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[Music] [Applause] [Music] <font color="#CCCCCC">hey</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> cypher here</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">I know hidden figures was a popular</font> movie and has received ridiculously high praise from<font color="#CCCCCC"> both</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> audiences and critics</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">alike</font> but I thought it was<font color="#E5E5E5"> simply all right</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">nothing outstanding or deserving of</font> particular praise<font color="#CCCCCC"> just another mundane</font> Hollywood biopic<font color="#E5E5E5"> only with three</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">characters instead of one unfortunately</font> as with any Hollywood movie like<font color="#E5E5E5"> this it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">undermines its own narrative by</font> falsifying<font color="#CCCCCC"> the story</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> but I don't really</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">see how</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that could have been avoided</font> here<font color="#E5E5E5"> these women's stories</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> were not</font> filled<font color="#E5E5E5"> with enough drama</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to make for a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">particularly engaging story to begin</font> with<font color="#E5E5E5"> so the movie seems like more of fan</font> fiction than anything else<font color="#CCCCCC"> it's like one</font> of<font color="#CCCCCC"> those</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> stories where</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they bring a</font> bunch of<font color="#E5E5E5"> characters from different</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">stories into one connected one like any</font> of these once upon a time or<font color="#CCCCCC"> grim shows</font> just with early NASA employees their story in reality was quite separate<font color="#CCCCCC"> from</font> one another<font color="#CCCCCC"> as you will see</font> [Music] <font color="#CCCCCC">Dorothee Vaughn was hired into</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> NASA's</font> predecessor organization the National Advisory Committee<font color="#E5E5E5"> for Aeronautics or</font> NACA<font color="#E5E5E5"> in 1943</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Franklin</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Delano Roosevelt</font> had issued some executive<font color="#E5E5E5"> orders</font> removing discriminatory hiring practices <font color="#CCCCCC">in defense related industries</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> so she was</font> hired<font color="#E5E5E5"> into a segregated unit</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> called</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> West area computers<font color="#E5E5E5"> specifically to be</font> one of those computers<font color="#E5E5E5"> NACA had been</font> segregated<font color="#CCCCCC"> by Woodrow</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Wilson in 1915 and</font> it remained in 1943 as a<font color="#CCCCCC"> sidenote why is it always Wilson</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">who's a blight upon our history why</font> can't it be some other president<font color="#CCCCCC"> anyway</font> segregation continued in NACA<font color="#E5E5E5"> until 1958</font> so<font color="#CCCCCC"> Vaughn was one of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> those early</font> computers<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> we have to understand is</font> at this point<font color="#E5E5E5"> in time computers were</font> people rather than machines<font color="#CCCCCC"> you'd give</font> them<font color="#CCCCCC"> a set</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of instructions to calculate</font> and they would do the job<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> electronic computers do today but they would do it by hand<font color="#E5E5E5"> because those kinds</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of computers were barely around at this</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">point in time and incredibly cumbersome</font> so computer was actually<font color="#CCCCCC"> a job title</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I've seen some people taking</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> offense to</font> the word<font color="#CCCCCC"> computer used to describe</font> people<font color="#E5E5E5"> but it's not</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> derogatory in any</font> way<font color="#E5E5E5"> so to those people get over it</font> that's like being upset<font color="#CCCCCC"> that you called</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">someone a butcher a baker or candlestick</font> maker <font color="#E5E5E5">so the segregated computers were</font> administered by a white woman<font color="#E5E5E5"> until 1949</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Vaughn replaced her becoming the first</font> black supervisor in NACA<font color="#CCCCCC"> since its</font> inception<font color="#E5E5E5"> in 1915 the West computers</font> worked well for<font color="#CCCCCC"> years under Vaughn until</font> in 1958<font color="#E5E5E5"> NACA</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> was disbanded</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and NASA was</font> founded with<font color="#E5E5E5"> the changeover NASA</font> officially ended segregation in the <font color="#E5E5E5">workforce and combined the computer</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">pools ladies we've been reassigned</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> by</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> early 1960s</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> human computers were</font> beginning to be phased out<font color="#E5E5E5"> because</font> electronic computers were becoming more <font color="#E5E5E5">and more prevalent it's called an IBM a</font> mainframe machine apparently you can do our calculations in a fraction of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> time <font color="#E5E5E5">Vaughn became the computer