Hollywood Cole Interview: Locking in With Boi-1da | Sampling 101 #080

Kobe didn't become Kobe without shooting a thousand jump shots you know so I just look at everything and just like practice man going to the studio even just download the samples studying other people on YouTube you know just staying in the gym and just being consistent ladies and gentlemen welcome back for another episode of The One More Time Podcast I'm your host playback band here with my co-host H3 AKA according to tick tock the White Ice Cube H3 who do we have in the hot seat today my friend welcoming in on episode 79 of the one more time podcast legendary singer-songwriter it's Jason Derulo Jason Derulo that's crazy have you ever gotten that never oh man it's the first time for everything I've never got that that's crazy yeah we have one of the hottest producers out right now he's on a freaking Rampage we got Hollywood Cole in the [ __ ] house hey man just out here you know trying to get to it I like that tag thank you thank you yeah you're absolutely getting to it I mean for those that aren't familiar he's brought you BB King Freestyle by Lil Wayne and Drake he's brought you Isaiah Rashad's headshots Meek Mill me j.i.d sis G herbo one more time Alum Suave Snoop Dogg core day I could go on for the whole episode but I'll I'll spare you go look up his credits you're on fire right now thank you like for sure usually if I have a producer on I might have to scroll a little bit to like see some recent placements or whatever I mean it is just it's it's loaded man I mean you are just like hit after hit it seems I mean with all this momentum how do you capitalize right now um what's the plan of attack right I mean I think it's just staying in the gym you know Kobe didn't become Kobe without shooting a thousand jump shots you know so I just look at everything and just like practice man go into the studio um even just downloaded samples uh studying other people on YouTube you know just staying in the gym and just being consistent um I think that's very important so and I'm and God bro I'm blessed you know like I I'm very blessed so I have a lot of good people in my corner but yeah just consistency and and yeah man it's kind of if something work and you know maybe don't change the formula right yeah yeah for sure it's been working do you feel like surprised as to how things are going now or did you always see this vision for yourself like you know I mean is it shocking to you where you where you've gotten no it was supposed to happen that's how I feel um I think this was supposed to happen for me and like I said I just uh very thankful and I'm in a very good position I'm very blessed um but it was supposed to happen man this was this was written you know I was supposed to be doing music you know what I mean so like I said I'm thankful and I'm trying to keep keep rocking it's crazy I feel like he has this Perfect Blend of like humble but yet like I'm born to do this [ __ ] mentality which I feel like in the Artistry and the producer just creative scene I feel like you do have to have that humility to not come across as some you know arrogant prick right but at the same time yeah yeah yeah he mentioned Kobe it's like he didn't just say that because he doesn't feel yeah I mean yeah you gotta I mean I'm I'm very laid back very humble for sure but it's just like man you gotta you gotta pop your [ __ ] a little bit sometimes you know so absolutely we're talking to Kobe of this producer [ __ ] yeah yeah not yet we're getting there though we're getting there I mean just to know that that's the that's the goal that's what we're working towards yeah yeah for sure so Rhythm roulette yes was filmed I'll let you speak on this yeah me and Shout Out Warren used to be war from the neighborhood shot a little episode of Rhythm roulette here well he they shot it with him I happened to be here and literally in this in this place yeah that's fine probably like seven or eight years ago okay that's dope yeah and so your episode with with Mass Appeal Rhythm roulette just dropped for those that aren't familiar quick summary of like the format of the show yep so basically um what they do is with producers they'll take you to a record store you'll be in La New York wherever you're at um and basically they blindfold you and when they blindfold you you just gotta kind of randomly pick records and you got to choose three records and then you got to go back to the studio and try to cook up some heat without knowing what you're grabbing just a great format so cool yep how did it feel going from assumingly watching that you know series to having your episode it was crazy it was crazy it was uh definitely one of my goals and I definitely achieved that goal and it was um it was just an experience you know like it was just a crazy experience to be like man like I remember watching like a cardiac rhythmulating like a cardo cardiacs is one of the best crazy um Ricardo uh cardiac um Boy Wonder just a lot of cats and just like for them to want to reach out and want to work with me was crazy you know had you already been sampling vinyl because for me and Laura it was like oh [ __ ] like Mass Appeal hit us up let's go find a record player and like learn how to yeah not I'm I'm honestly I'm I get it honestly man I'm a soul hip-hop cat um yeah to the course so like I came up on like dealer like Dylan's one of my favorite producers so yeah definitely I already have vinyl so I was I wasn't um wasn't a rookie to the finals at all you were a natural you were just born for that segment for sure did you hit them up being like yo I'm a huge like fan of the format and this is a goal of mine like you mentioned or did it did it come inbound um we had uh tried to hit some people a while ago but it kind of organically happened um they kind of just like reached out after we hit them like a long time ago but at the time it wasn't you know it wasn't time for that and then just kind of circled back in I got blessed to do one I mean they saw the motion they were like oh [ __ ] that DM we left him on on red like two years ago whatever probably should reply we appreciate you reaching out yeah it was dope for sure so he casually had reason I don't know if you even got to catch the episode yet but he casually had reason pull up oh my God for his episode shout out TD wow yeah oh my God and reason casually dropped the fact that you have like 60 of his upcoming albums we got jams do we have a release date for that album uh nah not yet could we get the exclusive you're like the name of it maybe okay it's not his project no for sure for sure we're always fishing yeah so what do you love most about reason because obviously you had a say in him pulling up clearly you guys have a good relationship what about reason um he's just he's a real rapper you know like I said I come from like the hip-hop [ __ ] like the tribe and and the in the dealer and um just hip-hop in general so like reason he's a he's a he's a real rapper and coming from from La man he's he's got he's got bars you know and he um he's next bro like out of that camp man that guy they got dochi they got a lot of great great artists but reason is reason is definitely dope man he's definitely one of the ones you know so how'd y'all and we just um we just have a good chemistry so we uh we first linked that was when this was around the time I want to say when I was going out to LA and I first met Zay I want to say and um I went to this camp that they did a couple years ago um and we had like a session one time and then like man from that session we just kind of like we just kick it like it would be more than just like being in the studio we go to like hookah spots and kick it and like go get some drinks and food and stuff like that so I'm real big on just like organic like relationships and you know just stuff like that