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the<font color="#CCCCCC"> ambassador bridge between Detroit</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> Windsor Ontario is one of the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">busiest border crossings in the country</font> Canadian<font color="#E5E5E5"> border services have just been</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">given a large infusion of funding to</font> target a rapidly<font color="#CCCCCC"> increasing problem gun</font> smuggling across<font color="#E5E5E5"> the country last year</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they seized 751 illegal guns but they</font> know that<font color="#E5E5E5"> many more are getting through</font> and contributing to<font color="#E5E5E5"> gun violence</font> superintendent Jason Crowley of the Windsor police says gun trafficking is driven by the lucrative market in Canada <font color="#E5E5E5">for unlicensed firearms you will see a</font> gun a firearm purchased in the<font color="#CCCCCC"> States</font> for<font color="#E5E5E5"> potentially an hour two hundred</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">three hundred dollars and they'll go</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on</font> the streets for $3,000 $3,500<font color="#E5E5E5"> so</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> there</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you lucrative</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for the people that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> are</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">involved</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in these kind of activities</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they hide them they hide them in cars</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> panels and their cars may be on them</font> all kinds<font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they're</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> ingenious to be</font> honest the way<font color="#E5E5E5"> they've come up with</font> hiding if stopping guns at busy border crossings is tough<font color="#E5E5E5"> imagine the challenge</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">in remote areas</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> like</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the Quebec Vermont</font> border<font color="#E5E5E5"> here the frontier is often marked</font> with a<font color="#CCCCCC"> pylon</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in the middle of a field</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and a slash cut through the woods that</font> goes for miles and miles there's an issue<font color="#CCCCCC"> here so then we started increasing</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">how many agents</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> we had</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> US border agent</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Bradley</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Curtis brought us to a remote</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">spot where you can see how easy it is to</font> sneak across so this is a border right <font color="#CCCCCC">here pretty much</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> everything on this side</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they say</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the United</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> States once you</font> cross this old fence<font color="#CCCCCC"> everything on this</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">side that's up in Canada I'm kind of</font> surprised<font color="#CCCCCC"> what is border security along</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> front Quebec border are there motion</font> detectors and<font color="#E5E5E5"> what is it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> along</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> word protect the border at this</font> point we do have<font color="#E5E5E5"> sensors we do have</font> camera we have technology that<font color="#E5E5E5"> helps us</font> monitor the border area [Music] one of the most remarkable gun trafficking plots in these parts began <font color="#CCCCCC">between the neighboring towns of Derby</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">line Vermont and Stansted Quebec which</font> share many facilities including the <font color="#E5E5E5">famous Haskell free library that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">actually straddles the border line by</font> tradition<font color="#E5E5E5"> Canadians are allowed to cross</font> over<font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> US side to enter the library</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">without clearing customs</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> if you go in</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">there you can see</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> there's a line that</font> separates the<font color="#E5E5E5"> two countries</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> separates</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> Opera House upstairs</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> there's books</font> on<font color="#CCCCCC"> the canyon</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> side they get checked out</font> in American<font color="#CCCCCC"> sides so very unique</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">situation</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it's a tricky thing for Border</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Services</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to handle it is yes there's a</font> lot of<font color="#CCCCCC"> these strange anomalies across</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">another border this happens to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> be one of</font> them<font color="#CCCCCC"> that we have to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> work around work</font> with in 2011<font color="#E5E5E5"> 34</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> year-old career criminal</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Alex</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">black goes from Montreal</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> came up</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> with a</font> clever plan to take advantage<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">unique library what he was doing was</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">basically he ended</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> up recruiting these</font> co-conspirators<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> what they did is</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">they were taking money</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> his money and go</font> down<font color="#E5E5E5"> to Florida</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to buy weapons</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> down in</font> the Tampa area<font color="#E5E5E5"> he had arranged to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">rendezvous at the library with his</font> co-conspirators<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> accomplices a man</font> and a woman entered<font color="#CCCCCC"> the library from the</font> US side<font color="#CCCCCC"> without</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> having to clear customs</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the man went to the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Washington had</font> deposited<font color="#E5E5E5"> a backpack containing</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> ten</font> handguns in the<font color="#E5E5E5"> wastebasket there mr.