How Did We Get Here -- The History of the Israel / Palestine Conflict

come Lord [Music] Jesus come Lord Jesus come Lord [Music] Jesus come Lord Jesus and the topic is how Israel came about and what you know some issues around the justice and Injustice of what's going on in Israel and between the Jewish state of Israel and the Palestinians you'll see why the air quotes eventually so let me begin uh kind of at the beginning I think kind of at the beginning yeah this is actually at the beginning uh you don't see what I'm seeing yet but you'll see it in a moment here okay okay we're starting at about 572 BC on the left okay uh my point in these first few slides is that there has been a continual Jewish presence in the holy land from 2000 BC uh until certainly since 500 BC to the present there was a short Interruption perhaps uh at the time of the Babylonian EX Exile okay but there's been a continuous Jewish presence in the Holy Land since long before Jesus okay so after the return from the Exile around 500 BC you see that there was a Jewish Community around Jerusalem and definitely spreading into heon and then in the herodian period which you can think of as around the time that Jesus lived the Jewish um the Jews had had spread and um and uh you can see the hash marks on the on the second map they had spread up to the Sea of Galilee and and north of it and they had uh spread down to the south of the Dead Sea that's the Dead Sea the lower the lower C there I wish there was a way I could put um a pointer on this um and there must be actually because I know that monkey Works has a pointer so there must be a way of putting a pointer on this but in any case the Dead Sea is the lower body of water and the Sea of Galilee is the upper one and um uh maybe I should uh pull up something that I wasn't planning to pull up here which is the um 12 tribes of Israel actually because then you'll see uh in the same kind of a way where the Jews were in the Holy Land um when they first crossed over from Egypt so where do I have the 12 tribes map I know I have it here well yeah I have I have actually two pretty good ones here to bring in okay so uh okay I'll do this one first whoops H okay okay oh how do how can I do this okay okay and then there okay okay so oh and and me I have to want to bring me back okay so here we have the uh Palestine at the time of the 12 tribes that's going back pretty far um anybody wants to argue that the Jews our Interlopers there we can talk we will be talking more about that of course but so here is Palestine divided among the 12 tribes so so let's get to uh again I don't have a I don't have a a marker on this do I I don't have a way to anyway okay you see the um green area in the Middle where it says Benjamin that's around where Jerusalem is uh you see the salt sea so that's the Dead Sea uh oh it says Jerusalem actually right below the green area it says Jerusalem so that's where Jerusalem is you've got the tribe of Judah that is actually goes out into the Gaza Strip um ashalon and Gaza then right north of Judah you have Benjamin then on the um west of Benjamin you have Dan then ephriam then manasse then Zebulon on um then going north Nali and Asher and then going um East you have manasse on the other side of the Jordan River by the way um and the land of Gilead which was not a tribe um and then Reuben uh on the uh east side of the of the Dead Sea of the salt sea so those are the tribes at the time of um the 12 tribes of Israel when when the uh Jews first entered and spread out oh well they spread out they were given land each tribe was given a territory and then let's uh see at the time of uh Christ is what we're looking at now and uh this uh should be maybe a little bit interesting I hope maybe we'll see maybe I talk too much but anyway um again you see the salt sea there um the Jerusalem Judea which is to the west of the salt sea and up where Jerusalem is it says HOSA HOSA for Jerusalem there you see Jericho and uh and then north of Judah which is that pale pink uh you see Samaria which is screen and you can see and Galilee is to the north of Samaria you see that Galilee is to the west of the Sea of Galilee that little sea that's between the pale green and and the kind of orangey pink up top and you can see how to get from Galilee to Judea you'd have to go through Samaria hence Jesus and at the well um you know where the Samaritan woman was and uh so that's that is the state of things at the time of the introduction of the Christian era okay but I really wasn't planning on doing that so I will go back to what I was doing so that is um where the Jews were after they came back from the Babylonian exile and uh after the 12 lost tribes were lost by the way which is what happened to the tribes up North and then at the Arab Conquest let's call that the fifth century you see there's uh Jewish settlements Hebron Gaza Jerusalem uh yafa Nablus which was um sheim in the Old Testament and safad around the Sea of Galilee as well as some on the far side of the Jordan River and then dur during the Crusades you see um and I'm going to stop talking in a moment actually to to see what uh to see where where you guys are at actually because I don't know if I'm losing people or not um but anyway uh during the Crusades you see Jewish communities again in Galilee um and uh around yafa and in Jerusalem Hein and Gaza now interestingly enough during the Crusades maypa maypa guess what side the um the uh the Jews actually fought on on the