How Logic Proves Eternal Security | Pastor Roger Jimenez @ Soul Winning Conference

[Music] [Music] you [Music] [Music] all right well we're there in first Peter chapter number three I'm sorry top number one I'm gonna I want you to look down at verse number three here in a second but before I uh before I start I need to clear the air with a couple of things first of all pastor Anderson gave me some of his time alright so I'm gonna go until about eight a little bit before eight so don't be looking at the clock we figured that out all right the other thing just to clear the air just so you're not distracted alright five foot four okay just you don't you don't have to spend the entire night wondering you know now I'll just let you know and then that way we can just you know some of you are tall good for you alright so with Saul you know and Goliath so good alright first Peter chapter one are you there look down at verse number three notice what the Bible says blessed be the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ which according to his abundant mercy has begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead tonight I am preaching on the subject of eternal security for those of you that maybe are not familiar with that that is a doctrine that teaches that once you're saved you're always saved and you can never lose your salvation and I want to start in this passage because I like the wording here in verse number four it says to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that fadeth not away notice this word reserved in heaven for you today my wife and I and our what our youngest daughter were traveling here and our flight got delayed and we barely made it but you know as the shuttle bus picked us up from the airport and dropped us off in front of the hotel when I was walking into the hotel I was worried about a lot of things but one thing I was not worried about was whether or not we had a room to sleep in tonight you know why because we had made a reservation there was a reservation waiting for us and the Bible says here that we have an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that fadeth not away reserved in heaven for you now pastored Olelo mentioned that as well the reservoir patience that we have in salvation notice verse five who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time the title of the sermon tonight is how logic proves eternal security how logic proves eternal security and the reason for that is because you know we serve a very logical God you don't have to turn there but in Isaiah chapter 1 and verse 18 the Bible says this come now let us reason together saith the Lord the Bible says that we can reason with God we can logic with God and not not in a questioning type of way but we can study the Bible we can learn what the Bible says and then we can logic through those doctrines we can logic through those teachings and and see how they make sense and see how they are easy to be understood and tonight what I'd like to do is give you a 6 statements I'm gonna give you six statements tonight that kind of prove how the doctrine of eternal security not only is it biblical and it's Scripture and we're gonna see that from the Word of God tonight but it just makes sense it's a logical doctrine logic itself along with the Word of God will prove eternal security now I'd like you to write these statements down I'll give them to you several times if you've got a pen handy or even if you don't have a child sitting on your lap or something like that they're a little wordy but I'd like you to write them down logic proves eternal security how or why why does logic prove eternal security number one tonight and like it write this statement down if any sin here's how logic proves eternal security if any sin can cause you to lose your salvation then every sin can cause you to lose your salvation something that people who believe you can lose your salvation don't understand is that if any sin can cause you to lose your salvation then every sin can cause you to lose your salvation because today you've got people who think well only certain sins or only major sins they're only big sins can cause you to lose your salvation but I would submit to you tonight that that is not the case you're there in first Peter going to the book of first John first John chapter 3 if you're there in first Peter you're just going to go past second Peter into the book of first John 1st John chapter 3 and look down at verse number 4 first John chapter 3 and verse 4 and first John chapter 3 and verse 4 we they verse at the fines sin for us it's always good to allow the Word of God to serve as its own dictionary allow the Bible to define itself and here in first John 3:4 the Bible says this whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law for sin is the transgression of the law the Bible defines for us here that sin is the transgression of the law the word transgression or transgress means to go beyond the limits or to cross boundaries we would say you know that sin is the breaking of God's law now when it comes to sin here's what you need to understand and when it comes to the breaking of God's law here's what you need to understand there are sins of commission that's when you break God's law right that's when you break the thou shalt nots but there are also sins of omission that's when you fail to do all of those those shouts everything God has commanded us to do go to James chapter number 4 if you go go backwards there you're gonna do me a favor keep your place there in first John because we're gonna leave it we're gonna come back to it so put a ribbon or a bookmark or something there but go to James chapter 4 and you're gonna go backwards you're gonna go past first John 2nd John I'm sorry a second of first Peter into the book of James and then do me a favor and put a ribbon or a bookmark there because we're gonna go back and forth James chapter 4 verse 17 notice what the Bible says therefore to him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not to him and his sin so notice not only do we sin when we transgress God's law but we sin when we don't do that which