(dramatic music) - Several weeks ago Nehemia Gordon started a firestorm when he
released what he had found more than 18 years earlier. While searching the microfilm archives at Hebrew University, that's when he first came
across the Hebrew Gospels. Not only was he looking
for the Hebrew Matthew, but he found other gospels
that no one had looked at these manuscripts before. When he took the microfilm
back to the librarian after finding the Hebrew
Gospels, these other gospels, the librarian asked him a question, did you find anything
interesting in that microfilm? And he didn't wanna answer
because he did not know who knew about this, and
he said to the librarian, why do you ask? And the librarian says that no one has ever checked that out. No one had ever seen this
documentation before. He was the first one to
look at it because anything that is done in Hebrew in
the Gospels this is of no concern to Hebrew scholars
for the most part. And it's of no concern
to Christian scholars because they have stood on
the ground that the Gospels were all done in Greek and
all the scholarship has been done in Greek,
and even though we have 250,000 variations in the
5000 Greek manuscripts that exist, and there are
questions that are posed that were not answerable
until the ancient Hebrew text of the Gospel of Matthew came out. And so there are literally
treasures that have been hidden for hundreds, yes for now, more
than 1000 years, 2000 years, that our guest on this
program has been deciphering and tracing these things back
and so I've asked, Miles Jones to come back. He's a PhD in linguistics,
a PhD in education, and he is the one that
deciphered the code, the writing of God that is
at Mount Sinai and Miles, it's good to have you back with us. - It's good to be here.
(applause) - And I'm excited about this,
what you're doing right now. I know that you're in
the middle of writing a book at this point. And when we talked on the phone you decided that it was more important to get this message out than to wait for the
completion of the book and I appreciate that. I wanna have you back on
when the book is completed and for you to continue
this adventure, because this is only just begun at this point. - Well thanks for that, I appreciate it. I will be back, there will be more. There will be more. I had prophesied a long time ago that when I started this five years ago that once the cat was out of the bag the Hebrew Gospels were out there all the libraries and
churches and museums that are sitting on copies of it, because it is a forbidden manuscript, remember the Messianic
Church has been hunted to extinction they thought, and the Hebrew Gospels were
targeted for extinction because they were a threat to
the authority of the church. To Greek primacy, to Greek
scripture to the Greek Church, to Latin primacy to the Latin
Church, the Roman Church. So it has been targeted,
but you know, the church is a spiritual battleground. There were a lot of people
that did not agree with that and they hid their copies
in the sub, sub basement if you will. In fact the Hebrew Gospels
that I am translating and have been for the past five years they were bound beneath
100 page document in Hebrew called, The Tales of Sendebar so unless you read the first hundred pages you didn't realize there
was a Hebrew Gospels there of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. - It was underneath that, under the pages. It was all bound together, a
codex that was bound together and so this is just overlooked. - For 500 years, in the belly of the best. In the Vatican itself
and I really believe that attitudes changed after the holocaust. There's been a lot more openness
on the part of the church. They're not threatened anymore by this. Which is good, it's
progressive, it's good, give them credit where credit is due. They have been open about this. The Vatican has released
this document to me so I could study it and other documents that we're talking about. It's been so exciting the
past few weeks because they're starting to pop up
like flowers in the spring exactly like I said, once
the cat is out of the bag there's no reason to sit on these valuable documents anymore that were
forbidden by the church. Now, the Vatican leading the way, that is starting to happen. So Nehemia and I have been busy. Nehemia was studying the oldest manuscript of the Hebrew Gospels, the
Shem Tob manuscript of Matthew. And I was studying the second
oldest about 100 years later but done in the same
area of Spain, Catalan or ancient Sepharad and when
we got our energies together it was pretty, pretty. Lots of sparks were flying. - We have from the Vatican
Library, we actually have the photographs of the manuscripts and we're working right
now to get the permission for publication so that
everyone can have these. Nehemia is working on
this in an attempt to do a coffee table book to
where we not only have the photographs on parchment as far as the Gospels
are concerned, but also the modern transcription
and the modern translation. He's already been working on
this in the book of revelation from the British Library
for believers to have it. Especially Messianic
Jews in this generation to have those ancient
documents reproduced, have this on the coffee table. This is going to open up
so many incredible doors. - The most incredible is
the truth of the word, the sacred word of God. I always tell people, that
question always comes up, what difference does it
make whether it's written in Greek or in Hebrew? And I say it doesn't make any difference unless you care about
the truth of the word. You know, everything gets filtered through another language, another
culture, a whole 'nother way of thinking through Greek thought. In fact, your sure the
messiah himself becomes a Greek philosopher. The differences are significant. - Right, from that perspective, from that inaccurate perspective. We have to admit that we
have most of the Gospels and most of the translation
have come from Greek but the first thing we have to understand that even though these are Greek words, this is not a Greek culture. It has to be interpreted and understood through a Hebraic understanding and that's the only way it can be done. We have so many things,
the unsolvable mysteries in the Greek that are
translated over to English that translators and modern
readers just gloss over, they read right by, they know
that they don't understand it, but they don't go back to
the simplest understanding that everyone to whom it
was originally addressed, they understood this
with absolute clarity. - Right, well since the
beginning of Christianity, since the beginning of the