programmer</font> instead using the language<font color="#E5E5E5"> called</font> Fortran which is a computer language for scientific calculation still used to this day<font color="#CCCCCC"> she retired from NASA</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in 1971</font> [Music] <font color="#E5E5E5">Catherine Johnson was an amazing</font> mathematician from her earliest years <font color="#E5E5E5">almost a child prodigy</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> she was only 18</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">years</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> old when</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> she received her</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">bachelor's degree she was even</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> chosen to</font> desegregate<font color="#CCCCCC"> a graduate school at West</font> Virginia University<font color="#CCCCCC"> complying with the</font> first round<font color="#E5E5E5"> of desegregation rulings</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">from the Supreme Court in 1939 she was</font> hired by NACA in 1953<font color="#CCCCCC"> where she worked</font> under<font color="#CCCCCC"> Vaughn as one of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the computers</font> when<font color="#E5E5E5"> NASA disbanded the West area</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">computers Johnson went to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> spacecraft</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">control branch</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> essentially they were</font> trying to<font color="#E5E5E5"> calculate how to fly the space</font> missions<font color="#E5E5E5"> we bring him in too soon</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> he</font> burns up on<font color="#CCCCCC"> reentry we bring him in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> too</font> late he's pushed out of<font color="#E5E5E5"> Earth's gravity</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">any changes to mass weight speed time or</font> a puff of wind would<font color="#E5E5E5"> alter the goal</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">no-go we start our calculations</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> oh</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> she</font> was the<font color="#E5E5E5"> one who calculated Alan Shepards</font> flight<font color="#E5E5E5"> in 1961 office</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> cuckoo dot</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> every</font> mission that<font color="#E5E5E5"> went out at that time</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">height the speed and so on</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">it became</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a degenerative problem and was</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">even asked by John Glenn to verify the</font> electronic computer results<font color="#E5E5E5"> for his</font> flight in 1962 it took<font color="#CCCCCC"> we Laila</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> have to compute what</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the computer should given him turned out</font> to be the exact numbers<font color="#CCCCCC"> they had she</font> helped construct<font color="#CCCCCC"> threw her on the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> spot</font> calculations<font color="#E5E5E5"> nearly every trajectory of</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> Mercury</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and Apollo missions she was</font> even instrumental in reconfiguring the flight trajectory in<font color="#E5E5E5"> the Apollo 13</font> mishap<font color="#CCCCCC"> she worked</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for NASA until 1986 in</font> a number<font color="#CCCCCC"> of capacities</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> even co-authoring</font> 26 studies she was even awarded the Presidential<font color="#CCCCCC"> Medal of Freedom in 2015</font> for all<font color="#E5E5E5"> this</font> Mary Jackson was hired as a computer by <font color="#CCCCCC">naka in 1951 in 1953 she took</font> engineering<font color="#E5E5E5"> courses from a school that</font> she herself had desegregated<font color="#E5E5E5"> earning an</font> engineering degree by 1958<font color="#E5E5E5"> when she was</font> promoted to<font color="#E5E5E5"> being an aerospace engineer</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">just after the NASA changeover she was</font> the first<font color="#E5E5E5"> black female engineer in NASA</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">though</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> there had been black men and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">white</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> women before</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> her Jackson jumped</font> from<font color="#E5E5E5"> being a computer calculating</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> wind</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">tunnel experiments</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to being the one who</font> was actually<font color="#E5E5E5"> designing those experiments</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">she authored several papers and</font> co-authored even more<font color="#E5E5E5"> a lot of which has</font> to<font color="#CCCCCC"> do with</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> supersonic flight she</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">eventually took a demotion</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in order to</font> become<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> administrator of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> NASA's Equal</font> Opportunity Division in<font color="#E5E5E5"> the 1980s which</font> handled issues of race class or<font color="#CCCCCC"> gender</font> between NASA's personnel<font color="#CCCCCC"> after being</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">there</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> for a few years she retired in</font> 1985 so this movie<font color="#CCCCCC"> is kinda weird</font> scholastically<font color="#CCCCCC"> it is the first time I</font> know of in which the<font color="#E5E5E5"> namesake of