HaShem Part 4: Yehovah - 119 Ministries

[Music] [Music] hello and welcome to another teaching from 119 ministries our ministry believes that the whole Bible is still true and directly related to our lives today if you would like to know more about what we believe in teach please visit us and test everything net we hope that you enjoy studying and testing the following teaching in our hashem series we have already revealed some of the possible pronunciations of the tetragrammaton a couple that we may agree with one being Yahweh and the other being a way if you have watched our teachings you may note that we do favour Yahweh in pronunciation at least for now does this mean that we believe that pronunciation to be 100% definite no that pronunciation has its own set of fair criticisms in our attempt to do the best that we are able we are still at this time favoring Yahweh that of course is always subject to change as there is no shortage of study and passion from all sides on this subject because we all often refer back to previously covered material we hope that you have already watched the previous parts of the hashem series if you have not please consider doing so before proceeding in this part of the history m series we are going to closely examine the pronunciation Yoba and for whatever it is worth share some of our concerns for those who might take interest Yehovah as the least likely valid pronunciation while Yehovah has been on our list of possible pronunciations of the name after further study we have come to the conclusion that yahuveh is perhaps the least likely possible pronunciation we have come to realize that both jehovah and yahoo v are possibly the only two pronunciations that have overwhelming evidence against their validity regardless if one favors the law or the if one favors the wall the pronunciations would be yahuwah and yahoo we yet our concerns would still be just the same that may be a little frustrating for some to hear there is currently a massive promotion underway that suggests that the pronunciation debate is over how exciting indeed would that be if it was true however the most esteemed Hebrew language scholars are not buying it despite that suppose at evidence --is the pronunciation of jehovah has been growing in popularity because of the passion and the promotion behind it we have been watching the debate with interest for years for those who have watched our Bob vs. hua presentation earlier in the series it should be understood that we do favor the law vs. devolve we will be dominantly using the Bob not the law in this teaching because most proponents of Jehovah subscribed to the Evolve instead of the law we will also simply use the VAR n during to produce Yehovah in this teaching only for the purposes of simplicity and avoiding the awkward redundancy of having to continuously state both the wah and the Bob pronunciations for those who subscribe to Yahoo Bob please be aware we encourage all to study out this subject the best that one is able scholars are still unsettled on this topic we should be patient with one another as we all attempt to work toward the same goal if one is hard set on the yellow Bob pronunciation who are we to argue there are numerous Hebrew experts that are more than willing to express their disagreement and reasoning we are only offering our perspective for whatever that is worth and our perspective is derived from closely examining their research on all sides before we dive deep in the promoted support for Yahoo ba we feel it necessary to cover some foundational material why is there a pronunciation debate before the Middle Ages with a few exceptions Hebrew was not written with vowels when Hebrew text is read the vowels were inserted by their reader because they knew which vowel sounds were to be included with every word because Jewish populations were gradually adopting languages of their surrounding cultures and interest and inserting the vows into the text to preserve spoken Hebrew paramount a Jewish group called the macerate took on this task one of their outputs of such work was the aleppo codex in the 10th century which inserted vowel markings in the Hebrew text unfortunately a great deal this codex was destroyed in a fire a similar complete mastery codex was found that supposedly copied from the aleppo codex that code X is called the Leningrad codex and these manuscripts the vows inserted into the Tetragrammaton were not consistent there are several variations of the spelling of the name remember that because it is important the Jews adopted the ineffable name doctored long before the work of the masteries the inevitable name doctrine restricted a name from being said evidence of the beginnings of this practice existed about three hundred years prior to Yeshua and he eventually became the dominant position on the pronunciation of the name the ineffable named doctrine combined with the multiple spellings of the name in the manuscripts with vowel pointings has generally led most scholars to believe that knowing how to pronounce the name has been lost at minimum it's rather difficult if not impossible to absolutely prove how to correctly pronounce the name that position has not changed this is also important the source of the pronunciation Jehovah is directly from the aleppo and Leningrad codices however Jehovah is simply one of several spellings found in the aleppo and Leningrad codices Massa reached Tetragrammaton pronunciations eeny meeny miny moe why are there multiple spellings of the name in the aleppo and Leningrad codices in order to answer this we need to discuss a scribal practice called katieb Caray that macerates invented a system of marginal notations called k' teeth which means what is written and Caray which means what is to be read this well-known hebrew reading system served a distinct purpose at some point in history rabbis adopted the ineffable name doctrine this doctrine taught that the Tetragrammaton should not ever be pronounced because it is against ineffable name doctrine to say the name the macerates then had a problem in attempting to insert vowels into the Tanakh if they were to insert vowels into the Tetragrammaton they would inadvertently not only enable others to once again say the name but perhaps also even cause it as the scriptures were read the best way to avoid this is to use the perpetual caiti currey method this system would write a word one way and then indicate that it is supposed to be read a different way as mentioned before there are several different spellings of the name in the Aleppo and leningrad codices transliterated they would be Navy yaho V Y Ava Jehovah it should be noted that Yehovah is simply one of the pronunciations offered in the codices it is nearly universally