textural history of the bible they have been correcting
it from the Hebrew Gospels, in the beginning. But then once it was translated into Greek and then into Latin,
they wanted to get rid of the Hebrew because it was
a threat to the authority of the church. - Right, and there are
so many points of clarity in the Hebrew version of the Gospels and what we see in the Vatican. - Right, there are differences. - In the first pages of Luke, what do we find that is just about universally denied now, even among the Messianic Judaism cult, you know the people that tried to attach rabbinic Judaism and make
a Messianic version of it. They wanna say that the name
of Yahovah was not known and no one spoke that. And here we see in the gospel of Luke, Yod Hey Vav Hey, with
all the vowel pointings. - That is the latest
manuscript to come out and it's a new one, and
it's highly significant that the Messianics,
because whenever you see Hebrew gospel, we're
talking Messianic scribes, because the Judiac church-- - That's an important thing to-- - They were being prosecuted
for this by the Christians so they were burning the
Hebrew Gospels and the Gentile Church, the Greek
Church and the Roman Church, they were burning the
Gospels and the people along with it that held to those ideas. The Messianic Church was targeted, was persecuted for 2000 years and the Hebrew Gospels were
targeted for extinction so the story has been that,
supposedly all the authors of the books in the new
testament were Hebrews, right? But yet, however we're expected to believe that every single original manuscript was written in Greek? Does that make any sense? - Not even according to
the early church fathers. They admit it. Hebrews was written in Hebrew, duh. - And Matthew was written in Hebrew. We have to ignore all of
that, you know because we're buying into a spin. We're buying into a narrative
of the Greek Church, of Greek primacy of scripture, and that just won't hold up. It's spin. Spin was not invented in this century. It's been with us a long time, but they could enforce it with the power of capital punishment. If you didn't go on what they said you would burn at the
stake and your manuscripts along with you. So the manuscripts
themselves, the Hebrew Gospels are the primary landmark,
the primary markers of the greatest story never told. The survival of the
Messianic Church underground throughout 2000 years. They marked where it
happened and what happened because only Messianic
scribes are gonna be, 'cause they're risking their lives, you'd be burned at the stake for this. Not only it was absolutely
against church doctrine, it was mortal sin to translate the bible into the vernacular, into he language, that would be Hebrew of course, or Romant or any of the languages of the people that wanted to read the bible. - And that continued on down, right down even the translation over into English. They were burning people at the stake, they were executing them for
trying to get the language of the bible into the common
(speaks in foreign language) what everyone spoke on the street. - Even just for reading it
in the vernacular language you could be burned at
the stake and you were. - You imagine what it was and that's why they thought
that all of the extent copies of Matthew had been
obliterated by the time of Diocletian - They certainly tried, however this is-- - Right, and that was what was thought and they tried to lay that thing out, that that's what happened,
but we know that the persecution by Rome to
obliterate these manuscripts, you know that was a very real thing. - Oh absolutely. - That thousands, tens of
thousands, hundreds of thousands of believers lost their lives for trying to maintain, and so that's
why I say every word, even in King James, this is
not to be treated lightly. This was written in blood. - Yes, it is. Probably about a million
Christians had been martyred by the church itself over that time. They say, church history
says, that the persecution of the Christians ended with Constantine, but that is a totally false statement. It just morphed, and now
it was the church itself that was executing fellow congregants in order to achieve
doctoral purity, right. In order to be, to win
the doctrinal lottery 'cause the church whose doctrine won out was gonna sit in the seat of power over all the churches of the earth, that's what they thought. - That's right, and that's why the pope, or it was Constantine who named himself, Pontifex Maximus which is
the title of the high priest of Paganism, but then it went from there to where he was almighty
God upon the earth. He was the vicar vicariously Christ. - [Miles] Right. - Almighty God upon the
earth, and his authority is not to be challenged. - He called himself the 13th appostille. In fact he created a huge
church with 12 coffins around his where he was the leader or symbolic of the leader
in place of the messiah. And he tried to get the
remains of all the apostles to put in these coffins. The hubris is pretty breathtaking, right. But all kings claimed their authority by divine right, so why
should we be surprised that Christianity was used in this way? And Eusebius tried to create this myth. He was the one Eusebius
of Caesarea who was a, a flunky I guess is the
word of Constantine. He wrote the life of Constantine, he wrote the history of the
church, he wrote the book in praise of Constantine-- - Now he was the bishop of Constantine, he was a flunky of the truth. - Right, but he created the
three and a half year ministry which had never been thought of before which you talked about in
The Chronological Gospels and proved definitively
that it could not have been a three and a half years ministry. - Right. - It was a one 70 week ministry. - And that's something
that you spent a great deal of time researching on,
because it took me 20 years to ferret that thing out. It is impossible to put
together the Gospels with a three and a half year ministry, it's nonsense. - It contradicts the testimony
of the other three Gospels. And even in John, they never
mention any of these things more than one time. If it was three and a half years you would have four Passovers. You'd have three Sukkots. You would have all of these
and they never mention more than one time. It was clearly a one year Gospel. John 6:4 was an insertion,
mistakenly by a Greek copyist or perhaps by Eusebius
himself to promulgate this three and a half
year ministry because it signaled the end times. When the messiah would
return he would rule over all the nations of the earth and would end the
persecution of Christians. Well, who did that? - Constantine.