a</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">nonfiction movie was made simultaneously</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">with the movie itself</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 2001 a Space</font> Odyssey<font color="#CCCCCC"> did it back in 1966</font> but that's science<font color="#E5E5E5"> fiction not history</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the relationship between arthur c clarke</font> and stanley<font color="#E5E5E5"> kubrick during the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> making</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> movie</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the resultant differences</font> in tone<font color="#E5E5E5"> and plot are somewhat similar to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">what happened</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> here though in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> both cases</font> the book came out near months prior to <font color="#E5E5E5">the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> release of the movie it's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> kind of</font> weird<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I've</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> never heard of this ever</font> being<font color="#E5E5E5"> attempted before</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of course</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Margo</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Lee shed early the author of the</font> book is in<font color="#CCCCCC"> a very</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> different</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> position</font> from<font color="#E5E5E5"> arthur c clarke both as an Arthur</font> and in<font color="#E5E5E5"> genre with fiction you can make</font> it<font color="#E5E5E5"> up as you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> go along</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> but history</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> is not</font> fiction<font color="#CCCCCC"> so the story</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> is already there</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">shed</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> early is acting more as an</font> investigator<font color="#E5E5E5"> than somebody just making</font> it up <font color="#E5E5E5">also arthur c clarke was an eminent</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">author in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> his field by 1966</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">shed</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> early is just getting started</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as a</font> historian<font color="#CCCCCC"> this was her first work and</font> she was<font color="#CCCCCC"> a journalist</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> beforehand not</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font> historian<font color="#E5E5E5"> basically she became a</font> historian<font color="#E5E5E5"> by completing this book which</font> means<font color="#E5E5E5"> the movie rights were</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> sold to this</font> history book<font color="#E5E5E5"> by a person who was still</font> becoming a historian very awkward indeed and it shows not<font color="#E5E5E5"> only in the movie</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> but</font> in the intent of the book as<font color="#E5E5E5"> well the</font> idea<font color="#CCCCCC"> behind the title hidden figures</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">should be pretty obvious it's meant to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">point out people in which previous</font> narratives have<font color="#E5E5E5"> left out but still</font> remain important to<font color="#E5E5E5"> those narratives as</font> in they have<font color="#E5E5E5"> been hidden by history now</font> saying that<font color="#E5E5E5"> these people</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in which the</font> movie<font color="#E5E5E5"> depicts have been hidden by</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">history is an overstatement to say the</font> least<font color="#CCCCCC"> if anything the thing</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that has</font> obscured these computers from prominence <font color="#E5E5E5">is the fact that they were a few among</font> many we<font color="#E5E5E5"> don't talk about the numerous</font> engineers and scientists who worked at <font color="#CCCCCC">NASA</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> as being hidden</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> by history for the</font> most part let alone the computers who worked for<font color="#E5E5E5"> them calling them hidden is</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to mistake the nature</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of their work</font> now<font color="#CCCCCC"> shedder lee's book actually</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> focuses</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">on a number of other computers</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> not just</font> the three<font color="#CCCCCC"> in the movie but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the problem</font> remains<font color="#CCCCCC"> it also is not as though there</font> hasn't been previous scholarship on these women<font color="#E5E5E5"> for</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">sleek two out of the three were well</font> published in their own right<font color="#E5E5E5"> secondly</font> all of them have been the subject of numerous<font color="#E5E5E5"> works from oral history</font> projects to the Obama administration's women's history<font color="#CCCCCC"> forum there is a</font> manuscript<font color="#E5E5E5"> publicly available online</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">which</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> covers this subject and was</font> submitted more<font color="#E5E5E5"> than two decades prior to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">this also NASA</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> has a cultural resources</font> wiki which has been immensely<font color="#E5E5E5"> useful in</font> finding<font color="#E5E5E5"> both primary