agreed upon by Ebru scholars that the vowel markings in the Tetragrammaton in the massery codices are intended to be a perpetual KT of karere here are a couple esteemed Hebrew scholars that subscribed to the usage of KT of Caray for the Tetragrammaton professor Stephen fast burg professor and scholar at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and professor Emmanuel Tove professor and scholar at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem that would mean that these Hebrew scholars just as most Hebrew scholars would not agree with arbitrarily selecting one spelling from these codices as valid pronunciations such as Jehovah how did the list of different hide the name pronunciations that are found in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices this Tetragrammaton vile pointless really boils down to two similar Spelling's yavi is this shortened or abbreviated form of Jehovah Yahveh is the shortened form of jehovah most Hebrew scholars suggest that in using core a Perpetuum that yeh v /v points to saying elohim and that yay vas / Yehovah points to seyn Adonai the reason for the two different approaches is simple sometimes scriptures would read yo J Beauvais Elohim and other times it would read yo J Beauvais Adonai in the instances of yo hey Bob hey Elohim they would insert vowel pointers indicating one should read adonai elohim in the instances of yoda bhave a denying they would insert bow pointers indicating that one should read elohim out on i this method prevented their readers from awkwardly saying Elohim Elohim or Adonai Adonai which would be blatantly redundant in quite silly is universally agreed that the different spellings for the name in the mastery text were intended to hide the name there is no other possible reason that several different spellings were offered now this is important in order to hide something what is the one thing that must be true answer in order to hide something you have to have it you cannot hide something that you do not have we do not know of any credible Hebrew scholar that disagrees that the macerates are intentionally trying to hide the name by in point several different spellings this means that yeah V is hiding the name not revealing it this means that yaho V is hiding the name not revealing it this means that ya BA is hiding the name not revealing it this means that yahuveh is hiding the name not revealing it so any spelling of the tetragrammaton that appears in a Leningrad and Aleppo codices is actually evidence against them being valid pronunciations so why has some selected yellow ba out of the list of spellings that that macerates used to hide the name llevar in the longer form Yehovah are the most common occurrences in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices because of this jehovah with the fuller vowel pointing has become the most popular pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton this is the same methodology that Jehovah's jehovah's witnesses used to adopt the naming of their theology back in 1931 so nothing new consequently there are many known Jewish letters and manuscripts written after the Leningrad and Aleppo codices that select yahuveh as a spelling of the tetragrammaton this is not much different than how many today believe that the Messiah his name is Jesus instead of Yeshua only because it is written so many times as such ask a modern Christian pastor what the name of their Messiah is and they will likely respond with Jesus because that is what their Bible says ask a Hebrew speaking Jew a couple of centuries after the creation of the Leningrad and Aleppo codices on how to say our creators name and they might say yeah OVA because that is the longer form of the dominant spelling found in the mastery Tanakh consequently historical Jewish manuscripts can be found this site yahuveh as the spelling of the name but only after the Leningrad and Aleppo codices were written not before there is one particular Hebrew scholar that is leading a quest to find many of these manuscripts that site the Yehovah spelling but it does not matter how many of these are found because every source of yahuveh being used and said manuscripts are sourced from and after the Leningrad and Aleppo codices so all manuscripts that contain de alva are due to the source of the Leningrad and Aleppo codices such manuscripts are simply regurgitating a common spelling found in the bow pointing of the macerates thus if the macerate spellings are not valid pronunciations then all manuscripts containing Tetragrammaton spelling citing those codices are also invalid evidence is only as good as its source let us say that again because it is important evidence is only as good as its source so allow us to now explain that problem more clearly if this source of Jehovah is just one of many pronunciations found in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices and the pronunciations found in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices are a known mechanism in the agenda to keep the name hidden then there is nothing to be excited about in fact it is to be expected and nothing more groundbreaking than the Jehovah's Witnesses process that we entertained maybe a hundred so years ago today we just simply have more of the same if we were to print more English Bibles with the name Jesus does that make the name of our Messiah as Jesus any more valid of course not but we would have more evidence right no all spellings of the Messiah's name as Jesus all go back to the King James Version Bible likewise all spellings of Jehovah go back to the master it's Leningrad and Aleppo codices again all of these sources point back to the original spellings found in the Leningrad Aleppo codices so it does not matter if we find one hundred one thousand or ten thousand historical manuscripts using jehovah or any other pronunciation found in the mastery texts it is universally agreed that the authors of the leningrad aleppo codices were attempting to hide the true pronunciation of the name there is no other explanation as to why they would use multiple pronunciations if that were not the case as mentioned earlier in order to hide something one must have it so we would then agree that the authors of the Leningrad and Aleppo codices did at least at one time know the pronunciation of the name their goal was to hide the name in its entirety to hide it they had to know it the multiple spellings that they offered were a natural consequence of that agenda because of this agenda we would strongly reason that none of the spellings in the Leningrad and Aleppo code Isis reflect an accurate pronunciation of the name their goal was not to allow anyone to say the name or even to write it thus it can be reasonably concluded that