side of the Arabs during the Crusades um they were on pretty good terms and the Crusaders were not uh uh particularly um uh hospitable to either the Jews or the or the um Arabs I can't called them Muslims they weren't oh they were Muslims by then weren't they uh so I can call them Muslims they might have been solids too anyway so um that's during the Crusades and uh and then in more recent times um under the momls and then in the 16 Century so you can see those Jewish communities were were continuous there and then in the 1800s um in the 1800s they're still there and the uh 1800s saw um the second half of the 19th century saw a lot of Jewish immigration to uh Palestine and so you see by 1914 um there were much larger Jewish communities um the whole area from Jerusalem to the Mediterranean Sea and the whole area around Galilee much larger and then around hia which is um you don't see hia on the map yet but hia is directly west of basically where you see the um Sea of Galilee up north now um let's see what the next slide is okay so uh here we have actually let me see what the title of this map is because that's G to okay so it's the Jews of Palestine 636 to 1880 so it's uh um we we'll work through here um there there are several different symbols there uh the Black Blocks are the holy cities of Jerusalem where there was a continuous Jewish settlement from Biblical times the little black dots are towns and settlements inhabited in part by Jews during the time of the Arab rule from 600 to 1100 uh the cross-hatched areas are where the Jews formed the main population from the 13th to 19th century and the bullseye are the towns and villages with continuous Jewish communities from the 13th to the 19th centuries so you see from the 13th and 19th centuries there were continual Jewish communities in Gaza and heon in Jerusalem in Nablus um and in hia and in safat and in tiberias at the very least and then you see some of the historical events are are discussed there um for instance um uh oh in 1100 ad the Jews take part in the defense of Jerusalem against the Crusaders sorry about that fighting alongside the Arabs um in 1200 the Jews are driven out by the Crusaders from ashalon um which is actually right north of Gaza and many move to Jerusalem and then a lot of Jews came after the expulsion from Spain in 1492 that's when safat really became the center of Jewish uh theology anyway other expulsions in the 15th century um brought a lot of Jews to Jerusalem and to the Galilee um 1100 ad Jews take part in the defense of H against the Crusaders and in 1563 in safat there see pretty much in the middle there middle left right and kind of upper third uh in safat in 1563 the very first Hebrew printing press and the first printing press on the entire Asian continent was a Hebrew one in safat because that was really the center of Jewish learning and Jewish theology after the expulsion from Spain so um I know this I'm getting long winded um and uh you know what I have a request for you guys um keep the chat stream for um what's going on because that way I can use it for instance I see can you do slide five and six again I missed it I don't have numbers on the slides I'm sorry so I can't even tell you what slides five and six are um uh okay so anyway the I'm getting long- winded but my point is the Jews just didn't appear during the Holocaust it wasn't alien territory to the Jews between 70 AD and and 1940 ad okay that is a it's a myth it's a lie the Jewish population and I'll have some population slides um Jewish population was at times 25% % in Palestine it was maybe at times 15% it was maybe at times 30% um uh it may have been 10% at times but it was always significant and by the way it's not like the other 90% were Palestinian um because uh I have a list somewhere I don't have it in front of me of the number of languages spoken in Jerusalem it was like it was like 30 languages I mean there were there were Christians from all over the world in Jerusalem um there were uh Arabs and there were um uh Persians um I mean there were people from all over the Middle East there were people from all over the Christian world and it was a very very very mixed population most of the Palestinian families most of the families that now consider themselves Palestinian um date back at most to the 1830s um when they started to be uh influx of population into Palestine uh mostly from Egypt but from Egypt and Jordan and Syria and so forth and I'll get to that and that population came in in large part not entirely um but it came in in large part because of the development which came with the um uh Jews coming but anyway I'll get there maybe not all today let me go up to the next slide and see what it is okay so what's this slide called it is called Jewish settlement in Palestine from 1880 to 1914 okay so this is this is basically after Zionism began what we call Zionism today the Zionist movement uh a kind of a conscious movement um uh coming beginning in Russia uh in response to the pgrs in Eastern Europe but basically a uh started 1880s that Jews there was this like concerted um ideal of establishing a homeland in Palestine so let's see what this what the emblems here are okay the black dots are towns with mixed populations and the bullseyes are Jewish settlements established between 1880 and 1914 and the uh Hollow circles are Arab towns with very few Jewish inhabitants by 1914 now U there was something else going on around this time beginning of the 20th century