which means that my rotations won't actually be 20 seconds they'll be closer to like 30 seconds but not only that but the root and Drake is actually quite a bit tankier than the ruined guard right this guy the Rune Drake Earth guard which means that I will actually struggle to one rotate this enemy unless I get really lucky with quit RNG so there's four enemies Each of which I can potentially one rotate with but only with good RNG let's at least four rotations and realistically they're like 30 second rotations that's basically two minutes spent on the first half in practice my fastest clear so far with this team has been like one minute 48 but the average clear was closer to two minute 15. because the the good clear I got really good crit RNG let me actually show you what happens when you go past the first birthday against this foreign RNG so oh and we got canceled through our [ __ ] E so that's right okay well now I gotta wait until the Electoral thing happens because I have to remove it otherwise my character will just stop working so that's good [Music] oh you little [ __ ] we didn't actually manage to cancel this thing well I guess that means we're gonna have to do a second rotation on him so that's great I want to use my burst here if I use my burst here I'm not going to do any damage on the other one now we gotta wait until he gets the electro infusion then we gotta try to remove it and then we can do our rotation we're now getting lucky crits that's okay we got upgrade at the end that's good but now we actually have to wait a whole ass [ __ ] 15 seconds because we killed it right after the Electoral thing which means that if we do our setup now we're just not gonna get our stuff okay cool very nice might get us up two minutes it's not quite close then we have 57 seconds left on the second chamber so what you would generally get is you would get six of the normal hits on Vaped and then three of the normal hits plus the final hit would be vague okay so one thing from what I understand a decent amount of her kid is like Ping dependent um but you actually get 10 hits plus the kick at low ping I haven't played her on hyping but I've been told that on high pane you get nine hits plus the final attack maybe I've been lied to honestly I haven't looked actually bothered to double check but anyways you actually get one more hit than I than I expected in the pre-release well it actually adds one Vape so you because your your tenth hit will also be Vaped however most of the time your moniverse will actually run out before your final kick which means that even though your final kick has a bigger number it's generally going to be about the same amount of damage because your moniverse expired 36 star is not that difficult and if you try to play Daya as a carry you might might unironically be unable to like not just oh no you can't speed around but like unironically oh no you can't clear in time yeah like I would not expect the average player to be able to 36 star with a team like this even on the second side I am unable to 36 star if I play this game on the first side no matter what I put on the second side I just can't because I just I need like over three rotations to kill Simon and there's no Electro so it just doesn't work it's just not enough if I do on the second half I actually can 36 star with this team but only because my first half gets hard [ __ ] carried by hyperloom a single Target and even then it ends up pretty close it's very disheartening to see things like this thing is though there is a reason why she's this weak and the reason is because she gives you defensive utility which I haven't talked about yet so here's the thing about her defensive utility let's listen to my Fearless thoughts and then and then when your active character takes damage a portion of that damage will be transferred to Daya instead tall level 9 is 48 on level 10 it's 50 right so about half of the damage that you take on your active character will be taken by Daya instead that's good like that's nice that's useful she also has a passive where when her HP goes below 40 HP you'll recover 20 of her Max HP instantly and then another six percent every two seconds for the next 10 seconds that's another 30 so 50 but you basically get 50 of your of your HP back here's the thing about this at the end of the day they is the only character that gets that healing people very often need some form of defensive utility the better you play the less you need it when you're playing with a Healer then you're just playing with a Healer right you've got that going once you start learning the enemy to talk about it was a bit more maybe you can get away with someone like saying so instead who gives you some damage reduction damage resistance whatever and a little bit of healing so the damage that you do take you can heal it back up if it's not the thing about Daya is because she doesn't actually offer any healing to other characters most people are still going to need a form of healing on top of her at which point that damage mitigation doesn't matter nearly as much it's still there and it's still useful but one main thing to remember about this is that other characters also have forms of defensive utility but then on top of that they're also not completely garment right you look at someone like don't leave it only gives you significantly better defensive utility and reduces resistances think so gives you better defensive utility again significantly better defensive utility and is also just the insane unit to begin with Bennett gives you a different type of defensive utility but in the form of just having a kind of healing but also gives you a massive attack buff what does Daya give with her defensive utility that makes it worth putting on your team