Gohmert Talks to Charlie Kirk about Voter Fraud Issues

Congressman Louis Gomer now on the line don't we Terrell Congressman can you hear me I sure can hopefully you can hear me I can so we are live here on the Charlie Kirk show we are just joined by General mcinerney who has been talking about a lot of different things in the last couple weeks as you well know Congressman I want to thank you so much for joining us and I second want to thank you uh for speaking out on this issue in the last week and a half you've been one of the few members of Congress that has been speaking out about uh this raid in Germany uh title um the hammer and scorecard all of it I'm Gonna Let You just begin and you have the floor Congressman what is going on in this what happened in this election and what are you trying to uncover well if we got time let me take you back to the election in Texas in both the uh the primary March of 2018 and in the general election of 2018 there was a uh group in a private intelligence group uh Former Intelligence people that uh were monitoring the election in Dallas County and you know it's been some years back but it was news that Soros and others were trying to get people in place who would do the counting in our elections and I thought well that's a shame but there are some places that may work but here in Texas our secretary of state is in charge of all the election counting and that's appointed by a republican Governor so we're safe I didn't think about the fact that our four biggest cities are controlled completely by democrats and unlike East Texas and west Texas where the county clerk is expected to have her staff or his staff do all the counting in the big counties they will hire firms one was hired I think their base was in Toronto Canada to come in and do the counting for them and we knew of one problem of course all of these systems report a we don't connect to the Internet so nobody can get in and hack and actually there was a great article that of all people entities NBC did January 10th of this year had you seen that Charlie yeah this is also the CNBC piece that was done at the hackers convention yeah well yes they they have to be programmed some way and that they do have data go from certain parts of the county into an aggregating system and most of them use idle the s-c-y-t-o uh was originally headquartered in 2018 in Barcelona Spain gives you warm feelings that Spain can control how our elections come out feel good all under but anyway uh so I had this group get with me and they did a briefing Sidney Powell and others have seen the information and I went holy cow so I kept trying to get our attorney general in Texas to uh there's enough here you could get warrants you could seize accounting machines and and laptops and Equipment nothing was ever done kept being told oh yeah we're on top of we're taking so over a year ago I took it to the White House anime presentation the president he said this this is a real problem I said they're going to try to do it in 2020 and by uh by then we also had the general election results and there were actually votes changed one of the things they could do though uh the early voting was put onto flash drives and each early voting location had a flash drive with all the votes they brought those in on Friday night after early voting stopped before the election on Tuesday and then they had three days to play with them and there were some changes made in the primary that were found and noted um but that's one way I mean they're using every tool at their disposal whether it's the ballot harvesting you know the they're just so many things the false votes but uh illegal people people illegally hear voting but in any event the president said this is a problem and anyway apparently there were plenty of people in the administration that shouldn't be there that were saying we got it it's under control and of course you know and I love the fact you're so well informed about most everything but uh I know you're familiar with cisa that's our cyber and infrastructure Security Agency headed by a guy named Christopher Krebs how could we go wrong but there was a great there was an article in Politico of all places on Election Day uh weeks ago and uh it was a really a love piece about crabs and he was assuring everybody there was no way our votes could be affected system secure no place for fraud and he did thank his Partners in Silicon Valley who all of course love uh president Trump and for those that are leftists that may be watching that's called sarcasm okay uh but uh you know the guide worked for Microsoft before he came to the government so what could go wrong having a guy that uh that was a Bill Gates loyalist working and securing our election since Bill Gates loves uh president Trump so much in any event uh that's who was supposed to be watching the hen house and all they were doing was preparing reports that said how safe we were all the while sidel on Election Day all of that data uh for most of our election location was going through being aggregated and as we found as NBC had found uh there are ways to hack in they are connected at different times to the internet and that's what we knew from the Texas election from from two years ago so I can't confirm or deny the raid or raids occurred I just had gotten a report that Germany had the people in Germany had reported about the raid but what I knew was the day or before I had given um information supplied it to the White House and said look here's what you need to be getting from seidle and this will be it we'll be able to determine what votes were changed how how widespread how many thousands or millions and by the way another thing Charlie I've heard people say you know the president needs to give it up he lost by about 5.4 5.5 million votes I mean obviously he couldn't have won the election you do a breakdown and you see that California uh with all where they legalized