we know we should do or we ought to do a perfect example soul-winning you know you should go but you don't go that's a sin look you're not you're not right with God if you're not a soul winner you're not following Christ if you're not fishing for men and the Bible says therefore to him that know what to do good and doing it not to him it is sin so there are sins of commission that's when we do something wrong we break a law we break the bow shalt nots but there's the sins of omission that's when we don't do what we should do here's the point that I'm trying to make and here's what I want you to understand go to Galatians chapter number 5 when it comes to eternal security it's it's a very important doctrine so we're gonna it's going to be kind of like a Bible study tonight we're gonna be flipping a lot of pages going to a lot of different areas but go to Galatians chapter 5 while you go there I'm gonna read to you from Romans chapter 7 and let me say this and here's what here's what I'm trying to help you understand sin is defined as the breaking of God's law whether by by transgressing it or by not doing what God has commanded us to do what you need to understand is that because of that sin is directly connected to the keeping or the breaking of God's law how do we know when we sin it's connected to have we kept the law of God that's why you're going to Galatians 5 let me read for you from Romans chapter 7 but in Romans 7 Paul said this what shall we say then is the law sin god forbid nay I had not known sin but by the law for I had not known lust except the law had said thou shalt not covet so notice he is connecting the idea of sin and the law the Bible says therefore by the deeds of the law there so no flesh be justified in his sight for by the law is the knowledge of sin so there's a connection between the laws of God and the sins that we perform when we break the laws of God or when we fail to keep the laws of God why why is that important why do we need to understand that here's why once you add once you add the keeping of any part of God's law to salvation then you have to keep every part of God's law for salvation you say prove it well are you there in Galatians chapter 5 look at verse 1 notice what the Bible says stand fast therefore in the Liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage behold I Paul say unto you that if ye be circumcised now here Paul is speaking to these individuals who in their minds they believe that they have to be circumcised in order to be saved they are adding the keeping of the law to salvation now here's what you need to understand you we could replace if you be circumcised with any anything that people want to add to salvation today we could replace it with if you be baptized we could replace it with if you repent of your sins we could replace it with if you live a good life we could replace it with if you go to church and it would still be true if you be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing he says look you can't add the keeping of the law and expect that Christ is gonna profit you something you say why look at verse 3 for I testify again to every man that is circumcised he says look I'm I'm talking to everyone who wants to add the keeping of the law of God to salvation for I testify again to every man that is circumcised notice what he says that he is a debtor to do the whole law you say why does he say that because once you commit once you commit yourself to keeping any part of the laws of God you have committed yourself to keeping every part of the law of God for I testify I testify again to every man that is circumcised that he's a debtor to do the whole law notice Christ has become a nun effect unto you whosoever you are justified by the law ye are fallen from grace it's interesting because the people who teach that you can lose your salvation often want to use that phrase you've fallen from grace but the context the passage is actually the opposite he's saying look when you're trying to add because they'll say like oh no no you can fall from grace that means you can lose your salvation no actually when you try to add works to salvation that's when you've fallen from grace because the T's are all grace or it's all works but it's not a mix between you can't mix the two so here's what you need to understand if any sin if there's any sin because today people will say well you know you I try to live a good life I try to do right you know but if I find some major sin you ask somebody do you believe you could lose your salvation and they'll say well you know if I if I walked away from God or if I killed somebody or if I committed suicide you know if I didn't repent from it then maybe I could lose my salvation here's the problem with that if you if there's any sin that can cause you to lose your salvation then every sin will cause you to lose your salvation see the Bible says this it says for whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point he is guilty of all now look that verse is not teaching because people like to take that verse and say oh that verse is teaching that all sin is equal that words not teaching that all sin is equal all right and if you think that somebody stealing a stapler from their work which is wrong you know but if you think that somebody's stealing a stapler from their work is equivalent to a serial killing cannibal okay you need to really think that through you really need to add some you know logic to that argument because that makes no sense and obvious I'm not preaching on that this this evening but the Bible says for whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point he is guilty of all what is that verse teaching us now it's not teaching that all sin is equal but it is teaching that all sin will send you to hell any sin will send you to hell here's the point that I'm making if you can lose your salvation by any sin then you can lose your salvation by every sin and here's the point you're a sinner I'm a sinner Houston today Ison today we sin every day and if you if you can lose it for any reason then we would all lose it and no one would go to heaven see eternal security