none of the spellings in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices can be accurate pronunciations Yaiba / jehovah and kb / Jacobi would all be the least likely pronunciations out of all existing theories because these only exist as an invention in order to serve the hiding of the name not the exposing of the name the Jehovah as an accident and possibility it is sometimes said that the Oh was accidentally inserted into Yaiba to form Yehovah thus revealing the spelling of the name there is no proof of this and it would be contradictory to the painstaking err proofing methods employed by Hebrew scribes over thousands of years in addition Navy also has a form that occasionally inserts an O making it no different than the O inserted occasionally and Yaiba yet fewer arguing that Yahoo V has an O accidentally inserted into it is it not interesting that in the codices Java has a version with an O forming Yehovah and JV also has a version with an O forming yahu v but supposedly the o and yeah halva was an accident that occurred nearly 50 times and is somehow more important than yaho B yet that is what is being said this is why it is well understood that yeah V and Y Ava are simply shortened forms of Jehovah and Yoba which are also presented in the codices both the AV and yah both offer an option of an O because some have been forced to be academically honest and admit that scribes would not have a lot of mistake of accidentally revealing the pronunciation of the name it is also sometimes said that the placement of the O and Java creating Jehovah and the codices is perhaps intentional this can be quickly dismissed because intentionally placing a correct pronunciation and the codices would lead others even Gentiles to occasionally pronounce the name this would be a massive offence to their faulty understanding of what it means to profane the name and completely contradictory to their agenda they are not going to hide the name by giving the name how would that even make sense also this would not afford any explanation as to why yahuveh is the supposedly correct pronunciation and why yeah he'll be is not when both longer form spellings are present in both codices like the Jehovah's Witnesses subscription to Yaiba Yehovah is apparently chosen over a B yaho B only because of its slight dominance in the texts this is where it gets very interesting so if the authors of the Leningrad and Aleppo codices were attempting to hide the name in which nearly every Hebrew scholar agrees then it is interesting to note which possible Tetragrammaton prefix and suffix they never used in their attempt to hide the name they never used yah or way you will never find those to present in an eval pointing Hebrew manuscript and reference to the Tetragrammaton ever again the prefix yah is never used with a vowel pointings for the Tetragrammaton and the suffix way is never used with the vowel pointings for the Tetragrammaton their prefix ca is used and the suffix is V and BA but interestingly enough not yeah and Bey or Yahweh or Yahweh is then not offered in any form directly connected to the Tetragrammaton in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices is that bad for the Yahweh pronunciation no actually quite the opposite there is a reason for this if you are going to hide the name you are not going to use any part of the true pronunciation and your attempt to hide it you don't hide something by telling someone where it is you hide something by actually not revealing it any of it by process of elimination of the prefix and suffix that they did not use a spelling left standing is Yahweh interestingly enough as mentioned previously in this series this also agrees with historical witnesses and evidences that date far prior to the more modern and recent Leningrad and Aleppo codices however if Yahweh actually occurred in the Leningrad and Aleppo codices then that would be ample evidence against Yahweh and we would then have to discard it as a possibility but since Yahweh does not occur in Hebrew manuscripts with macerates vowel pointings and because multiple Greek transliterations do support it such a pronunciation still falls into the camp of being most likely consistent with the idea that yoga is an invention of the master it's as a means to hide the name we also do not see any ancient Greek transliterations evidencing such a pronunciation of Jehovah does that prove the Yahweh pronunciation no we would suggest that anyone claiming to know that pronunciation is misguided and divisive doing more damage than good all theories on the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton are educated theories because we can reasonably assume that the master eats knew how to pronounce the name and that their clear agenda was to hide the name then the following Spelling's are the only possible Spelling's with overwhelming evidence against them those would be JB yahoo v java and Yehovah the topic of pronouncing the name is one of the most attention-grabbing topics that exist in the faith and to some that is appealing if a teacher is not recognizing the fact that we cannot prove the pronunciation of the name then that is a cause for concern yes we all want to know without a doubt on how to pronounce the name and someday we will scripture declares it but that time has not yet arrived while we respect and admire those who step out and reveal their opinion keep in mind that the best minds and most educated in the Hebrew language with access to all the supposed evidences of each position have not arrived to any conclusive position to us for whatever it is worth that is the respectable position which is no definitive position the Josephus contradiction as discussed earlier in this series Josephus mentions that written on the headpiece of the high priest was the four vows of the tetragrammaton Josephus knew the letters of the Tetragrammaton and it is generally believed that given who Josephus was he likely knew how to pronounce the Tetragrammaton accurately Josephus was a first-century Romano Jewish scholar and historian who was born in Jerusalem he was born to a father a priestly descent and a mother who claimed royal ancestry Josephus referred to the name as four vowels a mitre also of fine linen encompassed his head which was tied by a blue ribbon about which there was another golden crown and which was in graven this sacred name of the Almighty it consists of four valves most are not so bold to say that the first century Jewish historian with priestly ties did not know how to pronounce our creator's name the problem for yahuveh here is that Josephus says that the name is for vowels well Yehovah has three vowels then is a big problem for the Yehovah pronunciation so what yaho ba proponents have suggested