Hide Tanning Clinic, Oak Bark Tanned Deer, Squirrel & Goat Skins

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better to look at the lens then than the screen you're looking the screen doesn't make you look like you're cross-eyed it just makes you look like you're not looking at the camera which you're not I'm still getting used to doc because my old one was on top my mom say hi mom hi mom Zack came over to hang out and we've been talking about barque tanning and he's watched some of my videos and we talked about barque tanning and he's been bark tanning he just jumps right in there and did it without anybody holding his hand he's got tanning experience already with what buckskin can what's your tanning background maybe we're buckskin and a handful of furs mainly for ya brain tan okay well that's where I started to I learned brain tanning first and then I did it for intensively like crazy and tensley I did it for money and eventually wrote a book and then as soon as that book was out I was like done I'm over it but before the book came out I had already started to experiment a little bit with Bart canning that's been my focus because I'm like real interested and it's a problem that it needs work and it has needed work for a long time it's for a long time just nobody did it you know there was like a few a few of my Tanner friends that experimented they all a lot of them did real similar things and we all made the same mistakes and now finally it's kind of it's gotten some momentum you know but that's how these things work zach brought the heights he's been working on and we're just gonna look at him go over some of the questions that he had about finishing anything that comes up and it seemed worth recording and if it's super boring and don't ever see this this one this is just completely dry yeah dear lime I didn't actually didn't do the was baiting you just pour cement eight out of the line I just can I flush it out Ortiz about it yeah about five five times that's that's okay this is alright this you can tell like I don't know if that's like a little bit of the epidermis or some mmm that kind of looks like something that you may not have been able to prevent sergeants although I can't I can't be sure I mean you don't I have some grain damage here but that can be caused well it can be caused by using a tool that's not up you know if it's too sharp using the tool too hard having a rough beam surface over liming week like a two week of a lime so that eventually the it starts to decay and break down or just lay out leaving it in way too long you know it has a preservative effect and it preserves a high doing extent but it's not like it completely preserves it so it's pretty common for people to over lime or have to we climb also if other things I'm not saying you did any of this but I'm just saying all the reasons that could happen like if someone were to take a skin and kind of water it up into the lime and then just leave it and never stir it and never do anything then parts of the skin may not even be affected much by the line and then those could decay a little bit so there's all kinds of reasons that this could end up happening and I think definitely with some of these things were from the roadkill this one was not as big and I realized on the flip side it's good studying a little you know trying to get every last little piece of membrane especially on the backbone I realized that I was actually kind of making it worse making it worse yet and by that time I realized it you know yeah well if you have a smooth being the other thing is used a slightly sharper tool and when you're scraping don't push straight ahead I mean you get ready to draw knife yeah okay so you know that if you're using a draw knife or a plane or spokeshave if you just it slightly to the side you get a whole different like easier slicing hunch and like it cuts easier and more of a slice as the tool goes diagonally so when people are doing it you may not even be able to see it but when you scrape I would say more often than not especially if you're dealing with anything tough as you slide down you move move your hands from side to side and slightly across and you can do that both if the tool is straight and going straight across the beam this way you can just work like that if with every scrape and sometimes it's really really subtle so be careful I mean you don't want to go like that or you can kind of work the tool at a slight angle or do both but think about that that shearing action it can get you more cut with less pressure if you have plans with this and what you want it to be like oh I don't have any plans for this but so two questions with well what you don't have a plan for what kind of water you want it to be for instance right I mean I would like something more pliable - yeah - where or a situation like having kind of like a flexible bag would be cool but sturdy enough so if I made it in a backpack I'd want it to be a little bit structurally more tight so it holds form but if I I don't know maybe made it into check you like shoes or something well most fetched and doesn't stretch very much and that's a function of a couple of things the main one is that the skin fibers are actually locked together with little bridges that's how the tan actually occurs in a way is the 10th the tannins will make these little cross-linked is called cross-linking bridges between the fibers and it will set it up if I have a piece of brain tanned buckskin like this because this is your sign - I mean look at the difference obviously right but this actually has a lot of literal