makes sense because if you say and if you teach and if you believe that there's any reason why you can lose your salvation if there's any reason why you can lose your salvation then there's every reason why you could lose your salvation if anything can cause you to lose your salvation than every single salvation and that's why logic proves eternal security let me give you a second point go to first John chapter number three first John chapter number three look at verse one if you kept your place there in first John go to first John chapter three here's the point number two if you're writing if you're taking notes how does logic prove eternal security what we saw number one that if any sin can cause you to lose your salvation then every sin can cause you to lose your salvation here's point number two a good father disciplines his children listen to me a good father disciplines his children a good father does not abandon his children a good father disciplines his children a good father does not abandon his children now I don't know if you know this but at Salvation you became a child of God first John chapter three are you there look at verse number one behold what manner of love the father hath stowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God isn't that wonderful that we might be called the sons of God now our dispensational friends are confused about that phrase you know they think that sometimes when it sends the sons of God it actually means Devils and actually means demons fallen angels all right they're a little confused about that but let me just you know assure you that every time the Bible uses the term sons of God it's talking about believers it's talking about a saint just talking about someone who has called upon the Lord for salvation you're there notice what he says therefore the world knows us not because it knew him not verse 2 beloved now are we the sons of God and it does not yet appear what we shall be but we know that we that when he shall appear we shall be like him for we shall see him as he is the Bible says in first John 1:12 but as many as received him to them gave he power to become the sons of God even to them that believe on his name when you got saved you became a son of God you became a child of God now here's what you need to understand go go to Hebrews chapter number 12 you're there in first John go to Hebrews chapter number 12 while you go there let me read for you from Matthew chapter 7 Matthew chapter 7 and verse number 11 it says this if he then being evil know how to give good gifts unto your children how much more shall your father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him here's what he's saying if you if it's possible for us as human beings to be good parents how much more is God the Father a good parent let me just ask you is God the Father a good father I mean is God the Father a good parent it is he's someone that cares for us that loves us that takes care of our needs and he's there for us well if that's the case and here's what you need to understand here's what every good father does they discipline their children when they do wrong Hebrews chapter 12 and verse 6 says this for whom the Lord loveth he chasing it and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth so listen you know people say oh well you know if you got on the road of sinning and doing wrong you're gonna lose your salvation no wait wait a minute if you could lose your salvation then that means that your father who's God the Father abandoned you that's not a good father you know what a good father does when you do wrong when you're in rebellion when you're sinning against him you know what he does he gives you a heavenly spanking he gives you a spiritual beating for you know to use a biblical word he the Bible says that who for whom the Lord loveth he changed to the scourgeth every son whom he receiveth so it doesn't make sense to say when you got say you became a child of God you became a son of God God became your father you were born again into the family of God you were born again into the heavenly family but then oh you you rebelled or you messed up or you sinned and he just abandoned you that doesn't make any sense you know what makes sense is what the Bible says that your heavenly father chases you that your heavenly father corrects you that your heavenly father disciplines you but your heavenly father does not abandon you Hebrews chapter 13 look at verse 5 you're there in Hebrews look at chapter 13 and verse 5 notice what the Bible says Hebrews 13 and verse 5 let your conversation be without covetousness and be content with such things as you have for he hath said and you may wonder to yourself you know what is the connection between covetousness contentment and this following statement but here's here's a falling statement I would never leave thee nor forsake thee that's eternal security you know when I got saved I became a child of God and God looked down at me and said I will never leave thee nor forsake thee and if he ever leaves me if he were forsakes me that would make him a liar and that would make him a terrible father but you know what a good father which we know our Heavenly Father is a good father he does not abandon his children but he will discipline destroy when they do wrong when they rebel when they go down the wrong road he will chasten them he will correct them but he will not forsake them and I'm not preaching on this but you know what I will never leave thee nor forsake thee what does that have to do with covetousness and contentment look when you know when God when you know that God will never leave you nor forsake you everything you've got is good enough I don't have to sit there and covet somebody else's house or somebody else's car and somebody else as well and how that what they're doing in the world you know what but you I don't have to look at the world I don't have to look the unsafe I don't have to look at unbelievers and covet what they have I can be content with such things as I have you say well possibly matters you don't have month but you know what I've got is God know what I've got is the Holy Spirit what