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This is Ascent Milwaukee. A gorgeous combo luxury apartment and retail space. But if you
look closely, you might notice something special about this building… Figured it out yet? It’s made
out of wood. That’s right, aside from a concrete garage and elevator shafts this 25 story-tall
building is made almost entirely from timber, making it the tallest mass timber building in
the world. It might not hold this title for long, as mass timber is rapidly growing in
popularity due to a host of benefits including sustainability. But how are
wooden skyscrapers possible? And isn’t it a little foolish to make a timber tower
when a little thing called “fire” exists? I’m Matt Ferrell … welcome to Undecided. No bones about it, Ascent is an architectural
achievement, and though it's the tallest mass timber building, competitors for the title
seem to be popping up almost everywhere. So what techniques have made wooden skyscrapers
possible, why are they gaining popularity now? Well, starting in the 1980s we developed a
handful of techniques that combined lumber in new and exciting ways, making it stronger
than the sum of its parts. Collectively known as engineered wood or composite lumber products,
these materials first gained popularity in the 1990s, but with climate concerns only growing, the
popularity of mass timber buildings has started to reach a kind of critical mass. There are a lot
of variations on these mass timber materials, and we’re still developing new techniques, so
I’ll just touch on a few to give you an idea for how they’ve allowed us to push wooden
structures to new heights - literally! First up is Cross-Laminated Timber
(or CLT), which is made by gluing sheets of lumber together at right angles.
Normally wood is strongest along the grain, so by alternating the direction of the grain,
CLT is strong all over! Wood is typically stronger in tension than in compression,
and by varying the direction of the boards, some sections of the wood are in tension at all
times. This makes it ideal for panelized jobs, the kind of stuff you’d ordinarily have to use
concrete and rebar for, large, flat expanses like floors and walls. But CLT is lighter
and stronger than concrete … or even steel. Then there’s Glue-Laminated Timber (Glulam), which
is essentially CLT but all the grain runs in the same direction. This might make it seem inferior
at first, but this means it excels in applications where you only need strength along a single axis.
Think of support pillars and beams. It's still incredibly strong - Glulam is one-sixth the weight
of concrete and one-tenth the weight of steel, but it’s been proven to have a higher resistance
to lateral-torsional buckling than steel. Engineered lumber isn’t limited to just these
two types, but these are the big ones to know. This all very interesting, but to paraphrase Dr.
Ian Malcom: Just because we can, does that mean we should? Why construct buildings out of wood
when we’ve done just fine with concrete and steel? Mass timber buildings actually have surprising
environmental benefits. Steel and concrete are responsible for a lot of carbon emissions.
Every ton of steel produced in 2018 emitted a whopping 1.85 tons of carbon on average.
Though pound for pound the concrete industry produces less carbon than steel, just
0.92 lbs of C02 per pound of cement, that’s still a lot of carbon because it's the
most popular building material on earth.. And speaking more broadly, the building and
construction sector alone accounted for 36% of final energy use and 39% of energy
and process-related CO2 emissions in 2018. But logging a bunch of forests for their timber
doesn’t sound like it's going to help the climate. And while that could true, there’s some nuance
to it. Let’s look at Norway. They’re forestry policies have made them a world leader in mass
timber buildings. When I spoke to Jason Korb on my Still TBD podcast, the Principal Architect
at Korb + Associates Architects who designed the Ascent building in Milwaukee, he had this
to say about how the trees were sourced: > “At Ascent, which we're gonna be talking
about, our structural engineer estimates that even without planting new trees
to replace the ones that are harvested, which they do by the way, the wood
fiber in that building will be replaced by natural growth. In our case in North American
forests, the analysis was done, in approximately 25 minutes. And again, that's without planting any
new trees. And the folks that supply this timber, you know, for every one they take, they plant
two or three because they own their own forest. It's in their interest to keep them healthy.”