so many illegal ways to vote uh that's where he won by five million votes and then another million votes or so in New York but you look at the other 48 States President Trump won re-election and when when we're looking and I've been around you so much and I know how your mind works and that's why I love the way it works so well you know it's logical okay what would be a Fail-Safe way to check to see if there are indications that the outcome is suspicious well most everybody knew going in if Republicans were going to avoid losing massive number of seats in the House then it was gonna president Trump was going to have to have extensive coattails to carry Republicans along he would have to win so big that the sweep would would help us not lose seats much less you know um gain any we weren't expected to gain any so we're hoping there would be enough coattails from Trump people would turn out for him and we wouldn't lose seats we picked up maybe a dozen or so seats yeah the only way we were going to be able to keep the majority in the Senate was going to be again if Trump turnout was so big that we didn't lose the majority and and the background on that we picked up seats two years ago because the Democrats had nearly twice as many seats of theirs that were up for re-election this time we had a lot more Republican seats up so this was the time for them to pick them up okay so when you see we picked up a bunch of seats in the House and no incumbent lost their seat it was a Republican and we kept looks like we'll keep the majority in the Senate how did that happen well it could only happen with Trump coattails so that tells you something is terribly wrong if the popular vote says Trump won or lost by five and a half million votes there's something bad wrong there and and Congress and Congressman also California oh our former guest talked about hammer and scorecard can you talk about any specifics around that are you hearing things are there briefings happening can you just add some light into it because there's a lot and I ask pointedly intentionally Congressman because there are about 45 to 50 million people right now that are about to lose permanent trust in our Democratic systems well I I can't give any specifics on Hammer and scorecard uh those are certainly issues but we do have people doing deep Dives and you know we hope to know more soon but uh with regard going back to the uh the reported raids in Germany of Seidel by the way they've apparently gone through a bankruptcy but I mentioned earlier that two years ago their main headquarters was in Spain Barcelona well that apparently got moved Main Headquarters to a place called Frankfurt Germany you know Germany where Merkel was telling uh Trump the next day that he just needed to concede and get out of there yeah because she doesn't want to pay what she agreed to pay to as Germany's fair share to the U.N and she doesn't like Trump trying to hold their feet to the fire there are all kinds of reasons she oh and and they want us back in the Paris Accord like everybody else because uh we're the ones we're the only ones that are going to pay every other country in the world for all the damage China is doing to the environment so they have a lot of reasons in Germany they and in Spain they want Trump out but what we what really bothered me is here I provide I'd email this information on what specifically to look for uh that what information we needed that was I didn't come up with it it was provided by some of our former Intel people and then immediately after that we hear that title server has been grabbed and it's apparently if it were apparently it was not by uh direction of the president so you wonder who's getting that and what's that all about and there's still some ways that we can grab that information can you can you just tell us your significance of that server what might be on it and you know just a lot of people are talking about it um in on Twitter and on online you you have mentioned it what could potentially be the significance of this and how it implicates what where what may or may not have happened um you know about a week and a half ago well as uh even the NBC stories showed their back doors to the information being accumulated and that's something I'd been hearing there or back doors where they can go in and and people can change votes and they do and what we had seen in 2018 from The Briefing that I got was that there they used a couple of methods one is just flipping Republican votes in a race or more races but flipping Republican votes and making them Democrat votes just in the county and that creates some problems for the data and that what makes a good analyst able to do a deep dive and see wait a minute these were changed here's where they were changed and that's what messed up the down ballot votes um so that's one way and another thing is apparently they use what's called a multiplier they can input a multiplier so that just hypothetically or for example every vote for Beijing Biden would end up being multiplied so that he was getting more than one vote it would be multiplied by whatever they put in now I've been told that uh in some of the the Deep diving going on now there are actually fractions of a vote and since uh the Democrats demanded that uh black votes only count as three-fifths of a vote back before the Civil War um we haven't been having fraction of the votes but if you ever see that it tells you there's been a multiplier that applied that that fractionalized a uh an outcome so those are a couple ways and so if you had the undoctored title server uh you should be able or an experts should be able to find votes that were changed if they're there and they've not been erased then you'll find those votes that were switched you'll find what votes uh what elections they were switched in and in fact uh I'd seen data on votes that were switched in 2018 in Dallas Texas but unfortunately