is that Josephus was referring to the ancient Greek phonetic transliteration of the pronunciation of the name which were also four vows I a iota Alpha Epsilon and alpha pronounced as Yahweh we don't see how this solves their problem this would have Josephus agreeing that the pronunciation of the name is Yahweh Yahweh is not the same pronunciation as Jehovah either way the Josephus testimony hundreds and hundreds of years before the first appearance of Jehovah is just one of the major damaging evidences against Jehovah there is more to consider while IAU a Yahweh is certainly a known ancient pronunciation of the name by those in the faith preserved in the Greek was it the Greek version of the name that was written on the headpiece of the high priest how many actually believed that Greek letters instead of Hebrew letters were written on the headpiece of the high priest hopefully not many Josephus stated that the letters are in raved on the golden crown of the high priest the letters that are engraved on the crown of the high priests are Hebrew letters not Greek letters Josephus was saying that the Hebrew tetragrammaton for the name consists of four Hebrew vows but wait here ooo doesn't have any vowels right wrong such sounds strange to our ears today because we have always been told that the tetragrammaton is four consonants and the vowels are missing and everyone runs around trying to find the missing vowels that just might not be exactly necessary since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls it was discovered that sometimes they yo da wah and sometimes the Allah were also used as vowel pointers in ancient Hebrew manuscripts this is rather interesting that each letter of the Tetragrammaton was also used as a vowel in ancient hebrew while the Dead Sea Scrolls are rather ancient and compelling as most manuscripts are over 2,000 years old the discovery of the luckiest letters dated to about 600 BCE further validates that they Yohei and wha being used as vows an ancient Hebrew that was over 2600 years ago while the occasional use of a constant as a vowel can be seen quite early in the inscriptions at this point the nature of the language the olive hey Yoda and wah were only used as vows not only occasionally at the end of the words but frequently even in the middle of the words to help the reader understand how to pronounce the words for example the Hebrew word for man is written with the yode in lines 9 through 10 though they were not yet vowels written for every syllable what this meant for readers of the Bible is that the common spellings in Hebrew at this point included not just a countenance of the words but in some places there were vows written also this made understanding the text and their reading out loud easier this helps us as well when we take Josephus into account treating the Tetragrammaton as vowels as according josephus their vocalization would be like this Yoda he-hey ah wha ooh hey a in sounding out these four vowels Yahweh the first two ya are equivalent to this syllable yeah the last two 'we are equal to the syllable way when all vowels are pronounced together it sounds like Yahweh or Yahweh the Greek transliteration also resembled this pronunciation as an iota Alpha Epsilon and another alpha pronounced as Yahweh so whether Josephus was referring to the Hebrew letters of the Tetragrammaton as being for vowels or referring to the Greek letters of the Tetragrammaton as being for miles guess what they're both pronounced as Yahweh Yahweh does not even sound close to yahuwah in fact it's not even the same number of syllables both the Hebrew Tetragrammaton as vowels or the Greek Tetragrammaton as Wells are both just two syllables how many syllables is yo ba 3 3 is not the same as to the pronunciation witness of Josephus which was penned hundreds and hundreds of years prior to the first manuscript that ever contained Jehovah is alarming evidence against Jehovah as a valid pronunciation the Hebrew grammar problem another way that we know that the vowel is included with the Tetragrammaton and aleppo and Leningrad codices are not the actual vows for the sacred name is by considering a particular rule Hebrew grammar if you aren't familiar with Hebrew grammar this can be a little technical but we'll try to simplify this as best that we can first in the aleppo and Leningrad codices the first letter that Tetragrammaton is he owed and the first vowel in the tetragrammaton attached to the letter y ode is Chava in Hebrew you have prepositions such as from oar to oar in that are attached to Hebrew words and in Hebrew grammar whenever an inseparable preposition is attached - a word beginning with the letter y ode that has a cheval vowel attached to it the chevelle val is dropped and also the vowel attached to the inseparable preposition here ik is then combined with the yo'd we can see this with the Hebrew word for Jerusalem Jerusalem here is how the word is spelled with the vows and the Aleppo and Leningrad codices notice the Shiva vowel under the yo'd which is this same vowel that is attached to the Y owed in the Tetragrammaton now here is what your salam looks like when the inseparable preposition from is attached to it as we find in second samuel 15 11 as you can see the shiva under the yo'd is dropped and then combined with the here equal under the letters mem which forms the preposition in the over 200 times that it prepositions attached to the word yerushalayim this grammatical rule is applied the Shiva is dropped and the yoke combines with the hereif out of the attached preposition what's interesting is that this grammatical rule not only applies to Yerushalayim but every Hebrew word that begins with a Yoda and as a Shiva as it's a vow therefore if the Shiva attached to the Yoda and the Tetragrammaton is in fact the actual vow and not a katieb hurray as we have proposed this same rule would be followed but what do we see when an inseparable preposition is attached to the Tetragrammaton something very telling and every instance where an inseparable preposition is attached to the Tetragrammaton the Shiva is dropped but not once this the yoke combined with a huge bow of the preposition rather instead of here eek the potaka file is used here is an example of this as we have in Exodus 13 12 as you can see the yoke combined with the Batak file under the low-mid that forms a preposition - this occurs every time when an inseparable preposition is attached to the Tetragrammaton a potaka file not a hurry is attached to the preposition here are four more passages in which this occurs so you can see for yourself 2334 jeremiah 3:23 jeremiah 4 verse 4 ezekiel 46 verse 13 but as we have said if the actual vowel under the yoda is a shiva has argued by proponents of