I've got is salvation and when he said I won't ever leave thee nor forsake thee I got more than I deserve and I got more than all ever need so you know what quit looking at the world and quit coveting their stuff and quit thinking yourself well you know if I didn't do this so anything on Saturday then I could go work more and if I didn't do this Sunday morning Sunday night Wednesday night then I can do other thing if I you know if I didn't go in the ministry then I could live in a nice huh you've got God that's all you need I will never leave thee nor forsake you no logic proves eternal security you say how well if anything can cause you do this generation then every sin can cause you to lose your salvation well what you say how does logic proof eternal security well a good father discipline says children a good father does not abandon his children number three go to first John go back to first John if you kept your place there here's point number three salvation salvation is everlasting so if it ends it did not last forever does that just make logical sense salvation is everlasting so if it ends it did not last forever you're there in first John chapter five let me read for you from John 3:36 you know it he that believeth on the son what's that next word he that believeth on the son let's eat together ha everlasting life he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life and he that believeth not the son shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth on him verily verily I say unto you he that heareth my word and believeth on him that sent me hath everlasting life you know the Bible tells us that when you got saved everlasting life is not something you're going to have one day it's something you have it's something you have but we're to have means you own it you possess it it's in your possession you are holding it at that moment and the Bible tells us thank you sir appreciate it the Bible tells us that we have or we have everlasting life we get at the moment we believe he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life so here's the thing if God gives you everlasting life starting right now eternal light starting today if it ever ends then it didn't last forever if it ever ends then it was not everlasting see that doesn't make logical sense all throughout the Bible we're told that the gift of God is eternal life all throughout the Bible were told that salvation is everlasting life eternal life and look salvation will last forever it's everlasting life so if it ends it did not last forever there in first John 5 verse 10 he that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself he that believeth not God he that believeth not God is hello is it an option to not believe God you can choose not to believe God but here's what you're saying when you choose to do not believe God he that believeth not God hath made him a liar when you choose to not believe when the atheist chooses to say I will not believe they're not saying I don't believe in God they're just saying I believe God is a liar when he says that he is God it's not enough you know sorry you'll either believe or you don't believe and if you don't believe you're calling God a liar he that believeth not God has made him a liar because he believeth not the record that God gave of his son you're calling him a liar because he get you not believing the record that he gave him son what is the record look at verse 11 and this is the record what is the record that God had given to us eternal life and his and this life is in his son see when you say no it's not eternal no it's not everlasting no it will not last forever here's what you're doing you're calling God a liar in hope of eternal life which God that cannot lie promised before the world began see God promised everlasting life promised eternal life and if it ever ends if it ever stops that would make God a liar and you know there's one there's there's one thing God cannot do well there's several things aren't gonna do one of the things are cannot do is he cannot tell a lie now George Washington could lie but God can't lie God cannot lie he cannot lie he promised he gave us everlasting life which God that cannot lie promised before the world began see so if salvation if salvation which is everlasting if salvation which is very lasting never ends then that would mean it did not last forever that doesn't make any sense that's not logical you know what's logical is that when you got say he gave you everlasting life and it'll never end it'll never stop he will never take it away you know what makes sense is that when you got saved God became your your heavenly Father and he will discipline you but not abandon you you know what makes sense that there is no sin that can cause me to lose my salvation because I sent every day and if there's any sin that can cause me to lose my salvation then every sin will constantly lose my salvation and we're all sinners see we like to be you know proud and arrogant and hypocritical because you talk to these people that say they can lose their salvation and they're like well you know I believe there's some things you could do and they always give you a list right you asking for the list they give you a list and you know here's the truth they will always give you the list of the things they're not doing right so you know you asked one guy like well what can you do lose your like well you know I thought you know as long as you're not a drunkard as long as you know as long as you're not a drug addict as long as you're not you know this and that but then you'll talk to someone who's a drunkard and they're like well you know as long as you don't beat your wife you know it's like they're always just putting the lists just you know right where they can get to it no no you look if anything can cause you to lose your salvation every single cause you to lose domination it makes sense it's logical eternal security is actually a very logical doctrine number four go go to go to John chapter number 10 John chapter number 10 Matthew Mark Luke John John chapter 10 if anything can cause you to lose your salvation than every sin again cause you