>> Katie: MORE PROOF THAT NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED. A COLORADO SUPERMARKET EMPLOYEE I'M STILL BEEN LET GO FROM HIS JOB AFTER REPORTING THREE MEN STEALING $500 WORTH OF LAUNDRY DETERGENT. SPEAK A LOOK AT THEM STEALING. REALLY, BRO? YOU'VE GOT TO RESORT TO THIS? THE ECONOMY IS NOT THAT BAD. BETTER GET IT WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD. >> Katie: THE WORKER CLAIMS HE DID NOT PHYSICALLY TOUCH THE LAUNDRY LOOTERS IN ANY WAY. TWO OF THE CROOKS GOT AWAY CLEAN BUT ONE HAS SINCE BEEN ARRESTED AND THAT IS THANKS TO HIM AFTER HE REVEALED THEIR LICENSE PLATE THAT WAS HIDDEN BEHIND TINFOIL, AND YET HE WAS STILL FIRED SINCE THE SUPERMARKET BANS EMPLOYEES FROM CHASING THIEVES. THE GROCERY STORE TELLING A LOCAL STATION "WE HAVE SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE TO HELP PREVENT CRIME AND DE-ESCALATE SUCH TO MINIMIZE RISK TO OUR ASSOCIATES. WHILE WE ARE UNABLE TO COMMENT ON PERSONNEL MATTERS, WE VALUE OUR HARDWORKING ASSOCIATES AND THEIR SAFE RETURN HOME." JUDGE, COMPANIES HAVE THESE POLICIES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE LIABILITY IF SOMEONE GETS HURT IN THIS SITUATION, BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS VIDEO EVIDENCE TO PROVE WHO IS DOING THE CRIME, RIGHT? SO HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO THAT IF YOU CAN'T TAKE VIDEO? >> Jeanine: I GUESS IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE POLICY -- AND THIS IS APPARENTLY, THIS MARKET IS PART OF KROGER'S, THE POLICY AS THEY DO NOT CHASE THIEVES OR INTERVENE IN A THEFT. I THINK YOU SHOULD SUE FOR HIS JOB -- AND BY THE WAY, I AM HOSTING JESSE TONIGHT AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS GUY WHO IS FIRED ON THE SHOW TONIGHT, AND THE TRUTH IS THAT HE DID THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY A FAVOR, HE DID THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY A FAVOR. HE HAD THE RIGHT, IN FACT, UNDER THE LAW IN COLORADO TO MAKE A CITIZES ARREST, SO HE COULD HAVE DONE ALL OF THAT PURELY DOESN'T SEEM HE CONTRAVENES THE POLICY. I MEAN, THEY ARE PUNISHING HIM. WE ARE LIVING IN AN UPSIDE DOWN WORLD WHERE IF YOU WORK FOR LULULEMON, I MEAN, THEY END UP FIRING YOU, IF YOU EVEN SAY SOMETHING TO PEOPLE TAKING THINGS. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LET THEM LEAVE. TO WHAT END? IT MAKES NO SENSE. I THINK THAT THIS GUY NOT ONLY HAS A JOB -- BY THE WAY, THESE PEOPLE CAN BE PROSECUTED, A MISDEMEANOR, 120 DAYS IN JAIL AND $500 FINE. >> Katie: GREG, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE STOLEN MORE. >> Greg: YES, I AM ACTUALLY HAVING THE LOOTERS ON MY SHOW TONIGHT. YOU KNOW IT IS FUNNY? THE OTHER OBVIOUS FILM KNOW MY POINT IS IF HE HAD NOT FILMED IT, WE NEVER WOULD HAVE SEEN IT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY WITNESS THESE THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS ERA SO WE CAN TELL PEOPLE THIS IS NOT NORMAL, THIS HAPPENS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. DURING THE SOHO LOOTING, MY WIFE CLIMBED OUT ONTO THE SCAFFOLDING AND RECORDED THE LOOTERS, GOT THE CARS AND EVERYTHING, AND SHE DID IT AND GAVE IT ALL TO THE COPS. YOU ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO SAVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU ARE DOING THIS, AND I THINK LEGAL REASONS, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. THERE IS A WEIRD THING WHERE WE LAUD PEOPLE FOR FILMING SO MANY THINGS, FIGHTING IN AN AIRPORT, YELLING AT A BURGER KING. IN THIS CASE, IT IS NOT ENTERTAINMENT. ALL OF THAT STUFF IS ENTERTAINMENT, IT IS FINE, BUT IF IT ACTUALLY HAS SOME KIND OF MORAL VALUE, YOU CAN GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT. THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU HAVE TO INTERVENE WHEN NO ONE ELSE IS DOING ANYTHING. WE SEE THIS ON THE SUBWAY, THAT IS HOW HUMAN BEINGS REACT. WE SEE A VACANCY AND WE WANT TO FILL IT. IF THE POLICE CAN'T DO IT OR SECURITY CAN'T DO IT, YOU WILL DO IT. WHICH LEADS ME TO A SUGGESTION. THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT COULD END THIS RIGHT NOW. