Homegrown Hate: The War Among Us

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Alright so I watched it.

I feel like these sorts of groups and the events carried out by them are what we can expect to see if Biden wins. If Biden loses. Then we'll just see the second half... The results. The end of rights for minorities and protections for the impoverished. The continued allowance of hate groups to act openly in public (like the police are allowing RIGHT NOW).

If Biden wins I would not be surprised if we see another OKC bombing, just on a much worse scale. I would not be surprised if we see citizens carrying their white pride flags openly assaulting blacks and other minorities in the streets without repercussion. "Stand back and stand by".

Either way. We're in a world of shit here and it's probably going to cost the lives of many good people to put down the vile hatred growing in our country AGAIN. Civil war didn't take care of it. The race riots of the 50s and 60's didn't take care of it and now were going to have to deal with the repercussions of inaction.

And everyone thought 2020 was bad...

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>>> YOU'LL SEE THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT ON THE MARCH. >> YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US! >> LIKE A MONTH IS IT ERR THAT WENT INTO HIBERNATION. THIS WAS EVIDENCE THAT THE MONSTER HAS COME UP. >> THE DISPLAYS OF RACISM AND VIOLENCE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE U.S. ARE CERTAINLY NOT NEW. >> IT'S IN THE FABRIC OF THIS COUNTRY. >> PART OF THIS LONG LEGACY OF PEOPLE ORGANIZING OVER TIME. >>> WITHIN THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT, THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING STANDS AS THE CULMINATION OF DECADES OF ORGANIZING. >> HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF ALL COUNTS. >> HE WAS TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE TO ARMS AND TO PROVOKE A RACE WAR. >> WOMEN ARE FAIR GAME. >> IT'S MEANT TO BE A BATTLE STRIKE. IT'S MEANT TO INCITE WAR. >> YOU WONDER IF THE CLUES THAT WERE THERE HAD BEEN UN-EARTHED OF WHETHER THINGS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. >> WE ARE NOT SUFFICIENTLY PREPARED. >> AN ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM CARRIED OUT BY A MOVEMENT THAT WE HAVE NOT CLASSIFIED, CONFRONTED, OR UNDERSTOOD. >> SAVE THE WHITE RACE! >> ALL WE'RE DOING IS PLANTING THE SEEDS FOR FUTURE TIMOTHY McVEIGHS TO DO SIMILAR THINGS IN THE COUNTRY. >> ARE YOU WILLING TONIGHT TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND MILITIA GROUPS? >> WE JUST NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT RACE. THERE'S NO SHORTCUT AROUND IT. >> TO BE HONEST, I HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF STUFF GOING THROUGH MY MIND AS I THINK ABOUT GOING UP TO THIS PROPERTY. >> MY DAD, HE GAVE UP EVERYTHING TO GO OUT THERE. AND I KNOW HE BELIEVED IN WHAT HE WAS DOING. HE CREATED THIS COMPOUND, BUT HE WAS SO MISGUIDED AND SO DILUTED. >> THIS GUY RENOUNCES A WORLD-RENOWN PHYSICIST CAREER AND BECOMES ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC WHITE SUPREMACISTS. >> I BELIEVE THAT REVOLUTIONARY ACTION IS CALLED FOR. >> AND IT WAS HIS IDEA TO CREATE A WHITES' ONLY ENCLAVE THERE AND WOULD START THE EVENTUAL CLEANSING OF AMERICA AS HE SAW IT. >> KELVIN PIERCE GREW UP WITH A FRONT ROW SEAT TO HATE. >> MY FATHER WAS DR. WILLIAM LUTHER PIERCE. >> A MAN CONSIDERED AMONG THE NATION'S MOST DANGEROUS WHITE SUPREMACISTS. >> MANY PEOPLE CALL US RACISTS, HATE MONGERERS. >> IT'S ABOUT HATRED. IT'S ABOUT RACISM. IT'S ABOUT EXCLUSION. >> ONE OF THE FIRST AND MOST FAMOUS LEADERS OF THE NATION'S MODERN WHITE POWER MOVEMENT, WILLIAM PIERCE WAS THE FOUNDER OF A FAR-REACHING EXTREMIST GROUP. THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE. >> WHAT WORRIES ME IS THE UNCHECKED TIDE OF WHITE IMMIGRATION IN THIS COUNTRY, BOTH LEGAL AND ILLEGAL. THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY BREEDING DISASTER. >> THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE ATTEMPTED TO BRING WHITE POWER PROPAGANDA TO THE MASSES, SECRETLY HOPING THEIR MOVEMENT WOULD APPEAL TO A VARIETY OF ACTORS. >> SO, WITHIN THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT IS A BROAD SOCIAL MOVEMENT THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTORS ON THE FAR RIGHT. THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT HAS INVESTED TREMENDOUS ENERGY IN HIDING THE FACT THAT IT IS A SOCIAL MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THESE ACTIVISTS TO PERPETUATE MORE VIOLENCE. >> THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT WAS ABOUT BECOMING AN ENEMY OF THE NATION TO UNSEAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, CREATE CIVIL DISTURBANCE. AND FOR MANY PEOPLE, IT'S IMAGINED AS A WAY TO PROVOKE RACE WAR. >> BASICALLY TO CREATE A WHITES' ONLY HOMELAND WHERE ONLY WHITES WOULD LIVE AND EXIST WITH EACH AND THAT WAS THE GOALS OF IT. >> AND THE WHITE POWER GROUP CAME UP WITH A NEW STRATEGY TO ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS. >> DONE BY PEOPLE IN SMALL ORGANIZATIONS WHO DIDN'T MAKE A BIG SPLASH IN THE NEWS ALL THE TIME LIKE SOME OF THE NAZI GROUPS AND THE CLAN GROUPS. >> AND EVERYBODY LOOKED UP TO MY DAD. THEY REVERED HIM. THEY ABSOLUTELY IDOLIZED HIM AS THEIR LEADER. >> KELVIN PIERCE IS IN WEST VIRGINIA TRYING TO FIND THE OLD COMPOUND THAT TODAY IS STILL OWNED BY HIS FATHER'S GROUP. >> I GUESS I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE NERVOUS. IT'S BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE. I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE TWICE. >> HIS FATHER MOVED TO THIS SECRETIVE COMPOUND AFTER RISING TO WHITE SUPREMACIST INFAMY WITH HIS NOVEL "THE TURNER DIARIES." >> IT IS SORT OF LIKE THE BIBLE OF THE WHOLE MOVEMENT. >> IT TRULY IS THE MOST VIOLENT EXERCISE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO CREATE AN ALL-WHITE STATE, NATION, AND WORLD. >> TO START THIS, IN EFFECT, ALMOST A RACE WAR IN THE BRING DOWN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ESTABLISH A NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT. >> THE FBI HAS LABELED THE TURNER DIARIES AS A MANUAL OF HATRED. >> THEY WERE DIRECT REFLECTIONS OF FANTASIES THAT HE HAD ABOUT ACTIONS THAT HE WISHED HE COULD CARRY OUT HIMSELF. SO, WHEN HE SAW AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE, THAT WOULD ENGENDER RAGE IN HIM. HIS RAGE WOULD LEAD HIM TO WANT TO KILL THOSE PEOPLE, TO MURDER THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE BOOKS. >> Reporter: BUT THE VIOLENT WRITINGS SOON TURNED FROM WILLIAM PIERCE'S FICTIONAL FANTASIES TO REAL-LIFE TRAGEDY. [ SIRENS] >> WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VICTIMS HERE. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGEST DELIBERATE MASS CASUALTY EVENT IN THE AMERICAN HISTORY BETWEEN THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR AND THE ATTACKS OF 9/11. >> I KNEW IMMEDIATELY, OH, MY GOSH. >> YOU CAN NEVER KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED IF THIS HAD BEEN SEEN AS THE THREAT THAT IT WAS AT THE TIME. >> WE WEREN'T READY FOR IT. WE WERE NOT SUFFICIENTLY PREPARED. >> THIS IS A HARD STORY TO FACE. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. I'M PETER JENNINGS. WE INTERRUPT BRIEFLY TO TELL YOU OF A MAJOR EXPLOSION IN OKLAHOMA CITY IN A FEDERAL BUILDING IN THE CENTER OF OKLAHOMA CITY ABOUT 9:00 LOCAL TIME IN OKLAHOMA. >> I KEPT THINKING IF HE'S IN THERE I NEED TO FIND HIM. SO I JUST TRIED TO VISUALIZE THE BUILDING BACK THE WAY IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT I SAW AN HOUR BEFORE AND I CLOSED MY EYES AND I REMEMBER GOING FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, AND REMEMBER WHERE HIS CRIB WOULD BE AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TRYING TO CLIMB UP THE RUBBLE. AND THERE WAS A MAN THERE AND HE TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, NO, COME DOWN, MA'AM, YOU CAN'T GO UP THERE, IT'S TOO DANGEROUS. >> THE BABY SHE WAS DESPERATELY TRYING TO FIND, HER SON, 16-MONTH-OLD TEVIN. >> AND THEN THEY BROUGHT OUT A BABY, AND THEY BROUGHT THE BABY OVER TO ME, LAID HIM ON THE CEMENT BENCH. AND I RECOGNIZED WHO THE BABY WAS. THEN THEY BROUGHT OUT ANOTHER BABY. THEN THEY LAID DOWN ANOTHER BABY IN A BLANKET AND THEN ANOTHER BABY, AND THEN ANOTHER BABY. >> SHE HAD BEEN AT THE DAYCARE CENTER EARLIER THAT DAY, AND SHE WAS AMONG THOSE WHO DID NOT SURVIVE. >> EVERYTHING FELL ON TOP OF THEM. >> IT'S THE MOST DEVASTATING THING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. >> WAS AN ATTACK ON INNOCENT CHILDREN. WE WILL FIND THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS. I ASK ALL AMERICANS TONIGHT TO PRAY. >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS. THE FBI AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY WILL PURSUE EVERY LEAD. >> THE COUNTRY WAS STILL REELING OVER THE BOMBING OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER JUST TWO YEARS EARLIER BY FOREIGN TERRORISTS. >> ALL WE KNOW IS THAT THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR TWO MEN DESCRIBED AS MIDDLE-EASTERN. THEY WERE LAST SEEN TRAVELING IN A LATE MODEL BROWN CHEVY PICKUP. >> THERE HAD BEEN SOME CLAIMS OF RESPONSIBILITY IN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. ONE SOMEBODY QUOTED THE NATION OF ISLAM. BUT AGAIN WE CAUTION PEOPLE TO REMEMBER THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENS ON THESE OCCASIONS. >> MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT FROM THE MESSAGING WE WERE GETTING THAT IT HAD BEEN DONE SOMEHOW BY MUSLIMS OR ARABS OR SOMETHING. >> THE FBI HAS ASKED THE U.S. MILITARY TO PROVIDE UP TO TEN ARABIC SPEAKERS TO HELP IN THE INVESTIGATION. >> BUT AS THE INVESTIGATION UNFOLDED, THE EVIDENCE POINTED IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION ENTIRELY. >> EARLY ON IN THE INVESTIGATION, THERE WAS A PIECE OF THE VEHICLE USED IN THE ATTACK THAT WAS QUICKLY UNCOVERED. AND THEY FOUND A VIN NUMBER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO TRACE THAT BACK TO TIMOTHY McVEIGH. >> A 26-YEAR-OLD MAN FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK, WAS ARRESTED WITHIN HOURS OF THE BOMBING. >> IN THOSE DAYS, SOME PEOPLE, THEY COULDN'T IMAGINE THAT SOME NICE FRESH-FACED AMERICAN HAD DONE SOMETHING. >> YET, McVEIGH, A DECORATED ARMY SERGEANT, BECAME THE STARTLING FACE BEHIND AMERICA'S DEADLIEST DOMESTIC TERRORIST ATTACK YET. >> IT WAS A SHOCK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT A FORMER SOLDIER WAS THE PERSON THAT HAD DONE THIS. WHEN YOU LOOKED AT TIMOTHY McVEIGH, HE LOOKED LIKE THE BOY NEXT DOOR. >> HERE HE COMES. MR. McVEIGH! >> ALL THE DISCUSSIONS WERE ABOUT WHY DID HE DO THIS, WHERE DID HE COME FROM, AND WHO IS HE CONNECTED TO? >> WE CAN ALSO GIVE YOU A BIT OF A HINT NOW AS TO WHERE THE GOVERNMENT APPEARS TO BE FOCUSING ITS INVESTIGATION ON SOME OF THE WHAT ARE CALLED RIGHT-WING WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. >> INSIDE McVEIGH'S YELLOW MERCURY SEDAN, INVESTIGATORS DISCOVERED A SEALED ENVELOPE CONTAINING EVIDENCE THAT WOULD PROVE CRUCIAL TO ANALYZING McVEIGH'S MOTIVATIONS. >> HIGHLIGHTED PASSENGERS FROM THE ANTI-GOVERNMENT NOVEL "THE TURNER DIARIES." >> THE WHITE POWER FANTASY NOVEL WRITTEN BY WILLIAM PIERCE AND LONG HELD SACRED BY THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT. >> HE USUALLY HAD A COPY WHEREVER HE WENT. AND HE OFTEN TIMES HAD EXTRA COPIES THAT HE WOULD GIVE TO OTHERS. >> AND IN RARELY HEARD AUDIOTAPES OBTAINED BY ABC NEWS, McVEIGH, THEN BEHIND BARS, SPOKE HIMSELF ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BOOK IN HIS LIFE. >> EXPLORE ISSUES OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS. I HAD BOUGHT THE TURNER DIARIES IN BULK. >> IT JUST SPELLED OUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAD A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO WHAT HAPPENED IN OKLAHOMA CITY. >> THERE'S A LONG PASSAGE IN THE TURNER DIARIES ABOUT A SIMILAR BOMBING THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHT AS McVEIGH BASED THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING ON, THE BOMB IS VERY SIMILAR, THE CIVILIAN CASUALTIES