the yellow bob pronunciation this shouldn't happen a hurry napa tuff is the vow that should be attached the inseparable preposition that's the first vowel of the tetragrammaton is not shiva according to the rules of Hebrew grammar but wait there's more not only does this prove that the first vowel that Tetragrammaton is not shiva but it in fact confirms our argument this scribes were using katieb karere whenever and inseparable preposition is attached to a word beginning with a guttural letter the pitaka FAL is attached to the letter that forms the preposition Yoda is not a guttural letter but Aleph is Aleph is the first letter of a tone I therefore the scribes were intending the reader to say Adonai by attaching to Batak Val to the inseparable preposition if they intended the reader to say Yehovah they would have attached a hurry not a potaka this is conclusive proof at that mastery scribes were using que te karere and not teaching us the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as it pertains to the position of Jehovah interestingly enough the prevailing Jewish Hebrew language scholar position is that it is one of the few pronunciations that actually cannot be correct to pronounce or not to pronounce does that mean we should not try to understand how to pronounce his name well we understand the reasoning of those who subscribe to such a position we don't think so we do not take issue with the pronouncing of the name and the way one believes it to possibly be pronounced like a child learning how to speak and learn his own father's name our Creator intentionally placed and revealed his name to us nearly 7,000 times in the Tanakh we are his children and we believe he smiles in our interest to attempt to not only understand but attempt to speak it those of you with children understand this someday we will all be equipped with certainty on this topic and until then let's all do the best that we were able with their reasoning afforded to us however to those who decide to not even attempt to pronounce the name we certainly do understand and respect that reasoning despite the material covered in this teaching we know and understand this sum will be adamant about the Yehovah pronunciation we would like to make clear that we believe that a person should pronounce the name as their studies lead them to say it this is one of those teachings that many may strongly disagree with as we have said in the past if you watch 119 ministries teachings long enough eventually there will be something that we say that is disagreeable to you or perhaps even offends you the only way for us to avoid anyone disagreeing with us or not offending others is for us to stop producing teachings instead when it comes to this topic and other hot-button topics like this we need to encourage healthy and kind discussions with all in the faith we are all going to be spending eternity together so let's be kind to each other so that we do not have to spend eternity apologizing to one another there is always the more pressing matter which is our focus bringing others into the faith and teaching others how to walk it out the best that we are able questions and answers controversial topics and teachings often produce questions questions are good it shows that people are interested in learning from each other and are engaged how horrible would it be if teachings did not cause discussion and questions while we have suggested a couple possibilities on the pronunciation of the name in this series we have not formed a teaching to extrapolate on all the data points that would form and reveal the pronunciation examples we have offered we have now found a pronunciation that does not have some possible valid criticisms more importantly as our Hashem series teachings on this subject indicate from the beginning it is our understanding that we cannot state with high confidence on how to now it's the name today we really only have high confidence on examples on how the name is not pronounced normally the agreement rate of 119 teachings range from about 70 to 80 percent depending on the subject matter because of its controversial and emotion trigger in nature we expected the agreement rate for this teaching subject to be on the lower end if not below average we were actually surprised to see the agreement rate to be above 80 percent regardless of the high agreement rate like other controversial subjects and teachings we have released in the past this is often helpful to follow up with any subsequent questions we received so we would like to take an opportunity to briefly answer some of the questions we have received specific to the material covered in this teaching so let's begin do you believe that God is powerful enough to preserve his holy name in his holy word for his holy people to whom he committed the Oracles of God absolutely his name Shem meaning character or authority is most certainly preserved in the word see Hashem part 1 for more information whether he preserved it or not pronunciation is another matter entirely while all understanding and proclaiming his name is certainly important to our Creator the timing of this occurring is through his timing not ours to assume that any lack of clarity on how to pronounce his name is due to some deficiency in the power of God is to assume we fully understand God's plan and timing with the world recognizing and proclaiming his name we are not so bold to declare that we fully understand God's mind on this matter we also would be concerned with any suggestion that the lack of any absolute clarity on how to pronounce the name should be interpreted as a mark against the power of God we have peace and confidence in knowing that some day according to the prophets at our Messiah's return that his name will be proclaimed by all when he causes it to happen not us this teaching claims that the aleppo codex is the oldest manuscript using the Yehovah spellings would it not be more accurate to state that the carioca decks prophets written by Moshe Ben Asher and the Year 895 ad would have been the first no not likely while that may have been understood to be true at one time and we considered this there is now compelling data that suggests a dating of the 11th century is more likely if not absolutely proven the more accurate dating of the 11th century would place the carrier codex of the prophets well after the aleppo and Leningrad codices because of this we are confident our statements and our teaching Hashem art for how is it known that it was prohibited to write the name correctly the usage of the perpetual katieb hurray for the tetragrammaton would be more than sufficient evidence we would recommend consulting highly accomplished peer-reviewed Jewish Hebrew scholars to assist in that