- Constantine. - So he's the vicar of Christ
who's finally returned. Returned to his throne in Rome, not in Jerusalem, but in Rome to rule over mankind. - But he was not the messiah,
he was a false messiah because he took the bishops
up on a tall mountain top, symbolically, and said if
you will just bow down to me I will make the church the
premier religion of the world, and they bowed down to him, right. And that's what happened
and at that point-- - That was Satan took
Yeshua up to a high peak and said bow down to me
and all these kingdoms will be yours. - That's exactly my point,
that's exactly my point. So what did Constantine
do that we know he was a false messiah? Well, up until then the Messianic Church and later the Nazarene Church
and the Apostolic Church were a part of the Judaic religion. All Christians, whether
they're Jews or Gentiles were really considered a part of Judaism. It was a sect of Judaism,
it was accepted as such. It was Constantine who
finally finalized the divorce. It had growing antisemitism,
Constantine affected the divorce, from now on
all Messianic believers, Jewish or otherwise, would
be considered heretics. They would be burned, and
their books would be burned along with them, and that is
the pattern that they pursued for the next 2000 years of persecution of the Messianic Church, but they failed to extinguish it. The church has survived,
they sparked the reformation, they also sparked the
renaissance because they had put, well they had forbidden
really, the study of Hebrew and the study of Greek,
so how did they do that? So we lost all the Greek masterpieces that formed the model
of western civilization. That's why they called it the dark ages. They came back in from the east,
through Arabic translations that were translated by Messianic scribes in the Messianic Church, the resurgent Messianic Church in Spain. So it played a huge part
in sparking the renaissance and the reformation so it was, the church has been there all along. It's been a really important
factor in the survival of the true word, because they had gospels that they held on to
outside of the long arm, the grip, of the Roman Church which was trying its
best to burn them all. And how would they do that? 'Cause they don't know Hebrew, right? They don't even want
anybody studying Hebrew so how would they do that? Well, they just burnt
all Hebrew manuscripts. So for a period literally of 1000 years, from the time or Yeshua Hamashiach, there were no Hebrew manuscripts. Now remember, this is
from a society that's been the most literate society in history. The Jews, right? And the Messianic Jews had the
same educational tradition. No Hebrew manuscripts at all. Zero, zip for 1000 years,
they were all burned, right. Until the discovery of
the Dead Sea Scrolls and they date to the second
century so that reduces that to an 800 year
period of absolute silence on Hebrew manuscripts, but obviously they were
stashed away because they're afraid of them being destroyed. So this discovery now
of the Hebrew Gospels is just epic, it is so exciting. This is a story, I call it, the greatest story never told. - I don't think I'm gonna let
you completely steal that one. - I may have stolen it from you already. - That fits so much with
the Gospels, you know, because nobody is teaching
what Yeshua taught and that's what he said. He told his disciples, you
make disciples and teach them what I taught you. Instead what we get are
sweet baby Jesus stories and all sorts of insipid
drivel that is passed off instead of teaching what he taught because that is the Gospel of the Kingdom and this is where the real separation with the Messianic believers
in the synagogue system because Yeshua stood up
against rabbinic Judaism. - [Miles] He did. - He stood up and vehemently violated the rules and regulations that were eventually encoded in the Talmud but they invented rules and regulations that Takanot to the Pharisees. He stood up against and that is why they were plotting to, and
then finally delivered him to the Romans for his
execution because he was stripping their authority. And heaven was endorsing it
by these incredible miracles. Every miracle that Yeshua did he was deliberately
violating Pharisee law, and so now when the believers,
the followers of Yeshua, which are called followers of the way throughout the Book of Acts, these people are, they're
really, there's a war going on in the synagogue system
to where the Pharisees are trying to hang on to their religion and the followers of
Yeshua are trying to teach the Torah, clean Torah,
not with all these rules and regulation added, but to
separate the rules from men, from the living word which
is Yeshua's instructions which he is following
exactly and showing us how to live out what Moses
gave us from the mountain. - Right, so you got
these two forces there. They were trying to