well if you build the whole team around her she's going to be a bad carry and if you don't she's applying a little bit of pyro but not enough to actually be the trigger for reaction so effectively she's not doing anything you can use her with tenacity then get power resonance I guess maybe and that's not completely useless but she just doesn't provide anything else her like damage mitigation also is accompanied by resistance to Interruption and her first Ascension passive you get additional resistance Interruption now they changed it very recently and I haven't really had news about how much resistance or Interruption this is but if it's a lot of resistance to an option she might have a place where she could be worth putting it is generally enough to basically prevent any form of interruption although there are still I mean the ability itself doesn't actually have that much resistance Interruption on the cast time which means that you can get canceled out of it just like pre-buff Jung Li but the biggest the biggest issue with the defensive utility is that the uptime on it is just really bad like you've got uh what is it 12 second uptime on the damage mitigation which means almost half the time you don't have it and then on top of that you only have nine seconds listen to Interruption it's so bad in terms of uptime the place where she could be useful for this is specifically in Burn melt gun utens or you don't really need fast pyro you just need some form of pyro technically you can get away without any pyro but having pyro makes it easier to play you can play gun you better right it's been effectively replacing only with her you'd lose out on the resistance shred but in exchange you would get more consistent burning and it would probably be easier to meld all of your stuff that's kind of the only place where she actually has a purpose in a team over other units and the only reason she does is because your other alternative for a team like that is Toma and Tomah requires normal attacks and ganu Mel ganu does not want to do normal attacks effectively you can look at it one of two ways either I play her with her birth I actually use her burst if you do well your verse isn't going to do anything damage without any Buffs so if you blame her with Buffs and like as a hyper she's oh the worst version of shinya she's not exactly a worse version of shinyan she's more like a an alternative to shenan with similar output and worst quality of life and a lot of Auto targeting problems but similar output option two you don't really flavor for her burst and you focus on the E for the application and utility it gives in which case unless you're in a team that can't normal attack she's the worst version of Tomah pick your poison or synonym or worstoma yeah so honestly I I I I really do think that Tomah is better than her in most situations so something that some people might not know is that when you have a shield you also basically have infinite resistance or Interruption and Thomas Shield actually has more than 100 uptime because Thomas you'll last eight seconds but the duration gets refreshed whenever his burst wave goes goes through and if it gets destroyed well he gets it back when a burst wave goes through right which means that as long as you keep Auto attacking you will have [Music] [Music] right so you also have basically infinite resistance Interruption but unlike data you actually have good time on it right it's not just nine seconds of resistance Interruption it's basically for your whole rotation because his bursts lasts for 15 seconds at a baseline 18 seconds with C2 but let's say you don't have C2 even even then 15 seconds at a baseline for his burst duration which means from when you're will use your start and then for up to eight seconds after your burst is over so up to 23 seconds 26 seconds if you have C2 and the cooldown under the 20. generally you care more about the resistance interruption than you care about the damage mitigation from daya's stuff and Tomah just gives you such better resistance or Interruption the quality of life of it is just so much better so most of the time you just rather play Tomah and so unless unless you don't have a way to do normal attacks which like for example in GoNoodle you can argue that you don't want to use normal attacks in other teams generally like you you just rather use Thelma because he's just better if there is like one exception to that which is if your unit just like gets one shot easily but then you'd rather just use singtel instead right because sing so offers actually more defensive utility than data and also has 100 off time on it like his damage reduction is a little bit less than Deus damage mitigation but the healing when your brainstorms expire generally more than makes up for it six percent for sword right he's got four Swords with C1 so that's uh 24 of his max Health mine is at 16k Max health so 28 24 of that is about 4K and his damage uh reduction is at 42 versus day is 15 if crowned which means that in order for days damage mitigation being eight percent higher to give you more defensive utility than than think so's like like healing you'll need to take 50 000 damage pre-mitigation per rotation that's a lot most of the time since those like it helps you to prevent damage more and then also like since it was just a good unit who does a lot of damage it's painful because I actually really like what they did with the way that the burst worked with Mona actually having Mona be a vape enabler for Vape carry is just cool yeah it is it really is and not only that but one thing that I ended up realizing uh recently is that even with her C6 which increases duration uh there can be a way for Mona to work to Vape every vapable hit so Mona's burst right when the