which is called pan arabism which is basically um uh there was um for for much for much of the time between Christ and the 20th century there wasn't really any real tension between the Jews in Palestine and the Muslims in Palestine but then when the uh European Jews started coming in in greater numbers and they were um they were they were I don't want to say they were an upper class uh they but anyway they they were coming in they were in better better commercial economic situations than the uh Native uh you know the native Arab peasants uh there was some resentment which came up and there was also a fear that um that they were taking over over and there was also of course the Muslim uh antipathy to the to Jews and part of that Muslim antipathy the reason it wasn't a problem before then is that uh in the Muslim World Jews were accepted and tolerated as um second class citizens that basically had to pay a huge tax just to not be killed and so they were a source of income for the Muslims because basically the Jews were taxed into poverty and they accepted it because they had no place to go and they couldn't fight and so um they were quite a cash cow and so there really wasn't a problem uh when it was really under Muslim domination and it was also true in the other Arab lands um during this period that the Jews were tolerated as a cash cow tax paying minority and when I say tax I don't mean taxes like you know 20% income tax that everyone paid I mean like confiscatory taxes but anyway okay so here we have uh black dots which are towns with mixed population and bullseyes which are the newer Jewish settlements so you can see that there are a bunch of towns s uh including Tel Aviv by the way which were just established as Jewish settlements and there are towns the traditional historic um Arab towns which are now actually still very much Arab towns are the hollow do ralo which is the headquarters of the PLO uh Jericho which is pretty tough to go in if you're a Israeli nablas which is impossible to go in if you're not an Arab jenin which is you know and so forth you can see them there and then um you can see being heavily Jewish and north of the Sea of Galilee uh so here's some statistics there are some statistics there that um in n in 1880 uh the population was was what's that that's about 5% Jewish and by 1914 the population was almost 20% Jewish so you can see why that would have scared the um Arab population and then uh between 1880 and 1914 over 60,000 Jews entered mostly from Eastern Europe um seeking a new Homeland and they basically that northern part of Israel was a uh malarial swamp and they drained it and set up agriculture there and then uh between 1880 and 1903 over 25,000 Jews reached Palestine mostly from Russia and settled on the land and then 1904 to 1914 another 40,000 Jews arrived from Eastern Europe and uh anyway so so anyway you can see that anyway uh you're losing me oh no sound huh H let somebody let me know what the sound situation is okay some people have sound okay so now we're up to where it gets interesting because we're up to World War I we're up to World War I and World War I was really where where all the trouble started you could say uh um let me shrink this map down so you can see what the point of this map is okay World War I you know there were two sides in World War I there was the um losing side the bad guys which was uh among others Germany and turkey turkey was Allied with Germany and then you had the um allies of Britain France uh the United States and so forth and um Germany lost which meant turkey lost but turkey was the Ottoman Empire so the Ottoman Empire lost the Ottoman Empire was huge it was absolutely huge and somewhere here I hope I have a picture of the Ottoman Empire so let me uh find it here um that's not really the picture I wanted so let me pull in another picture of the Ottoman Empire uh here okay okay this is really a picture of the Ottoman Empire before World War I everything that's dark green there was the Ottoman Empire so you can see it was huge it was North Africa uh Egypt going over to Algeria and Morocco and so forth it was um turkey Syria Iraq of course um Israel Lebanon Jordan and uh you know the oil States anyway you can see it on the map right I don't have to read the names but that was the Ottoman Empire uh stretching up into Europe there um yeah pretty scary uh let me let me uh expand so I see okay so um um H I'd better put myself there okay so that's the Ottoman Empire um the way it was before World War I and now the way it was after World War I I can um I'll do I'll use this one uh I don't want to use that one huh uh okay so this is the way it was after World War I and um I don't think you can read the um uh partition of the Ottoman Empire I don't think you can read the uh the uh key on the bottom so let me get the key on the bottom here where you can read it uh which is okay so the blue is okay basically the Ottoman empire was divided up among the winners the French the British and the Italians and the Russians and a small International sphere so the blue is the French the red are the British the green are the Italians and the yellow are the Russians and there you have what happened to the Ottoman Empire I will shrink it in a little bit it became essentially protect of the winning Powers so you see the whole yellow area there uh came under Russian control the whole green area came under Italy control the whole Blue Area including the hollow blue area that says a