</font> blackest entered the library<font color="#CCCCCC"> from</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Canadian side</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and retrieved</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the gun bag</font> from the<font color="#E5E5E5"> washroom blaka said his</font> accomplices both left the<font color="#E5E5E5"> library going</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">in separate directions without raising</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the suspicions of the u.s. Border Patrol</font> parked nearby<font color="#E5E5E5"> a few weeks later black</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">hosts repeated the trick with ten more</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">guns in a backpack</font> this time the<font color="#E5E5E5"> border</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> patrol became</font> suspicious<font color="#E5E5E5"> and stopped the American</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">accomplices as they departed the library</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">something's not right here</font> you're<font color="#CCCCCC"> from Florida you're a rental car</font> why you<font color="#E5E5E5"> wired to ask a library</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> information was was documented and basically<font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was kind</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of one of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> our</font> building<font color="#E5E5E5"> blocks going forward</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">helped the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> overall investigation</font> the gun smugglers had to come up<font color="#CCCCCC"> with a</font> new plan<font color="#E5E5E5"> this time they focused on a</font> remote area<font color="#E5E5E5"> 30 kilometers east of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Stansted at a place called</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Wallace</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> pong</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">alexis Flacco's had his American</font> girlfriend<font color="#CCCCCC"> drop him off near the border</font> where he hoped to<font color="#E5E5E5"> cross undetected into</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the United</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> States with his</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> criminal</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">history and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the fact that he's</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Kenya</font> citizen he was<font color="#E5E5E5"> basically not allowed to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">make illegal entry in the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> United</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> States</font> so the only<font color="#E5E5E5"> way to for him to get into</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> United States was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to illegally enter</font> his girlfriend cleared customs<font color="#E5E5E5"> then</font> picked him up on<font color="#E5E5E5"> the US side the couple</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">drove off to her hometown of Tampa</font> Florida<font color="#CCCCCC"> to buy more</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> guns this was to be</font> their big score black<font color="#CCCCCC"> hos had his</font> friends legally<font color="#CCCCCC"> by 34 handguns in Tampa</font> days later he was<font color="#CCCCCC"> able to cross the</font> border at the<font color="#E5E5E5"> same spot carrying the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">guns he said he did his best</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to follow</font> the water's edge but he got lost<font color="#CCCCCC"> he</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">eventually made it to Canada</font> his girlfriend picked him up and they <font color="#E5E5E5">both traveled</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on to Montreal</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> his border</font> crossings<font color="#E5E5E5"> into and out</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> United</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">States</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> went</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> completely undetected</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I've</font> been with the United States<font color="#CCCCCC"> border</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">patrol for almost 25 years</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">there 285 miles of border we have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> over</font> just over 300<font color="#E5E5E5"> agents that are on the</font> road<font color="#CCCCCC"> we</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> can always</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> use more personnel we</font> can always use<font color="#CCCCCC"> more technology we do a</font> pretty good<font color="#CCCCCC"> job</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> detecting it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> we're not</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really at all places at all</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> times</font> Montreal police<font color="#E5E5E5"> later found some of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">lakal</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> seized guns</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> during drug raids</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font> US authorities were<font color="#CCCCCC"> able to trace them</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">first to his American girlfriend</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> then to him<font color="#E5E5E5"> he pled guilty in the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> US for</font> illegally trafficking 104 firearms<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font> served<font color="#E5E5E5"> almost two years in a Montreal</font> jail his Canadian lawyer<font color="#E5E5E5"> Eric Sutton is</font> not surprised by how easy it was<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">sneak across