to lose your salvation a good father disciplines his children a good father does not abandon his children salvation is everlasting so if it ever ends it did not last forever here's number 4 how does logic prove eternal security number 4 if I can walk away from God if I can walk away from God because you know people you'll talk to people oh you believe you can lose your love away oh no I can't lose my salvation but I can walk away from it you know God will never take it away from me but I can't return it I can give it back here's the problem with that if I can walk away from God that would make me stronger than God what do you mean look at John chapter 2 verse 28 this is Jesus speaking and I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish by the way once he gives you eternal life if you ever perish that makes him a liar neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand Jesus says when you got saved you got place in the hand of the Lord Jesus Christ and he says look neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand verse 29 my father which gave them me is greater than all now when out focuses on that he's greater than all is there anyone greater according to this verse then then God the Father this is Jesus speaking he's greater than all and no man is able to pluck them out of my father's hand you know when you got saved you got put in the hands of the Lord Jesus Christ and then God the Father put his hand over that just to make sure just to make sure none would be lost just to make sure and here's what he's saying he's saying my father which gave them me is greater than all I love it because Jesus here he is he is it's like you know you and I do this you know when you used when you were in school at the playground you know my daddy can beat up your daddy well Jesus ain't my dad he can beat up your daddy and and then he's greater than all he says look my my father which came to me is greater than all don't miss us and no man no man is able to pluck them out of my father's head now look when it says no man you know that includes you too aren't you a man or a woman aren't you a human right aren't you a person if I who says no man is able to so people get this idea that you say well no no I when I III he won't take my salvation and I cannot lose my salvation but I can walk away from my salvation well here's the problem with that he's holding on to you and no man is greater than the father and no man is able to pluck them out of my father's hand so look if you can lose your salvation then then I don't know we're gonna have to start worshipping you I guess because if you can walk away from your salvation you know what that makes you that makes you greater than God that makes you stronger than God that you say oh uh you know III don't know that I can keep my salvation you don't have to keep it he keeps it for you it is his strength it is his power it is his mind that keeps us saved my father which gave them me is greater than all and no man is able to pluck them out of my father's hand go to Romans chapter eight you're there in John acts Romans Romans chapter eight Romans chapter eight verse number 38 Romans chapter 8 in verse 38 someone said this my faith may fail but his grip won't slip so I'm worried about my salvation you worried about God oh you don't need to worry about God God God got it handled well guess you worried God's good all right he's got it Romans chapter 8 verse 38 for I am persuaded that neither death nor life nor Angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth nor any other creature no creation there's nothing created on this earth that shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord you know what nothing can separate you from the love of God when you're saying there's no creature there's nothing that can take it if we can walk away from God and that would make me stronger than God and that just doesn't make any sense go to Ephesians chapter number 1 you're there in Romans 1st 2nd Corinthians Galatians Ephesians Ephesians chapter number 1 here's point number 5 Ephesians chapter number 1 logic proves eternal security how how does logic prove eternal security well if any sin can cause you to lose your salvation then every sink on shifu this job agent well a good father disciplines his children a good father does not abandon his children well salvations never lasting so if it ever ends then that means it did not last forever well if I can walk away from God and that made me stronger than God here's why number 5 if I can lose my salvation if I can lose my salvation based on the things I do and then my faith is really on me not Christ if I can lose my salvation based on something I did then my faith is really on myself it's not on Christ so you're there in Ephesians 1 look verse 13 in whom ye also trusted after that ye heard the word of truth have you noticed how it's always about he that heareth my words after ye heard the word of truth that's all a reference to the gospel my friends is how it's a soul winning you look people don't get saved because you hand them a tract people don't get saved because you hand them a Bible the natural man understand does not the things of the Spirit of God Paul said he said you know he asked for a prayer request he's asked for boldness that he said that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mysteries of God why because we must go and preach we must go and explain we have to open our mouths and boldly preach the gospel for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth to the Jew first and also to the Greek solook salvation doesn't just happen because God is a common isn't just makes it happen all right we must go we must go and preach we must go and explain we must go with the word and here he says in whom ye also trusted after that ye heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation in whom also after that ye notice this word believed I want you to notice he said and whom he also trusted in any sense in whom he also believed the word trust and believe are used interchangeably why is that because when we say believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved when we say that salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ or by believing in Jesus Christ we're not talking about believing like he exists we're talking about trusting him that's what salvation is my faith my belief is on him in the sense that I'm trusting that he is the one that's gonna save me or he is the one that has saved me from my sins and by the way works works because people get these false ideas about works works is when you are earning it and therefore you are trusting how you earned it it's not just cuz you asked for it or if you ask for it that's a work no like if you're asking for a free gift it's a free gift you know work the works part is when you're earning it when you're doing something to try to obtain it because look you're either trusting him or you're trusting yourself you're either trusting gamin here's what you need to understand and whom ye also trusted after that ye heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation in whom also after that ye believed you were sealed with that Holy Ohr with with that holy spirit of promise you got say the moment you believed and what did you do when you believe you trusted him here's what you need to understand when somebody says well you know I'm saved by Jesus Christ but you know if I fill in the blank I could lose my salvation as soon as you say but if I commit suicide but if I walk away from God but if I murder someone but if I commit adultery but if I do X Y & Z and don't repent of it but if I as soon as you say but if I now you we are revealing who you are really trusting because look if my salvation is dependent on if I think my trusting it's me I'm saved by Jesus Christ as long as I don't commit adultery I'm saved by Jesus Christ as long as I don't commit murder I'm saved by Jesus Christ as long as I don't commit suicide now look all those things are terrible since no Christian should be doing any of those things but listen to me you're either saved by Jesus Christ or you're not you're either trusting completely in whom ye also trusted you're either trusting completely in Jesus Christ or you're not and if you believe you didn't lose your salvation then your faith is not really on Jesus Christ your faith is on yourself and look here's what you need to understand people who fight us on eternal security people who reject eternal security people who do not believe that eternal security or not say they're not safe because they're not trusting in the finished work of Christ they're trusting in themselves and that's why this is so important when you go soul-winning because the old IFB they want date the way they talk soul-winning which I'm thankful for the way they the fact that they went soul winning and the fact that they taught us to go soul-winning back in years ago you know many of them have given up on sewing all together but you know the major problem at the old life be had and those that go soul-winning in the old life be still have is that they just forget there's a whole idea about eternal security they don't even bring it up they don't even talk about it they pray with people and then afterwards they kind of explain it listen or you know if they even do that they might mention it if they even do that here's a problem with that when you fail to explain eternal security you are doing a grave disservice to the individual you're giving the gospel to because in their minds they may be thinking oh yeah faith in Jesus and as long as I faith in Jesus and as long as I don't or as long as I - or as long as I whatever and here's the thing we've got to get that settled it's not Jesus and as long as nothing it's Jesus period it's Jesus Christ alone it is hid look in whom ye also trusted you're either trusting him you're trusting yourself and if I can lose my salvation if I can lose my salvation based on the things I've done then I then my face is not really on Christ it's on me I'm trusting myself and I'm not saying it and you're not saved and they're not saved number six logic proves eternal security how here's point number six if I have to keep my salvation by how I live my life then salvation salvation is of works if I have to keep my salvation by how I live my life then salvation is of works you know the verses he visas - eight nine for by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it's not of yourself it's not it's not something you produce it's not something you do and that not of yourselves what because it is the gift of God okay a gift my definition is free you don't have to earn it for by the word grace it means free it means it didn't come from you means you got something you did not deserve for by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is a gift of God not of works lest any man should boast salvation is not of works now here's what people say they'll say oh yeah you don't know I believe that salvation is not of works it's a free gift I receive it but then once I have it once I have it then if I you know commit suicide then I could lose it then if I fill in the blank then I could lose it here's what teens understand about that if I ask one of these young guys here and I said hey listen I'm gonna pay you 30 bucks to wash my van okay now when they work to wash the van I didn't give them a gift they earned that money okay but let me ask you this does it make a difference when I give them money I mean if I say hey you're gonna wash my van and when you're done I'm gonna pay you $30 today earn they earn the $30 if they if they do the work and then I pay them I'm not trying to trick you is that true amen they earned it right what if I said hey you know what watch my back I'm maybe $30 but you know I got to go run some errands and I think it'll be done before I get back I'm gonna give you the money now okay but here's the thing you better watch that man cuz I'm not God I'm coming back for that $30 he said you know he said he'd never take it away that's right that's not what I said right look if you're gonna earn it now look if I paid them before does that make it any less earning now look if I have to do good works either oh no no good works before salvation but after salvation