because it makes for better music you know how slept on is the like let's actually get to know each other outside of the work environment which is the studio for you guys I feel like that's like still slept on so much nah I think that's I think that's the key man especially for me being um keeping my home base in Atlanta um and people think I live in LA so like for me it's just like man I try to nurture and curate those relationships and because I don't I don't live in LA so I can't just pull up on you like that you know so I just think it it goes for better music when I can just like okay Cole was a cool cat like we kicked got some tequila like he plays Call of Duty you know like all that type of stuff and we and we Vibe so with me not being in La it just makes for like better um it's a better better relationship I think all the best artists to produce her you know combos are all just super tight right yeah they're I mean they're always hanging out yeah outside of the studio and I know you're not gonna you're not gonna be able to build a relationship with everybody but certain people that are supposed to be in your life that will they'll be in your life you know so it's all good so for people that say sampling is easy what's your what's your rebuttal um sampling is not easy it's definitely not easy uh it's sometimes this is what I'll say I think with sampling um it takes a lot to really try to find a verse a hook a bridge and things like that and I mean like I was we were talking about earlier sometimes you can basically just Loop a sample you know you can kind of do that um sometimes you don't need to Loop a sample sometimes you need to flip it and chop it and reverse it and stuff like that but sampling is not it's not easy man it takes a it takes a certain kind of ear to be creative and um make it sure make it your sound you know like it takes a lot to find like a Led Zeppelin record and turn that into like a r b record you know or like turn that into like a A hip-hop type beat so um to answer your question no it's not it's definitely not not easy at all what's your experience though for you personally because I think you mentioned you do cook up from scratch from time to time obviously you're a big sampler but what's your creative experience like between the two would you say um I mean now I've been I've been blessed to be able to get like a lot of uh sample makers that are sending me like loops and stuff so um basically like samples but the royalty free yeah so that's that's been a blessing but um I I I've been getting back into like making beats from scratch like because I know how to play the keys a little bit like I know how to play some chords and stuff so just trying to get better at chords but um yes I've been trying to go 50 50. like 50 on actually sampling and using sample people that people that make samples and then 50 trying to you know make some stuff from scratch I like that I like that because there's something to be said about you know owning 100 of a beat but there's also something to be said about just not having any limits on your creativity yeah but I agree with that but collab collaboration is is a great thing you know for sure so I'm I'm not I'm not how many producers is too many on a beat I think like five and six that's a lot of that's a lot four is okay I kind of think three is like four maybe um yeah I mean it just depends like every it just depends it just depends it depends but I think that I think that five produces a lot for sure five producers a lot you know so how do you like to go about sampling like are you a big I'm going to the record store and splurging are you uh you already have something like you know I'm trying to walk through because I've never of course sampled anything and then you know made a beat out of it right so like what is it for those that have never done that either yeah walk them through kind of like what is that process like yeah I mean you could it's I mean we have access to a lot of different um mediums so it's just like you can go to the record store you can go to criminal records and pick up some records you could pick up a James Brown and a uh I don't know Anita Baker record but you can also just go on YouTube you know so yeah it kind of just depends man I have I have I've been I've been starting to collect vinyls Canon uh when I used to intern I remember Canon told me man he was like man you need to start getting into like collecting vinyl so ever since he told me that this was like this was yeah a couple years ago when I was interning but um yeah I started collecting vinyls and got it right you were interning just a couple of years ago that's when that was yeah so I I well I interned I started internally when I when I moved to Atlanta I moved to Atlanta in 2016 the spring summer of 2016. I started interning that summer yep bro you're going crazy for like being in the scene such a short period of time holy [ __ ] I I for some reason thought that it was a lot longer like a span since you had moved here it's been like what like was that like five years five six years six years yeah I mean I don't know it's not that much intern for like two two of them so yeah two and a half or something like that yeah so do you have something in mind though when you want to sample are you like I need to find this this is defense right yeah it just depends it depends on how I'm feeling like sometimes I may be like man I need to I need to sample some [ __ ] like for real so it just it kind of depends on how I'm feeling that day or sometimes you hear something in the wild and you're like and you gotta remember that for later you hear something like oh my God I gotta sample that yeah I'm sorry does that happen a lot where you're just like living your life and yeah we'll hear some [ __ ] you know what it was I was just in La um this was I just got back from LA on Sunday and uh I was at this Lebanese restaurant and they were playing some [ __ ] already this is amazing they were playing the music is so fire at like Lebanese like hookah lounges and I was like dog what is this some different scales and [ __ ] we've got the Shazam out and I was like this is crazy I haven't I haven't uh downloaded the sample yet to mess with it but yeah that's the last thing I just Shazam was I was in LA that's Lebanese restaurant yep I wonder if that's in like a phrygian scale It's gotta be in some kind of oh yeah probably yeah probably yeah everyone's like what the [ __ ] is shout out to everyone knows so like you know when you do decide to use that Lebanese restaurant sample right you load it up then what happens right like because you said you could just Loop it so you know how do you know how to build around that [ __ ] I think it just comes from just making making beats you know like it just comes from just working and um understanding like you're kind of processing how you like see samples and stuff like that you know creative Instinct yeah um the Spidey senses your producers you know so it just kind of depends it kind of depends on how you wanna how you want to approach it you know so yeah how much does sampling complicate your business it can complicate the business a lot but I'm such I'm such just a fan of just the art um I I try not to like even think about now I'll say this I'm just I'm such a fan of the art I want to just like create the music you know but um I remember Boy Wonder told me that too he was like man like just create but it gets tricky with the business I'm not gonna lie like one time I took a uh I took a hit you know but how so can you share any details or is it it was well it was a record that came out um that I did it was a it was a it was a record that I did with the artist and um we tried to get somebody to replay the sample um oh I was doing that today we tried to get somebody to replay the sample but at the end of the day