was British and the whole red area including the hollow excuse me Hollow red area became French um which is okay so that's really and and and you can see huge huge huge swaths of land um I think it was 12 million square miles but I may be no may be something else I think the British part was 12 million square miles so then what you have is um this is the British uh actually I have to I have to to move move this a little bit this is actually where you where the problem starts the British the British controlled area uh of the ex Ottoman Empire included uh what's now Israel what's now Jordan what's now Arabia or at least that part of Arabia what's now Iraq um uh should let me see if I have a better yeah there's a better picture to use okay that that whole pink area is the British protectorate okay that whole big pink area Orange area I should say that was all Britain had and I think that was 12 million square miles now in about 1920 1919 uh the British uh decided to make a Homeland for the Jews out of a tiny tiny tiny slice of their protectorate um well not a tiny tiny tiny slice uh in 1920 the British decided to make a Homeland for the Jews in what I have circled with white there okay that was the original Palestine that was the original British Mandate of Palestine that the British government agreed to give to the Jew as a Homeland and that the um primary Arab leader of the day agreed should be a Homeland and could be a Homeland for the Jews so with that let me go back this is going to go on forever I'm going to have to leave for Mass before I finish um so uh so that I've circled it there just to show that it's only a small part of the British territory and um H let's see what's going on here uh oh I see what's going on here okay so that's only a small part of the uh British territory but I'll zoom in on the part that I've circled in white and that is that it's the Mandate for Palestine to British mandate for Palestine and you see that it encompasses all of what's now Jordan and goes up to the border of Iraq you know and the border of Syria and it's actually anyway I don't know what the N the current countries are that it encompasses but it is a lot more than the state of Israel and it was promised in the balfor Declaration to Israel and here is the um here is the text it's very short text actually it's one paragraph uh his Majesty's government view with favor The Establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people and will use their best Endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object uh uh being understood that nothing shall be done which prejudices the civil and religious rights of existing non-jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews of any other country and it was a letter from the foreign Secretary of the United Kingdom to the Roth Charles and to the Zionist organization and it was um approved here we have something that uh might be interesting here okay which is this is now a agreement between Amir I'm gonna okay uh let me an agreement between the only recognized Arab leader in the world King fisel uh and it is a treaty between him and the zionists agreement between Amir fisel huseni and Dr wisman and uh uh I just highlighted a couple of things um immediately following the complete of the deliberations of the peace conference the definite boundaries between the Arab State and Palestine shall be determined um uh all necessary measures shall be taken to encourage and stimulate immigration of Jews into Palestine on a large scale and as quickly as possible to settle Jewish immigrants upon the land through closer settlement and intense cultivation of the soil no regulation or law should be made prohibiting or interfering in any way with the free exercise of religion and then um finally so to speak you have the signatures of FAL Ian Hussein and Kim Weisman remember this was that whole British mandate territory that was um under discussion here and here you have actually the signed document so there you have um uh there you have you can read the signature of Kim whitesman pretty easily but the signature of King fisel is a little bit harder to read so so um that was the start of things I'm GNA I'm going to fast forward now um so let me go back to Studio mode and let me get rid of that okay that was the start of things you see the territory that was originally discussed so to speak or originally offered I should say not discussed and then you have um h i don't have everything I thought I had here but I I I can get it easily um uh okay maybe this will do okay okay so I'm fast forwarding so this is going to get a little bit sloppy but what you ended up having by the time uh by the time you got to 1948 you had uh well actually no I should I should use another one I should use this one perhaps instead it'll it'll uh make more sense I think whoops oh man is that really true huh oh I see where it is okay here we are um okay um by the time you um get to um 1948 and the UN partition plan for Palestine uh the Jews had already lost about 80% of the territory that was um originally given to them in the Bal for declaration okay what you have here is uh uh this is really important boys and girls what you have here is the boundaries of Arab the Arab nation of Palestine let's say the the the UN divided up that that whole area on the east side of the Jordan River has already been given to to um to be the air country of Jordan by the way where no Jews were allowed to um own land I don't remember