quest we might suggest the following professor Stephen Fats Berg of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and professor Emanuel Tove of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in the world of Biblical Hebrew scholarship there are scholars and there are super scholars both fast Brook and Tove would qualify as Supra scholars for example Emanuel tous accomplishments in the field of Biblical Hebrew have placed him in the top point 5 percent in the world any suggestion by any individual that the master eats did not employ Katie of Caray and they're writing out of the Tetragrammaton would leave these scholars and similarly accomplished scholars absolutely stunned and not worthy of such a proponent of being taken seriously for example a response from fast burg related to his thoughts on jehovah yielded the following the pronunciation you mentioned is a mistake referring to a ova the hebrew continental text is yo da hua he notice he uses the wah and not the Bob and no one really knows how that was pronounced in Old Testament times at a later date the later half of 2nd millennium CE II macerates added vows science to the Continental text whenever the tetragrammaton was written they added the vowel science of the word Adonai which means my lord there was a taboo on pronouncing the Divine Name and one was supposed to read the word Adonai my lord much later some started reading the vile science together with Yoda Hawaii and came up with a nonsensical word Jehovah or yoga as another example Emmanuel tove mentions that the master is used a perpetual Caray and reference to the tetragrammaton speaking of the Septuagint and relating back to the macerates process he mentions the employment of Cabrillo in that translation for the tetragrammaton probably reflects this same custom that was later reflected in the Masoretic perpetual Caray the world's top Hebrew peer-reviewed scholars would agree that the presence of JB yaho B Java and Yehovah spellings in the aleppo and Leningrad codices are not pronunciations but instead que te karere so while we cannot definitively prove how to pronounce the name of our Creator we can declare with confidence that yay B Yahoo V Java and Yehovah are all eliminated as valid possibilities there are some today mass promoting an idea that the Aleppo and Leningrad codices actually contain the name of the creator due to several instances of scribal air it is then taught that at the Tetragrammaton is written as a scribal air that the name can now be blotted out it is supposedly through this process that the correct pronunciation of the name was revealed many times in the aleppo and Leningrad codices and is consequently available to us today how would you respond to this claim this is a good question we presented this question to Manuel tope of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem he then instructed us to contact Jordan spen tower at the Berlin University as perhaps a world's most equipped individual to be able to answer such a question here is the response by Jordan S Pen tower in the Middle Ages we find two options number one the scribe drew a rectangle around the Tetragrammaton to signify its erasure and they wrote the correct word above it or in the margin number to describe cut out the Tetragrammaton and attached another small piece of parchment and wrote the correct word on the replacement patch as to the idea noted below speaking of Jehovah there is never an end to hypothetical conjectures they remain as such in this we learn two things first in the rare instance that is scribal air did contain an air related to the tetragrammaton there were two possible means that could be employed to address the air one of these ways involved cutting the name out and replacing a version of the tetragrammaton without an air so to say that yahuveh as a valid pronunciation was accidentally written several times and it was then forced to be left in the codices is an invalid understanding secondly the idea that a true pronunciation is found in the aleppo and Leningrad codices is referred to as only hypothetical conjecture meaning an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information what exactly is the lacking information not applied in the forming of yay ho ba as the valid pronunciation of the name it is the reality that the spellings of the tetragrammaton found in the Aleppo and Leningrad codices are not pronunciations but instead the usage of que te karere the Talmud says that we are not to say the name as written but in the kingdom to come we will say the name as written wouldn't this indicate that yay hö ba is a valid pronunciation as it is written we would agree that in the coming kingdom messiahs return Messiah Yeshua will clarify how to pronounce the Tetragrammaton as it is currently written this does not indicate that the mention of as it is written refers to one of the several written variant spellings found in macerate texts there are also other manuscripts in which the Tetragrammaton is written without more modern man-made vowel pointing more importantly it should be noted that the talmud suggests that it will be in the coming kingdom that will be pronouncing the name which agrees with the prophets because there is no tore up prohibition in the pronunciation of the name and it is in the coming kingdom that all in the faith will be proclaiming his name we suggest that there is no real way with confidence to rush his timing on when this will occur in the teaching it is stated that in every instance where an inseparable preposition is attached to the tetragrammaton they Shiva is dropped but not once as the yoke combined with a hairy growl of the preposition instead of here eek the potaka vowel is used are there instances of logic OVA and the codices where the yo'd retains the shiva and the l'm ed is pointed with the Batak can 119 really claim that the shiva is always dropped first of all we do maintain that we are correct in our statement that in the context of the Aleppo and Leningrad codices the grammatical rule is always followed that is the Shiva under the Yoda is dropped and the Yoda combines with the vow of the preposition or Bob conjunction other examples and later manuscripts can be found not the Aleppo and Leningrad codices where the Shiva is not dropped here is an example that is often offered and it is perhaps as late as the 16th century and it is using entirely different vowel pointings and accents than what we find in the Benesh or manuscripts thus such an example is not very helpful for the Yehovah opposition as it is so far removed on the timeline from the Aleppo and Leningrad codices the prefix yaho is often found in Hebrew names when this indicate with certainty that yaho is a valid component of the