stretch to it you know it not not just pliability there's a difference between pliability and ability to actually stretch so some of that is because the grain is is taken off a lot of is because it's manually just just worked like crazy you know while it's drawing and pulled and pulled and pulled but the other part is it's not it's not cross-linked like that so if I was gonna make something out of this that I didn't want to stretch very much like say moccasins or something I would put it in a really strong can and solution just shock it and it would actually kind of like the book skin yeah we shrink and almost seize up a little bit now it's all going to do so much but that's one of the reasons but this is deer that's bark Tangiers okay so you can feel what that looks what that's like it's really making something more pliable this also has some stretch to it a little by definitely less than buckskin this one has a little bit less that's a good question it could be the individual deer it could be pretreatment so there's a the old saying is leather is made in the bean house and what that means the beam house was that the place where all the pre pre tanning processes happened so that's where you flash lime D hair deal I'm baiting all that stuff and you know the meaning of the saying is that that stuff before you actually put it in the tan largely determines what kind of leather you can make so what you can take this hide and you can have any intention that you want you know you could try to make it exactly like this or exactly like that you can try to make it completely stiff so it doesn't stretch at all and it's like flat and hard but there's it has limitations like you're working within a set of limitations that have to do with the specific animal and how the hide was treated before it went in the town and then also what it was tanned and how long it was tanned and all that but within that there's quite a bit you can do like kill die right now that's a deer skin too but it was treated really differently yep I mean and that's part of the art of Cannings like how and every time I take like a given hide like a deer hide and make it turn out more like that or more like this right and this is a bad start that's the art of tanning right there this is still tan I believe that's tan oak and the or light off I'm pretty sure it was Nana that was one of my earlier successful brain tents or apart dance well this is just incredibly soft like you could almost make a underwear out of this you know this may be a jacket yeah and I was amazed to like smelling freshly here at BARC tan I mean it is it's leather you know it smells like leather you think about it comes from the tannins yeah bark it's kind of mind-blowing there's different ways you could treat this to get it to come out the way that you want if you want to make it super soft yeah it's like lots you know lots of light oils get it like really well conditioned and then you need to work it a lot as it over ice taking it you can use a steak I really don't prefer that honestly but it'll put more stretch on it so it'll you may be able to get a little more stretch out of it if you wanted to do that but I use this a lot okay so this is a is that pretty remember I'm sorry Oracle well it's both depending on what you're doing so if you want this wrinkly elephant skin texture you fold the skin grain to grain like that and then you know this I just work it so it makes it really pliable because it's bending the fibers so hard right here like imagine what you have to do by hand to kind of do goddess is this right which is much more labor-intensive and you can only work a small area at a time or is this especially if you make a longer one you can really work the thing and if you want the grain smooth like this you just make sure that you always fold it the other way and there's there's a graining board it's called the graining board they might have a different name actually the one the other ones because graining I think what they're referring to is making that texture but there's some that have cork so they don't mess up or dent this side and I haven't made one of those that are used it but the other thing you can do like if you wanted to keep this real flat and not stretched out and not because if you work these a lot you start to get you know this effect where the edges are all stretched out and they're wavy and it's not flat anymore so a real common way to work like this is the way this was work here so if you want to keep the grain smooth you roll it you can roll it and you sleep this way and then working like that and you do that in all different directions or you had this just like yes but see that way the grain is always stretching and it's not crushing in on itself because as soon as you do it this way you develop these wrinkles okay yeah so that's called balling so if you just you can just sort of do anything like this and do it on all different directions when you finish those still be completely flat like this but you'll have this smooth green and this is that's horse yes it's course or a softer fiber - so - to dry this I said I didn't boil this one but laid it on plywood this is the very first one I did tact it stretched it dried but then I developed like the grain you know patterns of yeah cuz that then can you all and work that out or is that something then you're kind of stuck with yeah it depends on what you do with it I usually don't tack them out I'll usually use oil and paste them to a board and I learned that from the mera McDonald tanner in Oregon with all the clothes it was like a traditional part