man it just didn't feel the same you know so it's just like me and that artist were just like man you know it's all good man we just we're just it's not even uh we're just like we just we just want the people to hear the music you know and they wind up being um why not be in the gym that people people really of course yeah you know so all right I need to know what song we're talking about it's all good yeah yeah all good all good damn and then and then the original the copyright owner came back and took 90 or something like that yes yeah it gets crazy classic but you know it's all good man you know so boy Wanda said don't do this [ __ ] Cole and you were just like sorry Wanda no he said to do it he said he said you don't think about it oh he was saying okay I thought he was saying just create as in like just make your own [ __ ] stops what you feel because you like it's almost like you're stunning yourself you limit yourself like you're just like okay like you may come across that Lebanese Sam would be like man I'm not even trying to can I curse it okay but yeah he was um it's just like you don't wanna uh like if you you kind of stunning yourself if you just think about damn like that's not gonna get clear you know just create just create the art you know so yeah so Wanda has been pretty instrumental in I'd say you getting records like at least a few of your biggest I feel like also had Wanda involved how did y'all connect yeah First Connect um we connected through social media um shout out the internet right one time yeah shout out to uh but I had my AOL like my AOL account when I was a kid was it was it was called cyber Gizmo 678. kids movie villain then I trans then I transitioned to Nike Air boy Nike Air I was also UNC baller Ben 22 because I'm a big is so cringy yeah but um but yeah man we connected uh via the via the internet via Instagram um how did he find you so you assumed that he found him I mean I assume Boy Wonder gets a lot of cold DMS from like other producers I don't know did you just shoot your shot so what happened it's funny because I was talking to uh my boy Kim about this but what what what happened was me and childish major shout out my boy childish yes shout out childish we uh we created a song called wife you and we did that I was like maybe two years ago I want to say um but it came out in February that February of that year I want to say it was like I'm drawing a blade but I believe it was like 2020 if I'm if I'm not mistaken right before the Pandy I believe yeah yeah if I'm not mistaken yep yeah so uh we did that we dropped that song and um a couple months later he had like randomly like followed me like just randomly and um that's such a nice random follow yeah you're like did he click something wrong when he did that randomly yeah yeah but I know he was like he he was following childish you know so I was like okay maybe follow me from childish whatever yeah so anyway um fast forward a couple months and uh you know when he followed me I didn't like hit him up and be like yo I got beats for Drake and you know what I'm saying I just kind of let it just be I didn't want to like you know that's some self-control I would totally do that I was like I didn't want to do that so fast forward my birthday uh is in April so around April um I went live and basically prior to that like my pops he was on me he was like man you need to like go live and just during the pandemic he's like man just show people like your process of cooking up your pops is telling you this yes sir your pops is a [ __ ] baller shout out the social media the manager he gets it that's my guy dad that's my guy my pop my I come from a from a super uh creative and just I come from good stock I come from a super creative and just a lit family so yeah I mean that's just amazing advice holy [ __ ] yeah Pops Pops shout out to Pops um but uh but yeah so so so yeah so basically he was on he was like man you need to show your process you know throughout the pandemic so I was doing that and then fast forward to my birthday in April I went live I think this was like I don't know like a day or two or a couple days before my birthday I went live and wonder had hopped in the live you know so I was just like damn like this is crazy you know and I'm cooking up so after the live um he DM me and he was just like man like [ __ ] just [ __ ] and he was just like yo like um send me some [ __ ] and I was just like damn it's like dog this is Boy Wonder like this is a legend you know like he's he's one of the ones yes um so it took me all day because I was just in my head thinking about like damn what should I send boy wonder what should I send you want beats or Loops or whatever no he's fully beats yeah like I was just like he was like send me some [ __ ] like you know I'm like damn it's a drake you know Drake's main producer you know what I mean so it was I didn't know what to send so I kind of was in my head all day and I finally sent them some [ __ ] but yeah that's how we connected we connected via social media and then fast forward bro was your hand like shaking when you clicked the send button no I wasn't shaking no no no I wasn't shaking it was a cucumber I'm getting nervous just like thinking about putting a pack together for one nah but it was def I was definitely like I just over I was overthinking because I did that live like early during the day I didn't send that man beats till about like nine o'clock at night you know what I mean so yeah it took a full day of like yeah critical thinking around like what am I sending one to yeah man but something to be said though about making content that actually shows your process and how valuable and being on live and showing how you do things can be like a big thing of how people pursue yeah yeah it helps like I remember man I was doing like I was like in my archives on my Instagram like I was making videos all the time and just like showing my process of sampling and just making beats from scratch so that definitely um definitely helped with like my following too um and stuff like that but um well and just like everyone thinks maybe to get to Wanda you have to have a drake record or something you had a childish major record which I [ __ ] with childish heavy he's definitely got a solid he's not Drake so like working with people that are also just surrounded and like in those other circles even if they're not the you know like Top Dog in that group or something like you could be noticed by someone like a wonder I mean that that's huge networking laterally yeah like because childish was way more of like potentially a peer of yours obviously than a drake for instance you know and Shout out my boy uh Quinn Miller too because him and boy wonder have a um they have a good relationship too you know so it was kind of like a mix of childish and like uh my boy qm just from like qm sending them sending Boy Wonder [ __ ] that me and me and him were doing you know I feel like qm is like responsible for so many people are having great opportunities that's my guy that's my guy real super solid dude man that's my guy that's amazing you know Mac as well yeah we just we just uh we were in LA with me and my boy will in school we threw a party in the boy showed up and we had a we had a great time in LA yeah so the biggest sample clearance budget can you share like how much the label had to pay to clear one of your samples is that like NDA I don't know yeah I can't do that damn five figures six figures I feel like 10 grand is like a floor like it starts it gets expensive sometimes yeah I don't know all right I was trying to get it out of you that's fine all right so you mentioned J dilla your Holy Trinity of producers from what I saw we got Dilla you said in another interview or something yay and the Neptunes is that still yeah those are those are uh how we feeling about yay