-Jason Korb<!--05:36 in original interview--> The environmental benefits seem pretty
clear. Just one cubic meter of glulam timber stores about seven hundred kilograms
of carbon dioxide, which is just phenomenal. On top of the carbon capture, lumber is less
energy-intensive to make than cement or steel, which means even less carbon emissions. In
fact, its estimated that building a city out of mass timber could save us 106 billion tons of
C02. And if we go about it sustainably (again, might be easier said than done), a push
for more wooden buildings could mean a push for more forests, which obviously
have a lot of other benefits to offer. But isn’t building a tall structure
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you for supporting the channel. So back to the question: isn’t building a tall structure
out of wood just a massive fire hazard? Surprisingly, no, as long as it is done
right. Timber does of course burn, but at a very predictable rate and in a very predictable
fashion. For comparison, steel tends to warp and buckle in weird ways around 1300°F(~700°C),
but this can occur at temperatures as low as 200°F (121°C).[16] And concrete can start
explosively spalling at just 390°F (200°C). In contrast, timber’s predictability means
buildings can be reliably engineered to stay standing for long periods of time.
We can even boost this durability with engineering tricks like flame retardant
coatings or sacrificial layers of timber that the fire has to chew through before
it gets to the structural components. In testing, CLT retained its structural
integrity while on fire for around two hours, while Ascent is rated for three hours! This
puts it on par with concrete and steel, as per the International codes, and gives
people plenty of time to escape, and gives emergency services a reliable relative safety
window to enter the building, help evacuate it, and put the fires out, etc... Cooler yet, it’s
possible for the wood to fireproof itself. > “The timber sections in mass timber buildings
in ascent are up to over 40 inches in depth. And so basically, imagine you're camping and you
throw a gigantic log on the campfire. It doesn't burn. I mean, it's there in the morning
when you wake up. And so what happens is when you get sections of wood that are
that large, unless they're subjected to spectacular levels of energy, the outer layer of
that wood chars and the char layer prohibits the flow of oxygen into the center of the member.
And the wood basically fireproofs itself. And that's been proven in
test after test.” -Jason Korb Factors like airflow and other flammable
materials present will affect this, but this is proven in testing. > “What they found was that they're burning
this thing in a chamber for three hours. The exterior of the members are at 1200
degrees F, but in the center it's still 75 degrees F. That's how well the protective
layer works.” -Jason Korb<!--10:24--> Another benefit of timber buildings is
the speed and ease of their construction. Architects can construct a 3D blueprint
of a building in modeling software, allowing pieces of engineered wood to be
machinecut to precisely the right size before they’re transported to a building site.[12] As
they’re only ordering exactly what they need, this method cuts down on waste, and is seen as a
way of ‘risk-proofing’ the construction process. My own new house was actually built in a similar
way. And since we’ve measured twice and cut once, so to speak, the actual construction process
becomes a relatively simple matter of just putting the pieces together, kinda like LEGO.
Because wood is lighter and easier to work with than concrete or steel, most of the work can be
completed quickly with just a small team and a few power tools. Together, these features mean each
floor in a mass timber building can be completed in as little as 5 days – that's 20% to 50% faster
than traditional methods depending on who you ask. > “You also gain great efficiencies in
construction speed because it's all prefabricated and other benefits. So there's carbon capture,
there's speed, there's carbon emissions during construction. For example, we saved thousands
of truck trips by concrete mixing trucks to the job site, as opposed to a concrete building. At
Ascent the timber structure is 19 stories tall. It was delivered by one truck. One truck and
one driver just going back and forth between our project site and the port of Milwaukee where
the timber was staged.” -Jason Korb<!--17:21--> The prefab-focused model does have a couple of
weaknesses though. Returning to our LEGO analogy, if the piece you need breaks or gets lost, there
isn’t a back up waiting to go. You also can’t make one from scratch onsite. The custom part has to
be rebuilt, which will take additional time and money. And shipping stuff, especially stuff as big
and heavy as construction materials, comes with a hefty financial and environmental cost. This also
means timber buildings probably aren’t going to be everywhere. Regions without locally available,
sustainable sources of wood will find the shipping and fabrication costs outweigh timber buildings’
potential financial and environmental benefits. Engineered lumber techniques are still in their
infancy, and though the price has come down, for now they’re still around 26% more expensive
than the old standbys. Though it's also possible for timber to be financially competitive,
mostly due to the time and labor savings. And according to some researchers the
availability of lumber does mean the capital costs are 4.2% cheaper for mass
timber buildings than concrete and steel. > “It's interesting. The material,
at least in 2020 or even today, in most markets cost more. So the cost premium
is easy to quantify. Concrete costs $35 a square foot, timber costs $40. You add that up
across hundreds of thousands of square feet, that's a big number, but there are savings
that are a little more difficult to quantify. For instance, Ascent is built on poor soils,
which means that we had to drive steel piles up to 180 feet into the ground … the pile material
is huge. Steel pipes filled with concrete. Because the timber is so much lighter than concrete, we
had to drive approximately a hundred fewer piles than we would have if it was a concrete building.