tannery so it involves putting a pretty heavy oil on the grain side and kind of an excess of it and then oiling this side as well and then you take a tool called the slicker have you seen a slicker before so it's a it's just like a smooth slate or something like that and you use that to slick the thing how it onto a smooth surface so with a cowhide or horsehide or something like that it's thick enough that you won't see the grain come through and on the flesh side it kinda doesn't really matter I just use a smoother surface like I have a big sheet of heavy plastic it was actually like part of one of those bathroom stalls Oh like likened like institutional bathrooms oh but it's smooth so it gives me this big surface I can paste on to and believe it or not that's enough to keep it pretty flat like it'll you know it'll kind of shrink in a little bit but it's also important always to dry weather slow unless you're going to redo it and of course you can totally redo it any time so even after it's oiled you can redo that whole process and you know damp it back plus if you're gonna do anything with it then you know in terms of like working it or conditioning it or making the weather softer or whatever then you have to get it wet again anyway so maybe like a damp cloth wiping it down making sure it's kind of absorbs the water and then depends on what you're gonna do with it if I was gonna reach stretch the whole thing like that I would just soak it okay yeah soak it run it on the beam a once on the flush side and just push all the water out push a lot of the water out and then yeah start laughing but you know the type of oil you use like if you want it to be really soft you should use a fat liquor you know use egg yolks and olive oil or something what well yeah it needs foot usually that's a compound if it says neat's-foot oil compound it's actually like solvent oil say if I used egg yolk on this to make it super soft that would just blend up the yolk itself and if so I'll paste it in there yeah and I would use a combination of egg yolk and I use olive oil because it's cheap and it works well okay and it's always available so yeah I mean that that's a whole conference we could talk about that for another 20 minutes but will this think about that so if you if you wanted this to be more like a something flat and a little more dense and less stretchy and less broken in you would also probably want to use a heavier oil so like Brenda you probably run or goat fat I've been using a cheap cheap towel is fine too dear something like that and you could cut that partially with a lighter oil like olive oil that's called Dobbin if it's like you know 5050 one of those heavy Tyler's with a light oil but if you use heavy oils like that and why heavy I mean that stays solid at room temperature you will see a difference in texture of the skin let me run and grab okay so here's exactly what let me just tell you exactly what I would do so if this came out of a pan and I wanted to make it like this I would put it out this way again on that smooth surface take this tool which is stainless and it's not sharp but it does come to enough of an edge that there's friction and it's like grabs the skin and use that to stretch the skin back out because even if you put it on the beam like the tanning process slowly shrinks it and you want to kind of get it open back out so this removes water and it gets it all smoothed out and you try to get it as flat as possible because it's gonna have all these wavy edges and stuff then dubbing or even just tallow on this side completely covered flip it over on smooth surface oil this side with whatever it's gonna be oiled with use the slicker so this is completely smooth and it's used to both stretch it out flatten it out cuz again it's gonna have these wavy edges and you just keep working and working it to try to get as far as possible but this also takes out all of those marks so any marks that were left from your beam all the marks that you have on here these wrinkles all that stuff you can take out with the slicker and you try to leave it you know dead smooth when you're finished by just kind of like gently working it out and then dry it slow but not too slow because it'll mold research I got an example of that yeah and this is a funny question but I did this with the goat right here this is the first one I did with the dubbing where I had half olive oil and half tallow and but being different consistencies one being salad and one being liquid then I kind of heated them enough to right mix them oh yeah you have to and then but then just using a rag I guess and the same thing I'm for a slicker I used I took a little piece of one by square that fit my hand rounded it enough with it with the edge you know what rounded me I can give you a piece of slate and then trying to get this out and this isn't all that old buck that old goat that had died I was Tony Braun one thing is so I got it really good right and that was from the plywood yeah exactly it was for you I mean if you invested wanted to invest if you can buy finish you know finish plywood mm-hmm as long as you don't get you out of Hargis stay smooth one of the things that I did differently with this one is because of that that pissed me off so much as I would set the nails in and then I would go around and I'd lift up the high right about an inch and so then it you know I didn't have any marks with you know the tallow coming up is left in there and is that something that just with yeah what you're saying is this right here right and I had another height I could have brought out you can see