and secondary</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">sources</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on the subject all of this stuff</font> pre-existed the book but that<font color="#E5E5E5"> is all in</font> tone<font color="#CCCCCC"> the substance of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the books</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">scholarship as in its veracity meets</font> what I've come<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> expect of newly minted</font> historians and for the purposes<font color="#CCCCCC"> of this</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">review remains unassailable</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it is the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">movie's veracity that is in question</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for</font> it seems more like<font color="#E5E5E5"> somebody making a fan</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">fiction</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> out of shudder</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Lee's research</font> I'm going to keep this short<font color="#CCCCCC"> because</font> there's basically nothing correct about <font color="#E5E5E5">this film</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> being said I'll get into</font> why<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's understandable later from the</font> outset of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the film were shown how little</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">it will come to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> resemble reality</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> so the</font> beginning<font color="#E5E5E5"> of the movie tells us that</font> this<font color="#E5E5E5"> is</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> happening in 1961</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> highway in</font> Hampton<font color="#CCCCCC"> Virginia</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 1961 and it's all</font> supposed to be progressing from there <font color="#E5E5E5">yet we see them immediately</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> going to the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">West Computer Group which hadn't existed</font> for three years by<font color="#CCCCCC"> that point we're also</font> treated to<font color="#E5E5E5"> the three characters renting</font> a car to work together<font color="#CCCCCC"> which is patently</font> false<font color="#CCCCCC"> they are shown as</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> being all</font> buddy-buddy<font color="#CCCCCC"> in this but in reality</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Vaughn was the other twos boss until</font> 1958<font color="#E5E5E5"> when</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they all went their separate</font> ways<font color="#E5E5E5"> and they were never recorded as</font> doing any of these<font color="#E5E5E5"> things together</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they</font> obviously knew each other<font color="#E5E5E5"> but as</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">co-workers not necessarily friends a</font> great deal<font color="#CCCCCC"> of this movie is based</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> on</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">these factual errors all of the history</font> before 1961<font color="#E5E5E5"> from</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Ron becoming a</font> supervisor in 1949<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> disaggregation in</font> 1958<font color="#E5E5E5"> is shown as though they happened at</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the same time years after the fact but</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">what really bugs me on this squashed</font> chronology is the fact that they make a bunch of big<font color="#CCCCCC"> events like the</font> first dog<font color="#CCCCCC"> in orbit happened in this 1961</font> timeframe<font color="#E5E5E5"> that happened in 1957</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> don't</font> even<font color="#E5E5E5"> expect</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to get some good space race</font> history<font color="#E5E5E5"> out of this one also</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as a side</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">thing that really</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> bugs me as soon as I</font> found out about it<font color="#CCCCCC"> in the movie they</font> showed<font color="#E5E5E5"> Jackson's supervisor this</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">engineered guy who says that he is</font> Jewish<font color="#CCCCCC"> and had actually been in one of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> concentration camps and uses that to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">encourage Jackson to become an engineer</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I'm a Negro Lama</font> I'm not going<font color="#E5E5E5"> to entertain the</font> impossible<font color="#E5E5E5"> and I'm a Polish</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Jew whose</font> parents died<font color="#CCCCCC"> in a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Nazi prison</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> camp now</font> I'm standing<font color="#E5E5E5"> beneath a spaceship that's</font> going to carry an astronaut to<font color="#CCCCCC"> the stars</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I think we can say we are living the</font> impossible<font color="#E5E5E5"> if you were like me would you</font> wish<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> be an engineer he</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> wasn't</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> even an</font> immigrant<font color="#CCCCCC"> he was born in Massachusetts</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">for pete's sake</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> crystal masked happened</font> while he<font color="#CCCCCC"> was in graduate</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> school</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Alabama</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> wasn't