THROUGH. MARTHA? >> Martha: DAVID, THANKS VERY MUCH. WITH THAT, WE BRING IN MARK LYTLE, ATTORNEY FOR GARY SHAPLEY. HE'S NOT REACTED TO THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS STORY. MARK LYTLE, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. THANKS. >> Martha: TOP LINE, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION AND WHAT IS YOUR CLIENT'S REACTION NOW THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT OF HIS TESTIMONY BEFORE CONGRESS IS OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE AND ALSO THE SLAP ON THE WRIST THAT HUNTER BIDEN GOT BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT YOUR CLIENT WATCHED THROUGHOUT THIS CASE FOR SEVERAL YEARS? >> WELL, MARTHA, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ITS IMPORTANT TO MY CLIENT, AGENT SHAPLEY TO COME FORWARD. HE WANTED TO COME AS A WHISTLE-BLOWER IN A PROTECTED FASHION. IT COULD BE THE LIGHT OF DAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN RELEASED THAT REALLY GIVES A LOT OF SUPPORT TO WHAT AGENT SHAPLEY IS SAYING. IN THE BEGINNING WHEN HE WANTED TO COME FORWARD, WE SAID IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT AGENT SHAPLEY'S WORDS BUT THERE'S DOCUMENTS THAT SUPPORTED WHAT HE HAD TO SAY THAT SUPPORT HIS CREDIBILITY. WE THINK THOSE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN RELEASED. >> Martha: SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THIS IS DAVID WEISS. A QUOTE FROM DAVID WEISS IN OCTOBER OF 2022. THIS IS AROUND THE TIME THAT YOUR CLIENT SAYS THAT HE HIT HIS RED LINE WITH THIS THING. HE WAS TOLD AFTER YEARS, STARTED IN 2018, THEY CONNECTED HUNTER BIDEN, ONE OF HIS PHONE NUMBERS TO AN AMATEUR PORN WEBSITE. THAT'S WHAT BEGIN THIS WHOLE THING. SO AFTER YOUR CLIENT WORKED ON THIS ACCOUNT FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON THIS CASE, SUDDENLY IN 2022, THEY SIT DOWN AND THE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, WEISS, WHO WAS PRESENT FOR THE MEETING, SURPRISED US BY TELLING US ON THE CHARGES, I'M NOT THE DECIDING OFFICIAL ON WHETHER CHARGES ARE FILED. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, YOUR CLIENT DECIDED THAT HE NEEDED TO GO PUBLIC WITH ALL OF THIS. SO THERE'S A DISCREPANCY HERE. YOU HEARD MERRICK GARLAND. HE SAID WEISS WAS ALWAYS IN CONTROL. YOU HEARD WEISS SAY TO YOUR CLIENT, I'M NOT ACTUALLY. >> I WOULD LOVE TO POINT PEOPLE TO SOME OF THE RECORDS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN RELEASED YESTERDAY. EXHIBIT 10 TO GARY SHAPLEY'S TRANSCRIPT IS AROUND PAGE 178 OF THE TRANSCRIPT, IT'S A COPY OF THE E-MAIL THAT GARY SHAPLEY, WHERE HE TOOK CONTEMPORANEOUS NOTES OF THAT MEETING WITH U.S. ATTORNEY WEISS. IT WASN'T JUST GARY SHAPLEY. THAT WAS A SENIOR LEADERSHIP MEETING AT THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WAS ATTENDED BY THE SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE FROM THE IRS, ATTENDED BY GARY SHAPLEY HIMSELF AND ATTENDED BY THE SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE FROM THE FBI AND THE ASSISTANT SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE FROM THE FBI. GARY SHAPLEY WROTE TO HIS SUPERIORS AND DESCRIBED THE MEETING. HE SAID WEISS STATED THAT HE IS NOT THE DECIDING PERSON ON WHETHER CHARGES ARE FILED. AND HE DESCRIBED THE WHOLE EVENTS THAT WEISS LAID OUT AT THAT MEETING, WHICH WAS HIS RED LETTER MEETING. WEISS SAID HE TRIED TO GO TO THE D.C. U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY WOULDN'T APPROVE IT. HE WAS TRYING TO CHARGE IT ELSEWHERE IN CALIFORNIA. HE WAS TRYING TO SEEK SPECIAL COUNSEL AUTHORITY AND THEY -- THAT GOT DENIED. SO THIS WAS A SHOCKER TO THE AGENTS THAT WERE PRESENT. OF NOTE AT THIS E-MAIL THAT IS IN EXHIBIT 10 IS THE FACT THAT SPECIAL AGENT SHAPLEY SENT THIS UP THE CHAIN TO HIS COMMAND INCLUDING TO DARRELL WALDON AND ASKED HIM, DID I GET THIS RIGHT? HE SAID YES, YOU DID. IF HE GOT IT WRONG, DARRELL WOULD HAVE SAID NO, I NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. THERE IS CREDIBILITY, CORROBORATION OF WHAT SPECIAL AGENT SHAPLEY IS SAYING. >> Martha: THERE'S A CLEAR DISCREPANCY HERE. IT WAS ALL MINIMIZED AFTER FIVE YEARS OF INVESTIGATION TO A COUPLE OF TAX CHARGES AND A GUN CHARGE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CHARACTERIZED AS A SLAP ON THE WRIST TO MOVE THIS THING ALONG. THEY SAY IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CLOSED. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS. THIS IS WHEN THE FBI KNEW THAT THE LAPTOP THAT THEY WERE GIVEN, BECAUSE THEY START WITH THIS IMPORTANT SITUATION. THEY HAVE A LINK TO HUNTER BIDEN'S PHONE, TEXTS. THAT LINKS THEM -- ONCE THEY GET THIS LAPTOP, THIS INFAMOUS LAPTOP, ON NOVEMBER 6 OF 2019, THE FBI CASE AGENT, JOSH WILSON, CALLED UP THE COMPUTER SHOP OWNER, JOHN PAUL, AND GOT THE DEVICE NUMBERS FROM HIM. WE BOUNCED THOSE DEVICE NUMBERS OFF OF THIRD PARTY RECORDS AND SHOWED IT WAS IN FACT HUNTER BIDEN'S DEVICE. SO THAT IS IN THE FALL OF 2019. SO HOW IS IT THAT A YEAR LATER, RIGHT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT CHEVROLET ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, 51 INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS ARE CLAIMING THAT IT'S PROBABLY RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION, PROBABLY NOT BELONGING TO HUNTER AT ALL. WERE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE NOT AWARE WHAT THE FBI ALREADY KNOW A YEAR EARLIER? >> NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT ANY ALLEGATIONS OF THIS INFORMATION. IN FACT, THE IRS DIDN'T HAVE THE AGENTS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE, WEREN'T ALLOWED ACCESS TO THE LAPTOP. SO THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON LEADS. I THINK IT LEADS TO A QUESTION ABOUT THE WHATS APP MESSAGE THAT'S BEEN GETTING EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. >> Martha: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN THE TESTIMONY AROUND PAGE 190, IN EXHIBIT 11, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS WHATS APP MESSAGE DIDN'T COME FROM THE LAPTOP OR ANY NEFARIOUS SOURCE. GARY SHAPLEY TESTIFIED THAT THEY DID A SEARCH WARRANT, THEY GOT AHOLD OF HUNTER BIDEN'S iCLOUD ACCOUNT AND DID A SEARCH WARRANT TO APPLE TO THE APPLE CLOUD WHERE THEY ACCESSED HUNTER BIDEN'S WHATS APP MESSAGES AND OTHER INFORMATION. AND SO THIS IS CREDIBLE. THIS COMES FROM A CREDIBLE SOURCE. IT'S INFORMATION THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE DEALINGS WITH THE CHINESE ENERGY COMPANY AND THE INCOME THAT HUNTER BIDEN RECEIVED. I WILL SAY THIS. YOU'LL SEE IN THE TESTIMONY THAT THE AGENTS WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS. THE PROSECUTORS TOLD THEM NOT TO BECAUSE WELL MAYBE HUNTER BIDEN WAS PUFFING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THE AGENT SAID, LET'S GET THE GPS LOCATION OF THE TWO OF THE FATHER AND THE SON AND LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE IN THE SAME ROOM AT THAT TIME. AND THE PROSECUTOR SAID WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. SO CLOSED ANOTHER DOOR ON THE INVESTIGATION TO MAKE WHAT IS RELEVANT TO THIS CASE. THIS HAPPENED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT GARY SHAPLEY WANTED TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY COULD SEE AND THIS COULD SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. >> Martha: YEAH, I THINK THIS IS FASCINATING. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT DID YOUR CLIENT -- WHAT DID THEY TELL HIM WHEN HE SAID WHY CAN'T WE PURSUE THIS LOCATION INFORMATION ON THIS WHATS APP TEXT ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT WAS INVOLVED IN HIS SON'S BUSINESS DEALINGS IN CHINA? >> THROUGHOUT THE INVESTIGATION, THERE WAS A RELUCTANCE TO ENGAGE ANY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS THAT INVOLVED PRESIDENT BIDEN. AND THIS INCLUDES IN THE TESTIMONY THE EFFORTS WHERE THEY HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO DO A SEARCH WARRANT AT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S GUEST HOUSE WHERE HUNTER BIDEN STAYED. THEY HAD INFORMATION THAT WAS INFORMATION THAT WAS RELEVANT TO THE INVESTIGATION LOCATED THERE. WHEN THE AGENTS PROPOSED IT, THE AUSA LESLIE WOLF, SAID WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. THERE'S NO WAY WE WOULD GET THAT APPROVED. YET ANOTHER SIGN THAT IS CONTRARY TO THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WEISS HAD ALL THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTED TO DO IN THE CASE. BECAUSE SHE'S AN AUSA FOR, YOU KNOW, UNDER EMPLOYMENT BY U.S. ATTORNEY WEISS. >> Martha: SO LET ME -- I WANT TO GIVE YOU NEW INFORMATION THAT WE JUST GOT THAT JACQUI HEINRICH IS REPORTING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. THIS IS A STATEMENT FROM HUNTER BIDEN'S LAWYER WHO NOW IS RESPONDING TO ESSENTIALLY TO THIS TEST THAT SHOWS THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHAKEDOWNISH LANGUAGE I'D SAY TO THIS CHINESE OFFICIAL WHO IS CONNECTED TO THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY AND TO THIS ELECTRIC COMPANY THAT HUNTER ENERGY COMPANY THAT HUNTER WAS INVOLVED WITH WITH HIS DEAL. SO HE BASICALLY SAYS THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE FIVE-YEAR LONG INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY THE DOJ AND CONCLUDED THIS WEEK, WHICH RESULTED IN MY CLIENT FOR TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR TWO MISDEMEANORS TO PAY TAX PAYMENTS AND A FIREARMS CHARGE. HE GOES ON TO SAY THE DOJ INVESTIGATION COVERED A PERIOD WHICH WAS A TIME OF TURMOIL AND ADDICTION FOR MY CLIENT. ANY VERIFIABLE WORDS OR ACTIONS OF MY CLIENT IN THE MIDST OF A HORRIBLE ADDICTION ARE SOLELY HIS OWN AND HAVE NOT CONNECTION TO ANYONE IN HIS FAMILY. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT, MARK? >> WELL, I -- JUST SO YOU AND THE VIEWERS KNOW, AIM FORMER CAREER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR. I PROSECUTED CRIMINAL TAX CASES. ONE THING THAT THE VIEWERS SHOULD UNDERSTAND IS THE INFORMATION AND THE CHARGES THAT HUNTER BIDEN IS SET TO PLEAD GUILTY TO, THE TWO MISDEMEANORS, THOSE ARE TAX OFFENSES. ALL TAX OFFENSES REQUIRE A WILLFULNESS. A HEIGHTENED WIL FULLNESS, IF YOU WILL. THE STANDARD IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS TO PROVE THAT THERE'S AN INTENTIONAL VIOLATION OF A KNOWN LEGAL DUTY. THAT IS NO DIFFERENCE, WHETHER IT'S A MISDEMEANOR OR WHETHER IT'S A FELONY. SO WHEN -- WHAT IS IT? DOES HE NOT HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM WHEN IT'S A MISDEMEANOR BUT HE HAS A DRUG PROBLEM WHEN IT'S A FELONY? THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAILURE TO PAY AND TAX EVASION IS THE EXISTENCE OF ONE FALSE STATEMENT. THEN IT'S A FELONY. THERE'S CLEARLY A LOT OF HIDING FROM THE TAX RETURNS THAT HAS COME OUT YESTERDAY. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS, IF I COULD, COMPLIMENTS TO CHRIS CLARK, FOR GETTING A GREAT DEAL FOR HIS CLIENT. EVERY DEFENSE ATTORNEY WOULD LOVE THAT DEAL. I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT IN 25 YEARS AS A PROSECUTOR TO GET THAT KIND OF DEAL. ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS WHY IS CHRIS CLARK, THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY, CARRYING THE WATER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE? I THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SHOULD DO SOME EXPLAINING HERE AS TO WHY THIS MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE RESULTED IN TWO MISDEMEANOR CHARGES AND A RECOMMENDATION OF NO JAIL TIME. >> Martha: YEAH, I GUARANTEE YOU ANY NEXT GUEST AGREES WITH YOU. HE THINKS THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION TO WHAT WENT ON AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT REPRESENTED CLIENTS IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS THAT SAY MY CLIENT NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS. I WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST ATTORNEY IN THE WORLD IF I PULLED THIS OFF. SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THE QUESTION HERE. MARK, I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO JOIN US. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A VERY BIG STORY. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO MR. SHAPLEY AS WELL IF HE WANTS HIS OWN THOUGHTS O