separate themselves from the commandments of men, the Takanot, the things that had been added
on to the Judaic religion and keep what was right at
the same time they were trying to remain imitators of
Yeshua Hamashiach by keeping the feast days and the other commandments that were still relevant. Obviously animal sacrifice
and a lot of the temple ceremonies and stuff, they were abrogated with the crucifixion, the sacrifice of the son of God. - Well, they didn't discontinue until the destruction of the
temple though, you know. - No, they didn't. That's correct. But that happened upon
his crucifixion really and then the whole temple
was destroyed 40 years later. But the temple was broken
and defiled and profaned upon the crucifixion. - To clarify on this the Pharisees records tell
us that the 40 years before the destruction of the
temple that the Yom Kippur sacrifice and miracle. The miracle that took place on Yom Kippur of the scarlet cord turning white, that it never happened again. - [Miles] That's exactly right. - And when 40 years before
and according to Maimonides and the Jewish scholars the
destruction of the temple was in 68 of the Common Era. It was the year before the 380th Greek Era that the temple was destroyed. What is 40 years before that? It's 28 of the Common Era, the year Yeshua was crucified. So when he was crucified
from that moment on the Yom Kippur sacrifice,
the miracle that happened, that heaven endorsed this, the miracle never took place again and they still have to
acknowledge this today and if the Pharisees could wipe that out and pretend it didn't
happen they would do it, but they can't do it because
they documented it themselves. This is what happened. The year Yeshua was crucified
the Yom Kippur sacrifice and miracle never happened again, and year after year, until
the temple was destroyed, this was an omen, and there were several, just deeply troubling omens. And so this is where we have
in Hebrews is that, you know, the sacrifices that were
done, and this is important for people to understand. The sacrifices that were
done were to remind us that we broke the blood covenant and we incurred the death penalty. So instead of being killed
immediately as God said, stand back Moses, I'm gonna kill 'em all right now and start over with you. Instead Moses interceded
and the almighty, then, put in place the sacrifices. And that is when Moses
went back up to the mount and the almighty gave
him the detail concerning the brazen altar of sacrifices, and sacrifices were added
because of the transgression, breaking the blood covenant. But when Yeshua paid that penalty, bam. No longer was that
miracle shown from heaven. No longer was it acceptable the sacrifice of that twin goat, that baby
twin goat it was shown-- - [Miles] The escape goat. - That's right. Never, never was effectual again. And so that very moment that
is when the death penalty was paid, and that's what it was. - And people do not realize the whole role of the Messianic Church, the true church, the original church, has
been totally downplayed. They were the seminal central
player in the first centuries of the Christian era. The apostles went to
all corners of the world and they carried the
Hebrew Gospels with them before Rome even became
an established church. - Right, Rome's not even in the picture. - Not in the picture yet. There were some people there. it was, you know, the
Hebrew apostles who took it. They took the Hebrew Gospels. In the early literature we
have it cited as being founded obviously in Israel but also in Egypt, in Syria, and Yemen and in India and Constantinople and Alexandria. Just all over the place the
Hebrew Gospels had been taken and they were teaching from that. They were teaching from that word, from the Hebrew Gospels,
and all of that is ignored. They made the seed bed of
Christianity which spread into the Greek churches. Went to the Gentiles, mostly Greek, and that changed everything. - Let's trace this back for
the people for a few minutes because the apostles stayed in Jerusalem. They didn't go on from there,
they stayed in Jerusalem and this is when Shaul was
sent by the Pharisee Sanhedrin over to Damascus to
continue to arrest believers he was sent to the synagogues
to arrest believers follows of Yeshua in the
synagogue and bring him back in chains, and of course
this resulted in Yeshua appearing to him and so finally
he comes back to Jerusalem. When he comes back the
apostles are afraid of him. But Barnabas was there
in Damascus he said, no, he's changed, he's
boldly preaching Yeshua and so you have Barnabas and
Shaul who are going in and out of Jerusalem and great
things are happening, but Shaul then starts
contending with these Greek proselytes and they get
all fired up because they want to hold on to their Judaism. You know, they wanna hang
on to their Phariseeism and so they're in conflict. And so then Shaul gets