ARE VERY SIMILAR. >> BUT IT PLANTS SEEDS LIKE THAT. >> THE TURNER DIARIES GAVE McVEIGH NOT ONLY A BLUEPRINT FOR ACTION BUT THE LOCATION AND IDENTITY OF POTENTIAL ALLIES. >> HE WAS LOOKING FOR PLACES WHERE HE COULD POSSIBLY HIDE IF HE DIDN'T GET ARRESTED SHORTLY AFTER THE BOMBING. DID YOU INTENTIONALLY CALL THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE IN APRIL THREE DIFFERENT TIMES LEAVING MESSAGES TO TALK TO A REPRESENTATIVE? WHY DID YOU CALL? >> PRIMARY REASON WAS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE GUYS TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY SAFE HAVENS. >> HE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE TURNER DIARIES AUTHOR PIERCE OR HIS ORGANIZATION AS A POSSIBLE PLACE BUT THEY NEVER GOT BACK TO HIM. >> WILLIAM PIERCE ADDRESSED THE ATTACK HIMSELF IN AN INTERVIEW WITH "60 MINUTES" BACK IN 1996. >> WHEN YOU LEARNED THAT TIMOTHY McVEIGH WAS A DEVOTEEE OF THE TURNER DIARIES, DID YOU WONDER IF YOU COULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THAT? >> NO, I NEVER DID. >> I KNEW THAT WAS TYPICAL DAD BECAUSE I KNEW THAT HE WAS ABSOLUTELY APPROVE. AND HE WOULD SAY THAT THESE ARE UNFORTUNATE RESULTS OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS. >> AUTHORITIES NEVER DID TIE THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE TO THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING PINNING THE DEVASTATING CRIME ON McVEIGH AND THE FEW ACCOMPLICES. BUT IT BECAME CLEAR THAT McVEIGH'S TIES TO WHITE POWER GROUPS RAN DEEP. >> OUR BROTHERS ARE SURVIVALISTS AND I CAN GET ALONG WITH THEM REAL WELL. >> IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO ACCEPT THAT TIM HAD IN FACT JOINED THE KU KLUX KLAN. HE TRIED TO DOWNPLAY THAT. BUT OTHER COMMENTS SHOWED THAT HOSTILE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE PEOPLE OF COLOR. >> YOU TALK ABOUT THE IDEOLOGY OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS, NEO-NAZIS, RACISTS, THE MOST EXTREME PEOPLE WANT THE REVOLUTION. AND McVEIGH WANTED THE REVOLUTION AS WELL. >> WITHIN THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT, THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING STANDS AS THE CULMINATION OF DECADES OF ORGANIZING. >> THIS WAS THE INCIDENT THAT THESE GROUPS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR TO START WHAT THEY CONSIDER WAR. THEY CONSIDER McVEIGH A SOLDIER IN THE WAR. >> HE WAS TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE TO ARMS AND TO PROVOKE A RACE WAR THAT WOULD UNSEAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND CREATE AN ALL-WHITE ETHNICITY. IT'S MEANT TO BE A BATTLE STRIKE. >> McVEIGH ENGAGED IN LENGTHY PREPARATIONS. >> HE SUBSCRIBED TO WHITE POWER NEWSPAPERS. HE READ UP ON OTHER WHITE POWER GROUPS INCLUDING THE ORDER. >> THE ORDER IS MILITANTLY ANTI-GOVERNMENT AND ANTI-SEMITIC. AND ITS MEMBERS HAVE BEEN LINKED TO ARMORED CAR ROBBERIES IN WASHINGTON AND CALIFORNIA. >> THE ORDER WAS A WHITE TERRORIST GROUP THAT WAS INTERESTED IN PERPETUATING A WAR ON THE GOVERNMENT AND BRINGING ABOUT RACE WAR. >> SITUATED JUST A FEW MILES FROM SUBURBAN LAWNS, THE AREA NATION'S COMPOUND IN HAYDEN LAKE, IDAHO, WAS ONCE THE EPICENTER OF THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT. >> THEY WOULD LIGHT CROSSES AND SWASTIKAS. IT WAS THE BASE OF OPERATIONS FOR GROUPS LIKE THE ORDER THAT WENT OUT TO CARRY OUT VIOLENT ACTIVISM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> AND IT WAS HERE AT A CRUCIAL MEETING IN 1983 WHERE THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT DECLARED WAR ON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND GAVE BIRTH TO ITS DEADLIEST STRATEGY YET. LEADERLESS RESISTANCE. >> LEADERLESS RESISTANCE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD NOW THINK OF AS CELL-STYLE TERROR. IT'S THE IDEA THAT IF ONE CELL GOES DOWN, IT DOESN'T TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION. >> AND McVEIGH INSISTED HE WAS THE SOLE ATTACKER IN OKLAHOMA. >> WHEN McVEIGH SAYS HE ACTS ALONE, WHAT HE IS DOING IS ATTEMPTING TO OBSCURE THE MOVEMENT THAT HE HAS BECOME A WHAT THAT ACTION DOES IS OBSCURE SOCIETY'S ABILITY TO SEE THE BROADER MOVEMENT AND TO RECKON WITH IT. >> BABY KILLER! >> IN THE LEADUP TO THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING, WHITE POWER FRUSTRATIONS HAD REACHED A FEVER PITCH, BEGINNING WITH A 1992 MOUNTAIN TOP SHOWDOWN THAT BEGAN OVER AN ILLEGAL FIREARMS INVESTIGATION. >> RANDY WEAVER HAS TOLD FRIENDS ALL HE WANTS IS TO BE LEFT ALONE. BUT WITH THE SUDDEN APPEARANCE OF MILITARY HARDWARE LIKE THIS, HIS ONE-MAN-STAND AGAINST THE LAW IS SUDDENLY TAKING ON THE APPEARANCE OF A FULL BLOWN WAR. >> AT RUBY RIDGE, FEDERAL SHARP SHOOTERS OPENED FIRE ON A FAMILY OF WHITE POWER ACTIVISTS. >> THE VIOLENT STANDOFF RESULTED IN THE DEATHS OF A U.S. MARSHAL RANDY WEAVER'S WIFE AND THEIR 14-YEAR-OLD SON. >> AN 11-DAY SIEGE LEAVES A MOTHER AND SON DEBT, SHOT BY FEDERAL AGENTS. >> A YEAR LATER, FEDERAL AGENTS TRIED TO RAID A CULT COMPOUND OUT WACO, TEXAS, IN CONNECTION TO AN INVESTIGATION WITH ILLEGAL GUNS. >> 15 WOUNDED IN A SHOOTOUT AT THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE BRANCH DRAVIDIAN SECT. >> IT'S BELIEVED ABOUT 70 PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THE COMPOUND INCLUDING CHILDREN. THEY ARE HEAVILY ARMED. A FORMER MEMBER OF THE SECT SAYS DAVID KARISH HAS THEIR UNDYING SUPPORT. >> AFTER A 51-DAY STANDOFF, FEDERAL AGENTS EVENTUALLY MOVED IN WITH TANKS TO END THE SIEGE CULMINATING IN A MASSIVE FIRE AND THE DEATH OF 76, INCLUDING 25 CHILDREN. >> BACK UP NOW! >> JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT COULD'VE GONE WRONG IN THIS BIZARRE TALE HAS. >> WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND ANTI-GOVERNMENT MILITIAS SEIZED ON THE FEDERAL RAID OF THE BRANCH COMPOUND AT WACO AS A RALLYING CRY, EVEN THOUGH THE DAVIDIANS DID NOT SUBSCRIBE TO A RACIST IDEOLOGY. >> THESE ARE CERTAINLY NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT PARAMILITARY POLICING WAS USED ON AMERICAN CIVILIANS. THE RUBY RIDGE AND WACO ARE IMPORTANT TO THIS MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST TIME IT IMPACTS WHITE PEOPLE. >> THE DEADLY EVENTS AT WACO TOOK PLACE PRECISELY TWO YEARS TO THE DAY BEFORE THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. >> RUBY RIDGE AND WACO WERE CALLS TO ARMS FOR THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT. >> McVEIGH WAS AMONG THOSE WHO ANSWERED THE CALL. >> THAT WAS THE FINAL BLOW IN HIS MIND. AND SO HE ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BECOME CONVINCED THAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS THE ENEMY. >> THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, IF NOT WRITTEN DOWN, ARE DEFIANT BY THE ACTIONS OF AN AGGRESSOR. WHAT RULES OF ENGAGEMENT WOULD YOU INTERPRET IN EXAMINING RUBY RIDGE AND WACO? KIDS ARE FAIR GAME, WOMEN ARE FAIR GAME. WACO STARTED THIS WAR. HOPEFULLY IT WON'T GO UNENDED. >> TIMOTHY McVEIGH WAS EXECUTED ON JUNE 11th, 2001. >> IT IS ABSOLUTELY SAD AND TRAGIC THAT MOST OF US KNEW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MOVEMENT IN WHICH TIMOTHY McVEIGH WAS EMBEDDED. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR THE TENTACLES REACHED. >> BUT IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE WARNINGS THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN. >> SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE BOMBING IN OKLAHOMA CITY, THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER SENT A LETTER TO THEN ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO. WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE SEEING IN TERMS OF THE THREAT FROM THE ANTI-GOVERNMENT MOVEMENT. WE JUST SAW MORE AND MORE OF THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENING ON THE GROUND. IF,>> THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE A NEW AND A TOUGHER LOOK AT THE WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS, THE HATE GROUPS, THE MILITIAS? IS THIS GOING TO TRIGGER ANY KIND OF CRACKDOWN? >> LET ME SAY THAT WE NEED TO FINISH THIS INVESTIGATION NOW. >> AT THE TIME, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH OF A THREAT WE WERE DEALING WITH WITHIN OUR OWN COUNTRY. >> IT HAS NEVER BEEN TAKEN AS SERIOUSLY AS IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. >> THAT WORKING STREET AGENTS OF THE FBI WHO WERE ASSIGNED TO THESE TYPES OF CASES UNDERSTOOD THE POTENTIAL VIOLENCE THAT THESE GROUPS COULD ENGAGE IN AND WERE VERY FRUSTRATED THAT THEIR EFFORTS TO OPEN INVESTIGATIONS WERE OFTEN STIFLED AT HEADQUARTERS. >> WE HAD ALL OF THESE INTERNAL CONTROLS THAT WERE BEING PLACED ON OUR ABILITY TO REALLY DEVELOP INTELLIGENCE. SO, WE BACKED AWAY, AND THEN WE EVEN BACKED AWAY FURTHER. >> AND THEN SOMETHING STRANGE HAPPENED. THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT WENT SEEMINGLY QUIET. >> INITIALLY AFTER THE BOMBING I THINK MOST OF THE GROUPS KIND OF WENT UNDERGROUND AS QUIETLY AS THEY COULD. >> CLEARLY THEY DIDN'T GO AWAY BECAUSE THEY CAME BACK. BUT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IT WAS. >>> MOST OF MY EXPERIENCES WITH MY DAD WERE PRETTY AWFUL. >> TODAY, CALVIN PIERCE SPENDS A LOT OF TIME AT HIS OWN CABIN IN THE WOODS REFLECTING ON HIS PAST. >> WHEN I WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL, I REMEMBER SEEING A LOT OF MY CLASSMATES COME TO SCHOOL WEARING THEIR FOOTBALL JERSEYS ON GAME DAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO DO THAT SO BAD. I WANTED TO JOIN THAT TEAM. SO, I APPROACHED MY MOM AND DAD, AND I COULDN'T EVEN GET HALFWAY THROUGH MY QUESTION BEFORE, NO, YOU CANNOT DO THAT. AND I'M, LIKE, WHY? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SHOWER WITH BLACKS. I WILL NOT ALLOW THAT. AND HE DIDN'T USE THE WORD BLACKS. >> AND AT THE HANDS OF HIS FATHER, CALVIN SAYS HE ENDURED BOTH EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL ABUSE. >> AN ELECTRIC RAZOR CORD OR A BELT OR A TWO-BY-FOUR. HE REALLY LIKED TO USE A METAL COAT HANGER. HE WOULD ORDER ME TO REMOVE ALL OF MY CLOTHES, AND THEN HE WOULD JUST PROCEED TO WHALE AWAY AT ME. >> BUT FOR CALVIN PIERCE, GROWING UP THE CHILD OF ONE OF THE NATION'S MOST INFAMOUS WHITE SUPREMACISTS WAS ALSO QUITE COMPLICATED. >> EVEN THOUGH I HATED MY DAD AND I WAS AFRAID OF HIM, I PRETTY MUCH BELIEVED WHAT HE TAUGHT ME. I ACTUALLY BELIEVED WHEN I WAS A KID THAT BLACK PEOPLE WERE SUBHUMAN THAT, THEY WEREN'T HUMAN BEINGS. >> TO THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT, VIOLENCE IS A MEANS TO AN END, SOMETHING THAT CALVIN PIERCE SAYS WAS ENGRAINED IN HIS UPBRINGING. >> I REMEMBER FANTASYING ABOUT GOING INTO WASHINGTON, D.C. AND STANDING ON A STREET CORNER HOLDING A MACHINE GUN AND MOWING DOWN BLACK PEOPLE WITH THAT MACHINE GUN BECAUSE THEN MY DAD WOULD'VE BEEN PROUD OF ME. AND I WOULD BE TAKING MY REVENGE OUT ON THE PEOPLE WHO I FELT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY DAD BEING THE WAY HE WAS. >> BUT AS A COLLEGE STUDENT AT VIRGINIA TECH, CALVIN BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS, AND HE STARTED WITH HIS INFAMOUS FATHER. >> I DID ASK HIM POINT BLANK, YOU KNOW, DAD, WHY DID YOU DO THIS? AND THE ONLY ANSWER HE COULD GIVE ME WAS, I DID THE ONLY RESPONSIBLE THING I COULD DO. SO, HE DIDN'T SEE IT AS A DARKNESS. WHAT HE SAW IN IT WAS, IN HIS MIND, WAS A TRUE THREAT TO WHAT HE CONSIDERED WAS HIS KIND, HIS RACE. >> THAT ANSWER WAS NOT ENOUGH FOR CALVIN. >> I LEARNED THAT I DID NOT NEED TO ATTACH MYSELF AND MY SELF-WORTH TO ALL OF THE FEARFUL AND HATEFUL THOUGHTS THAT WERE CONTINUALLY RUNNING THROUGH MY MIND. AND THEN I HAD A DIFFERENT CHOICE. >> AS THE YEARS WENT ON CALVIN FELL OUT OF TOUCH WITH HIS FATHER WHO HAD LEFT THE FAMILY AND HAD MOVED PERMANENTLY TO HIS WEST VIRGINIA COMPOUND. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT FAR FROM THE SPOTLIGHT OF AUTHORITIES CONTINUED TO ADD FOLLOWERS. >> THIS IS A CONVENTION OF BIGOTS. THEY CALL THE 1986 WORLD ARYAN CONGRESS. >> MR. McVEIGH! >> THE '90s WAS KIND OF A HEYDAY WITH TIMOTHY McVEIGH AND RUBY RIDGE AND THE MILITIAS OF THE DAY. THAT WAS KIND OF THE LAST TIME THAT WE SEEMED TO, AS A COUNTRY, REALLY GRAPPLE WITH THIS RIGHT-WING EXTREMISM. >> AND AS THE YEARS PASSED, OFFICIALS WOULD FACE ANOTHER BATTLE ON THE HOME FRONT. >> THIS IS A DIFFICULT MOMENT FOR AMERICA. TODAY WE'VE HAD A NATIONAL TRAGEDY. >> THERE WAS CHAOS IN NEW YORK. BOTH TRADE TOWERS NOW. THESE 110-STORY-HIGHTOWERS HAVE NOW BEEN HIT. >> 9/11 HAPPENED AND OUR FOCUS SHIFTED OVERSEAS. >> WE TOOK OUR EYES OFF THE BALL IN TERMS OF THE THREAT FROM DOMESTIC TERRORISM. >> ITSELF BUT WHILE WHITE POWER COMPOUNDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY APPEARED NEARLY DESERTED, EXPERTS WARN OTHERWISE. >> ONE SHOULDN'T THINK THAT THE MOVEMENT IS DEAD BECAUSE THE COMPOUND IS EMPTY, JUST THAT THEY HAVE FOUND OTHER PLACES FROM WHICH TO WAGE WAR. >> INDEED BEHIND THE SCENES WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS WERE ACTUALLY ORGANIZING AND GAINING STRENGTH. >> THIS MOVEMENT OPPORTUNISTICALLY RELOCATED TO OTHER PLACES. [ APPLAUSE ] >> I, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. >> BY 2008, ELECTION OF AMERICA'S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT BROUGHT ON A SURGE OF WHITE POWER ACTIVISM. >> I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WERE SO OUTRAGED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAD A BLACK MAN AS A PRESIDENT AND THAT IT DIDN'T FIT THEIR IMAGE OF WHAT A BLACK MAN WAS. >> WHITE POWER ACTIVISTS SPENT THE YEARS AFTER OBAMA'S ELECTION CONNECTING WITH A POWERFUL TOOL, THE INTERNET. >> THESE ARE ACTIVISTS WHO HAVE BEEN ONLINE SINCE THE EARLY 1980s. >> WE'VE BEEN ON THE INTERNET FOR A LONG TIME. AND FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, MY IDEA HAS BEEN THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BUILD A MULTIMEDIA COMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE. >> BUT THERE REALLY IS AN ACCELERATION NOW AND THERE REALLY IS A CAPACITY TO RECRUIT AND RADICALIZE PEOPLE WITHOUT EVER MEETING THEM IN REAL LIFE. >> POLICE SAY DYLAN WALKED INTO THAT CHURCH WITH A PREMEDITATED PLAN TO KILL. >> SO THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE THERE IS DYLAN RUTH. >> IN 2015, RUTH MURDERED NINE BLACK PARISHIONERS IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. >> THIS MORNING THE 21-YEAR-OLD WHO REPORTEDLY WANTED TO START A RACE WAR IS FACING THE INSIDE OF A COLD JAIL. >> I HAD TO DO IT BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO DO IT. >> WOULD YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A WHITE SUPREMACIST? >> I DO CONSIDER MYSELF A WHITE SUPREMACIST, SURE. IF YOU'RE BORN SUPERIOR. >> DYLAN SEEMS NOT TO HAVE HAD MUCH CONTACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE MOVEMENT IN REAL LIFE BUT WAS RADICALIZED ONLINE. >> THE REACTION TO OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT TELLS US THAT WE'RE NOT POST-RACIAL AND THAT MANY PEOPLE DID NOT APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT HE HAD ELECTED A PRESIDENT. SO HIS ELECTION WAS NOT A SYMBOL THAT WE HAD SOLVED THE RACE PROBLEM. >> I WILL DO MY BEST TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, NOT PULL THEM APART. >> HONESTLY, PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN ARE SAFER THAN SOME OF OUR INNER CITIES. >> BY THE 2016 ELECTION CYCLE. >> YOU ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS PERSON TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF AMERICA. >> CROOKED HILLARY. SHE IS CROOKED. >> ANIMOSITY WAS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH. >> WE ALL BECAME MORE AWARE OF HATE CRIMES, MORE AWARE OF CIVIL UNREST DURING THE CAMPAIGN SEASON. AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON IF THIS WAS A GROWING TREND. >> BUT THEN, CHARLOTTESVILLE HAPPENED IN AUGUST OF 2017. AND FOR MANY OF US, IT WAS A HUGE WAKEUP MOMENT. >> RACIST NAZIS LITERALLY SHOWED UP. THESE PEOPLE FELT VERY COMFORTABLE BEING OUT IN THE OPEN IN THE LIGHT OF DAY TO PUSH THEIR HATRED. >> DO YOU LOOK AT CHARLOTTESVILLE AND SEE THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT ON THE MARCH? >> LIKE, A MONSTER THAT WENT INTO HIBERNATION. AND THIS WAS EVIDENCE THAT THE MONSTER HAS COME OUT. >> WE WERE ALL SHOCKED THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTRY IN 2017. THIS IS NOT 1920. THIS IS 2017. [ SCREAMING ] >> CHARLOTTESVILLE WAS A PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR ME BECAUSE WATCHING THOSE PEOPLE MARCH AND CARRYING THOSE TORCHES AND SINGING THE TUNE THAT THEY WERE SINGING, "YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US," THAT IMMEDIATELY TRANSPORTED ME BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD AND TO MY FATHER AND TO EVERYTHING THAT HE BELIEVED IN AND EVERYTHING THAT HE WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP ADDRESSED CHARLOTTESVILLE BEHIND THE SCENES, COUNTERTERRORISM OFFICIALS WERE GETTING ANXIOUS. >> WE WERE JUST HOPING THAT HE WOULDN'T GET IN THE WAY OF IT. INSTEAD, WE GOT EVEN A WORSE SCENARIO. >> YOU ALSO HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE VERY FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES. >> THE ONE THING THE PRESIDENT COULD DO IS TELL HIS, YOU KNOW, BIGGEST SUPPORTERS, TELL THEM, DON'T TAKE MATTERS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS, DO NOT BE A VIGILANTE. BUT HE DOESN'T DO THAT. >> IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS WHO TRY TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE THROUGH THAT HATE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PLANTING THE SEEDS OF HOMEGROWN VIOLENCE WITHIN OUR OWN COUNTRY. >> AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE, THE COUNTERTERRORISM TEAM AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY ATTEMPTED TO SHIFT THEIR FOCUS TO THE THREAT POSED BY THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENTS BY INCREASING DATA COLLECTION AND UPPING THE THREAT LEVEL DESIGNATION. >> ADD IT TO THE NATIONAL COUNTERTERRORISM STRATEGY. WE OFFERED A NUMBER OF WAYS TO PRIORITIZE THIS AND WE WERE REBUFFED OVER THE COURSE OF MULTIPLE TIMES. >> THE WHITE HOUSE SAID CONTRARY TO THESE MERITLESS ALLEGATIONS, THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT TO THIS PRESIDENT THAN PROTECTING THE U.S. FROM ALL THREATS BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AND HE HAS