bubble pops on the omen like explodes it applies two units of hydro the thing is it shares internal cooldown with the initial application of the omen so if you trigger it quickly then it won't apply any Hydro at all so you'll only get the hydro from your e which generally is what happens because you don't want to just [ __ ] stare at the enemy for three seconds right and so when you have C6 they up because reverse lasts longer you won't Vape every hit however if you're against enemies that have stagger immunity which some enemies have Mona's Omen won't pop when you start attacking them because Mona's almond doesn't pop from damage it pops from stagger which means that if the enemy is immune to stagger the bubble will stay on the enemy for longer before exploding which means that you actually can get the two units of hydro application from the bubbles explosion and so if you're doing something like against the right of token boss after you get the shield face down you can actually get your Full Burst to have all of the vapor which is cool right it feels like there's just a bunch of things that like everything lines up really well with the gauge and all of that and the cool the kit is just really cool and then they just made the numbers complete trash all they need to do for her to be good well they they need to double her numbers she's kind of just that far behind yeah oh actually yeah I am reminded of another issue I haven't talked about yet when you use your burst it retrieves your skill it takes it off of the field and basically pauses the duration and then puts it back at the end of the burst okay I mean that just means that your verse is effectively used to make it so that your e lasts longer your E's like power application is more evenly distributed throughout your rotation because you don't apply more power while you're you're bursting which is good which yeah but also you generate energy when you eat frogs which means that when you're in your burst she's not generating energy which means that in this Abyss it's actually not that bad because the enemies that are in this current Abyss actually drop a lot of HP particles so you don't actually notice the ER requirements that much until you get to Simon basically right because like these enemies drop a lot of particles and then these enemies drop a decent amount and then you get to Simon and it's like oh heck me I don't have an FDR anymore oh [ __ ] oh okay most of our energy generation is gonna happen when she's not on the field it also means that you don't get your own your obligation when you're in your burst so not only do you not have any of that defensive utility right you don't have any of that damage mitigation but also you're still taking damage from having mitigated damage for your other units before which means that especially from like the second rotation onwards if you don't Dodge that much you're just gonna die in your burst but honestly the biggest problem with that is just that she stops generating energy in her burst which means that most of yeah so unironically like you can't just face the ancient with like India's first because the uptime is so short dodging is a massive GPS loss and it's really easy to get one shot and so you're just sitting there like man what do I do for energy generation happens when she's not on field or you can keep her on field and then the rest of your team doesn't generate any energy effectively because of that and because of the fact that she just doesn't generate that much energy to begin with her ER requirements are actually pretty high if you do end up laying her in that Mona team she needs somewhere around 180 ish ER I was using 170 assuming that you're going five causes Mona your ER requirements are insanely High and the thing about that is usually right when you have and yeah so like the reason why I'm not currently running day on this much ER is because if I go the normal amount of er ondaya then I lose damage and I won't actually be able to one rotate a rune guard which means that I'll need to get a second burst on the ruin guard and then I'll Overkill it from the second burst which means that I'll basically be wasting a lot of my rotation so I found that in my case the best way to go about it is actually to just have a 30 second rotation because her damage is just so [ __ ] low that it's almost just better to slow down the road it's just uh if you're not against multi-wave content like that then you'd still want to go high ER but because it's so hard for her to reach the DPS breakpoints actually one rotate single enemies then sometimes it's actually worth it to run low ER just to get higher damage which is just bad units it's not the end of the world because you can still just use them in over her e doesn't do any damage so like all of her damage is in her burst and she's very energy hungry which means that in Overworld she's also gonna feel shitty like it goes yeah um that's not actually entirely true so what I found is that because of her damage without any Buffs is so [ __ ] terrible you can actually use your burst use all of it and the enemies are still not dead which means that you can then battery her with Bennett's Eve but usually when you're when you have care is like that you can just overall you look at Shell for example you can just give him five the thing is if you give five today of her damage that's already pretty bad becomes even worse yeah that's something for fun earlier that is true and so at which constellation Daya starts dealing more damage than hutau if you play Daya with the Mona team and hotel just in a normal team that has a thing too so even before taking into account singtel's damage Dayo is still doing less at C5 and it was at C6 that she got ahead now obviously Deus AOE is