taken over to Caesarea where he gets on a boat
and goes off to Tarsus. But what Barnabus does is he goes up and he goes up to Antioch and it says as the apostles spread out from Jerusalem they went just to the synagogue,
preaching only to the Jews not the Gentiles, the
Samaritan's by Phillip, yeah but that didn't go very far, but it was the Messianic believers
who took it to Antioch and then Barnabus went
down and got Shaul , Shaul went back there and this is where as you pointed out in your research that Luke was in Antioch. - [Miles] Right. - And so we have the
first time that in Antioch Gentiles are in the synagogue
with the rest of the believers and the Messianic Jews in the synagogue and what happens with that? That's when they first
became known as Christians. - [Miles] Right, by the Gentiles - So we have Gentiles . By Gentiles were in the synagogue. - [Miles] (speaks in foreign
language), Nazarenes. - That's right, the (speaks
in foreign language). - And so, but that changed the church but Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles and many of the Jews in Diaspora had lost their orthodox Judaism. They had lost it but they became believers but they did not come
back to doing all the laws and the customs that the
of the rabbinic tradition. The orthodox believers
in Yashua in Jerusalem were zealous for the law. So you had this contradiction. - Zealous not only for the
law, but you have those who are Pharisee, believers
who were Pharisees who are holding on to rabbinic tradition and that's where a big
conflict comes in always throughout the book of Acts.
- That is the conflict and that is what caused the
divorce between the Greek Church and the Messianic Church. It is this conflict. This is why they were so upset with Paul because they believed he was teaching this that it was okay for
them to not obey the law because the Judaic believers. James the Just, the brother
of Yeshua and the others they wanted them to
come back into the fold and begin to practice the law and this is really why
so many people say that the Christian Church is
really based more on Paul, than it is on Yeshua because
he carried the banner of this outreach to the
Gentiles which was moving further and further from the law. And I'd like to show you
something that I think will blow your mind. - Well, we've gotta take a break right now because as this debate is going to heat up because I think both of
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together to show these Messianic believers, Messianic
Jews as they take this message out into the world
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and things are heating up here on the Rood Awakening Studio
because we are exploring things back in the foundation
of the Christian Church as it was first called,
Christians in Antioch, but what was going on? These were Messianic Jews that were going to the synagogue and this
is something Miles and I, as we're discussing this,
we felt that this needed to be clarified. As we see in the book of Acts, and in Shaul's letters is
that we have believers, followers of Yeshua who were Pharisees and they have brought with them all of the rabbinic Takanot. All of this oral law that
they've grown up with their whole lives and they cannot separate the oral Torah that they were
taught and the Torah of Moses and this is where Yeshua
puts the knife down. He said I did not come to bring peace, I came to bring a sword. And he put the blade down
between the law of Moses, which are the commandments of God and the invented rules and
regulations of Phariseeism which they built an entire
religious system on that. So you've got believers who are still in the grasp of Pharisaic
Judaism in Israel and Shaul is making that knife
point, that knife cut. - [Miles] Yeah. - But now we have Shaul's
writings and the teachings that were done at that time
that everyone was understanding this division that was
going on, but now we've come to the point where we have Gentiles interpreting the scripture
in Shaul's letters from their Gentile
perspective and not knowing that Shaul is not speaking
against the Torah, never does. - No, and he is an observant Jew himself. The big animosity toward him was that they said he was teaching
the Diaspora Jews and the Gentiles that they
did not have to follow the law and this is when they came to Jerusalem-- - Right, but what was he really saying? You don't follow what law? The oral Torah of the Pharisees. - This all came to a head in Jerusalem, this is in Acts 15 where
they all got to gather and they made a determination
based on the guidance of the holy spirit that
those under the circumcision could follow the law,
believers in the messiah could follow the law but
those that were uncircumcised did not have to become circumcised and therefore did not
have to obey all of the commandments all of the laws-- - Oh absolutely not.