and I've been telling the president for a while as long as Christopher Ray's heading up the FBI this country is not safe and you're not safe uh Christopher Wray took his admonition to uh clean up the FBI to mean that he needed to sweep everything under the rug and that's what in my humble opinion he's been doing ever since he got there we cannot move forward and the FBI can't get their reputation back as long as he's there it's just in my opinion not honest at all in the Washington part we got good honest FBI agents around the country but we got people that still are a problem for us keeping this self-government going so Congressman if I remember correctly uh you were a judge in a past life is that right correct and so a lot there's a lot is now going to be put on judges right now uh federal judges and Supreme Court judges uh just looking at this realistically what does the Trump campaign uh have to present uh if you put your judge kind of robon what what needs to be presented for a judge to maybe order a re-vote or something that would dramatically change the current trajectory uh take as much time as you'd like for our audience that really doesn't understand how the legal process works uh what it would take for a judge to act that dramatically and you're right it wouldn't be dramatic uh there have been elections that have been overturned and new votes required but uh in a case like this and I've discussed this with some of the attorneys helping the president and I'm also licensed and certified practice before the U.S Supreme Court but as a member of Congress I'm not authorized and prohibited from practicing law but uh and it doesn't keep me from remembering as a our highest level trial judge in Texas and then also on the court of appeals uh as chief justice it back in Texas [Music] um you will have to come in and everybody's heard about different types of fraud uh whether it's dead people voting which did occur apparently ten thousand or so in Michigan uh even though we've been told oh well they may have voted but we would have called those and not counted those well we know some got counted but it's not enough to come before the the court and show that there was fraudulent voting you need to show that and we need to show that that dead people voted we need to show that some people voted for other people we need to show a test has been reported in Pennsylvania that there were mail-in ballots that got voted and recorded before they ever could possibly have been returned all of those things need to come in if we can get uh and and there ought to be it ought to be retrievable by subpoena or warrant uh to get the data from sidel and other sources uh to show and we need to do this to show votes that were changed from here to here uh some people have seen the video of uh Matt bevin's race last year in Kentucky for governor and where you just saw over 500 votes just flipped from Republican to Democrat well that kind of stuff was what I was shown uh had been happening in 2018 in Texas they got the system down so I feel like it should be retrievable once they get that data to show that but all of that is still not enough you have to be able to show that on an extensive enough basis that a judge would say whoa there's no question this affected the election and when it gets to that scale then the choices are you can order all of the improper votes to be struck if those can be shown uh you could and then a recount with the ones that were legitimate you could order a complete redo of the election but we don't have a lot of time for that or the court could order that these votes are in such a disastrous form they cannot be certified as the election results from this state therefore this state's Electoral College votes can't be certified and they can't help either candidate get to 270. in which and if they're not enough for anybody to get to 270 Biden or uh president Trump then it would be thrown to the house and as you know it's not the Democrat majority that would decide okay it's one vote and then um we have more states where the majority Republicans the Democrats and since Mitt Romney is not in the House of Representatives then we should be able to hold Republican states voting for The Republican candidate so those are all possibilities uh but it's got to be compelling enough and in another another Factor too and this is one of the things that bothered me so much about the fisa court being lied about if you're a judge you're going to be lied to time to time but what really bothered me is the fisa courts didn't seem to be bothered that people came in and committed a fraud on their Court I found if you put one lawyer in jail one day one time the rest get the message and you don't have problems with lawyers not doing what they're supposed to or being honest about what's supposed to happen but nothing like that happened the bicy courts didn't seem to be bothered I don't know any federal judges that wouldn't have freaked out over that and here in Pennsylvania they were ordered to allow the Republican poll Watchers to come in I went up to Pennsylvania okay I'm not from Pennsylvania that's where the fight was so I showed up but you have to let the Republican poll Watchers watch and why not they ought to have it uh as cheap as TV cameras are you know internet cameras they should have been watching watching every desk where votes were being counted so you could ensure okay you think Biden was going to win so big then let's see it honestly instead they were putting up paper or posters where you couldn't see in and that was they were ordered to allow people to see so if I'm a judge that issued that order or got my judge hat back on my judge wrote back on and the evidence comes in that after I sent that order to make it transparent allow everybody to see what and okay you finally let them in but you moved them the counting back so far they still couldn't see I'm deeply offended by that