whether they were to live there they certainly were forbidden from owning land there that so that whole area that is time of the um Bal for declaration um boy it would be really good to have the right technology that whole that whole Eastern end which was like 80% of the territory was uh was lost or was given to the Palestinians to be Jordan were given to the same people that were the Arabs living on the other side of the Jordan River the Arabs living on the far side of the Jordan River they were one people the uh first king of Jordan said Palestinians are jordanians jordanians are Palestinians you know they were one you know ethnic historical group they were given 80% to be their country and then about 20 to 25% was held over for the Jews so they already had lost a huge amount of that mandate and then um at the time of the uh United Nations partition they lost another good slice as a matter of fact they lost more than half of what they had left because what you see is that the UN took all of what is um green there and gave it to be the Arab state of Palestine let's say and it took what's orange there and gave it to be the Jewish state of Palestine or Israel and although it looks like a lot of territory everything south of bishea is the Sinai desert okay everything south of Gaza is pretty brutal desert so basically the habitable land the arable land is pretty much all green there um and the UN was not silly in doing that distribution it wasn't a terribly generous distribution to the Jews but they weren't silly because um here you have the uh population distribution it's hard to see because it's all black and white but the um black part of the circles are the um Arab population and the gray part are the Jewish population and you can see that maybe you can't really see because it's you know not a very good picture to look at but um you know the the most of the areas I'll zoom in a little bit for you most of the areas um you know most of those circles a lot of those circles are mostly black right some of the circles are all black like in Gaza there um around Tel Aviv most of the circle is gray around hia half the circle is gray and a lot of the circles in Galilee have a lot of gray but a lot of the circles are pretty darn black and then if you look at land ownership um this is a little easier to see the the uh red is land owned by Jews and the green is land owned by Arabs and you can see how most of the um most of the land in most of the country is actually green there now however the the Arabs who owned that land were not Palestinians they were um absentee landlords in in Egypt and Syria and so forth most of the land was actually held um by as huge huge huge Estates um by you know by Foreign um uh Lords um that then um that then collected uh you know rents or or taxes from The Peasants who um actually worked the land but anyway you can see that a lot of it is Arab and so the the UN partition was not in its from that perspective was not silly whoops wrong one is this the right one yeah but so okay so day one the UN says okay these are you know these are the new boundaries say it's it's UN resolution 181 they say as soon as possible the Jewish community in Jewish Israel will come up with a constitution and a democratic way of establishing a government same thing in the Arab territory so that's what the original boundaries of of Israel were but then as soon as the um state of Israel was established by the in uh five Arab countries launched war first of all the Palestinians in other words the Arabs in the green areas did not accept the un uh division of the land did not did not agree to found a Palestinian state in the green area uh they didn't they didn't you know cooperate or agree to the UN resolution and all of the Arab states surrounding you can see Jordan Egypt Syria Lebanon launched immediate War expecting to be able to eliminate the Jewish state within days a week or two at the most so and they told uh you can see that most of the Arabs were not in the Jewish state area I mean a lot of them some of them were but the Arab states when they launched the war told the Jews who were in that orange area leave leave now leave to the green areas leave to our countries get out of there so that we can kill everything in sight because they were planning to exterminate all of the Jews and as soon as we're finished which shouldn't take more than a few days or a week you can come back and you can have all their property so most not all but most of the Arabs I'll say AR Palestinians who lived in the orange territory left and they left for the green territory um the Jews on the other hand ran around the Jewish government the new Jewish government ran around with trucks with loudspeakers saying don't leave don't leave don't leave we want you as Citizens we want you with full rights and so forth I'm not joking it's well documented um but um but most of the Arabs left nonetheless so um because frankly they were probably they probably thought the Jews would do to them what they wanted to do to the Jews which wasn't the case but anyway so most of the Arabs left and then you have the fact that guess what not only did um Israel survive the onslaught but when there was an armest disagreement that was finally settled on the Israeli territory had increased a little bit not hugely just a little bit I'll bring that whoops I'll bring that up okay so after the um is that true yeah okay so after the war was over with the Armistice lines that's what Israel