a bit larger but it's not that large okay also another thing that I have noticed from actually like playing it in practice the enemies don't stay rude during your queue you just knock them away from each other the auto targeting on it is [ __ ] weird so you'll go like who what the heck is she doing man it doesn't feel very good you know we it's not too bad against the kinkies because if they group themselves then you can actually deal damage to all of them it's like just barely just large enough for it but the other enemies it feels like trash that was c0 hotel with a it's not because they like triple your damage c0 to C6 plus the five star weapon at R1 you're like quadruple your damage it's just because she starts from so far behind like her constellations aren't so that is again right without looking at supports damage and because she doesn't work with things so like supports damage actually matter a lot and what you actually do start looking at supports damage she is kind of just behind hutau even when she's at C6 anecdotally I've tried a C6 day on someone else's account with their signature weapon and I was I was clearing slower than when I play Hotel on my account by a pretty significant Merchant a decent increase but she starts from so bad that even with them she's just fine does that mean that she's completely doomed well in her current state yes but not really because like I said earlier it's very likely we're gonna get an artifact set for her okay let's talk about that so we have had like more proper leaks about the artifact set HP plus 20 and then game 10 Elemental skill and Elemental burst damage bonus when the equipment character takes damage this basic effect is increased by 80 for 8 seconds Max 5 stocks whatever so you can get up to 10 plus 400 percent well it's four hundred percent of ten so it's 50 total right it's 10 plus 40. you can get up to 50 Elemental skill and Elemental burst damage that's a decent amount but here's the thing like I said earlier HP actually doesn't do much for her damage and her Elemental skill damage is not that good most of her damage if you actually use your burst comes from her burst so the two piece is like kind of useless and the four piece a part of it doesn't do that much here's the thing emblem is also very good on her right emblem gives a two-piece ER which she really needs and the four piece gives you a pretty reasonable amount of verse damage bonus when you are at the 17180 ER that you're gonna need it's almost as much as this 50 the thing is with that like the ER from the two piece just being so much better for her stat distribution than the HP right ER on your set bonus means that you don't need as much ER on your substance or main stance which lets you get away with more crit or attack in your sub stats with your are being so much better than the hb2 piece at those levels of er emblem is actually just kind of better for her damage which means that this artifact set is only good for her when she doesn't need that much ER and she only doesn't need that much Er When either you're speed running and only doing one rotation which he doesn't see if whales struggle to one rotate an abyss boss with with the uh like that that's how [ __ ] shitty this is or you have her C4 which gives you a bunch of energy so basically this artifact set is only really a substantial upgrade on C4 plus Daya on pre-see for Daya in some situations it will be a slight upgrade because this 50 Elemental burst damage is still generally more than what emblem gives you so if you don't need that much ER then this can be an upgrade but most of the time it's gonna be at most like a one to two percent increase on her actual DPS which is well about a hundredth of what she means she needs her damage to be [ __ ] doubled to be good that artifact set does not do that I would expect the artifact set to increase freeze her output by like maybe somewhere between 10 and 25 I don't expect it to be this is the face of a man who is just completely clueless this is this is the face of a man who does not know who is unaware completely and utterly unaware be anything more than that if it were 25 she'd still be pretty bad it's sad and I'm gonna go for her anyways and I'm gonna struggle to clear Abyss with her anyway yeah but yeah both of those statements are very true where and if you're going for her you should be too and if you like her and you don't care was apparently supported before we knew she was going to standard yeah it was I added a few things from like when we learned that but the there's a few times where I reference things that aren't actually like necessarily accurate with her going to standard sure that's good I'm not telling you that you can't go for her I would just like as much as possible to try to ensure that you know what you're getting yourself into if like me you're telling yourself hey it's fine 3.6 artifacts that will save her just remember units get reruns you can always wish for a unit that you skip but you can't that you wished you can't unwish for a unit it's always better to fold off to be a little bit too safe than to be a little bit too trigger happy with your Primo gems obviously she's pretty unlikely to get a rerun as a standard unit however I would also argue that it doesn't really matter anymore because I have lost all of my opium I have lost all of my copium I don't think they're gonna make her better anymore I have completely given up if you want a unit that's actually good don't go for Daya and if you want to go for Daya just make sure that you're okay with having a unit that just sucks because she does and it's probably not going to get better go through for weapon options I mean yeah High refine aquamaru can be better than some of the like attackers and statistics if you