you better live right if I have to do good works before or after it's works it's not free if I can if I have to work for it at any point then it's the Bible so does not it works I was a salvation is a free gift Sparrow says it's not something we earn and look today you people get this idea they say oh no oh well pastor Mathers here's what Jesus said you know well if you if you truly believe that then you'll do the works here's the problem with that Paul said in fact go to Romans chapter 4 I know you know the vs. bullets look at it Romans chapter 4 verse 4 Romans chapter 4 and verse 4 notice what he says not to him that worketh Romans chapter 4 verse 4 not to him that worketh now we didn't get to verse 5 yet right where's Forrest to him that worketh that's our Catholic friend that's our repent of your sins baptist friend that's our you know charismatic friend alright you're charismatic friend now ain't gotten over charismatic friends now to him that worketh is the reward what's the reward the reward is a gift of salvation now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace which is free but of debt why does it say that here's what it says if you're gonna try to work your way to heaven you're gonna be in debt the rest of your life you're never gonna pay it off you're never gonna pay off your sins you they don't matter how many good things you do you will never undo even if there's just one bad thing you've done you will never undo that now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace but of debt now we get to the Baptist where it's fine but to him that worketh not but to him that worketh not now look it doesn't say but to him that worketh a little bit you don't say but to him that worketh somewhat this guy did nothing he never went soul winning he never went to church he didn't show up for the soul-winning conference he did every eatin nothing he got saved and that's all but to him that worketh not but here's what he did do but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly his faith is counted for righteousness so although if they get saved you know they will do works will pardon think so Paul said it's possible for someone to do no works and all they did is believe and guess what they're saved because salvation is not of works because salvation is not something we earn on either side of the equation and it's not something we have to do that look should we work should we do right should we you know look should we shall we continue in sin that grace may abound god forbid but you know the the flip to that is if we continue in sin grace will abound moreover where sin abounded grace did much more abound you know that God has more Grace and you've got sin no let's shall we should we continue in sin that grace may abound god forbid but if we continue in sin grace will abound that's eternal security and look if you can if I if I have to keep my salvation if I have to keep my salvation by how I live my life if I have to keep my salvation by the things that I do then I then salvation is not a free game it's of works look you're there in Romans four look at Romans 3:20 therefore by the deeds of the law there should no flesh be justified in his sight for by the laws of knowledge of sin by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified at a sight Loui verse 28 therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law Romans chapter 11 turn there quickly Romans chapter 11 look at verse 6 Romans chapter 11 verse 6 say pastor Eman is I was like you're winding down no pastor Anderson gave me another 20 minutes so but let me let me make this point that I want to make a couple more points all right bonus points Romans 11:6 and if by grace and if by grace grace is free and if by grace he says if it's free then it is no more of works works is earning it here's what he saying if it's free you can't earn it does that make logical sense if it's free you can't pay for it and if by grace and there's no more of works otherwise grace is no more grace a look look if it's free you can't pay for it otherwise it's not free but if it be of works if you can earn it then it is no more grace if you can earn it then it's not free anymore otherwise work is no more work does that just make sense that just make logical sense now let me end by just giving just a couple of thoughts as far as we talked about how logic proves eternal security but I want you to send a couple of things about the logical balance to eternal security a couple of thoughts about the logical balance to eternal security we touched on one already so I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on him but oftentimes people will throw at us you know those who don't believe oh you're one of those once saved always saved and they'll say you're giving people a license to sin now last I checked we wouldn't need a license to say they're doing well just on unlicensed sinners you know just doing it all on their own but all you're giving people a license to say you know you're telling people they can sing now remember a good father disciplines his children my son despise not the chastening of the Lord neither beware of his correction for whom the Lord loveth he chase Smith even as a father every son whom he receiveth look we're not we're not saying hey be not deceived God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap we're not saying you can do whatever you want and nothing's going to happen to you what we're saying is you can do whatever you want and you're never going to lose your salvation you can do whatever you want and you've got an inheritance reserved for you in heaven but you know what on this earth God does chastise on this earth God does correct on this earth God does courage on this earth you do reput yourself so so make sure you don't if people get hung up on this idea like whoa you're just saying we can do what everyone make sure people understand no wait a minute a Heavenly Father disciplines his children a good father disciplines his children but he does not abandon his children there's another logical balance to turn a security I want you to look at go to Romans chapter 1 yeah you guessed it