looked like it's that pink area now and you can see it's a little bit fatter than it was before maybe I can go back to the other one you see how skinny it is uh where Bethlehem there how how tiny as a matter of fact I think it's actually divided into two it's pinched you know it's pinched to nothing there in the middle it's pinched to nothing around Nazareth up top and then after the um after the war you can see that Israel is a little bit less strangled there so that's basically where the Armistice lines were and you can see that um the uh territory well you can see that territory I'll just leave it at that now this is where the occupied territories come in because um the that um oh I know what what what I have to pull up here I think um yeah this is the one I have to pull up now I can't wait to see the um okay I thought this would be a lot easier than it is actually uh if that makes any sense to um a lot easier and quick okay now we get to the Gaza Strip essentially okay this is what happened if anyone's still with me um after after Israel won the um after Israel won the um war in in um 1949 you had Israel proper Israel being what's blue there and you had the territory that had been originally given to be a Palestinian Arab state but it would never became a Palestinian Arab State because the Palestinians didn't accept the UN partition but anyway you see it on the right there in pink and it's an extension of Jordan you see that is striped pink and that became what's the OCC what's now known as the West Bank um the occupied West Bank and you see that little strip at the bottom that's green striped and that became the Gaza Strip what that was was it was when the Armistice lines were drawn in 1949 the Egyptian Army had entered from the south to the point where it held that little Gaza Strip and the Jordanian and other Arab armies had entered from the East and and taken that that bite out that you see that stripe pink however um Egypt did not turn the Gaza Strip into Egypt it did not Annex the Gaza Strip and Jordan did not anex uh ennex the West Bank and the reason they didn't is because what what happened at this point in time now we're talking about 1949 is that the Arabs who had fled the Jewish part of Israel because they wanted to come back with the conquerors um were trapped they were trapped they were trapped by that green line because they couldn't go back into Israel proper and they were trapped by the solid you know where there's solid Jordan because Jordan wouldn't let them in okay so they were trapped there and similarly the ones in Gaza were trapped there they couldn't go into Egypt so they were trapped there and that is the origin of the refugees now they weren't trapped there by Israel they were trapped there by Jordan and Egypt and the entire Arab world did not want to let them out of those little enclaves because as long as they were in those enclaves they were an excuse for Waging War against Israel and they were a ready source of trouble for Israel if Jordan had allowed them to become normal Jordanian citizens and they could live anywhere they wanted in Jordan well the pressure would be off Israel and the same thing with e Egypt and Gaza and Jordan tried actually to give them citizenship and they were expelled I believe they were expelled from the Arab League all the other Arab countries were extremely angry at Jordan because how can you do this to us how can you let the palestini refugees out of that trapped area because as long as they're in that trapped area they are essentially a spearhead for war against Israel the refugee camps where the refugees live lived and there's there's a whole big story there too were until 1967 they weren't prisoners of Israel at all they were entirely prisoners of Jordan or Egypt it was Jordan and and Egypt that had the refugee camps okay what happened is that in the 1967 war Israel um uh uh one one I'll just say one okay they won the the current uh territory of Israel so to speak I'll bring that up there and which encompasses the refugee areas that had been held by Jordan and Gaza okay and that's that's where the Palestinian refugees come from and that's where the West Bank comes from and that's where the as a strip comes from um Antonia have you not been paying attention at all I'm sorry the um I just went through that I I'm sorry I'm sorry I'll be nice I'm sorry I apologize the refugees were um were Arabs who lived in um in Palestine um either in the Jewish section of Palestine or the what was supposed to be the Arab section of Palestine um who did not accept the UN partition that did not did not stay in the Jewish section but left the Jewish section and then got trapped when the uh 1949 War stopped they trapped from between the the border with Jordan the border with Egypt and the border with Israel they were never they were not kicked out of Israel they were not they were not dis displaced by Israel but some of them had had left Israel because um they didn't want to live in a Jewish state or because um they were scared of getting killed by the Arab armies coming in and they got trapped um so anyway and of course it's a very sad situation for them but that's where they come from and that's why they're in this funny kind of No Man's Land let's say but frankly the only reason why for instance um Qatar I think it was catar one of the Arab states one of the oil rich Arab states I'm pretty sure was qar was so desperate for workers that it gave instant citizenship to all Arabs