We saved a month on schedule because of that, in addition to the cost of the piles and
saving the environmental impact of those piles. Another example is if this was a concrete
building on the day they were pouring a deck, there would have been 30
to 40 workers on the deck. In a timber building, we have eight
to 10.” -Jason Korb<!--19:05--> And the costs should continue to fall as mass lumber techniques and
materials become more common. > “If we were to design this building in 2023,
it would not be built the way it was built in 2020 because the technology is advancing so fast
that things that we had to do to connect pieces, for instance, in 2020 … New connections have been
designed and tested since then, that will cost much less money and they will make this technology
more widely available.” -Jason Korb<!--31:17--> ## What’s on the horizon? While the benefits of mass timber buildings
have yet to be conclusively proven, their promise — plus the admittedly very cool
aesthetic — has been more than enough to entice several groups into greenlighting structures
like Ascent Milwaukee all around the globe.
Scandinavia is leading the wooden charge here, helped in part by their massive spruce and
pine forests and long history of forestry. This has led to some stunning timber or
hybrid concrete/timber buildings like SR Bank’s headquarters in Stavanger and the
Kilden Performing Arts Center in Kristiansand. The crowning jewel, though, is arguably
the Mjøstårnet. Found in Brumunddal, the Mjøstårnet is a combo hotel and
apartment building. At 280 feet tall, it was, until Ascent’s completion, the tallest
mass timber building in the world. It was so tall, in fact, that the architects had to
add some cement to the upper floors to stop it from swaying in the wind.
And at a price tag of $113 million, it wasn’t cheap. But the building is gorgeous, and
has become a tourist attraction in its own right. And if the calculations are to be believed, it’s
sequestering over 2,000 tons of carbon dioxide. There are even more timber buildings on the
horizon, with almost too many to list. The most ambitious of all, Sumitomo Forestry in Japan, has
proposed a 70-story tower composed of 90% wood. If completed as planned, this will far and away
be the tallest mass timber building in the world, and will feature several large balconies
for plants, giving it a very organic feel. It is important to realize that mass timber
is an engineered material, not simply logs or twisted boards from the home improvement
store. While there may be some threat of fire, the mass timber structures are expected to
perform comparably with steel and concrete structures. Furthermore, the city fires of over
a century ago also occurred when open flames in buildings were more common- candles for lighting,
indoor smoking, wood stoves for heat and so on. So is mass timber the way forward? Will
the environmental benefits encourage more and better forestry as they’ve
done in Norway, or will an increased demand for mass timber lead us to plunder
our forests? These are serious questions, and there doesn’t seem to be _clear-cut_
answers to them at the moment. Still, quicker, quieter construction, and better for
the environment? That’s an enticing proposition, one that’s well worth exploring. Be sure to check
out my full interview with Jason on Still TBD. So what do you think? Jump into the comments and
let me know. And be sure to check out my follow up podcast Still TBD where we'll be discussing some
of your feedback. Thanks to all of my patrons, who get ad free versions of every
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