aware</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that there were</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">concentration camps in Alabama</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he was</font> American through and through yes he was Jewish<font color="#CCCCCC"> but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for some reason</font> the movies producers decided<font color="#E5E5E5"> that well</font> Jewishness must automatically mean that <font color="#CCCCCC">they've been</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in a concentration camp</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that's kind of screwed up you shouldn't</font> say that somebody was<font color="#CCCCCC"> in a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> concentration</font> camp when<font color="#CCCCCC"> they never were don't do that</font> we have to get off of that<font color="#CCCCCC"> bits and</font> pieces<font color="#CCCCCC"> of this thing</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> are combined into</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Johnson's individual story</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> while Jackson</font> and Vaughn are hidden by the plot so for instance<font color="#E5E5E5"> this big thing about Johnson</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">having to run halfway across the Langley</font> campus just<font color="#E5E5E5"> to get to a colored bathroom</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">is something that happened but it was</font> Jackson<font color="#E5E5E5"> instead of Johnson Johnson</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in</font> fact didn't notice that<font color="#E5E5E5"> the bathrooms</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">were segregated for two years</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and when</font> she was<font color="#E5E5E5"> confronted about it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> she paid it</font> no<font color="#E5E5E5"> heat continuing to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> use</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the white</font> bathrooms for two more<font color="#CCCCCC"> years</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> before they</font> were officially desegregated in 1958<font color="#E5E5E5"> in</font> fact this awkward dating<font color="#E5E5E5"> is meant to</font> serve one central plot point<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> completely loses<font color="#CCCCCC"> focus on the other</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> two</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">characters</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the climax of the movie</font> when Johnson<font color="#E5E5E5"> loses her</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> job as a computer</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the new electronic computer from IBM</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">but then John Glenn demanded a recheck</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of the numbers saying let's get the girl</font> to check the numbers but wasn't<font color="#E5E5E5"> Vaughn</font> one of the coders of that IBM<font color="#E5E5E5"> so isn't</font> that<font color="#CCCCCC"> also somewhat of an insult to her</font> story arc<font color="#E5E5E5"> but the movie just subsumes</font> her story for<font color="#CCCCCC"> Johnson's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a little hard to</font> trust<font color="#CCCCCC"> Tom</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he can't look in the eyes</font> that's right<font color="#CCCCCC"> Colonel Katherine did</font> manage to calculate a<font color="#E5E5E5"> few decimal points</font> further<font color="#E5E5E5"> than</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that hunk of metal</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> well I</font> would think every digit you got be sure <font color="#E5E5E5">thank you for me now this actually</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">happened in 1961 for which the whole</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">movie's plot revolves but is it enough</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> make</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> everything else subservient to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">it well actually yes I think so this may</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">be strange for</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> me</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to say but I think</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that this movie would have been</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">incredibly boring if it were more</font> accurate<font color="#E5E5E5"> now I normally advocate</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">accuracy for the sake</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of making</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> better</font> movies for<font color="#E5E5E5"> the truth is always better</font> than fiction <font color="#E5E5E5">plus a you avoid distorting our</font> understanding of the world<font color="#CCCCCC"> by telling</font> the truth but here the truth doesn't <font color="#E5E5E5">seem film about trying to communicate</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">several different stories happening over</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> course of decades</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> is not something</font> Hollywood<font color="#E5E5E5"> seems particularly capable of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of course that begs the question</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of why</font> even<font color="#E5E5E5"> bother trying</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to film this when</font> there<font color="#E5E5E5"> are plenty of other stories</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> tell that could easily give that same <font color="#E5E5E5">point but that would mean</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that Hollywood</font> would have<font color="#CCCCCC"> to have a clue about the</font> world it wishes to<font color="#E5E5E5"> portray and we all</font> know how out of touch<font color="#CCCCCC"> they are</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it would</font> take