in the Middle East except for Palestinians because because every no Arab country wanted to allow Palestinians out of this trapped situation because then they would not be there to to um be terrorists against Israel so anyway I guess that's it I guess I'm up to the up to now maybe I'll see if there are any questions um uh let's see let's see this is great to know it's complicated it is easy to lose track I had to spend I had to spend like six hours just refreshing refreshing my mind to the point where I could could do this let me expand that um that last map and okay oh the Golan Heights yeah the Golan Heights is a very minor thing but but in the 67 War um Israel took advantage of um improving the defensibility of its borders and it just stole the Golden Heights from Syria yes that's that area up the top there it just took the golen heights which I don't think they had much of a population there but anyway it took them because the Goan heights were were much higher than than the Israeli side of that border and was were continually being shelled from the Golan Heights so they took it for tactical reasons and um and then you see the West Bank there and uh it's basically the green line by the way is known as the green line and it's the Armistice line it's it's not a national boundary by the way and um if anyone says if ever hear anyone say that the occupation is the Israeli occupation of the West Bank is in violation of international law it's not in violation of international law because the international law says that once there is a peace treaty the um basically the occupying Force has to leave guess what there's no peace treaty there's no peace treaty between Israel and any of the Arab states States except for uh Egypt so actually it's still it's still it's still at War and um you know when when you read when you read the law I have it in the other room when you read the law it becomes clear that it it it does it it applies it applies to the short period in between a war and a genuine peace agreement peace settlement of which here isn't one um it's not anyway if you want I could actually redo that analysis I don't think I'm going to do it now uh Gaza gaza's uh not that situation because because um there is a peace treaty with Egypt and uh you may have noticed that Israel actually gave Gaza indep dependence for all that good did um Israel Israel um did give Gaza Independence essentially they have their own government which is Hamas there there no Israeli troops in Gaza there no there's no there's no Jew there's no Jew in Gaza there's no Jewish property in Gaza um Israel gave Gaza essentially Independence it pulled out in like 2007 or so it forced all of the settlers to leave and gave it over to the Palestinians to be the beginning of the Palestinian State and that's what you have now uh of course there's a wall between Gaza and Israel proper and you saw the reason why there's a wall or a fence because if there weren't you know Israel you know it would be Slaughter and um why Egypt doesn't allow gazin into Egypt is you're going to have to ask Egypt that but I think it's for the same reason okay um so um the uh the I'll answer I'll I'll play Devil's Advocate Anga uh the the Jews are the original indigenous people of Israel given that they wiped out the Philistines and they wiped out the moabites and and the other tribes that they were there 2500 years ago the Arabs in Israel are not indigenous people but the um in the 19th century um the Arabs were majority they were majority but they weren't I mean they Wen not indigenous to Palestine most of them came from the other other Arab what's now other Arab countries they weren't even other Arab countries you realize that until after World War I I shouldn't say that like that because of course you don't realize it because it's not your speciality but there but all of those countries let me go back to the um uh to the uh Ottoman Empire okay so I'll go back to the Ottoman Empire here um whoops wrong Ottoman Empire map is this the right one okay okay there we have it um all of those countries that we think of in the Middle East Syria uh let me let me Zoom this in a little bit so it's easier to see what's going on whoops partition of Ottoman Empire this should come on how come it's not working Oh wrong one okay [Music] okay okay all of those countries look at the border um I'm trying to make sure what what are actually borders um the borders were drawn by the British and the French look at the border between Syria and Iraq the nice straight line um or the border between Saudi Arabia and Iraq uh those those th all those countries Syria Lebanon Jordan Iraq Iran um they did not exist before the breakup of the Ottoman Empire the the the the national borders were drawn up by the victors when they carve up the Ottoman Empire and that's one reason you have so much trouble you know the Kurds you know the Kurds in Iraq and the Armenians in in turkey and everything you have you have Waring ethnic groups in these countries because they weren't the the it was the British and the French who decided where the boundaries should be and the boundaries encompassed tribal enemies Encompass different ethnicities so um what made me what started this I I forgot where I started with this um uh so okay so I can see where I started with this if I go back a little bit oh the Jews are the indigenous people of Israel so you know for E for Egyptians you know for Egyptians to go from Egypt to Palestine because Palestine