it here as well sometimes that'll actually be really thick and I'm pretty sure what that is a stearic acid with some fraction you know the oil kind of fraction eights naturally because any natural oil or animal fat or anything is not just one fatty acid right and it contains all these different fatty acids so even this highly saturated tallow contains some vitals and some heavy oils so the heavy oils will like end up kind of separating and depositing on the surface and more what become more and more solid so like the stearic acid I think is the most saturated that's not like super waxy fat that's around the heart have you ever eaten heart and yeah it's just super waxy fat that's stearic acid it's almost like wax like it'll cool in your mouth and solidify and stick to your mouth yeah you can dip that's why you can dip candles on a tallow is because of the stearic acid pretty sure so I think that's what this is you just take a soft cloth and maybe heat it a little and just really rub it in there and get down into those cracks there's a couple of spots here there that's exactly what I did is kind of a petal you know warmed it up and it really worked it even like with my fingertips got it in there it looks to me it looks slightly over oiled but yeah it's kind of hard to tell these spots it looked like I might have tested it with which is straight olive oil after the fact which darken it up more yeah these maybe these are hyper saturate or something yeah yeah that's a common mistake is over oiling it's you don't want to just keep adding oil and keep soaking it off you know you only need so much well the trick is more to get and even distribution which is difficult especially on something like this you know it's like how do you do that well in a factory they put it in a big tumbler with you know warm oil and they drizzle the oil and as all the highs are tumbling around and like drying you can hold it in front of the fire even the Sun but it's hard to get even penetration but it shouldn't be too hard with something like this well that that's I think what I had issue with is dipping it see I had like a rag dipping that into the oil mixture and once I hit it seemed like immediately it soaked up and then I you know it's getting focused and then as I'm rubbing it around it's kind of like those are spots of oversaturation versus and was this wet yeah yeah if it's real wet you shouldn't get too much soaking in immediately so just go over it and then you could kind of wipe off the excess no I thought and then as it dries the water leaves the oil can move in this was this was a goat that was about three days rotten I actually gave up on it it was turning you know blueish green and I threw it in the compost pile and I was like I'm done with it I mean the next day we had talked about that and I was like I might as well try it yeah my story is the very first part can I did I had this high that is so gross yes so smelly and so rotten it was just beyond like like I remember it very well I think it was a piece of Alec hide yeah or real thick deer I still have it - I don't even know why it was messing with it it was so bad I mean it smelled like an open septic system yeah really dangerous it's very dangerous to handle hides like that yeah and I remember like flushing it it was like separating the layers so there was kind of like one side and the other one side it was a sandwich and in between it was like all cottage cheese like but they were like broken open ulcers that we like reveal this cheesy crap inside there and I just happened to have some oak bark some Tanith bark from my neighbor's a firewood cutter and he we could just go pick it up you know I was like I'm gonna try barks Hanning so I chopped them up through the thing in there like really really strong solution and then you know a month later or weeks later I pulled it out and it actually kind of reconsolidated like you couldn't really tell any of that stuff about it anymore and it just it's almost like it just fixed the hide because the tannins went in there like I said and they like bound all the stuff back together a lot of it together not only did I still have that I used it as a napping pad so you know flint knapping so I'd have it on my lap for hours on end breaking you know obsidian like glass sharp obsidian just all over it just heavy heavy where like that I left it hanging in a tree for a year like that like just like this exactly like this at an oak tree like outside in my yard for a year and I still have it you know yeah it's amazing it's amazing the preservative power and I also another thing I do is I always throw my pieces of bark and in the compost like the scraps and stuff when I'm done and every time I set the compost I see the same pieces come out and then I throw them back in and I've been meaning to mark some of them with like dates so I can follow the progress for years but I'm sure some of them are like five years old eventually they start to go but it really is incredible what they can go through I don't recommend that though handling Heights like that is really dangerous I know lots of people that have had resurrections yeah everyone's like oh I don't get infections or artifice I'm not then they get one oh yeah I have to go to the hospital before poisoning this we'll have a story right what else you got this is deer with the grain off but not tan oh this is tan oak oh that's really nice that's non color yeah it's not soiled yeah same with this is a young year old goat drain off same thing on oil yeah what a fun thing to do with these might be to do a fat licker like I said you can