right now no you Slender Man but that's yeah I just said how are you feeling about you yeah yeah you could have pumped him up no yeah yeah yeah he's um yeah Kanye is definitely a legend you know you can't you can't can't take that away yeah you can't take away his music man you know um I think he's a he's a a different type of cat different individual you know um but um I think he makes it like in the recent in the recent stuff he's been making like a lot of he'll say some good things and he'll say some you know some kind of you know some head scratches too so you know a couple of heads or scratches yeah yeah that's a very he's very politically correct you know so so but but you're scratching my head at a few things recently appreciate it but he's a legend but but there's still those three kind of taking the top three yeah top three spots right now yeah yeah okay so like what about each of them you know what I mean made them make the the Holy Trinity for you yeah I mean I think to start with Dilla I mean dilla's impact just on like hip-hop culture um you know he's he was able to just influence jazz players he was able to influence singers all just offer like the way he makes Beats from it just he just his his Beats have such a feeling you know um I still remember the first time I heard Dilla yeah like I was just like holy [ __ ] yeah like what is this yeah bro and he was behind like the the greatest uh from D'Angelo to Erykah Badu to Tribe Called Quest you know so it's just like and like people still talk about him so Dylan's like one of the he's the Godfather of so like impact wise that's yeah it's just undeniable and I mean just the way he chopped samples too like his chop game was crazy yes you know like addressed them and he was all on the on the MP MP going crazy you know so Dilla um that's why I really like like Dilla um how about Neptune Neptune's I would say just because they just had like a they had a crazy futuristic sound you know like a lot of their drum sounds really consistent and different than yeah and well the thing is with them is just like none of their beats like sound the same at all you know they were very very uh very very different and I just I just remember like when I think of the Neptunes I just remember being a kid and just remember like it's like muscle memory like I remember hearing like you don't have to call or like the Jay-Z record uh uh that that I can't remember the name right now but um uh gushy stuff I can't think of the title but yeah but just like I just remember being a kid and just like just remembering the sounds you know like the certain sounds and I was just like damn as a kid I wasn't even thinking about making beats but I just remember that [ __ ] really like stuck out to me they had such like a just a futuristic like crazy sound you know what I mean so so sound selection yeah crazy um and their ability to work with so many different types of artists Britney Spears yeah yeah because I feel like Ludacris to Raven Rock rock artists you know like then they had their whole band nerd which is come on man yeah come on yeah what are you talking about and I feel like that's that's the like biggest parallel I draw between your three I mean Dilla of course on the sampling tip but like the way you've been able to like I mean you guys heard the [ __ ] list I rattled off at the beginning I mean none of those artists are that I mean you know like they're very different artists yeah and I feel like if it wasn't for the tag sometimes like I feel feel like you have a I mean let me ask you this do you feel like you have a sound I don't think so yeah I don't think so either because like I said the diversity and like just the ability to work with such different types of artists and help them bring out the best in their Artistry which is what I think the Neptunes did yeah and that's the thing man as a producer I feel like you just have to be a mayor for the artist and just like really level them up you know like still give them them but you gotta level them up you have to I I have to give you the best canvas to to for you to paint on you know so it's just like that's very important like because I know you're probably gonna use watercolors and paint brushes so I need to give you a nice palette I think it needs to be a little bit what they're used to and then a little something fresh oh yeah you want to go too far either way but still like I said it's really just like leveling them up like you know not going too too far too too far left you know so is there ever like tension but like good tension between you and the artist like in the sense of pushing them and maybe it makes them feel a little uncomfortable or I think how does that work yeah I think um my boy that I work with super super close will Hill I think me and him we have uh we Spar we have good tension um and we trust each other we have a chemistry so um I may tell them to like do this and like he may not do that but then he's like you know like he'll [ __ ] with that [ __ ] so um it's like it's evaluing each other's like creative opinions right it's just trust and chemistry yeah it's just trust at the end of the day this is trust so yeah all right so then yay okay so yay you know what are we drawing from yay I mean yay is just I mean he came with he kind of he he just came with the different kind of sped up samples than like Dilla because he he's a he's a child of Dilla you know it's like Dillards were slower a lot of times right no no Dylan's worst slower that's what I'm saying like Kanye like came with the crazy sped up samples yeah he just was he was just everywhere you know like he was everywhere yeah like Through the Wire you know comes to mind obviously with that classic like sped up I feel like a lot of yay's Beats too were set up where like he's setting you up for like the hooks already like that like the way the samples are placed he I think had a bigger vision of the how the entire song was gonna be yeah was making the beat yeah more than anyone yeah for sure 100 that's how um that's how Pharrell with Pharrell is too though yeah Pharrell was like I watched a lot of interviews on for real for like always he had the music video he had the hook the bridge like you know so the whole world is carrying Legends yeah do you operate that way I've been getting into like songwriting more um like top lining Top Line and there's like Melodies and stuff Melodies and like flows and stuff I'm really good with that because I make beats so I know how like people should sound on them um I get that honestly but I'm trying to get better at my words so I'm getting better like songwriting than just like tapping into that more do the producers at the highest level almost automatically have a lot of influence on on Top Line stuff or not even I think it just depends it just depends on the artist yeah I think it just I didn't know if it was like almost table Stakes that like if you're at the highest level you're basically writing you know hooks or Top Line as well I think it's just Case by case Okay a lot of them have some of the best songwriters in the world right there in the studio with them to do that so yeah have you found yourself building out like writers that you work with regularly so I just I just kind of um got into working with writers more how's that going it's cool riders make the hits you know yeah Riders make the hits so I've been trying to get into working with writers more um is there one recently that's already been out that you can speak on where that that happened or still kind of new no not yet okay really okay yeah we're no all right we're gonna be on the lookout so you mentioned Will hill so plug will Hill who is Will hill because I know he's very near and dear yeah yeah Will hill is a super super talented cat um he's based in Atlanta we've dropped about three projects in the last year