was where the work was was the most natural thing in the world they they were essentially all all it was a tribal people the entire Arab world were tribes and they were not anchored in um you know in in in in in Geographic um uh boundaries they were not primarily anchored in Geographic boundaries anyway the jordanians as yaser Arafat right the first head of the PLO he grew up in Egypt okay he was an Egyptian his family was Egyptian um a lot of the names I'm trying to think of the other names but a lot of the Palestinian last names are names of towns you know in in Lebanon or Syria or Egypt which is where the family was from so um the the Palestinians are not an indigenous people people but um they did go back they certainly go back into the 19th century now very interestingly I better stop because I'm going to have to get to mass but interestingly if you look at the growth of the Arab population in Palestine between the middle of the 19 century and the um middle of the 20th century the Arab population grew um I don't remember the exact dates but the Arab population in the areas that didn't have Jews grew 20% and the Arab population in the areas that did have Jews doubled that's not because the reproduction rate was higher it is because it is the that that doubling of the Arab population was Arabs who migrated to the areas where the Jews were cuz that's where the work was and that's where the money was and that's where probably the roads and the infrastructure were so um you know it's not a terribly indigenous population okay let's see how did you bathe in the Dead Sea did you have to go through the West Bank no um you didn't have to go through the West Bank I'll um I'll pull up the current map whoops cancel this where's the current map of Israel huh do do I not have a current map of isra I must have a current map of Israel what's going on here that's not a current map of Israel anyway no you didn't have to um go through the West Bank I don't think let me I let me pull up a current map um I think this is a current map of Israel you know something I better not I better not I I I don't want to guess okay so maybe you maybe you did maybe you did go through some of the West Bank I don't I just don't I I I don't want to um I don't want to fly by the seat of my pants there how would the two-state work it wouldn't and it was never it was never intended to work um it was a plan the whole two-state solution was a plan to have Israel destroyed um Refugee situation how could it be solved um it could be first of all first of all um if if uh I'm I'm going to put no maybe I won't put myself back up the refugee situation would go away tomorrow if the refugees were willing to live in peace with Israel um there are Muslim Palestinian Arabs I mean any any Palestinian Arab who did not flee Israel in 1948 became a full citizen there are there are Palestinian Arab members of parliament they have they're absolutely on a totally equal basis with Jews and Israel and if the Palestinian Arabs were not at War and did not commit terrorism and so forth and did not have to be fenced off and walled off they would have free movement in Israel and they would be the best off Arabs in the Middle East short of maybe Qatar and the oil Rich States now um the the even the Palestinian refugees in the occupied territories have it better than um um than most Middle Eastern Arabs in terms of in terms of INF infrastructure in terms of Education in terms of whatever as a matter of fact the refugee population in the occupied territories has been swelled by non-refugees this is not a joke who move to the refugee camps because there's so much money that flows into the refugee camps from the UN and from other countries that they actually I mean essentially welfare is a lot better in the refugee camps than it is in let's say Jordan so the population has actually been swollen by non-refugees who want to be refugees but anyway um you know the the refugee problem is is essentially caused by the unwillingness to allow the Jewish state of Israel to exist given that the refugees problem would be solved overnight if the um rest of the Arab world which is whatever 25 times the size of Israel 50 times the size of Israel would let the Palestinian refugees move there I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure uh I mean um I shouldn't make a joke but if if you know if Biden's paying for air tickets for Guatemalans to become illegal immigrants in the United States I'm sure Israel would pay for the plane tickets to fly the Palestinians anywhere they wanted to go in the Arab world and start a new life speaking of which if you're going to talk about refugees and poor refugees there were more Jews who in 1948 had to flee the Arab countries where they had been living no joke in some cases for Millennia for Millennia the Jewish the Jewish community in Baghdad was the oldest Jewish Community the oldest continual Jewish community in the world it dated from 600 BC it was like 2500 years old and um the Jews in throughout the Arab world in 1948 had to flee leaving everything behind abandoning their property uh and flee to Israel um because they were being either forced out or slaughtered in the Arab countes so they the Jewish refugees from the Arab world were actually a larger and worse situation Refugee population than the Arab pop uh refugees from Israel but that's another story [Music] too Lord Jesus come Lord [Music] Jesus

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