- Except for four. - No, no, what James quotes, he quotes what the Gentiles have to do, he quotes it right from the Torah that the Gentiles have got to
not be worshiping other Gods. They can't be committing fornication or (speaks in foreign language) They can't be sexually
- [Miles] Any meat that has been dedicated to foreign Gods. - Right, right, see these
are all things in the Torah. The whole situation is that again you have these anal
retentive Pharisee believers who are trying to put
all of the oral Torah upon the believers. - [Miles] Right. - Upon the Gentile believers. There are things that don't
even apply to Gentile believers such as circumcision. Since when does this sign of the covenant between God and Abraham that all the land from the Euphrates to the Nile belongs to the son's of Israel. Gentiles don't get to get in
on that unless they want to. But to enter into the covenant with Yeshua, into their renewed Covenant,
that doesn't require Gentiles to go under
that particular thing, that's one thing. But then when I comes to all the Takanov to the Pharisees, that's
what everyone is saying, no the Gentiles don't have to do that. The Torah, and this is what it says, the Torah is taught
every week in synagogue. The Gentiles wanna come
in and learn the Torah like they are in Antioch in the synagogue then they have to abstain
from these things, because if you don't agree to that you don't even come into the synagogue. You know, if you don't want
to give up your worship of Pagan Gods don't darken our doorstep. - [Miles] Yes, exactly. - If you want to commit
(speaks in foreign language). If you wanna live a homosexual lifestyle then you don't come in. That's what it's saying. - And they did. They continued to attend synagogue, sometimes church as well on Sunday. But they attended synagogue up until the fourth century when-- - There was church on Sunday? - There was later on, yes. The church on Sunday. The Lord's day right? (Michael laughs) That happened in the second century they started to split away
and have different customs. - Okay, well we're back
in the first century. Take us through because
you've done some research in Yehua's dynasty, the family dynasty and tell us a little
bit of what you found. - This is part of the
greatest story never told because they took a sharp
right turn halfway through Acts and after that
everything in New Testament is basically about Paul,
and the Gentile Church. So that's what happens after the Gospels and they moved away from
the Messianic Church as fast as they could. - The Gentiles yeah and they already started to add in some of their Pagan traditions. - Right, no they did. Yes, Constantine did that. Religious syncretism, you know, Christmas, Saturnalia. You know, Easter, the feasting of Easter, Babylonian sex god. And those that did not
follow that would not worship the resurrection of the son of God on the feast day of the
Babylonian sex goddess. - That's right, and what were they called? - They were declared heretics. They were called, (speaks
in foreign language) which is Latin for 14
because they held to the 14th day of Nisan, which is the day Yeshua sanctified with his own blood
as the day of resurrection. Of the day of his
crucifixion and, you know, the resurrection three days later. So these people were
targeted for extinction. - Right because if you've
gotta have Good Friday and Easter Sunday and
try to get three days and three nights in there you can't do it.
- Not happening. - So anybody that celebrates
the crucifixion of Yeshua on the correct day and
can calculate three days and three nights correctly, we've got to annihilate these people,
we've got to kill them and that's what they did. They hunted them down and killed them. So if you could count to
three basically, you're dead. Okay, you gotta admit
whatever the pope says that's right, whatever-- - The pope is God. That's it, now what would
have happened if they hadn't taken this sharp turn into
the Gentile Greek Church focused all on Paul's message
and message of the Gentiles, this is what you would have seen because the Messianic Church continued and I swear this is
probably gonna blow your mind, you'll never hear this from
the pulpit, but the Jesus dynasty continued.
- That's why you're here and not behind a pulpit. Okay, go ahead. - The Jesus dynasty continued
to build the Messianic Church and this is all in scripture. Of course there's plenty
of argument about it. - Okay, now we're gonna
separate Jesus dynasty. We're not talking about him and Mary Magdalene getting together and having
offspring that will become the kings of Europe, okay
we're not talking that. - We are not talking about that. We're talking about the
Yeshua dynasty I should say. - Now we clarified that,
let's see, this is fascinating ladies and gentlemen.