use brains if you want but I lit out a little bit of oil to either one brains are egg yolks you know dip them in they're warm and then hang it up and let let that stuff dry into it yeah and then you can do that again if you want the other thing with bark tan depending on how much you want to stretch it and how much you want to work it is you can damp back so you can take towels soaked them in water and then wring them super super hard like get all the water you can out so there's no like they're not soggy at all lay one out lay the height on it lay another one roll it up put it in a you know wrap it in another cloth or putting a plastic bag on overnight and it'll just get an even a relatively even redistribution of moisture and then you can work it and you don't have to wait as long for it to dry let's do the dampening oil it work it oil it first I like to do the whole fat licking thing maybe what it all right like I said let it dry in one because it the thing about fat like cream is like I was saying you you know you take this and you have your oil and you put it on both sides well you know so what it still has to like slowly creep you know it's oil it has to slowly creep and seep down in along the fibers and you hope it gets in there you hope it distributes itself evenly eventually but with a fat licker it's an emulsion so you have water which is easily moves through the hide and you have the emulsifier which is the lecithin and the eggs egg yolks or whatever or you can use brains and then you have the oil droplet that attaches to the emulsifier which is loose in the water so now we have oil droplets being carried through the hide evenly and distributed completely through the hive oils and conditioners in the egg yolk themselves you know obviously have an effect too so it's not just a bet you're carrying oil but yeah I mean that might be a fun thing to do with these and then just break them super soft almost like brain tan or something so you'll find that they won't they won't stretch the same way and will they want to kind of pucker and take that animal shape yes again you looks like you have a lot of the edges are gone now mm-hmm but if you want to prevent that instead of using stakes and cables so if I take this and I run it over a stake but anyone who doesn't know that a stake is like a stationary blade it's like a doll usually a dull blade and you pull the hide over the edge of it and the purpose being to bend the fibers of the hide which softens the skin it's similar to taking this and rolling it like that or you know the thing I was using so if you want to maintain the flatness don't do things like that that actually stretch it don't pull it you know don't run it over stake or don't run it over a cable just do this stuff you know by hand you can do it like that you can use the draining board to roll it you can do the bowling like I said like this and just this gets like you know bunches of sections of the hide all at once and do that in different directions and then you can keep it more flat I was thinking this could be like potential experiments for like a little notebook book Bonnie you know covers some strong but flexible yeah the thing about dear hi is it naturally wants to be a little bit more flexible and stretchy I don't know how we performing the long run goat is definitely a better choice this is this is a little goat scrap I got to go yeah this one this is like a tool belt like what it could be this is about yeah yeah for for a book cover go actually is a really traditional book binding I love and that's why color it has a slot like you try to take that dough height or any go hide and make it like this mmm-hmm you know this really reliable it's tough like it has to start before tanning starts and I don't even know I don't think it's you know I don't think it's possible to the same extent squirrel did you ever read the long at all know in there he talks about this Moroccan goat processing and it's just insane the number of steps they go through to try to get this letter broken that huh just step after step it's like you know step on it for an hour here and oh in the pits too right yeah working it and pits all these different steps I was just flabbergasted so what's us these are squirrel squirrel squirrel is really nice good well that's thick this one both conditioned with tallow that's what I had and this one came out super thick and clean of course there's still some like epidermis and a little the summer hair that I could just could knock it off I mean I even tried along the legs and and that's what maybe you know rip some edges stuff a little weaker but this one came out super super smooth of course I'd like to clean it up a little bit this one was just filthy looking but it is way more pliable thinner yeah it's tough one walk thinner this sucks just I exceptionally thick you first girl yeah though they often those four swirls mean pretty thick yeah just really nice skin my friend talking always saying you know talking now on Instagram right necromancy creations oh yeah she she loves squirrel ski yeah she's on oh hi okay yeah this one was I was super surprised I got two more in the Tanner solution now I mean what's the you know in terms of discoloration and things what is nose funny thing could have happened along the way like could have been exposed to some metal like iron mmm we've been a little bit in the water or just some it's hard to say there's one difference is this one I had dry scraped I had the fur on and I had dry scraped this one and kept this one with the rawhide with the membrane on and then threw this one