and a half I want to say almost two years um is that executive production yeah that's me on all the Beats um and will he's he's he's he's dope bro like it's like He's Got Roots in the west coast like I'm originally from the West Coast born in Seattle um the whole family of my pops and my mom they're from the West Coast Pops from the bay I'm from Seattle but um will has roots on the west coast um so and he's laid back and we just kind of like we had a chemistry like when we first met and just to talk about like his music is like his sound is like think like uh I'm not gonna try to compare him but like think of just like Smooth currencies the early big crits the early whizzes the Larry Jones but think about that coming from Atlanta and when you think about Atlanta Atlanta is a very trap heavy area you know so it's just like man we're coming with like a a different sound a West Coast sound a laid back it's like picnic music shout out to our Branch our Branch said he calls our music picnic music you know it's like it's laid back you know you can you can you can kick it to it so yeah whatever Al says I believe yeah that's that's the that's the um the OG yeah I went to uh the culture lab you know where where bpg's offices are and Rory and Maul were doing a podcast you know new Rory them all and we did some like q a and he was hilarious like interacting with with Rory and Maul because they know each other from you know back in the day or whatever like the hard questions and stuff or just they were just talking about epic like Def Jam stories of like back when Kanye was coming in and playing music and [ __ ] like basically like talking from real life perspective on the [ __ ] you saw in like the genius document yeah it was just I was sitting there like fanboying out just like hearing the conversations you know yeah it was super dope so obviously will Hill is like someone that you're trying to once again yeah level up you're trying to break an artist right whereas you've clearly gotten a lot of placements with major label artists you know people that already have like let's say more established careers what's more important to you would you say like breaking yeah breaking the artist for sure breaking artists it's dope man it's a blessing to be able to work with these artists that I already know but it's a it's about like working with the cats that aren't known you know because it's just like man respectfully like the Kendricks and all the big dogs you know like they're gonna eventually Fade Out so just like who are the next cats you know yeah so it's just like man you gotta um you don't become a superstar producer and a huge producer until you are able to break an artist you know so yeah it's in the midst of me getting placements and I'm thankful for that it's just like man we got I gotta gotta break people too you know so what is the what is the relationship like with a will versus you know how you're with other artists like yeah like yeah I mean I mean with that level level of comfort well I mean yes it's it's a comfortability too I mean me and we both live in Atlanta so like I see we see each other like a lot we know we just went out to LA together um as a like a joint trip that we did together so it's just like that's like my brother like just like I'm kicking with like my homie this my God Deshawn and my boy Nas like we all just kick it all the time you know so it's just like that just goes it's just chemistry yeah so one more time alumni yeah exactly one more time did you know him from Seattle nah so I didn't I didn't DeSean grew he was born in he was born and raised in Seattle I wasn't raised in Seattle okay yeah you moved around yeah I was born there my pops had us all over he um my dad worked for Converse at the time so um after after I was born I lived in Seattle until I was about like in kindergarten and then we moved to Boston and my pops was working at Converse lived in Boston for a couple years um probably for like eight I want to say like eight eight or nine years I want to say maybe eight and then we moved to Virginia so like the rest of like middle school high school college was all uh Virginia so that's why I pretty much grew up but I'm coaching man I look at myself as like gumbo yeah a little bit yeah how do you feel like that influences the the production music I think it helps me a lot like I get it honestly because I'm originally from the West Coast my pops is from the bay my mom is from Seattle so as far as West Coast music that's just natural for me because I was born out there and my family is like that's where they're from were they playing that when you were a kid too yeah for sure my pops paid like Tupac they pay I was exposed to a lot of a lot of different music like Hootie and the Blowfish just a lot of different schools you know but um but yeah West Coast Roots honestly and then also living in the East Coast you know Boston which is close to like New York which is you know was more it was a hardcore sound you know what I mean so knowing about like the um the mob deeps and like the uh Eric B and rakims you know like more of the or the hardcore hip-hop but also when I moved to the South to Virginia it was like I got the South South elements too like the trunk rattling and just like the southern Twang and you know so I think I get it I get it um I'm culture you know I get it honestly so that [ __ ] just the the regionality side of hip-hop specifically I mean music too but hip-hop specifically exactly like hip-hop I mean that [ __ ] just fascinates me man yeah like how different but yet you can like tie certain elements together yeah and if people did move you can hear this side of them from this region and then like oh but then he's got the you know even with you know even with like Willow you're talking about how like he's got the laid back chill kind of West Coast influence but then he's like a little bit more trapped maybe from the Atlanta side of things I just think that [ __ ] so yeah man it's funny when you listen to beats you know I'll catch myself being like oh that's cool like Memphis speed or like oh nice Houston beat you know they're like oh that's kind of old school New York kind of feel yeah yeah I'm always breaking it down by region you know yeah yeah so with will I want to keep talking about this because I think it's fascinating right like the whole breaking and artist thing I mean how is it going like are you guys just making as much music as possible then you listen to it are you going in with a project in mind and making music for that like how's the process yes going last year man I challenged him to make like a hundred songs um and he made about like 70 songs 60 songs so um right now we're kind of just um we're gearing up for it because me and him haven't dropped our own our latest project like just our Wheel Hollywood code project it's been it's been a little while so next year we're definitely gonna do that but right now we're kind of just in hibernation mode I think he's gonna drop something um soon um not fully produced by me I think he's just gonna drop uh he's just been dropping you know so I think he's gonna drop something soon I want to say I got a couple on there but the next Hollywood code will Hill project will come out fully produced my by me will come out next year so we're just in hibernation mode man we're just kind of cooking up still working on music still working on our uh our own stuff um and yeah just cooking but do you like you know say like Aunt like let's do better or is it just let's make as much as we can and then we'll sit down and you know kind of comb through it all or like what's the yeah so recently what we did like a couple months ago he came to my crib and we made like we made like five crazy references right so what I told him I was like man that's what I learned from Canon because this is what Canon