you knew I was gonna figure out a way to bring in reprobates into this sermon somehow you ever watch Psychopaths reprobates no now honestly oftentimes people will attack eternal security by saying so you just think that some person is just some pedophile can just you know molest children and rape people and kill and and you know but there they got saved so they're never gonna lose their salvation you know there is a balance to the doctrine of eternal security and it's called the reprobate doctrine now the reprobate doctrine does not teach that people can lose their salvation but it does teach us that there are certain sins that people commit and when they commit those sins we can identify the fact that those people were not saved have never been saved they're rejected of God are you there in Romans 1 verse 26 for this cause notice these words God gave them up for this cause God gave them up unto notice these two words vile affections vile affections people sometimes don't attack us they'll say Romans 1 doesn't mention pedophiles ok a grown man being attracted to a child would you call that a vile affection because if you if you wouldn't call it a vile infection you need to get away from me but if you say yeah that's a vile affection well then it's in Romans 1 then Romans 1 covers it for this cause God gave them up unto vile affections for even their women did change here's the words here's the key the natural use what is teaching us is there are some on natural sins now there are some things that are natural there are some there has no temptation taken you but such as is common to man there are some things that we're all tempted but there are some sins that are unnatural for even their women did change the natural use into that which is notice these words against nature and likewise also men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of the error which was me and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge nobody's worth God gave them over to a reprobate mind the word reprobate means rejected by God and without hope of salvation he says that what about what the Bible defines the Bible and dictionary com that's what it means rejected by God and without hope of salvation that's what the Bible says these people were rejected look anyone that gives themselves to on natural sins it's not just homosexuality it's any under let me say this homosexuality is unnatural it's not normal it's a vile affection it's disgusting but you know that includes pedophiles that includes bestiality that includes your Jeffrey Dahmer's your Ted Bundy's that includes so when anybody looks at these people they say well these people are just so disgusting and so terrible but they said they got say no having a form of godliness but denying the power there are no you say oh they got saved in prison they're lying to you they get saved they were rejected of God they're rejected by God and without hope of salvation see there is a balance there is a logical balance to the doctrine of eternal security what is it it's that God will discipline you so we're not giving you a license to sin God will chasten you God will correct you God you will reap what you sow but also the other logical balance eternal security is the reprobate doctrine not that these people lost their salvation but they were never saved to begin with they were rejected by God and there are some people that we need to just identify the fact these people are not safe so look when somebody sometimes it breaks your heart you're talking to someone at the door and maybe they don't come out and say but it becomes real apparent that maybe they themselves were abused as a child and they're saying wait a minute you're telling me that anybody can just do anything you know I'm not saying that we should go to Roman's one at every door please don't start that all right but sometimes it is appropriate sometimes it is appropriate to explain to people you know what there are some very vile and wicked people in this world God has rejected them there's no salvation for them there's no eternal security for them it's a logical balance to this idea of eternal security let me give you one more verse go to Jude Jude in verse number 24 there's one chapter in Jude Jude 24 Jude 1:24 I love this verse she was 124 now unto him that is able now unto him that is able I loved these words to keep you from falling and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy I love that song that we sing in the hymn book I brought a copy of it it's page number 264 and and and your handbook at home I'm sure once for all I love the words you ever just sit down and think about the words of these songs it says free from the law oh happy condition Jesus I've bled and there is remission cursed by the law and bruised by the fall God hath redeemed us once for all now are we free listeners there's no condemnation Jesus provides a perfect salvation come unto me o hear his sweet call come and he saves us once for all children of God don't listen this children of God o glorious calling surely His grace will keep us from falling passing from death to life at is called blessed salvation once for a one for although sinner receive it one for all oh brother believe it cling to the cross your burden will fall Christ hath redeemed us once for all let's pray together Heavenly Father thank you Lord for allowing us to study your word thank you father for allowing us to be able to look at the Bible and we believe it just because it's in the Word of God but we can reason and we get logic and we can see that it just makes sense and lord I pray you'd help us to always keep this doctrine of eternal security at the forefront of our minds especially as soul-winners lord help us to believe it help us to preach it help us to teach it I was to not be ashamed and thank your father forgiven us security in Christ we don't have to worry are we doing enough have we messed up but we know that we are secure that you can keep us from falling we loved your father and the matchless name of Christ we pray amen [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you

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