and I think uh justice Alito and others have enough Integrity they would be deeply offended by people doing that and there's a legal doctrine that if one side has access to evidence and that evidence is either destroyed or can't be gathered then a judge is allowed to take judicial notice or to order a jury that they can take notice that the evidence was available to this person it's no longer to this party and it's no longer available and therefore you can consider that that evidence proves their point was not valid and it's one of the few times a judge can instruct a jury that you can take something that's not direct evidence but if they've hidden evidence they haven't followed an order then the court could just say you know what I told you to make it transparent so all the votes that you didn't allow to be transparent they're not going to count because we can't trust them and if you've intermingled you didn't set the ones aside I told you to every one of them then we can't trust your account of the votes and it can't be certified you need a do-over or he could say it's not enough time can't be certified your state can't be certified which again throws it back to the house so a couple questions Congressman announcement on that and one thought I had thought as well because it's really important what you mentioned which is how could there be a order like in Pennsylvania where they just don't follow it like let me in they say oh no and the answer is very simple is that they know nothing will happen they know that if you're Peter struck or Lisa Page you don't go to jail they know if you're Hillary Clinton you destroyed devices you don't go to jail they know if you're BLM and you burn down a city you don't go to jail and the little things really matter and the little things that add up to this idea of no no the judicial system works for us silly little citizen a court order that that's just an annoyance and that's the significance of not actually going after every one of these people that have committed crimes the small ones and the big ones and then Congressman I want to ask a really quick question on this how did Samuel Alito ordered for votes to be segregated how did that work how does a singular Justice order for something to happen can you can you explain that to me because I was really confused by that the way uh if if you're trying to get a quick injunction and you can make a basis show a basis for a court to act the Supreme Court will will put one judge on it and have them make a determination and it also happens with with the courts of appeal as well uh if it's an emergency you have one judge on it but then you can appeal to the full the unbox all of the judges uh together and that's why sometimes you will see maybe a three-judge panel or a one judge on a federal court of appeals that'll issue an order or decision or temporary ruling or even a final ruling and then the party can say we want to go have a hearing before the full panel and and go from there but emergencies it's not uncommon to have one judge assigned to take that up and if you're the litigant you're really hoping it's a friendly judge because you got friends and you got enemies that's Supreme Court not Sotomayor or Breyer or Kagan that's for sure so I'm glad Alito was was wearing the uh was wearing that role so the other question really impressed by Justice Alito and his Devotion to wanting to follow the law and just like you were pointing out Charlie unless there are consequences for absolute ignoring a court order then of course that will continue and I I don't we've got enough people on the Supreme Court now that that do believe in the rule of law and let me tell you another thing that you're trained about as a judge is the fact that decisions both criminal and civil they can have they need to have a deterrent effect to improper conduct and so like for example if you're you're deciding on an appropriate punishment then you're supposed by law you you're supposed to consider General deterrence what will be a message and what I do here that is strong enough that others who are similarly tempted to do this kind of conduct will not want to do it and then specific deterrence so that the people you are specifically dealing with will never want to do that again it will be so costly and if you send a message like that to to seidle to Dominion es and yes uh you will see them be much more careful about the back doors that are left open or things that are hooked to the internet but this is very very critical for our future and for those Republicans or rhinos that say look the president needs to concede and we can come back and win more seats in the presidency in 2024 no some of us have seen how they were learning this this way of stealing an election in 2018 they got much much better at it in 2020 and if this election is stolen if the fraud is not corrected and and it could be that after you take out all the illegal voting and you take out the manipulation of the data that Biden wins okay he wins and Trump would let him roll in but I don't think that's where it's going once we get down to the real votes so Congressman in addition to that can you help me understand um because you're talking about how a judge could step in Supreme Court Justice or otherwise and could say if you didn't follow my orders these votes could be thrown out and it could go to the house and all of this what you're saying is that to despite what a lot of the establishment Republicans are saying there's a lot of remedies for president Trump at this moment if this gets interpreted as a spoiled election in the eyes of a judge and you've mentioned what it would take to get there and it is a very high threshold do you think based on current claims by the very um very reputable Sydney Powell she she's confident that President Trump will serve a second term she thinks that the Biden transition team is uh kind of a waste of time is what she