told Jack it was just like man like just focus if you make 10 songs don't make another 10 just focus on those 10 songs really make those the best songs you can make so I remember Ken and told me that that's what they did with Jack and I was like I told will that I was like you know what for our next project bro when we did those five references like these references are crazy let's just focus on these references let's make these the best songs like let's just focus on this one song this week let's go from the ad-libs to the concept to I don't know the bridge let's just focus on that so like just being more um uh for like about just being more intentional with the with with with with the music less add no but bro I [ __ ] love this this is how I like once again I'm the non-creative so sometimes my opinions get a little bit like oh you never [ __ ] made music like shut the [ __ ] up but I'll say it like the fact that people just make songs and then like thank either it's done perfectly or it's not being put out that's so [ __ ] stupid to me like I can't even imagine like why would you not listen to it and be like oh that bar is dumb let's rewrite the hook to be this or hey it's missing this or even you on the production yeah let's rework the beat like let's try a new sample actually let's slow it down and re-record it let's whatever the [ __ ] to make it better but like if you got it off and there was at least something to it once again I know every song maybe you don't want to just like stick with but if you have like an okay feeling about it and you I think like giving it that chance to like reach its fullest potential man I mean I'm like a huge fan of that approach like that made me so happy hearing that because that [ __ ] that I say but I don't have an actual basis for knowing if that's like you know good or people to even do that makes so much sense like when the vocals are laid down to me that's when like the fun begins like how does the beat react to the vocals a more intertwined with each other you know how can we make this sound more like a song instead of just these lyrics on top of this beat yeah this time around we're just we're doing way more like post-production yeah you know just way more post-production than um really making it sound like a real good solid body of work for next year so but it also probably includes some like will re-recording some [ __ ] potentially yeah 100 so like that's what I mean it's like it's one thing where like the artist does the vocals and then you guys as the producers and or mixers right like get in and make this this whole like thing but I'm even saying like there's no chance that that was I mean not no chance sometimes it might be your best take the first take absolutely uh you know creativity and like execution exactly yep yeah but like for me the odds that like you shouldn't re-record some things like that sounds like I know so many artists that just don't that think that that's like blasphemy of like I can't re I can't get back into get back in the that's what's happening yeah that's that demoitis man but yeah yeah it's tough but you know we get through it yeah and I feel like once again everything is individual case basis right where it's like sometimes maybe that does actually like [ __ ] it up more where it's like you should have just left it's easy to go too far you know yeah for sure so obviously you mentioned you know learning some [ __ ] from Canon and where was Jack Harlow in his career when you started interning there so I was there uh before Jack was even assigned to generation now um when I was interning for for main streets and for Generation now and those guys I was around when like this was like after uh love is Rage is one and this one like Uzi was doing tapes with uh like a Gucci Mane tape and uh collab tape but yeah I was around there early early Uzi not before love is Rage but you know a little bit after that then I was there you know when he dropped Lover's rage two um but that's when like cardi was kind of first getting crazy and Pierre was pulling up on them and stuff like that but um when I was there Jack wasn't there Jack wasn't he wasn't there just yet and then when I was there this one Jack was um yeah he was fresh like I was this was maybe like my last year I want to say of interning but that's when I first met Jack I met Jack when he uh he dropped his first project or not even yet no I was in there when he was working on it like all that type of stuff like gazebo and like Dark Knight like all that early stuff so I was there then and um yeah Jack was just you know he was he was in there he was cooking he was uh working trying to get better at his craft so what did you learn from because honestly they were trying to break Jack similarly to maybe how you're treating the relationship with Will so like are you drawing any are you looking back at those times being like Oh the way that they were working with Jack like maybe we could apply some of that like game did you learn something on like that side of things yeah just just being consistent and locking it in the studio and um putting out music you know you gotta you gotta build a um you have to build a community you know um artists are Brands you know so I feel like Jack has built his brand 100 and that drama Cannon those guys uh those guys are legends and lake and you know those guys make they make they make Superstars so you know they know what they're doing and Jack was consistent he was in the studio working all the time and you know cranking out joints by the way can I shout out drama for his insane run this year yeah John's going holy [ __ ] bringing back the uh prolific gangster girls yes with everyone yes sir it's going stupid I'm not here for it the legend absolutely are there a few more we can do you know if there's gonna be more this year um have you heard you I think there's a couple anything in the rumor mill maybe maybe soon maybe next she's trying to get colder like yeah gossip yeah um Okay so you got one on come home the kids miss you Jack's latest project yep what's it been like to see the trajectory because you saw it like early on man like has that been pretty wild to see like where he's gotten it's just experience you know it just it just goes to show you never know who's next you know that you're standing around so it's just like but they knew man they they saw something in Jack and Jack is dope you know but be honest did you see it um and you know it's the snow shade to Jack but like back then when you first saw him coming in did you think that it was going to turn into what it's you know what it's become it's optimistic yeah um optimistic so you know I feel like I said those those guys are legends so you know they they know how to um they know what they're doing and I was optimistic you know yeah yeah there is something to be said for you know a team that has a proven track record of breaking artists like they were in he was in arguably the one of the best hands he could be in yeah for you know launching a career and Jack could he he could rap even like even in even back then you know like Dark Knight was like his flow on that was crazy you know so um I haven't even peeped like old Jack I'm gonna be completely yeah keep it a buck right here I don't even want to know I don't even want to pretend like I've heard it there's not even like a lot really yeah to dive in it's like probably like two or three yeah um that's wild mixtapes yeah that's wild so so you also intern for Aaron Reed I did so I want to tell you a funny story about Aaron Reed I went to his sweet 16 birthday that was the one it was supposed to be I think yeah it was bro no one ever sent me oh this was in Atlanta are you sure I swear I went to it I went to it I got Aaron let's hit him up about it no it was it was it was on uh hit him up about it and ask if he had an