the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> border if that's really</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">what</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you want to do I think there are</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">multiple opportunities</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> geographically to</font> take advantage of<font color="#E5E5E5"> this border and there</font> is some<font color="#CCCCCC"> surveillance but they can't</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">possibly</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> control every every linear inch</font> of this border it's impossible it's inconceivable<font color="#CCCCCC"> you know they're</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> talking</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">about a handgun ban in Canada now</font> assault weapons ban<font color="#E5E5E5"> and what do you</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">think</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that would do to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the situation of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the border</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you know hard to say but</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">human behavior</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> would lead that you know</font> it would lead someone<font color="#E5E5E5"> to conclude that</font> if it's easier and cheaper<font color="#E5E5E5"> to get</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font> somewhere<font color="#E5E5E5"> else they might go that route</font> there's money to<font color="#CCCCCC"> be made</font> yes sir they're gonna try to<font color="#E5E5E5"> get it</font> across the<font color="#E5E5E5"> border</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> yes sir</font> back on the<font color="#E5E5E5"> Windsor</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Detroit border</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">police came across an even more devious</font> gun trafficking scheme<font color="#E5E5E5"> dreamed up they</font> say<font color="#E5E5E5"> by</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> small-time Canadian gangster</font> Lamar Porter<font color="#E5E5E5"> he would buy guns in the US</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and hide them in gun shops along</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> with</font> the GPS tracking device he would cruise the parking lots of Detroit shopping malls<font color="#E5E5E5"> looking</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> for cars of Canadian</font> cross-border shoppers<font color="#E5E5E5"> and hide the guns</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">inside their bumpers the cross-border</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">shoppers would then</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> return to Canada</font> along<font color="#E5E5E5"> the Ambassador Bridge completely</font> unaware of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the guns they</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> were</font> transported guided by the tracking <font color="#E5E5E5">device Porter would then go to their</font> Windsor homes and retrieve the guns in <font color="#E5E5E5">the middle of the night eventually</font> police discovered the<font color="#E5E5E5"> gun smuggling</font> route through wiretaps of Toronto gangsters who were buying the guns they followed the gangsters to this Windsor <font color="#E5E5E5">Club where Porter was photographed</font> conducting his gun sale transactions <font color="#E5E5E5">they were all</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> arrested generally how</font> does my<font color="#CCCCCC"> birthday price</font> I think<font color="#CCCCCC"> intelligence is a big part of it</font> you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> people talking right</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that's</font> part of it you know disgruntled partners friends criminals<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's kind of thing somebody</font> gets caught<font color="#E5E5E5"> in rats out there part yeah</font> that's that's a that's<font color="#E5E5E5"> no honor among</font> thieves I say right gun traffickers frequently tried to grind off<font color="#CCCCCC"> the serial</font> numbers from weapons<font color="#CCCCCC"> to prevent tracing</font> but police are<font color="#CCCCCC"> often able</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to detect the</font> numbers anyway<font color="#E5E5E5"> this is on the polymer</font> part of the<font color="#E5E5E5"> firearm so they could sand</font> it they could grind it but a lot<font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font> these guns are there they're ingrained <font color="#CCCCCC">in the body</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of the gun in the in the</font> integrity<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the gun that's where</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they're that's where they're recovered</font> just because you don't see<font color="#CCCCCC"> it doesn't</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">mean</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it's not there</font> these are all semi-automatic firearms they all fire as fast<font color="#CCCCCC"> as you can pull</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the trigger</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they'll fire</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> while police</font> find new ways to trace guns<font color="#E5E5E5"> criminals</font> are coming up<font color="#CCCCCC"> with</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> new ways to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> obtain</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">weapons like this</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Elliot</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Edmonton Police</font> recently<font color="#CCCCCC"> found handguns being illegally</font> converted<font color="#E5E5E5"> into fully automatic machine</font> pistols<font color="#E5E5E5"> which can fire over 30 bullets</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">in two seconds Ontario police found</font> small scale manufacturers assembling guns<font color="#E5E5E5"> from easily obtainable parts</font> weapons that<font color="#E5E5E5"> would be</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> totally</font> untraceable<font color="#CCCCCC"> to be able</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to find this</font> group<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's manufacturing distributing</font> is actually quite<font color="#CCCCCC"> unique and is a big</font> deal<font color="#E5E5E5"> near a rodeo Ontario gun store</font> owner Wes<font color="#E5E5E5"> Winkle says that key parts of</font> weapons<font color="#E5E5E5"> can now be</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> made with 3d</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> printers</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">yeah if you have a polymer injection</font> machine or a 