a truly gifted set of filmmakers to make that<font color="#CCCCCC"> vision come to light and</font> hidden figures was a movie made<font color="#CCCCCC"> by</font> committee because good filmmaking is always<font color="#CCCCCC"> a risk</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the movie was perfectly</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">engineered to take advantage of the</font> current<font color="#E5E5E5"> political climate pretty heavy</font> stuff<font color="#CCCCCC"> yes it is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> identity politics were</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">already on the rise before the election</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">so this movie would have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> done well no</font> matter what<font color="#E5E5E5"> because it plays to those</font> sensibilities<font color="#CCCCCC"> but then Donald Trump was</font> elected surprising<font color="#E5E5E5"> the entire Hollywood</font> establishment instead identity politics continued to rise in prevalence<font color="#CCCCCC"> but with</font> seemingly more urgency<font color="#CCCCCC"> into that climate</font> this movie was released<font color="#E5E5E5"> that is why it</font> was<font color="#E5E5E5"> so popular it told an inspiring</font> story about<font color="#CCCCCC"> overcoming racial bigotry</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">from the perspective</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of those oppressed</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">at the time the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> public most wanted it it</font> plays<font color="#E5E5E5"> to people's political proclivities</font> tugging at<font color="#E5E5E5"> everything that the nation</font> most prizes in recent scholarship<font color="#CCCCCC"> even</font> the fact checkers<font color="#E5E5E5"> were duped into</font> praising it<font color="#E5E5E5"> people were quoting</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Catherine Johnson</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as saying that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">movie sounded accurate</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> after having seen</font> it<font color="#E5E5E5"> that doesn't mean anything though</font> that quote could<font color="#E5E5E5"> easily mean quite the</font> opposite of what<font color="#CCCCCC"> these fact checkers</font> were bringing up and then they always <font color="#E5E5E5">fail to mention</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that NASA</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> had been</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">desegregated for three years prior</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">when this movie is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> supposed to take</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">place here</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> at NASA</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> we all pay the same</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">color now that's not to say that there</font> wasn't<font color="#E5E5E5"> some sort of systemic racism</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">having just desegregated despite what</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you may think I have nothing against</font> y'all<font color="#CCCCCC"> I know I know you probably believe</font> but<font color="#E5E5E5"> they're depicting it as being</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">segregated which is false so I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> don't</font> think the film deserves the praise<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> has been heaped upon it and certainly <font color="#E5E5E5">not</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> ridiculously high ratings it has</font> gotten<font color="#E5E5E5"> on Rotten Tomatoes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it is an</font> alright movie<font color="#CCCCCC"> if</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you simply want fan</font> fiction but that's pretty<font color="#E5E5E5"> much all it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> is</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you're not</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> going</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to learn</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> anything</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> out</font> of this<font color="#E5E5E5"> you're not going to actually be</font> shown how people overcame racism or <font color="#E5E5E5">anything it's a simple story that holds</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">no meaning after the fact or</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to put it</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">more simply</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the history that this movie</font> wishes to portray is the real hidden <font color="#E5E5E5">figure</font> [Applause] [Music] [Music]
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Channel: The Cynical Historian
Views: 69,619
Rating: 4.7081642 out of 5
Keywords: history, documentary, Dorothy Vaughan, Vaughan, human computers, NACA, NASA, Katherine Johnson, Mary Jackson, Margot Lee Shetterly, Shetterly, Hidden Figures, truth, true story, reality, accuracy, John Glenn, hidden figures, hidden, nasa, segregation, Jim Crow
Id: iC1UelSFOlg
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Length: 18min 8sec (1088 seconds)
Published: Thu May 11 2017
Reddit Comments

Oh, good, I was wondering when anyone of the mainstreamers would address it.

Fun fact: Glenn never mentioned that story; it increasingly looks like a massive act of historical revisionism.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/DDE93 📅︎︎ May 12 2017 🗫︎ replies

And it's a damn shame, too. Maybe it would have made a boring movie if it was more accurate, but I think the real stories about these woman give people more insight and pride in our predecessors than some made up thing.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/Zigarrenbar 📅︎︎ May 12 2017 🗫︎ replies

Identity politics in my media?

Hellz naw.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/SeaSaltSirens 📅︎︎ May 12 2017 🗫︎ replies
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