Atlanta one maybe like before that didn't make it might have maybe the Atlanta one didn't make it was the reshoot exactly it was in New York no I definitely went to man that was years ago yeah but he was definitely aired though it definitely aired I just can't I just don't I don't remember if it was in New York all right well if you have that like if that's out there and it was Atlanta can you get that for me can you get like the link to like wherever it is called the internet man yeah yeah YouTube Aaron Aaron Reed sweet 16 but yeah I thought that was hilarious I was like oh my God because I I like followed his you know his journey as a producer like recently I was like holy [ __ ] like my friends were because you know I was so far removed from him but he just it was a huge thing so like I just knew a friend that knew a friend I think that knew you know whatever it was like three times removed yeah but man I thought that was so funny that's a good dude right there um okay so um what's coming up for you so obviously you mentioned like you know you're excited about the will Hill stuff but like anything else that you're allowed to talk about that's maybe already been announced or like you know anything of your most I guess pumped about for the rest of this year we're coming into the end of 2022. yeah um I got a heater coming out uh top of the year I don't want to say with with who yet but um just trying to just you know stay cooking still man I you know I just I try to be low-key and like you know with my stuff man try not to like because you don't want to speak about a placement and then it not come out you know has that happened before um not because I want well he doesn't speak yeah I just try to just not you know because we've had someone that's happened well yeah I think it was tane Runo who was supposed to have a Justin Bieber placement oh yeah and he was like I'm [ __ ] out of here and then it ends up getting leaked but then never officially comes out so he does have a Justin Bieber song it's like SoundCloud only or something yeah or you can find it on YouTube yeah like no it didn't get leaked by Bieber like a fan somehow like leaked it or something like hacker I don't know some crazy [ __ ] whatever yeah I got him back in like beavers like Heyday of like [ __ ] upness yeah I got some uh that's funny you said Justin Bieber I've got some uh some got some thieves I got some I got I'm just I'm just speaking in general um I got some some stuff out hopefully hopefully it comes out you know so don't pull a tane Rooney yeah you don't think you're super I mean you're already out of here I'm not saying anything I'm just saying it's just funny you guys had mentioned Justin Bieber I've got some some stuff in the works with just a couple different artists so okay you know we'll see we'll see what happens hopefully all that stuff comes out so I hope too because yeah the way that tayne was describing the story was so like sad and depressing because he was like yo I'm [ __ ] out of here get this bee replacement and he was like that [ __ ] sucks but and then and then none but yeah so you got you got some more heaters that you're excited about that's that's dope um but yeah anything else I just I mean it's fourth quarter now man it's the end of the year so um the industry is pretty much about to shut down in a couple weeks so yeah why does that have that holidays you know yeah but like industry specifically just like movies I mean because music industry is always running you know it's like out of what 10 months is always you know it's always on go so it's just like okay we it's cool to get two months to just relax and you know unplug and be with your family and you know all that type of stuff so um yeah like I said it's fourth quarter right now bro so I'm kind of really just creating you know just working on end of the year music and just kind of gearing up for uh next year and just trying to go even even crazier next year what about outside of the industry you got like a bowling league you're put you're piped up about or anything like that nah nah I know bowling league I just you know you know I just got back into golfing though oh yeah oh my God yeah yo y'all need to hit the links Henry is like an average girl yeah I just got back in the golfing man did you just get back in when you turned 30 uh no because that's what I did I just put his age on black I'm sorry [Music] it's all good I played golf for my high school and then I turned 20 and I didn't play for 10 years I skipped my 20s why'd you stop I don't know I don't know see I played as why did you pick it up so my my pops he's my popsy he's really good at golf he's he's really good but um and social media yeah and a lot of a lot of other things shout out my mother to my mother is a um she's an amazing painter she was they featured on like Essence magazine and we used to go to uh esses Music Festival as a kid and my mom is just I just come from a creative family you know um but yeah I'm sorry but to answer your question yeah my pops he uh he was a he's a golfer um and he introduced me to when I was younger so when I was younger I played it a little bit um but I was such I was into like football like I really played football as a kid so like I really like football and basketball um and I didn't really like stay with golf but now it's just like man I wish I would have kept playing golf I played baseball too but um yeah I just recent in these recent years man I've been trying to get back into it so my pops gave me some good clubs I just got a bag a bag and I've been hitting the driving range you know over the past couple weeks so I play with my pops Maybe couple weeks ago I went to um we played like a little nine hole so I'm just trying to I'm trying to you know just get get better at at sport the beautiful thing is if you you know you get a group of friends you could play with you could do this [ __ ] until you're like 70 80 right and the thing about the playing golf too man it's just like that's a businessman sport you know a lot of deals get closed on the golf course so you know plus it's just good for networking like you may meet a cat who like he might be the owner of some podcast but he's about to lose it he wants one one more you know he wants y'all [ __ ] you know what I mean so not to mention the acceptable drinking and driving facts and you get to smoke some sticks too smell straight cigars you know so I definitely I definitely like smoking cigars for sure I feel like he's got the perfect like calm cool collected demeanor for golf you know there's like very few I actually I don't know maybe some of like more like popular ones are like fired up like intense people but I'm not John Daly for sure I feel like golf takes like a very like like you know calm guy right because I mean it's [ __ ] frustrating man so like it's you versus the elements yeah yeah it's fun though man and it's just fun being out on the course like you know just being out there with nature it's my favorite feeling yeah man it feels good to be out there too so it's so long so many hours yeah you're playing like two hours okay yeah yeah I'm just a basketball guy man I I need like I need like quick fast-paced we'll see where you're at in five years ten years no I know seriously my body's already like feeling like it's giving up on me every time I play pickup future golfer right here but yeah no I do want to ask this and you know feel free not to answer but it's fine so there were some people that we know in your comment section when you were rocking the Prada bucket hat saying like bro this guy's out of here bro he's got a Prada bucket hat on bro let's do this this dude is [ __ ] Rich bro nah nah not yet man we we no no no have you gotten that big Pub bag yet uh yeah I got a nice Pub okay listen what was the what was the first what was the first purchase or