3d printer nowadays<font color="#E5E5E5"> this</font> type<font color="#CCCCCC"> of component is not a hard thing to</font> manufacture you can produce<font color="#E5E5E5"> them at high</font> volumes<font color="#E5E5E5"> for</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a relatively little cost</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font> when they're manufactured there's no tracing or no numbers<font color="#E5E5E5"> put on them at all</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and therefore we get the term ghost guns</font> or what are<font color="#E5E5E5"> being assembled as a</font> criminal<font color="#CCCCCC"> element firearms</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you know they</font> used to say<font color="#CCCCCC"> that every gun</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> told the</font> story<font color="#E5E5E5"> not so much anymore</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> not so much</font> anymore another method of gun trafficking in Toronto involves what is called straw buying<font color="#E5E5E5"> one University student with a gun</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">licence</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> bought 22 weapons in 16 weeks</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">most from the same store in Toronto</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> then</font> sold them to<font color="#E5E5E5"> criminals no one at the</font> store<font color="#E5E5E5"> or at the Canadian firearms</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> office</font> raised<font color="#E5E5E5"> any alarm about his suspicious</font> behavior<font color="#E5E5E5"> Wes Winkle doesn't see straw</font> buying<font color="#E5E5E5"> as a big problem</font> so<font color="#E5E5E5"> straw purchasing is</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a hot-button</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">topic and you know it's it's one of</font> those things where<font color="#CCCCCC"> they you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> know there's</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">been some instances however</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> minuscule</font> they are but there has been some where there's been people<font color="#E5E5E5"> hired to get</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font> firearms license<font color="#E5E5E5"> and then go out and</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">purchase firearms with that license for</font> the criminal element<font color="#CCCCCC"> miniscule I saw</font> various cases<font color="#E5E5E5"> where a guy goes in and</font> buys 47 guns<font color="#CCCCCC"> and and and the gun store</font> owner<font color="#E5E5E5"> doesn't report</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> them and the RCMP</font> doesn't seem to do anything<font color="#E5E5E5"> about it you</font> know at face value<font color="#CCCCCC"> you say that seems</font> to be ludicrous<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it's possible that</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">could happen and and you know for the</font> most<font color="#E5E5E5"> part when you see that it's been</font> happening<font color="#E5E5E5"> through purchases at multiple</font> locations<font color="#CCCCCC"> I'm asking now from the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> point</font> of view<font color="#CCCCCC"> of gun sales people shouldn't</font> that trigger a<font color="#E5E5E5"> common-sense alarm you do</font> understand the way that<font color="#CCCCCC"> every type of</font> retail store there could be as<font color="#E5E5E5"> many as</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">25 different employees</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> running the</font> counter<font color="#E5E5E5"> and if you're coming in at</font> different<font color="#CCCCCC"> times and different things</font> it's it's<font color="#E5E5E5"> difficult at the retail level</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to remember every face</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and every name</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the industry was quite surprised to find</font> out<font color="#E5E5E5"> that that's not something</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> would</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">have been flagged at the Canadian</font> firearms registry we kind of expected that<font color="#E5E5E5"> would be the case while police</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> border<font color="#E5E5E5"> security put a great deal</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font> effort<font color="#E5E5E5"> and money into countering illegal</font> weapons the truth is that<font color="#CCCCCC"> as long as</font> there is a market<font color="#E5E5E5"> the guns will keep</font> crossing<font color="#CCCCCC"> the US</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Canada border a greater</font> challenge<font color="#E5E5E5"> is to address</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the demand</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> from</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Canadian buyers Terence Mckenna CBC News</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Windsor</font>
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Channel: CBC News: The National
Views: 158,720
Rating: 3.8854065 out of 5
Keywords: guns, gun control, violence, crimes, smuggled, border, U.S., Canada, longest undefended border, CBC, The National, Terrence McKenna, gun smuggling, canadian border security, canadian border, illegal guns, illegal gun trade, illegal guns in canada, illegal guns market, illegal weapon
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Length: 12min 21sec (741 seconds)
Published: Wed May 08 2019
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"Convicted of smuggling 104 firearms, served almost 2 years in a Montreal jail" - This is the real problem, get serious about sentencing criminals.

👍︎︎ 46 👤︎︎ u/garbeth 📅︎︎ May 23 2019 🗫︎ replies

They only recovered 750? That's nothing considering most smugglers are probably bringing 20-30 or more at a time. That's probably not even 10% of what actually gets through. Maybe instead of wasting money on registries, desk jockeys doing paperwork so we can go to the range, laboratories to decide which identically functioning semi autos can be NR, and buybacks our government should invest in giving CBSA the resources they need to impede the flow of these firearms across our border. How many millions of dollars have been wasted on this ongoing Bill Blair handgun ban study alone?

👍︎︎ 19 👤︎︎ u/Torvares 📅︎︎ May 23 2019 🗫︎ replies

Oh snap, looks like they managed to snap a pic of one of those rare in-stock lowers.

👍︎︎ 10 👤︎︎ u/obeyhidara 📅︎︎ May 23 2019 🗫︎ replies

What do they mean by addressing Canadian demand at the end of video

👍︎︎ 4 👤︎︎ u/Anadrex 📅︎︎ May 23 2019 🗫︎ replies

If we did away with the restrcited class altogether this wouldn't happen

and by that I mean grand all handguns normal PAL status.

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/LogicalBC 📅︎︎ May 23 2019 🗫︎ replies
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