in this is with the membrane still on oh and so that's way easier uh-huh yeah I definitely I've migrated more marks at Flushing less and less of arctan you know I just get the gooey gross easy stuff off whatever comes off easy while you're scudding cuz if you scared enough as a home tanner you should be scudding multiple times like four to six times really five or more times it's kind of how I think of it that's good right that's one of my so a lot of its gonna come off anyway enjoyable yeah especially you're you're talking about the sideways motion I remember watching the videos trying it and then re watching and seeing that and how instead of fighting that membrane oh yeah it was just like getting that front but it's yeah really subtle there's a lot of technique to the scraping that needs to be of one or more videos screaming so you got their pouches thank you this one is so this I forget if this is the first stomach of this was a Shh this was a sheep and it's got the honeycomb shape on it super thin tan real pretty looks over oil a little bit yeah this'll be a great price for fat liquor and you know put it in the fat liquor and then just hang it up and let it dry and then you know reso get back in the warm fat liquor again and is that good way to get even distribution without too much saturation right and then as you're working it or as needed just really lightly wipe maybe a little olive oil and cuz it's this is so fun that you can just you know just like that it's over oil and together looks you can see how translucent it isn't it yeah it's pretty impressive Lee soft it's this one turned out yeah really really well it is a really thin but now this is the other stomach the other main stomach this actually turned out really well at different texture got the little lumps on it little skin tags but the inside this is a different stomach this is the main stomach and I just took a cut off of one of the oh yeah round a little yeah right this I feel like is the first stomach and then there's the big one yeah I don't know oh but this is actually the inside of the stomach and this is the inside of the stomach this turned out really well I got I know from our RAM that I did I got a pouch about this big from the stomach and this is yeah this turned out nice cool it's holding up so well I know I have one that it--and yeah what the honeycombs stomach can I have it softened it so it's just this brittle and so when you go through the emulsions and then you hang at the dry I do it again you don't have to do that I just think it it'll help you get a real even distribution and let the battery thing get settle in and then you could just again reheat the the emulsion and start it in there and then go to your whole softening thing and right so that's kind of just like working it back and forth till it's till it's dry yeah or you could and it's best always best to do that while it's damp and then work it till it's dry just like bark bring in you'll get you'll get better results and it's easier unless you damp back you can start with it wet right out of the emulsion you know just wearing it as well as you can and then start right away or you could dry it and then damp it back like I said oh yeah of course something damp in here and then kind of wrap it and just let it sit for maybe ten or twelve hours scrote totes sub that's that's a goat scrote this is the this is our RAM a holy wrap yeah that could be like a baby half oh this is definitely something I want you know take out you know could be anything I on well this could be actually be a great kind of like a fire starting no it was like a mint yeah yeah I'm too big that's huge yeah and this is this is a young your your sheep and so this softened up really nice that's made me one of the most popular guys on my Instagram feed you know the scrote totes this one you were saying at the feed store feed started yeah guys girls they're all loving it um uh yeah grocery stores it's always nice to come out you know skirt good conversation starter oh great yeah yeah um this one is yeah it's pretty yeah pretty tough and it's like I've been talking about over oil I mean I have just don't try to rely on oil to get it softer it's not yeah the problem at all in fact with this I would I would put this in warm water and soap and wash some of the oil out and then just kind of same thing just keep rolling it multiple directions and wow it's drawing yeah okay that's the tricks just like brain can if the fibers aren't stretching and it's already dry you just aren't gonna get the same effect but you know there's there may be a limit to to what right and I don't mind it this is still tough but it's it's it's pretty thick and like I just don't like that kind of popping sound you know I like that this at the top is nice yeah well you may or may not get it but you know obviously you probably do a lot of this right uh-huh so that's about the best thing you can do because it bends the farber really really hard I also try to take it easy just because the hair one in the hair yeah so you might maybe you could do an order if you do it come you know the other way without damaging the hair yeah yeah I could see that really mess on the hair up doing it that way but yeah that's gonna get you that well yeah and then it's hard cuz it's too slippery so yeah back it probably if I had a great supply of scrotes scrote seconds I could definitely make a good living yeah there's no big slaughterhouses around here but you won't talk to mobile butcher them you know the mobile butchers they just not like a truck and they don't do the butchering they just do