said today on television there's a lot of people that are anxious and confused about this entire process and how it all working people know that it's stolen it's just and what's really upsetting Congressman I was on a an airplane a couple days ago and people came up to me and they said can we can we trust anything the government ever says again and I said probably not and that that's where we're getting to where people are just gonna say they're gonna they're gonna treat their government like it's a Banana Republic I guess the question is can you comment on what what could realistically happen before the magical date start appearing when the Electoral College gathers and we have to start really filing you know pre-inaugural paperwork because we do have to have you know a the next leader of the Free World by January 20th unless the Supreme Court decides to come in on dramatic traumatic action do you see do you think do you see that there could possibly be some bombshell Revelations where the U.S Supreme Court could you know step in here yeah I I believe some of us have seen uh enough fraud that the Supreme Court absolutely needs to step in uh and and it takes me back to the the summer I was an exchange student to the Soviet Union Charlie uh I've spent a lot of time with other college students uh have half of that summer was in Ukraine I used to say the Ukraine and one of the ukrainians said do you say I'm from the Texas and I said no dude we don't say the Ukraine here either we're from Ukraine but so much time with college students and I couldn't believe they didn't trust their government's story on anything most of them and and I said doesn't it bother you that you can't believe anything your government tells you and there was a Russian expression that that I heard over and over it drove me crazy that well there's nothing to be done nothing to be done I I hated that it was so fatalistic but that's how a Marxist government is able to stay in power is by showing the people you can't do anything it's just going to ruin your life just sit back and Roll Along and coast along but that's not the American way and and the courts can do something and frankly Charlie I would rather have a redo election than to have the courts roll in and say I agree we can't trust it and it can't be certified and it goes to the house the first time that ever happened uh John Quincy Adams in 1824 did not get a a majority of the popular vote and he didn't have enough Electoral College votes so it went to the house and it created lots of trouble for him he didn't win a second term of course and then he ran for congress the unthinkable after me president but and and tried to work on eliminating slavery but it would be cleaner if we could make sure that people's vote counted um you know I know in my own District the first time I ran uh I was told by somebody that was a major Democrat that I pay a lady here for it's usually around 1500 votes and she had a list she'd go get people to sign on the absentee ballot request and then she would get the absentee ballots and I asked the clerk one time is did she really vote that many she said yeah sometimes she votes them all in green ink so she can prove how many she voted because she gets paid for every vote but in any event there's always been cheating uh you know I I was watching a vote uh back in the 90s and Tom Brokaw told uh I guess it was David Brinkley tell him that story that Johnson told about when he ran years ago he said well he said you know back then before Watergate the Press was friends with uh with all of the presidents as they were president and a lot of times the president would come down to The Press Room and sit at one of our desks and just sit around and talk and he knew he could trust them not to print anything that was like that off the Record and one time and it must have been 66 said we were watching some midterm reports of votes coming in and Johnson Lyndon Johnson had his boots up on the desk and scratching his belly and like drinking a beer yeah I remember back when I was running uh uh my campaign manager and I were out in the cemetery the night before the election of course in Duval County there were a lot of dead people that used to vote vote in alphabetical order and those kind of things but uh yeah and uh we would write down the name off each Tombstone and we came to one that had all this stuff on it we couldn't really tell the name and my campaign manager said come on Linden let's go to the next grade and I grabbed his arm and I said no sir this man has ever been as much right to vote as anybody else in the cemetery and so you know in those office in Texas that know our Texas history no that happened in Duval County and then I think the courthouse burned when the investigators came to investigate so the biggest is John fund has said before that wrote a great book on fraud and elections the biggest fraud about elections is the statement that there is no fraud in elections there has always been people trying to cheat and some have done so successfully and by the way I asked Monica Crowley that worked for Richard Nixon after he was President I think helping with the book and I said well I heard third in 1960 that Nixon was told there may be enough fraud in Chicago that we could go to court and you'd have a shot at winning and she said she had talked to him about it and that he said yeah he was told it was a good shot at overturning it but he just felt like it would be too divisive for the country and so Charlie you go back to the discussion earlier on deterrence if there are no consequences for cheating then it just gets worse and worse and worse until it builds to where we are now and people don't have you're going to have 70 million people that don't have confidence in this vote so Congressman I want to take a question here from some of our listeners we have tens of thousands watching and I want to thank you for being so generous