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, DECRIMINALIZING THEFT, RIGHT? THAT MEANS STEALING FROM THEM IS ALSO DECRIMINALIZED, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IF YOU HAVE A SUPERMARKET OR ANY KIND OF STORE, YOU HAVE THESE GUYS THAT JUST HANG OUT AND THEY WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO LEAVE AND THEN THEY TAKE THEIR STUFF AND GET LIKE 10%. >> Charlie: GET A POSSE. >> Greg: BASICALLY A PRODUCT POSSE. THEY HANG OUT, LET'S SAY THEY TAKE $500 WORTH OF STUFF, $50 IF THEY TAKE THE STUFF FROM THEM. IT ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN FOR KIDS, FOR A SUMMER JOB, HANG OUT, YOU KNOW, -- >> Charlie: SO MANY PEOPLE BEATEN UP. >> Greg: IF I GET ONE PERSON BEATEN UP, CHARLIE, I HAVE DONE MY JOB. I GUESS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, IF THIS IS LEGAL, WHY CAN'T TAKING THAT STUFF AWAY FROM THAT BE LEGAL? >> Katie: GO STEAL IT BACK? >> Greg: YES. >> Katie: IT IS TRUE, IF YOU ARE AN HOURLY WORKER TRYING TO MAKE AN HOURLY LIVING, I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN NEW YORK CITY, PEOPLE COME IN AND STEAL EVERY DAY, WHAT IS THE POINT? >> Charlie: ACTUALLY LOVE THAT IDEA. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. YOU WANT ARMED PEOPLE TO DO IT. >> Greg: NOT MY IDEA, BUT -- >> Charlie: BUT IT IS AMAZING THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS CONCERN ABOUT LIABILITY, WHERE IT SORTS OF CUTS AGAINST THE EMPLOYEES, WHAT ABOUT THE LIABILITY FOR THE EMPLOYEES? THE LEGAL TERM IS ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE, BY HAVING A STORE THAT DOESN'T ENFORCE SHOPLIFTING, DOESN'T ENFORCE THIS KIND OF THEFT. AREN'T YOU ENDANGERING YOUR EMPLOYEES? AND WHY CAN'T EMPLOYEES GET TOGETHER, AND I WOULD THINK -- I THINK IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT YOU HAVE, EVEN IF YOU'RE AT WORK, TO BE ABLE TO BE SAFE IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT, TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT YOURSELF. >> Jeanine: DEFEND YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO IT, BUT DOES THAT INCLUDE STOPPING OTHER PEOPLE? OF COURSE NOT. >> Charlie: THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO CLOSE DOORS DOWN AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> Katie: I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP, A NEW YORK CITY OR OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE THINGS ARE LOCKED UP, GOING SHOPPING AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SUCKS. YOU ARE GOING TO ORDER ON AMAZON, EVERY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ASK EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO GT OUT OF THE STORE. >> Jessica: IT MAKES PEOPLE NOT CARE ABOUT WHERE THEY LIVE. I'M NOT SAYING WE ALL HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN CO-OPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YOU ARE INVESTED IN YOUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THAT IS WHY YOU BUY HOMES THERE. HOWEVER IT IS YOU ARE LIVING THERE, YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO BE WALKING SAFELY AROUND THE STREETS, EVEN IF IT IS A CHAIN, LIKE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU ARE SAFE, AND ALSO HAVE A DECENT SHOPPING EXPERIENCE. I WENT TO MY LOCAL CVS TO GET SOME ICE CREAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ANTI-AMERICAN STUFF I LIKE, THE BEN & JERRY'S. AND IT IS LOCKED UP NOW. IT IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT. >> Jeanine: THROW AWAY THE KEY. >> Jessica: I SAID, WHY THE ICE CREAM, RIGHT? IS EMBARRASSING, AFTER CALL YOU EVERY DAY I NEED ANOTHER PINT. IT IS SO HOT OUT. WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING WITH ICE CREAM, YOU ARE STEALING A TON OF ICE CREAM AND IT WILL BE MELTED BY THE CORNER. >> Greg: POLICY MEET CONSEQUENT THIS, JESSICA. IT IS THE THINGS YOU BELIEVE IN THAT HAS BROUGHT YOU TO THIS MOMENT IN LIFE WHERE YOU ARE CRYING ABOUT YOUR ICE CREAM! >> Jessica: FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS, BUT TIDE PODS ARE ALSO LOCKED UP BEER I'M JUST SAYING NOTHING IS FUN ANYMORE. >> Greg: THAT'S TRUE. >> Jessica: I THINK THERE IS A BIT OF A TURNING POINT COMING OUT. THE PHILADELPHIA D.A., KRASNER, WAS APOPLECTIC AND SO DISTRAUGHT OVER THIS SHOOTING IN PHILLY OVER THE WEEKEND. I THINK YOU SEE THESE CHANGES WITH -- >> Jeanine: WHO DID HE BLAME IT ON? WHO DID LARRY KRASNER BLAME THE SHOOTING ON? NOT THE SHOOTERS. ON THE PEOPLE WEARING PINS. I MEAN, THE GUY IS CLUELESS. AS A D.A. THAT IS THE END OF IT. >> Jessica: WELL, IT'S NOT, I CAN STILL FINISH WHAT I HAD TO SAY. THE POINT IS I THINK THERE IS BECOMING A SLOW ACKNOWLEDGMENT AMONG SOME OF THESE LIBERAL POLITICIANS THAT YOU WILL NOT LOSE FAVOR OR SUPPORT, YOU WILL IN FACT GAIN IT IF YOU CALL THINGS OUT THAT ARE GOING ON, LIKE FOR LONDON BREED, D.A. KRASNER, WE SAW IN SAN FRANCISCO -- >> Greg: ISN'T THAT SAD THAT THAT IS HOW YOU MEASURE IT? >> Jeanine: YOU HAVE TO -- >> Greg: NOW WE WILL DO IT BECAUSE I THINK WE WON'T GET CRITICIZED. YOU SHOULD BE DOING IT BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY YOU ARE WILLING TO SAVE YOUR COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST BECAUSE IT IS A POPULAR THING FOR YOU CRAZY PROGRESSIVE COMMUNISTS.