REPEATEDLY TAKEN STRONG ACTIONS TO KEEP AMERICA SAFE. BUT ELIZABETH NEWMAN WHO LEFT HER POST AND IS NOW PART OF A GROUP OF FORMER CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS SAID THE WHITE HOUSE REFUSED TO TACKLE THE ISSUE HEAD OCTOBER. >> THIS PRESIDENT SEEMED TO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHITE SUPREMACY IN THIS COUNTRY. THAT LACK OF CLARITY OF WHAT THE THREAT IS COMING FROM THE TOP I THINK HAS ALLOWED IT TO SPREAD AND METASTASIZE. >> IT'S A CANCER IN THE FABRIC OF THIS COUNTRY THAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE BECOMES MORE BENIGN. BUT STILL REMAINS A CANCER. >> A SHORT TIME AGO WE WERE DISPATCHED TO ACTIVE GUNFIRE AT THE TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE. >> 2018 AND 2019 SAW A HISTORIC INCREASE IN WHITE POWER VIOLENCE. >> BREAKING NEWS, WE ARE LEARNING NOW ABOUT THE SYNAGOGUE MASSACRE. >> WITH THE DEADLIEST ATTACKS AGAINST BOTH JEWISH AND LATINO COMMUNITIES IN AMERICAN HISTORY TAKING PLACE. 11 PEOPLE MURDERED AT THE TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE IN PITTSBURG. >> SHOPPERS RUNNING FOR THEIR LIVES AS THOSE GUNSHOTS RANG OUT. >> AND 23 GUNNED DOWN AT AN EL PASO WALMART. >> MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE FATALITIES. >> HATE HAS NO PLACE IN OUR COUNTRY. AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. >> AFTER EL PASO HAPPENED, THERE WAS A LOT OF APPROPRIATE ACTIVITY AT THE WHITE HOUSE WHERE THEY WERE EXAMINING WHAT POLICY CHANGES MIGHT NEED TO OCCUR. >> IF WE ARE ABLE TO PASS GREAT LEGISLATION AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS, WE WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO WERE ATTACKED WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN. >> THEY REVIVED THEIR EARLIER PLANS TO PRIORITIZE WHITE POWER THREATS, NOW A NUMBER ONE THREAT. >> WE'VE HAD MORE ATTACKS AND MORE DEATHS FROM RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST VIOLENCE THAN FROM ANY OTHER TYPE OF THREAT INCLUDING RADICAL ISLAMIST JIHADISM. >> BUT ALONG THE WAY SHE SAID SHE RECEIVED AN UNUSUAL REQUEST BY THE WHITE HOUSE. >> THEY DIRECTED ME THAT YOUR PREVENTION PLAN IS GOOD, WE WANT TO SUPPORT IT. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT IN THE FRAMING OF DOMESTIC TERROR. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS LIKE VIOLENCE PREVENTION. THE MESSAGE WAS CLEAR THAT WE COULDN'T TALK ABOUT DOMESTIC TERRORISM AT THE WHITE HOUSE. >>> ARE YOU ALONG TONIGHT TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND MILITIA GROUPS? >> I WOULD SAY ALMOST EVERYTHING I SEE IS FROM THE LEFT WING, NOT FROM THE RIGHT WING. >> SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING -- >> I'M ALONG TO DO ANYTHING I WANT TO SEE PEACE. >> THEN DO IT, SIR. SAY IT. >> DO YOU WANT TO CALL THEM -- WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CALL THEM? GIVE ME A NAME. >> WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND RIGHT-WING -- >> STAND BACK AND STAND BY. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. >> IT WAS A MOMENT UNHEARD OF IN A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. >> HE NOT ONLY DID NOT CONDEMN THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN CRITICIZE THEM. >> HE SAID THAT INTENTIONALLY AND THAT JUST STOKED FEAR IN THE HEARTS OF NOT JUST BLACK AMERICANS BUT ALL AMERICANS. >> TRUMP 2020. [ CHANTING ] >> THE NATION'S SPOTLIGHT SUDDENLY THRUST UPON THE PROUD BOYS, AN EXTREMIST FAR-RIGHT GROUP FOUNDED IN 2016. ITS LEADERS DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS A WESTERN CHAUVINIST ORGANIZATION. BUT EXPERTS WE SPOKE WITH SAY THEY'VE MADE ALLIES OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS. >> THE PROUD BOYS ARE A NEO-FASCIST GROUP THAT BELIEVE SOCIETY IS STRONGER WHEN IT'S MALE DOMINATED AND BASED ON WESTERN CULTURAL VALUES. WHAT MAKES THEM DANGEROUS IS THEIR WILLINGNESS TO USE VIOLENCE TO SPREAD THEIR IDEOLOGICAL BELIEFS. >> EVEN PROUD BOYS FOUNDERS SEEMED TAKEN ABACK AS HIS REACTION WAS LIVESTREAMED DURING THE DEBATE. JUST DAYS BEFORE THE PROUD BOYS HAD GATHERED IN PORTLAND, OREGON, WHERE THE FRACTURES IN AMERICAN CULTURE WERE VIVIDLY DISPLAYED. AS MEMBERS OF THE PROUD BOYS AND COUNTERPROTESTERS HELD OPPOSING RALLIES. >> ONE OF THE WAYS PROUD BOYS WILL COMMUNICATE THEIR IDEOLOGY IS BY SELF-DEPLOYING TO PROTESTS WHERE THEY WILL ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES WHERE THEY CAN CLAIM THEY ARE PROVIDING SECURITY. LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE NO NEED FOR ARMED VIGILANTES, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE IDEOLOGICAL EXTREMISTS. >> THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE MOMENT WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FACED CRITICISM FOR NOT DENOUNCING WHITE POWER GROUPS. >> IT'S SOMEWHAT MIND-BOGGLING BECAUSE WHILE HIS FBI AND HIS DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAVE WARNED OF AN INCREASE IN VIOLENCE BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND FAR-RIGHT EXTREMISTS, THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND INSTEAD TALKS ABOUT THE VIOLENCE PERPETRATED BY LEFT WING. >> IT'S AN ACCUSATION THE PRESIDENT HAS FACED FOR YEARS AGAIN AND AGAIN. >> ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT YOU MIGHT BE STOKING MORE RACIAL VIOLENCE OR MORE -- >> NO, NOT AT ALL. >> THE PRESIDENT DID ADDRESS THE ISSUE THE DAY AFTER THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WHEN PRESSED BY ABC NEWS' KEIR SIMMONS. >> THEY CLEARLY LOVE YOU AND SUPPORT YOU. DO YOU WELCOME THAT? >> I WANT LAW AND ORDER TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PART. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF MY CAMPAIGN. >> BUT DO YOU DENOUNCE THEM? >> I DENOUNCE ANY FORM OF ANY OF THAT YOU HAVE TO DENOUNCE. >> CAN I FOLLOW UP TO THAT, MR. PRESIDENT? >> CLEARLY, THERE IS ANGER IN OUR COUNTRY. THAT'S HOW TRUMP WON IN 2016 WAS RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WAS DEEP-SEATED DISCONTENT WITH THE WAY THINGS WERE. THERE WAS ANGER. AND THEN WORSE, IT BECAME REALLY CLEAR THAT HIS RHETORIC WAS INSPIRING VIOLENCE. >> AN ABC NEWS INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT SINCE DONALD TRUMP EMERGED AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN 2015, AT LEAST 20 PEOPLE CHARGED WITH HATE-FUELED ASSAULTS OR THREATS CITED TRUMP SPECIFICALLY IN CONNECTION TO THEIR ACTIONS. WE COULDN'T FIND ANY SUCH CASES TIED TO EITHER PRESIDENT BUSH OR PRESIDENT OBAMA. AT A GAS STATION IN BELLEVUE, WASHINGTON, A MAN ACCUSED OF TRYING TO RUN DOWN TWO BROTHERS WITH HIS TRUCK AND THREATENING TO KILL THEM FOR BEING MUSLIM. >> I THINK I SAID, YOU KNOW, PLEASE GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THEM HERE. AND THIS IS WHY I LIKE TRUMP. HE'S DOING THE SAME THING AS I FEEL. >> THIS IS FOR TRUMP. >> BUT EVEN A PRESIDENT'S RHETORIC AND A COLLECTION OF CASES CITING HIM CAN'T TRULY ACCOUNT FOR WHAT'S UNFOLDING ACROSS AMERICA RIGHT NOW. >> RACIALLY MOTIVATED VIOLENT EXTREMISTS OVER RECENT YEARS HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MOST LETHAL ACTIVITY IN THE U.S. >> AND IT TURNS OUT SOME OF THOSE VIOLENT EXTREMISTS ARRESTED BY THE FBI IN RECENT YEARS HAVE BEEN MOTIVATED BY SOMEONE LONG OUT OF PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS FOR MOST AMERICANS, NONE OTHER THAN TIMOTHY McVEIGH. >> DEADLY STABBING OF TWO GOOD SAMARITANS. >> RAMPAGE ON A PORTLAND TRAIN. >> POLICE SAY CHRISTIAN STABBED AND KILLED 23-YEAR-OLD -- >> AND A 21-YEAR-OLD BRANDON RUSSELL. >> AND A FAMED PICTURE OF OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBER TIMOTHY McVEIGH. >> HE WAS SENTENCED TO FIVE YEARS IN PRISON. >> HE HAD A PORTRAIT OF TIMOTHY McVEIGH ON HIS NIGHTSTAND. THE GUY HAS BECOME THIS HERO IN THE ANTI-GOVERNMENT MOVEMENT. >> ANOTHER CASE IN 2017 TARGETING OKLAHOMA CITY ONCE AGAIN, JUST FOUR BLOCKS FROM THE SITE OF THE MURRAH BUILDING BOMBING. >> WE HAD INFORMATION THAT A MAN NAMED JERRY DRAKE VARNEL INTENDED TO DESTROY A BUILDING WITH A LARGE VEHICLE-BORN IED. JERRY IS BEHIND BARS ACCUSING OF WANTING TO BLOW UP A BANK IN DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY. >> WHAT WAS YOUR REASON? WHY DID YOU DO IT? >> TO WAKE THE PEOPLE. >> REPEATEDLY HE REFERRED BACK TO McVEIGH. >> HE SPECIFICALLY WANTED A THOUSAND-POUND DEVICE WHICH IS THE TYPE OF EXPLOSIVE McVEIGH USED. McVEIGH SAID THE CHILDREN THAT WERE KILLED IN THE BUILDING WERE COLLATERAL DAMAGE. MR. VARNEL MADE A COMMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO BREAK A FEW EGGS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AN OMELET. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO THROUGH THE COURSE TAKE MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MATERIALS HE WAS DEALING WITH WERE INCAPABLE OF EXPLODING. >> AND UNDER HEAVY SURVEILLANCE FROM THE FBI DROVE IT TO DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY. >> THE VAN CAME FROM THE NORTH, TURNED RIGHT INTO THE ALLEYWAY. MR. VARNEL WAS THERE FOR A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME, WALKED ON FOOT TO THE GETAWAY VEHICLE. >> WOULD BE DIALING A TELEPHONE NUMBER INTO A CELL PHONE AND HE DIALED THAT NUMBER THREE TIMES TO TRY TO DETONATE THE DEVICE. >> EARLIER THIS YEAR, JERRY VARNELL WAS TRIED AND CONVICTED IN A COURTROOM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SITE OF THE BOMBING 25 YEARS EARLIER AND WAS SENTENCED TO 25 YEARS IN PRISON. >> IT'S A STORY OF A WHOLE WEB OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTED IN THAT KIND OF VIOLENT ACTION, WHO WANT EVENTS LIKE THIS, WHO WORSHIP McVEIGH AS A SAINT, WHO TAKE HIM AS INSPIRATION IN THE PRESENT. >> I DO NOT THINK THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO FORGET WHAT OKLAHOMA CITY IS ALL ABOUT. BECAUSE IT IS A REALITY THAT WE MAY VERY WELL HAVE TO CONFRONT AGAIN IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THE 1995 OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING REMAINS THE DEADLIEST HOME-GROWN TERROR ATTACK IN AMERICAN HISTORY TO. LOOK BACK AT HISTORY IS TO SEE A LONG LINE OF OTHER RACIALLY MOTIVATED EPISODES WELL BEFORE. >> WE'VE HAD RACISM AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAD IT BEFORE TRUMP. >> WHAT SEEMS "NIGHTLINE WEEKEND" HERE IS NOT NEW BUT IS PART OF THIS LONG LEGACY OF ACTIVISM, OF PEOPLE WORKING AND BUILDING AND ORGANIZING OVER TIME. >> THAT HATE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW IS THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THAT THEIR HATE NOW IS UNASSAILABLE. >> THE BLOGS, THE TROLLS, ACTIONS LIKE CHARLOTTESVILLE, RUNS FOR OFFICE, POSTERS ON YOUR CAMPUS, ALL OF THESE ARE OLD STRATEGIES FROM THE MOVEMENT FOR PUBLIC-FACING RECRUITMENT EFFORTS. >> ONE REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION. >> AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN EXPECT TO ALSO SEE A VIOLENT UNDERGROUND THAT IS DOING PARAMILITARY TRAINING, ACQUISITION OF WEAPONS, INFRASTRUCTURE TARGET ATTACKS. >> INDEED, MEMBERS OF MODERN WHITE POWER GROUPS HAVE BEEN TIED TO AT LEAST FIVE MURDERS AND MULTIPLE BOMB PLOTS IN RECENT YEARS AND EMBRACED TACTICS ONCE HONED BY THE ORDERS AND TIMOTHY McVEIGH. >> THE DANGER NOW IS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN RACIST TERMS WHO OTHERWISE USED TO BE UNDER THE ROCKS IN THE CREVICES. BUT NOW THEY'RE OUT. >> WE'RE IN A PERIOD THAT PEOPLE ARE REFERRING TO AS A RACIAL RECKONING. IT BEGAN AFTER THE PUBLIC LYNCHING, MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD. >> THE DEATH OF FLOYD AND OTHER UNARMED BLACK PEOPLE AT THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTINUE TO SPARK PROTESTS, MARCHES, AND CALLS FOR POLICE REFORM IN HUNDREDS OF CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IN MANY CASES, FRUSTRATIONS ARE BEING EXPRESSED LOUDLY AND PEACEFULLY. BUT IN SEVERAL CITIES -- VIOLENCE. LOOTING. DESTRUCTION. >> SEEING ALL THESE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE IN THE STREET PROTESTING FOR RACIAL JUSTICE, THAT IS, FOR THEM, AN OPPORTUNITY. AND YOU SEE BULLETIN AFTER BULLETIN FROM DHS AND THE FBI WARNING LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THERE ARE THESE FORCES OUT THERE WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY. >> PEOPLE WHO ESPOUSE WHITE SUPREMACY