play with Bennett or how to like a little bit little tiny bit ahead guard part is also okay it's just like it's a start stick she needs the ER but the passive is useless on her Serpent's fine sucks but it's like okay if you're one rotating content which you're not because it's there but like if hypothetically you were one retaining content you can also just never use your e which makes you lose a bunch of particles but it lets you get your serpent spine stocks so if the enemies drop a lot of HP particles you can just decide to not use your e so your serpent Spine Works or you can just make sure that you don't get hit true another thing about the weapon I didn't actually mention the rain slasher because it's not that much better than male flower but rain flosser is actually a pretty decent option if you have R5 rain slasher it's slightly better than R5 mailed flower when you're doing Vape so that's something I should have mentioned here it's open I'm actually using most of the time because well I'm not using a zero stack serpent spine no thank you and I haven't leveled the male flower yet and I mean I I actually just recently got my R5 rain slasher on the day of banner actually I was at R4 beforehand and I got I got R5 from it so the game new the game new what can I say okay uh also another another thing that I want to add is a few other like quality of life issues I guess is what we're gonna call them so when you jump during her burst it just cancels the first which is like oh okay so they just gave players a way to cancel the burst which is good right well here's the thing when you get Frozen you gotta Mash out of it by pressing spacebar which means that if you get Frozen during her burst you can Mash out of it because if you smash spacebar you'll jump and if you don't you'll cancel your verse also right there's a few a few pretty pretty popular Clips alright so there are many characters that can struggle with targeting but as you can quite clearly see from this they assure us heck is one of them so you hit like what three of her of her burst hits that's what I meant with the like who who it's it's bad it's just it's yeah it's got It's kind of like they just didn't give a [ __ ] like it truly is like what the [ __ ] man artifact sets I didn't end up mentioning Crimson witch in the video which I I should have Crimson Witch is okay it's still worse than emblem if you play her vape and if you don't play her Vape you don't want Crimson witch you can go four P's Tom you can go four piece instructor you could go on the Bless but there's no reason to go Nobles over Tom you could go Exile but there's no reason to go exile over Tom I guess lava Walker as well is technically doable oh yeah and then Orpheus flop slash for Beast gilded Miss thin slog for Virgin but like I said earlier she won't be very good in virgin yeah so about that at a baseline her kit doesn't lend itself very well to Virgin because it's very slow pyro hits with bad up time and during her burst she doesn't work with the best Hydro units but then on top of that [Music] wait a second wait a goddamn second [Music] it didn't hit the seed s is too high not only does uh does her kit itself not let itself all that well to Virgin but also the AOE of it like of her of her ehit is really really small like much smaller than ryden's e-hit which means that there are actually quite a few enemies whose hitbox is like too big so the the the center of their head box is too far away from where the seeds get generated so it just doesn't burden with Ryden it's something that happens only on like very very large enemies like uh the golden wolf Lord but it can actually happen on Rune Raiders with uh with Daya so that's a thing that I now am aware of and that I'm not happy with melts [Music] like the optimal build would be attack pyro crit because that's still how she does the most damage and her utility doesn't really scale that well with her HP like it's useful but it's not like that big of a deal but the thing is because her damage is so [ __ ] dog [ __ ] it just doesn't really matter that much like yeah you can build her attack if I recruit but like it's not gonna change how fast you're clearing instead of hitting for 1K or he's gonna hit for 3K like [Music] assuming that her resistance turn option is good enough not to need a shielder then this is this is her best option this is realistically the only team where I feel like there's an actual reason to blame her over the Alternatives yeah I think I think that's fair although because her resistance Interruption lasts such a short amount of time I still wouldn't recommend her over the other option I think it's fine to play her there but it wouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind as a recommendation for sure virgin significantly about as good as chenyan yeah it's better if you're shooting on c0 towel Vape technically not garbage make it yeah you can use her for defensive utility and hotel Vape instead of someone like dong Lee with like if you have double Hydro it works hyperbloom don't use her abilities fine I guess like that's what we're resorting to listen I think that's the best way to put it on here these are the depths that were scraping I guess airfryer those of you who don't know air fryer is uh when you use animal units to trigger burning and with nahida you can maintain like 100 burning up time and Pyro up time I need a bunch of power swirls it's not the greatest team in single Target but it functions uh and it's pretty good in AOE oh true and real but as you can see in single Target not the best but it is actually pretty good anyway because you get some like pseudocondraotic feeling and you're damaged like basically very very AOE pods you don't want to play hurt I like how I just went