uh with your time uh one question that we just keep on getting is what can we do some of our supporters here at charliekirk.com support just one question here uh from Gary from Michigan he says what can we do he said I feel helpless um and I feel like this election was robbed what can what can just average citizens Patriots do right now um because we're because just a lot of people are sitting at home saying this this feels like the greatest con job in elections in American history what can I do no no it's not just American history it's in world history I mean this is this will be the biggest Stone election in world history yes it went on in the Soviet Union but they didn't really have to steal a lot of votes so they people were scared not to vote as they were told and uh you rant there were problems obviously in Venezuela and Cuba any place you have socialism you're going to have an all-powerful totalitarian government but to your question uh I know as a when I was a judge we were not to be uh affected by the opinion of people but and and uh sometimes I hated what the law was and I would explain I think this is the wrong outcome but I'm not allowed to legislate From the Bench you'll have to go to Austin to get the law changed or Washington to get the law changed so I might have to follow the law but there are a lot of judges well most of us just just say it most of us do not want to be exceedingly unpopular and be called all kinds of names I think God's been good to me during my days as a judge my skin got so much thicker and so I could handle it but I see judges all the time they are definitely swayed by uh by popular opinion and I think Justice uh chief justice Roberts is one of those uh in fact my understanding was that on Obamacare decision uh he was really that he was planning on voting uh that it was unconstitutional and I was told that information was coming into the court uh from back Channel stuff with its sources which it's not supposed to uh but from the White House saying you know you guys need to understand if you declare the Affordable Care Act will misnomer you've declare the Affordable Care Act unconstitutional there'll be millions of people die they won't have insurance they can't get the health care and it'll all be your fault the Republicans don't have a plan and so all these people would be out you can't do that and chief justice Roberts will go down in history as the most political chief justice since Taney and the Dred Scott decision and that ultimately supposedly Roberts just didn't want to go down in history as the most political chief justice so what happened he became the most political chief justice since the Dred Scott decision but Justice Scalia had told me one time uh and I don't know if you were following Supreme Court decisions back when the kilo decision came out from uh from um New Hampshire I believe it's New Hampshire but it was a case where the city decided to use their power of imminent domain to take somebody's private property not for a not for a Civic or city reason but because they would wanted to give it to a developer who was supposed to divide it and make it more valuable and then they would receive a lot more property tax from all that money and that's outrageous you're not supposed to do that but nobody had raised a fuss when cities Across America had used their power to condemn property to take it for a government purpose and then handed it over to some rich developer that was building a sports Stadium you know well if you're going to follow the law on imminent domain you don't give it to a private person that's going to have a private Stadium sure if it's going to be like Green Bay that's a legitimate that cities can own it but that's nobody raised a fuss ever about those Justice Scalia said nobody praise the word so he said he'd never seen the Supreme Court Justices more shocked at the outrage of the public when a majority of the Supreme Court said yeah you can use condemnation imminent domain and take land away if you think somebody else will pay more taxes on it well people were outraged but they said well if somebody you know had raised Cain about the sports stadiums then they probably would never have gotten to that bad decision and that's the way I see this you know you're not going to change uh Clarence Thomas or Justice Alito there were a handful well hopefully uh hopefully five but I don't know will not be swayed by public opinion they'll do what they believe the Constitution requires but we've seen it too many times uh and and I'd also heard back Roe versus Wade that since majority of the justices went to these cocktail parties all around the world that said well of course a woman ought to be able to kill the baby they had not heard people on the other side and so all of that long story to say it makes a difference when people go out to the streets as they did in Egypt in 2013 a third of the population went to the streets all over Egypt and said we don't want the Muslim Brotherhood the radical islamists running our country we want him out he's destroying our constitution and it happened they were peaceful the Muslim brother had burned down some Churches and stuff and tried to make it look like but that's the point it's got to be peaceful Dr King was one of the greatest examples ever his was peaceful you had Bill Ayers and those kind of people thinking that terrorism and blowing things up for people dying that was the way to go it didn't accomplish anything until they went in and took over as you know when you talk about as professors and started uh misinforming students but it is critical that people make their voices heard have rallies like people did before the election yes have rallies to say you should not steal this election we need Fair elections because there was a great quote this in the Republican any of them are saying oh I will have another dance down the road but there was a great quote from