investment or that I mean you know well I definitely have a uh I mean that's our account um but um I mean that product bucket hat probably set you back a few months Prada the product was nice um but I I uh I got I got a nice car a good good car okay it was the car for myself yeah okay for sure other than that man try to um yeah we saw the Phantom parked outside yeah yeah it's crazy right crazy yeah crazy crazy yeah just put the new rims on it yeah yeah yeah it's electric too it's electric crazy I just saw an electric uh Mustang and it was actually fire it was literally yeah like my family friend pulled up to my parents house I was visiting with with my son and this Ford Mustang electric vehicle yeah that's apparently like their new thing that's far yeah facts absolutely for sure well Cole we've entered a final segment of the podcast my friend H3 take us away Hollywood coal what's the word the word is the rapid fire Rampage where is the rapid fire Rampage let's get it let's get it it's gonna be a three-part Rampage I'll explain them as we go I'm just starting off with some short answer questions are you buckled up I'm ready okay it gets pretty intense all right come on I'm ready you can instantly become an expert at any instrument that you choose what do you choose piano what is your number one piece of advice for people just starting off making beats study that goes for so many things but continue just like [ __ ] learn about yeah you're trying to really got to study man you got to study study the great you got to try to mimic their beats because that's how you get better for sure so study you can have dinner with one professional athlete One Professional musician and one professional actor who are they dead or alive no actually there was no information given okay I usually do include that let's let's go let's go oh so one athlete I would probably LeBron uh one actor would be Will Smith and what was the last one musician it's Quincy Jones fire dinner crazy Cole if you were an app where would you be like a phone app mobile app yeah we'll go to mobile if I was a app what would I be oh man hold on hold on so hold on wait wait wait this is the app that's already I have to come up with a new application there's no further no further information man okay if I was an app what app would I be I would be Maps because you got to know where you're going damn that's a bar I thought it was going with Shazam for sure yeah that too but because you still got to know you're going to get to the music and then you get to music then you know so you gotta you got metaphorical Maps the metaphor bro don't sleep on this guy's timeline no wonder he's getting his songwriter back okay but if you were an emoji which Emoji would you be I would be the emoji with the with the glasses on okay I'm gonna give you two I'll be the Emoji with like the nerd with the knob with my teeth with the shades on yeah with the nerd glasses with the shades on or uh no I'll go with that that's cool okay confidence this next one is a philosophical question okay and I really want to understand your answer to this because it's it's the Hot Topic on a lot of people's minds okay is water wet yeah water's wet it's interesting it's pretty split on that one he seemed disgusted at you for asking you'd be surprised some of those answers anyway if you could party with any fictional character who would it be like a party with any fiction or character I would party with my boys from The Sandlot the movie which one so many great characters hilarious I probably was uh ham oh ham yeah but like grown up right you're not getting like no we would chill with ticket shots just think about them growing up like them as kids but like growing up perfect like squinting him come on that's a ball yeah you know what I mean love saying a lot classic that's what like one of my favorite movies too man classic I'm gonna go watch that tonight classic Cole you must get rid of three states which states do you get rid of um States I would get rid of probably like South Dakota going on maybe like North Dakota gone yeah [ __ ] you Dakotas maybe like Wisconsin the Midwest just took a hit yeah but it will be fine it's America will be fine you're not you're not from them not from there no oh okay okay he's from Wisconsin I'm just I'm saying yeah America will be fine without those states he does strike me as like a Wisconsin you know what I mean Wisconsin it's corn fed boy yeah Wisconsin we've been eating a lot of corn Henry moving on call how many chickens would fit in a three-car garage how many chickens would probably fit like 500 chickens sounds reasonable last one of the short answer what is your favorite curse word probably sheet part one part one great [ __ ] is very versatile [ __ ] is underrated yeah [ __ ] the 500 chickens in the in the three-car garage was quick and seems reasonable calculated yeah yeah I might go six or seven if you like Pac-Man anyway moving on to this or that and give you two choices I'm gonna pick one here we go Drake or Wayne quantized or unquantized unquantized pop or r b r b drums or Melodies drums drums or flats Flats robots or aliens robots chicken nuggets or hot dogs chicken nuggets only be able to listen to your 10 favorite albums for the rest of your life or never listen to your favorite 10 albums ever again 10 albums keep in your faves yeah never cut any hair again or give up showers but baths are acceptable wait what yeah wait what say it again never cut any hair again anywhere never cut any of my hair just wolf man just wolf right all the way wolf man okay or or you can you have to give up showers but you may still take baths you should like give up yourself yeah can I do the Rampage all right I'm just saying listening terrible terrible the test questions we see how they do I adjust okay let's get rid of that one the method to this so let's mix that one from the next one mildly allergic to dust or aggressively allergic to pollen oh I would probably be mildly allergic to this ride a fast scooter or a slow car fast scooter and finally get a faced hat of a poodle or God there can't be anything I don't know you seem like a poodle kind of guy or pay an extra 10 000 in taxes every year for life now I'm paying the age to 10. no no face tab poodle for him I'm good on the face side I'm confident in myself we're gonna We gonna pay that 10 watt part two we're gonna pay the 10 ski if you didn't have the pub bag it might have been a different answer don't face Taylor again do you have any tattoos nah I know that'd be a hell of a first one yeah that would be crazy just the whole side right he really set the bar crazy yeah yeah no I'm good on that last part of the Rampage is the word association I'm gonna fire one word at you just fire one word maybe two words okay first thought off the top of your head right back okay let's Get It Go starting with as always hip-hop dealer soap clean toy fun Bank cheddar boring not boring I like that prison bad times lemon pepper wings w e d n e s d-a-y Wednesday wow okay we'll take it we'll take it up fads pancake syrup hot tub time machine Lil Uzi Bitcoin nfts only fans strippers podcast dope [ __ ] one more time was the correct answer got to oh right right you can save it on this last one we see how it is cool I got you I got you you could save it let's just run it back Henry let's just let's just let's try it let's try again podcast one more time ah nice one cool one more time one more time and finally around around here what a rampage what a rampage Hollywood we appreciate you coming on for a dope interview my man as always please like comment subscribe and until next time Henry what are we doing leaving we are getting out of here bye-bye peace [Music] [Music] [Applause] foreign [Music]

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Length: 61min 54sec (3714 seconds)

Published: Thu Nov 17 2022