the slaughtering those guys because the thing is I don't have this skin in so they might not you know if you ask him to save hides I always this so you don't think this was like that before you dried it you know this one when I took it off the board it was this was like the morning of day three but there's no mold so but no I wasn't it was um but when I took it off I felt that it was like fresh mold on bread how it has that fuzz it almost felt like that furry fuzz but not if I rest really doesn't look moldy so who knows but yeah I mean it feels a little different and I don't feel greasy almost where did you all it this is oil just once with the tallow and actually took that's pretty well it feels real different yeah this is all dry and this has this greasy oily and so that was what it was this is the last thing the dry it wasn't completely dry and I had it in a room next to the wood burner now so next to it sighs look yeah so this is your big your big ramp yeah so yeah and this is in the neck on this was so thick it has like these wrinkles you know I'm sure if I wanted to and I know what you mean I could have really tried to work it but there's this lump here the way to deal with that would be from this side Oh interesting the traditional tool is a couriers knife seen that in my videos I did one where I talked about the courier's knife it's the rawhide axe handle wrap guard thing video but in that video what I'd used instead was just a butcher knife and turned the edge like a cabinet scraper have you ever done that No so you just I can teach you later or just learn about cabinet scrapers but it's you just take a here heavier knife yeah so if you were to get the knife really sharp you just take like a hard rod or a smooth hard rod or some kind like a to burnish mm-hmm and then you start at a slight angle and you push the edge over into a little hook it's kind of like it's kind of like a burr a sharpening burr but it's and created intentionally out of the edge and what it does is it it forms this hook and it allows this kind of like cutting slicing action but since it's hooked over it can't go very deep and so you can peel off literally peel off like shavings of skin different than likes like a 90 degree regular a 90 degree scraping it's kind of like slicing but it's been sort of a debt has depth its own self limiting depth control anyway that would be the way to thin this out if you wanted but honestly if you if you need that spot and you need it to be thin even want to get it from the side with the skin skinny marks - I always kind of talk when I get hides and I see all the skins by the neck and Here I am like tough with it I just ended up cutting em yeah well sometimes it just gets so hard at the neck you start cutting yeah if you don't take a lot of time and this is still yet - I feel like dry just fine button and also with now this is just me wiping off the excess oil and that's just the streaks of a towel if it's wet you the grain is just you know just touch it like that yeah leave a dot there's one right there it's probably finger nail dent right there but if it's wrap you know can you touch it with and so to really get that out is the slicker on the surface and okay so I have like I said I use using out rounded one by two get it out and stretched so maybe that's the very last thing I do and in not to be will you can do it a lot but just whenever you're done stop doing this stop doing anything make sure the edges of your slicker are gently rounded up and it's dead smooth and then you'll this you'll be able to see every everything you leave but if you lighten up you will stop getting any marks on that edge like that and you can just leave it all completely smooth and will that come out Dan what's joy when there if I if you were to do like a full-on softening some what some of this stuff would probably just sort of bend its way out especially if you did the inward softening to make this crinkly green texture oh yeah kind of covered up then it'll just you know you won't you won't see it once because the grains gonna go all stretched and that's that's the that doesn't work as well we'll go by the way I find your just wants to do this already the goat wants to be smooth and sheep will be kind of like in between I don't thought she yeah yeah she per that belt scan isn't that's right yeah I just unless you're gonna leave the fur on mmm-hmm I mean it has uses but if you have access to go to your hide side I'm always gonna end up handing those people offer me sheep I'm just like hey yeah yeah okay the firaon they made the wall honest yeah for some things so this could be a good candidate of that it seems like it it's uh it's late I mean it's not I mean I would try to make it fairly soft but I would use like I said don't don't do this to it you keep it smooth mm-hmm and do the rolling the other way like all that stretch it do this [Music] wow it's damn strong not constantly but just enough with the dampening and then do I have to reapply any oil it depends just do it as you need it you know it depends on how much you got in here in the first place and a lot of times with you just want to take have an oily you know maybe olive oil back just by real life you know just hit the green one oil if you think it needs it you could probably fat liquor this actually and then do that and get it pretty pliable and soft but it's not going to be like probably super stretching which is exactly what you want you want to be comfortable I want everything to hold its shape but you don't want it to be stretching floppy where else you got your cool gun belt check that out