through all of that just to say that she sucks in our fire but yeah she's pretty bad an air fryer why play her instead of Bennett because you're gonna die airfryer can actually do damage to yourself if you need a defensive option you'd rather use Bennett and if your Bennett's busy you'd rather use a pyro shielder because burning is power damage so power Shields are 2.5 times as effective as they usually are right so Toma or C40 is something you'd rather use like I don't I don't even know what to say man this is the first time where I'm seriously considering a consolation because I want to get her because I think she's cool but she's gonna feel so unplayable at c0 that I'm unironically considering like getting a few constellations speaking of yeah let's go through her columns real quick I've got to change my mind about that it's not [ __ ] worth it um but yeah uh one team that I didn't include here that I probably should have is uh hyper carry teams the same teams where you'd use Toma and yeah she is just the worst version of Toma most of the time but she does work with something like Wanderer for example probably should have I I should have put that here I didn't because I for [ __ ] like once she when she comes out you'll probably see some showcases from c0r1 or c01 or zero Daya where you actually do get like a 100K the hit on your burst that's c0 or zero with like really good artifact that's the thing that's gonna that that is very possible to happen yeah just for me I I get like when my day is fully buffed I get close to 100K well yeah you could also another thing that I that we found out is you can actually get her to do the kick early if you dash jump which is weird but like I guess it's pretty cool 97 come on come on that would have been 100K if it was on the last chamber with like a couple more Abyss Buffs make the best cards I mean and then that I didn't Dash I just jumped so my purse was canceled Good Times and quit we go again we go again 135k you can do it like reasonably sandish number but like it ain't great you know you can actually look at her DBS while her burst is active it is actually pretty similar to hutau the main difference is basically just that our animations are significantly lower to get to that burst and she doesn't have that like okay you look at the damage during this and like it's not that bad like this is okay but her uptime is so much lower than other units her animation times are honestly so long with all of those Buffs that's all she can do and so it's like while she's into her thing it kind of feels like she's a good unit and then her verse is over and then you realize that it's been two minutes and the Chamber is still not done and it's like oh I understand now but like if I go back to my hotel I'm not gonna bother giving her the good Power goblet I'll give her a slightly less good pyro goblet just uh I don't have to keep stopping like I could play hotel with Mona as well and it's not ideal but oh like I can do that too like it works she can do it too except she doesn't have to and it's obviously not a popular team because it's bad like hey come on man God damn it this character doesn't work with Mona this is not like a consistent thing that you can do all the time like honestly I wonder if I could if I can actually like one row like one shot it if I if I'm below 50 HP I think that might kill me so I don't want to risk it there we go see like I can literally just play bursts about hutau and it's [ __ ] about a spot like if that's what letting myself get [ __ ] locked on for like it's more than 10 seconds like almost 30 seconds at the beginning you probably get it by now like I I'm happy with her like obviously I wish she wasn't this bad but I knew what I was getting into Wishing on her Banner and I got what I was expecting I just want to make sure that you also know what you're getting into because if you're not ready for it you will not be enjoyed yourself all right maybe maybe if you do like a d a d right click e Dash jump Q it triples reverse damage I think that does it for the pre-release I predicted the dash jump trick true real you really do want to force her the best results that you'll get are gonna be in monopyro with singling or and you might be all right with on your mouth again right like it depends on how much resistance or an option you get you'll get good results out of playing her in a hyper Bloom team where you don't use any of her skills just because yeah three unit hyperloom team is good you can actually use her skill in a hyperbloom team and just have some of those hyperloom be virgins instead it's not like that's too bad I don't know what to say I don't know what to do it's just not looking great anyways everything about herb is worse than I expected yeah you know what that's not actually true there is one thing about her that's better than I expected and that's how fun it is to not kill enemies how fun it is to actually be able go through a full rotation against an enemy so honestly mostly accurate pre-release things that I like for Gore and and like should have mentioned hyper teams like Wanderer where she's fine but still generally worth some Toma although this is one of my most accurate pre-releases so far apart from a little bit of the cope that I that I injected into myself in this portion of the video yeah there are ways that they could have made her better and they won't because they don't care like they very clearly don't care that'll be that I hope you enjoyed your stay I hope you learned a thing or two and I hope you're not as disappointed as I am because honestly man but uh yeah don't forget to do the usual YouTube stuff like comment subscribe check me out on Twitch 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Published: Tue Mar 14 2023