- his parents were Joseph and Miriam and we know about them. Joseph and Miriam ,but Joseph
had a brother named, Cleophas. And he also, Miram had a
cousin Elisheva who married Zachariah, they gave
birth to John the Baptist, the second messiah. There was the prophesy
of the two messiahs, all the Hebrews at that time knew it. Now Yeshua was a messiah but he was also the son of God, there was a difference. But Cleophas, the brother of Joseph, he had two sons, James
and John and Jude Thaddeus who both became apostles. So these were relatives of
Yeshua that became apostles. He also had a daughter Salome who married Zebedee and she had two sons who also became apostles. That's James the Greater
and John, the apostle John. Cleophas also had another son, Simeon, and Simeon took over, now after the crucifixion of
Yeshua the Messianic Church and the very, very difficult
times was taken over by James the Just who
was a very righteous man. He was a very orthodox Jew, but he was a believer in
the messiah after he was, all of these people were. - Right, he was not a
Pharisee as we think of Orthodox Jew today. - He was very definitely a believer. - He was dedicated to
the accuracy of the Torah and living it. - But in many ways he was the
perfect person for the times because he satisfied the
Jew's fears about people leaving the law, and yet was a believer, a very strong believer in the messiah. In fact he was crucified for
it by the temple priests. He was stoned to death by temple priests as were all of these
descendants of Yeshuah, but after James the
Just was stoned to death for expressing a belief in the messiah they wanted him to tamp
that down on Passover. Instead he went down and said,
what do you expect me to say? He's sitting on the right
hand of God and will return. So, you know, he's the son of God. So they didn't get what they wanted so they had thugs stone him to death. Simeon took over the
Messianic Church at that point and Simeon was the son
of Cleophas and Miriam, the uncle of Yeshua,
he took over the church and he was the one who
led the flight to Pella when the Romans surrounded
a church in Jerusalem and they went to Pella and
saved the Messianic Church. The Pharisees went to
Jamnia and reorganized the Judaic Church. All the other sects were wiped out. The Zelots the Assines, all
of them were the Sadducees were all wiped out, only the Pharisees-- - Right, the Saducees
that's the Zadachim priest they are in charge of the temple. The Pharisees however,
in charge of the center and they went up to Yavney and that's where they
started their academy so. - These are the two centers. - Taking objection to your
terminology, Jewish Church speaking of the Pharisees because-- - No you're right. They instituted Phariseeism in a large way before they were a sect-- - They were in control. All the priests are dead. - Now it became Judaism. Before they were a sect,
now it became Judaism and were enforced by law. So after James the Just, Yeshua's brother guided the
church for 30 difficult years. Simeon led them in the escape
to Pella where many of them went on to Sepharad and Spain and took the Hebrew Gospels with them. After his crucifixion his brother, Jude took over the church,
very aged at this time his youngest brother in his
90s, probably 95 when he took over the church. And Jude's two grandsons also
were leaders in the church. They were also crucified by
Trajan, the Roman emperor. One of their sons, Judah
(speaks in foreign language), which means Judah of Christ
was the last Jewish Christian bishop of Jerusalem. What happened under Constantine, and you don't hear about any of this. - Do not think of the pointy hat. These are leaders, they
are men that lived, you know wore normal clothes
like normal people do and they were elders. They were responsible
and they were overseers. No fish hats. - No, that's exactly right. He was the leader of the movement later they called him a bishop
they reinvented the church. - Right. - He would have never been
called a bishop in his time at all, ever. - And he wouldn't have worn a fish hat or anything like that. - No he wouldn't. He wouldn't have done that. - But again this is what, in
our culture everyone thinks of that, so that's why the terminology, that's why the little
fight when the terminology a little backlash from me because I know how you're using the terminology and I'm interpreting it
from a Hebraic perspective, you know what it's like
really living in Israel. - That's the whole conflict isn't it? We've got this Greek perspective
that has been laid upon us in bibles we all have and read, and then we've got the Hebrew perspective which has some really
significant differences. It tells the same story.
- And the Hebrew Gospels, and the Hebrew Gospels. - It's still the story of the Gospels, it's still the sacred word. - But there are
- But there are - Significant differences.