REALLY LOOK FOR MOMENTS IN TIME THAT THEY VIEW AS CHAOTIC SO THAT THEY CAN CAPITALIZE ON THAT AND PUSH THE COUNTRY TOWARD CIVIL WAR. >> EXPERTS WARN THAT THERE WILL INEVITABLY BE MORE VIOLENCE. >> THIS IS A SERIOUS MOVEMENT THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. >> THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE VICTIMS. >> WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE COUNTRY. IT'S GETTING WORSE. AND PERHAPS WE WILL HAVE TO ENDURE ANOTHER OKLAHOMA CITY, OR WORSE. >> THIS IS A REAL TEST. IT'S A WAKE-UP CALL FOR OUR COUNTRY. IT'S NOT JUST RUSSIA. IT'S NOT JUST CHINA. IT'S NOT JUST IRAN. [ CHANTING ] >> THE REALITY IS OUR COUNTRY CAN COLLAPSE NOT JUST FROM FOREIGN ADVERSARIES. WE CAN COLLAPSE FROM WITHIN. AND OKLAHOMA CITY IS A REMINDER OF THAT FACT. >>> BACK IN WEST VIRGINIA, CALVIN PIERCE'S SEARCH FOR HIS FATHER'S NATIONAL ALLIANCE COMPOUND LEADS HIM TO A MUDDY ROAD OFF A RURAL HIGHWAY. >> THIS IS IT, THE ROAD LEADING TO MY DAD'S COMPOUND. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN VEHICLES ON THIS ROAD RECENTLY. BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL SEE TIRE TRACKS IN THE MUD. I'M GUESSING THERE ARE PEOPLE UP HERE. >> CAN I HELP YOU? >> MY NAME IS CALVIN PIERCE. I WAS DR. PIERCE'S SON. IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET PERMISSION TO WALK AROUND? >> YEAH, IF YOU LEAVE YOUR CAMERA IN THE TRUCK. >> ABC PRODUCERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO FILM INSIDE THE COMPOUND. BUT CALVIN PIERCE ON THE GROUND FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE WILLIAM PIERCE DIED IN 2002, TOOK PHOTOS ON HIS PHONE. >> I GOT TO SEE MY DAD'S TRAILER WHERE HE LIVED AND WHERE HE DIED. AND, YEAH, JUST BROUGHT IT ALL BACK. >> AND TO CALVIN'S SURPRISE, THE COMPOUND IS NO LONGER EMPTY. >> IT SAT DERELICT FOR YEARS BUT NOW THEY HAVE PEOPLE HERE AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE KIND OF TRYING TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE. >> THE CURRENT LEADER OF THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED BY ABC NEWS. BUT SAID THE GROUP DOES NOT ALLOW ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY OR VIOLENCE FROM MEMBERS. AND IN A STATEMENT SAID WE IN THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE BELIEVE THAT OUR RACE IS WORTH PRESERVING. TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, WE, AS RACIAL SEPARATISTS, SIMPLY ADVOCATE GEOGRAPHIC SEPARATION OF THE RACES BY WHATEVER MEANS IT TAKES. THERE CAN BE NO SO-CALLED WHITE SUPREMACY WHEN WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME SPACE AS NONWHITES. CALVIN SPOKE TO WILLIAMS OVER THE PHONE ABOUT HIS FATHER AND THE FUTURE. >> HE SAID EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE ARE DOWN AND OUT, BUT HE SAID WE ARE DEFINITELY BACK. FOR CALVIN PIERCE, IT HAS COME TO MANY YEARS TO COME TO TERMS WITH HIS UPBRINGING. >> I WASN'T EVEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT PROBABLY WELL INTO MY 30s. I WAS AFRAID TO HAVE ANYBODY KNOW WHO MY FATHER WAS. >> NOW 60 YEARS OLD, CALVIN IS MARRIED WITH TWO DAUGHTERS. HE WORKS AS A CONTRACTOR AND FOUNDED A RELIEF ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES AID TO ORPHANAGES IN THE FORMER SOVIET REPUBLIC OF GEORGIA. AND AFTER HIS FATHER'S DEATH, CALVIN BEGAN WHAT HE CALLS HIS HEALING PROCESS. >> THERAPY, COUNSELING, SPIRITUAL STUDIES. >> IT'S WHAT LED HIM TO WRITE A BOOK RECONCILING HIS PAST, TITLED "SINS OF MY FATHER." AND TO START TELLING HIS STORY TO SMALL GROUPS. >> I CAME CLOSE TO BEING A LIFELONG RACIST. I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I TOLD MY STORY PUBLICLY. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID ABOUT MY FANTASY OF SHOOTING BLACK PEOPLE IN D.C. AND WHEN I WATCHED A COUPLE OF BLACK PEOPLE WALK INTO THE AUDIENCE BEFORE I GAVE MY SPEECH, I WAS LIKE, OH, NO, I BETTER NOT SAY THIS. BUT I DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND SAY IT. AND IT WAS REMARKABLE TO ME THAT THOSE BLACK PEOPLE CAME UP TO ME AND EMBRACED ME AND SAID, THROUGH TEARS, THAT, WOW, YOUR STORY WAS SO POWERFUL AND IT REALLY HELPED ME. I WAS FULL OF AN ACCUMULATED RAGE THAT HAD BEEN BUILDING AND SUPPRESSED MY WHOLE LIFE. THERE IS HOPE THAT IS ENGENDERED BY A STORY LIKE THAT, THAT IF I COULD OVERCOME THAT HATRED AND THAT DEPRESSION AND THAT FEELING OF UNWORTHINESS, THEN MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE COULD TOO. >> PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. ONE OF THE KEYS TO THAT IS REALLY SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ADOPT A WHITE SUPREMACIST BELIEF OR IDEOLOGY AND JOIN A HATE GROUP. >> WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED AND WHO WANT TO STRIKE OUT. IF WE'RE MAKING SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY CAN MAKE IT IN THIS COUNTRY AND OTHERS NOT MAKE IT, THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PLANTING THE SEEDS FOR FUTURE TIMOTHY McVEIGHS TO DO THE KINDS OF THINGS WE SAW IN OKLAHOMA CITY. >> WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM OUR HESITANCY TO TALK ABOUT RACE AND TALK ABOUT OUR HISTORY. THERE'S NO SHORTCUT AROUND THAT. AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION. >> I REALLY DO HAVE HOPE THAT THIS IS AN EVOLUTION AND THAT SLOWLY AS A SPECIES THAT WE'RE EVOLVING AWAY FROM HATE AND TOWARD LOVE. BUT I SEE THIS AS A PRETTY MASSIVE SWING OF THE PENDULUM IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. AND I'M JUST VERY HOPEFUL THAT SOON THAT THE PENDULUM IS GOING TO SWING BACK IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
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Channel: ABC News
Views: 1,233,759
Rating: 4.4234762 out of 5
Keywords: p_cmsid=2494279, p_vid=news-73464825, Homegrown Hate, documentary, full, watch, ABC News, Linsey Davis, investigative, crime, race, racism, America, hate crimes, domestic terrorism, white supremacy, 2020, minority, ABC News Live
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Length: 54min 1sec (3241 seconds)
Published: Tue Oct 06 2020
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