pronunciation of the name the essence of this question is founded on one of the most convincing and supportive arguments for the Yehovah pronunciation at least on this surface ultimately what we find is that the evidence shows that yaho is not likely a component of our creator's name first let's examine why some understandably believe yaho might be a component of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as one example our Messiah's name is Yeshua and it comes from a fuller Hebrew name yahushua schewe means salvation it literally means that yaho is salvation and most understand that the yaho points back to the Tetragrammaton of our creator's name as Yoda Hawaii or in modern Hebrew yo hey Bob hey therefore the argument goes yaho must be part of our creators name there exists a short list of Hebrew names that begin with yaho each of these names are theophoric meaning the yaho component of each name refers back to the Tetragrammaton this leads some to believe that our creators name must include yaho as a component of the pronunciation of the name it is a logical conclusion because the Aleppo and Leningrad codices include a spelling of the tetragrammaton that includes yaho as yaho b and yaho ba and because Yakko ba appears more often some have said that's it that's the pronunciation of the name Jehovah however we have already reviewed in this teach and how we know that the massroots were not revealing the pronunciation of our creator's name either purposefully or on accident it was simply katieb Caray but what about yaho being theophoric is there any value to that as being a component of our creator's name perhaps but for at least two reasons it is not likely it is easy to see where yaho would fit as part of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton yaho contains a yoda and a hey the tetragrammaton is yo hey wha hey begins with a Yoda and a hey thus some have reasonably suggested that the yaho is the first part of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton taking the place of the Yoda and the hey the problem is that yaho is not the only component of Hebraic theophoric names there also exists yeah or Yahoo at the end of many names that also point back to the Tetragrammaton for example Eliyahu or Elijah ends in Yahoo in English the L stands for God and Yahoo points back to our creator as part of the Tetragrammaton in essence it means yahoo is God or God is whoo-yah or yahoo also both contain a Yoda and a hey as already mentioned the Tetragrammaton is Yoda Hawaii begins with a code and a hey thus some have reasonably suggested that the Yahoo or Yahoo is the first part of the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton taking the place of the Yoda and the hay both yay ho and Yao or Yahoo are considered theophoric in this regard and function in a similar way interestingly enough unlike yaho yah also stands alone in the Tanakh as referring to our creators name to see this in the Hebrew an example would be Psalm 68 verse 4 many are also familiar with Hallelujah which literally means praise yah the component of yow once again referring back to the Tetragrammaton the full name of our Creator all of this shows that the Scriptures place much more emphasis on Yahoo or Yahoo as a component of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton instead of yaho in the effort to discern the proper pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton the presence of both Yahoo or Yahoo and also yaho has frustrated many both are used at theophoric Manor they're used in the same way and both also contain a Yoda and a hey as the first two letters of the Tetragrammaton both cannot be correct so in the pronunciation debate one has been forced to adopt one and discard the other this should make a person uneasy because regardless of which one is chosen one has to be discarded either yaho or yah and Yahoo the discerning heart and mind might be inclined to believe that there's a bigger problem here and we are inclined to agree we should not have to choose between yaho or yah and Yahoo we see several Greek sources also pointing to Yahoo or Yahoo as a component of the name most importantly this was well before the macerates invented yeah B yaho B Java and Yoba as just KTV are a references to the Tetragrammaton which seemed to confuse many centuries down the road so what is going on here is it yay hö or yeah / Yahoo doesn't it strike you as odd that both yaho and Yahoo are theophoric we are not aware of anyone really solving this problem so the problem simply exists and the debate between yaho and Yahoo just rages on why do both yaho and Yahoo exist as theophoric names both cannot be right how does it even make sense it doesn't make sense but guess what there appears to be a solution how many are aware that languages are not static geographical seclusion influenced by other languages the nature of time and other factors eventually produce different dialects of the same language so words and names can be similar but not pronounced exactly the same sometimes these changes in dialects become dominant and the former pronunciations can die out many Hebrew names are pronounced slightly differently we already gave one example with Yeshua as the shortened formed of yahushua some hebrew dialect differences are widely known such as the wah vs. the Bob which we cover earlier in this series there are countless other examples that can be found in the scriptures as both words or names so let's bring this a little closer to home we can also easily see differences even in our own language English Great Britain South Africa Jamaica United States and Austria are all examples of countries that speak English however the variance between how different words and names are pronounced can be quite extreme at times it can be even difficult to understand another person who is supposedly speaking English even in the United States there is Boston English New Orleans English southern English New Jersey English you can often tell where someone is from the United States by how various English words are pronounced do you see where we're going with this as it relates to yaho versus the yah or yahoo problem you might be thinking wait what are you suggesting there should not be a debate of yaho versus yas slash yahoo at all then at one time there was only one valid Thea for a component of Hebrew names and words that perhaps the instances of yah or Yahoo should be all yaho or all the yay hö should be Yahoo yes that is what we are suggesting allow us to further clarify what would be fantastic is if the prefix da ho also agreed with this suffix of yah slash Yahoo and both the prefixes and the suffixes were both yaho then there would be little debate as to the value of yo as inclusive