- Significant differences. - Absolutely - That are crucially
important to understanding our messiah who walked
the earth and was a Jew. - And this, ladies and gentlemen this is why we are taking
these paths down here so that, you know, the story remains the same
except there are significant differences and undertones and things that you will never see in Greek,
you'll never see in English you'll read the English
bible and New Testament the rest of your life
unless you're reading The Chronological Gospels in which I do all the notations
so you can understand it but you'll read right past
these things and never know what it's talking about. - Right, I mean the fact is, the truth, and this is the truth, the Greek Gospels, because the Messianic
Church was a threat to them, they basically wrote the Hebrew messiah out of the message and
made him a Greek Christ. They wrote the Messianic
Church out of church history as if it didn't exist and
wasn't the central player in the early centuries
in spreading the word to all corners of the earth before the Rome church
even came into being, and also it wrote the Hebrew Gospels out. They didn't exist. And that's the stream, all
the early church fathers said they did. 75 attestations to them in
the early church literature, nobody, nobody said
that they didn't exist, you know, nobody did, there were quotations from the Gospels. - Now you even suggest that they do exist and I'll tell you the termites
come out of the woodwork. - If you're in seminary you
better pick another profession 'cause you are not
getting a piece of paper. - You're not getting out alive. - You're not getting it. This is what really happened. The story never told and you can see it on
this chart right here. You can see that the
right side of the chart, the Greek Roman Tradition
is what we get taught. But this left part of the chart you see, that's the Messianic Tradition
started much earlier. The original church was
that of the messiah. The Messianic church, and
it divided into two parts. Followers of John were the Ebionites and they went in a little
different direction in doctrine, but they were believers. And then the Nazarenes were the
(speaks in foreign language) were the followers of the
messiah and the apostles were also followers of the messiah. So they went out into
all corners of the world and started the Apostolic
Church we collared or the Apostolic Churches which gradually most of them became Gentile Churches but not all of them. - Okay and again when
we say the word church it's not a stain glass
pile of brick on a corner with a steeple on it. They met in the home
throughout the book of Acts. - Good point, congregation is better. - That's right it's congregation. They got together in a circle. It wasn't like they had somebody, the holy pontiff sitting up
front to seminate information. No everyone, everyone had a psalm, a hymn, a revelation, it was
real life and that's why all the synagogues started in the home. - [Miles] They did, they did. - All the synagogues are where everyone can speak
- That's what the word means in Hebrew, the words that mean in Hebrew or congregations really. In Greek became (speaks
in foreign language) and (speaks in foreign language) and then they separated the meaning of those two as wondrous and uniquely Jewish and one was Christian. Never, that's not the way it was written in the bible in the Gospels,
it was congregations. Congregations, groups of believers. So they weren't churches
but what you have, they weren't churches in
the sense of buildings, they were churches in the sense of congregants, of followers. - Right, not of buildings,
don't think of buildings. - It was these Apostolic Churches, the apostles who took and created the Greek Church. We've already been
decades and even centuries on the road before there are many Greeks until they overwhelm the
number of Jewish Christians that were out there. But you had the Greek Church start. - Just because of the
proliferation of the Gospel in the gentile world,
they were catching on, and so eventually there
become more gentiles than Jews, but the Jews were the ones that gave their lives to get the
good news of their messiah out to the gentile world
and then the gentiles started mixing in their Pagan sun worship. - They did, Constantine in particular. You know, Christmas, Saturnalia. Easter the feast day
of Easter and of course they turned Sukkot into All Hallows Eve. The day of the dead, Halloween. That never quite took. - Right, right, but
that was really Samhain the worship of the god of death, but then the Catholic Church
tried to change it into, they tried to sanctify this worship of the god of death, and so
now we see what happened. Okay, we're gonna sanctify what God says can't be sanctified, do not
learn the way of the heathen and they did what the heathen did and now what do we see in our culture? Did the church really reform Halloween? Or is it still the worship and celebration of the god of death? It still is, they couldn't do it. They didn't do it because they
were disobeying the Torah. Don't do this. - And they did it specifically,
and this is not hidden doctrine, they were openly
saying they were changing the feast days in order
to not be celebrating at the same time as the Jews. So you can see how that
rankled the Messianic Church. They were not going to start worshiping the crucifixion of their messiah on the feast day of Easter. - Good Friday when Dagon
the fish god is worshiped, that's what Rome did instead of on the day that the passover lamb
is sacrificed the 14th. - That's where the fish symbol comes from. But you know, keep this in mind. Any day is a good day
to worship the messiah. I don't care what day it
is, whether it's Easter or the 25th of December. Any day is a great day
to worship the messiah. But, you know just be aware
when your church puts on this marquee, come worship Easter with us. Just remember where that came from. - Yeah, just imagine the
bare breasted goddess of fertility as you might
as well put the front cover of Playboy up in front of the church. Come worship Easter,
cause that's what it is. - So now messianic are declared heretics 'cause they refuse, they
are gonna imitate Yeshua, they're gonna imitate the
messiah and they're gonna worship on the feast days that are
established and commanded of them in the word. - Keep these feasts
forever because they're all as Shaul said, these are all
prophetic shadow pictures of good things to come. They are the mechanism
whereby the almighty tells us the end of time, from the very beginning. These are his (speaks in foreign language) his holy rehearsals and these
rehearsals go on forever. The feast of tabernacles was not fulfilled when the word is made flesh
and tabernacled among us. It's not even fulfilled
in the millennial rain when Yeshua tabernacles on earth and everyone must go up
to his birthday party in Jerusalem for the feast of tabernacles and if they don't it's
not gonna rain on them. No, it's not fulfilled until the last time when the new heaven and
new earth, new Jerusalem comes down and we
tabernacle with the father and with the Yeshua forever. (speaks in foreign language) Torah fans. (speaks in foreign language) Have a good week. We'll see you back here
next week for the rest of the greatest story never told. (speaks in foreign language) Bye bye.