if you found this in a thrift store three bucks just cool gun ball it's the real deal they're you know fully used for three bucks you know it looks kind of homemade it looks like someone caught a belt off doesn't it yes yeah it looks kind of homegrown right that's veg ten for sure yeah probably cattle cuz cattle doesn't stretch you know I mean maybe horse but horse side is yeah it's probably cattle it'd all be almost for sure one of those two he knows cool though some history behind that that's it on someone's waist a lot this is a cool video definitely the new baby in the house for her chair barked and racoon softened up real nice and now it's it's in there and I can't even describe the smell of that fur and after being oiled and softened and dried but just the smell of yeah fresh barked in its yeah I really can't explain how clean it is after really just pain rinsed a couple times and same with what this is well how did that do did it tint the hair much no no no yeah it often will it's just it doesn't as much as you might think that I had to run it in for maybe like three three weeks or something but I was working it probably every other I mean it's it's more obvious like with a you know squirrel has like a lot of pre you know pretty close to white fur and you'll see it you know on that but maybe with a rock and this isn't this you wanna talk a little tint on the hair yeah plus some you know different hairs are different too so fruit don't seem to have been barked am that much so they were often dressed rather than tan or three with a lemon and all different kinds of oil preparations snack sweet so after this dries come on dampen it and work the SH out of it do I have to do that until it's dry yeah I mean like it's not gonna dry stiff if you don't finish up yeah exactly there's no rule and with bark tan it doesn't it's not able to like just really glue down to itself like brain tan s'more like rawhide you know it wants to do that but this can't do that I can to an extent obviously that's why you're working it but it's like in terms of you know like a bag would be great about beginning to you know crafting leather work but this would be it's not super thick but to get it well you could shoot for something like this you may or may not get it that pliable depending again on the nature of a particular scanner what it went through before but I mean this has a good combination of pliability flatness limited you know limited stretch obviously this lot less stretch so you know so was it kind of to the point where you finish it soften it in a way and then you see what you would make from that after it's all send dunks you'll be able to read the hide or exactly like for us you know we have a limited ability to control exactly what it turns out like so sometimes that's kind of what you're gonna end up doing you can always shoot for it and then you know as we learn more and more we'll be able to do that more right but you know there's so few bark Tanner's now that are at that level so that was done that was the same you know type of tan type of skin bark can but rolled the other way Oh actually write more puckery yeah and you can see goatskins like this though it just they thought this always has this papery thing that go on just love the color oh what the tan oak will do is that it go I mean the deers nice as well but if you were talking about doing falling on this the term I think is falling do wo once once its damped back and it'll be more flexible and more pliable and you start getting it broken in you'll see you can kind of roll it up loosely and start really going for it pushing hard and you can also use your forearms and then this tool is basically a 4r mix you know augmentation device so this lava a peg handle here this one I'm going to put cork on the face so that it won't dent right because this would be leaving all kinds of little pecker marks all over the and that's primarily used for the inside exactly because it has just some grip and and typically these are actually sharp ridges this is just when I whipped out you know the first that's the first one I made so this left cork and then this makes this like a whole forearm extension and there's a strap that holds here so with that cork face you'll be able to just like really lay into it and it's just it more efficient I mean you can obviously do all of that stuff by hand yeah there's there's three that I know of there's the red ones and the ridges vary in number like you know how many ridges per inch that they're typically sharp and and then there's the cork face and then there's one that's ten tin face like a grater so like it's something with little holes punched in it then obviously that would be also for this side just to give it like really good grip so I want to make all of those and do you know do some testing you
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Channel: SkillCult
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Keywords: oak bark tanning, bark tanning, barktanning, veg tanning, home tanning, tanning skins, tanning hides, squirrel skin, deer skin, deer hide, goat skin, goat hide, vegetable tanning, veg tan leather, bark tanned leather, how to tan hides, steven edholm, skillcult, prepping, survival skills, traditional skills, primitive skills, homesteading, crafts, traditional crafts, graining board, softening leather, oiling leather, fatliquor, hide, deer, squirrel, tanning, woodcraft, bushcraft
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Length: 52min 45sec (3165 seconds)
Published: Sun Dec 03 2017
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