of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton the alternate is also true it would be fantastic if this suffix yah slash Yahoo also agreed with the prefix of yaho and both the prefixes and suffixes were both Yas slash Yahoo in this case there would also be little debate as to the value of yo / Yahoo as inclusive of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton then we wouldn't have to choose between the two so if this was indeed a dialect change that occurred then it would have had to have occurred at least a couple thousand years ago as the usages of yaho and Yahoo Yahoo are all rather universal among Hebrew dialects as a component of the affordance this dialect change would have had to occur before the house of Judah or Jews were scattered around the world we would have to find evidence of this phonetic evolution occurring over 2,000 years ago and actually we do here is something interesting that could resolve the yaho and Yahoo contradiction in ancient Kanaya form it has been discovered that ancient theophoric names of those of Israel actually began with not yay ho but Yahoo let us say that again in ancient Kanaya form it has been discovered that ancient theophoric names of those of Israel actually began with not yay ho but Yahoo so all Hebrew names that began with yaho today began with Yahoo instead at least 2500 years ancient cuneiform is unique as the first written language to contain vowels this would mean that there should be no debate between yaho and yo slash yahoo that just yeah slash yahoo is the eff work yaho would just be a mistake stemming from natural phonetic evolution the morass to archive dated at 500 BCE from ancient Babylonia which serve as an example of this contained within it is a long list of business transactions with Israelites and guess what now we have an extremely ancient record with ancient vow pointing of how ancient Hebrews pronounced theophoric names in the ancient cuneiform texts each theophoric name actually begins with Yahoo instead of yaho there is a limitation to the canal form however there is no o in the language so in isolation it actually could have been Yahoo instead of Yahoo however since the Masoretic text already offer Yahoo as a valid suffix and second witness then Yahoo would then appear as the most probable we see the same agreement in ancient Greek texts which also contained vowels as a third witness so what this means is that this example and other examples are overwhelming evidence of a Hebrew theophoric named dialect change that occurred over 2500 years ago while this sheds doubt on the validity of yaho as a valid pronunciation as it was possibly the result of ancient dialect evolution it is interesting that if the ancient Konya forum serves as any phonetic value then all the theophoric prefixes and suffixes actually agree as yah / yahoo the conflict is solved this information was not available into the 19th century we are talking about a possible dialect or phonetic change that appears to have occurred thousands of years ago largely when the house of Judah was still intact under Babylonian rule we are not talking about a change that occurred when Judah was extremely scattered like it has been post 70 AD so this would explain why we do not see yahoo today as a prefix like we do 2500 years ago but only as a suffix changes that occurred while Judah was extremely scattered would indeed result in phonetic differences in different groups as already mentioned a good and popular example would be the wah bors's the Bob debate in that light we would expect unity in phonetic evolution while Judah was still for the most part United and that is the point in history in which this change actually appears to have occurred according to historical evidences while many biblical hebrew words have remained stable because of the ancient Hebrew texts that retained consonants even in the scriptures themselves we see how earlier writings and later writings spelled words slightly differently how much more true is the possibility for phonetic evolution for vowels when the vowels were not insulated from societal influence over time through written preservation meaning this vowels of course in Hebrew were more susceptible to phonetic evolution leading to different dialects because the written ancient Hebrew language does not contain vowels all evidence points to the fact that Yayo is a more modern dialect constructor right from phonetic evolution and that yah or yahoo is the more ancient component of pronouncing the Tetragrammaton the ancient coneja form evidence shows over and over that in judah the early pre-exilic form was yahoo while the much later post-exilic form was Yayo or yay-hay and while we are sure that is a difficult pill to swallow for some the compelling evidence is there it is at this point that some might challenge deriving phonetics from ancient non-hebrew cultures however these are ancient ears that were able to hear ancient pronunciations of theophoric Hebrew names and not only that write them in their own language with vowels if we were to write Eliyahu using English letters does it not sound about the same as if it was written in Hebrew if we were to write hallelujah using English letters does it not sound about the same as if it was written in Hebrew of course it does in the same way ancient languages could ethically record hebrew words and names reasonably accurately in their own languages there are no good reasons to ignore such evidences in fact such evidences actually solve some problems and properly applying the value of theophoric names it solves the contradiction 119 ministries does not subscribe to a strong position on how the name is pronounced we hope that it is understood that that is for good reason as discussed earlier in this teaching series we do attempt to go where the evidence leads and we do see many attempting to do the same is an admirable effort despite the differences in conclusions the only concern we would raise is objecting to the anger and divisive nasai to different presentations on this subject we believe there is likely a reason the Prophet said that nations will not know the name until your shoe is returned and may that day be sooner than later and praise yah for that day we hope that some of the questions and answers were helpful in regards to this often challenging topic we hope that this teaching has blessed you and remember continue to test everything shallow [Music] it is because of you our generous supporters who make it possible to offer these high-quality teachings completely free of charge if you feel led to support 119 ministries so that we can continue this effort please visit test everything dotnet 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Published: Tue Aug 07 2018