Churchill that and I can't find it now but basically if you won't fight when success is virtually assured then you will come to the place where you are going to lose but fighting is better than dying as a slave so this is a point we can still win but once they an election is stolen and they have total control of the intelligence total control of the FBI total control of all of the government they're not going to be any more Republicans and they'll start stealing the elections all the way down to City Hall and the local courthouse and we're already moving farther towards socialism than I could ever have imagined and you're going to see Christians and Jews persecuted like never before it's already started but we've seen it covid used as a reason to go after groups that people don't like no you can't meet at a church uh you can go out to a casino or the liquor store that's fine but not to a church live and say I mean we're already seeing that kind of discrimination being brought to the bear and it's got to be stopped and the way to do it is get this election corrected let's get all the votes that are legal votes and if the fraud is so bad and the Disobedience of court orders and of the law is so bad we can't figure out which votes are legitimate then you go to you can't these you cannot certify no no those election results so we either have a do-over election or um you just we don't certify them and it throws it to the house well we have a special we have a runoff in Georgia on January 5th why can't we have a runoff in four or five other states that can't certify their election results and do it the right way um and the it's any sort of excuse and by the way remember one year ago it was Democrats that were calling for a re-vote in North Carolina uh in that in that race because of all the voter fraud and they got what they asked for because the House of Representatives wouldn't seat um I have the name here uh good guy that won but uh he was in trouble there and so Congressman last question here um the the president is remain remaining steadfast in fighting this what is your message to your colleagues and these moderate Republicans that are now just going by the wayside what is your message it's a question that we're getting a lot from our supporters here at charliekirk.com support what are you saying to other members of Congress so I'll be honest Congressman you're one of very very few right now who's speaking out well and I did find this church from this quote from Churchill and let me tell you we have got to fight this is for all of the marbles this will determine whether we will continue to be a self-governing republic or if we will you know become a socialist State now I'm being a Christian I feel strongly about what Dostoevsky said uh and I think he is completely right yes there are a lot of economic problems with socialism but he said the problem with socialism is not economic the problem with socialism is atheism the government becomes God and it has to attack anything that may take away from the government being Godlike but here's Churchill's quote and this is what I would send out to all those Republicans that say it's not worth the fight look we're never going to have another Republican president so if you're thinking if I just get Trump out of the way then I can win in 2024 forget that uh you're they will have perfected the theft in such a way by 2024 Republicans aren't going to be winning again Churchill said if you will not fight for right when you can easily win and without bloodshed if you will not fight when your Victory is sure and not too costly which is what I would say where we are here you may come to the moment when you have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival there may even be a worst case you may have to fight when there's no Hope of Victory because it's better to perish than to live as slaves amen and I think we're at that point where this is not terribly costly they're going to call you crazy and stupid the way I get called all the time um and you know I did quite well on National testing so I'm very secure in who I am what I am and uh my skin was thick enough when I got covered back this summer and I got wonderful sweet messages from all over the country but I got a bunch of uh just diameter uh man and I find those amusing but you gotta get your thins your skin thicker and just go this is for future generations to be able to have freedom to say what they want to believe as they feel led and you know our Second Amendment forget that that'll be gone and but not just those freedom of religion freedom of speech Freedom Assembly yeah all those goals Second Amendment but the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure that's what this last uh this this FBI and Department of Justice is engaged in they would just go search whenever they got good and ready a lion and affidavit and they should be going to jail shame on Durham but this is worth fighting for at a chance where in a time when we have a chance to win and if we don't I'm telling you Charlie future Generations maybe not you as much and people younger than you but for a number of Our Generations they will curse our names for generations to come because we had it so easy and we could have thought and could have saved self-government but just decided we didn't want to be name called or have antifa Target us but antifa's got to be stopped these marxists have got to be stopped so it's it's time not to shrink back and say well let's go to a movie and worry about this later you can't do that so so yeah we gotta fight so I'm very very grateful that you're in the fight and you're smart enough to to see the problems and the things that the left is saying we got to be in the fight organize rallies wherever you live make sure you remember Congress your Senators even if they're different parties they need to be have this outpouring of emails letters of calls saying this is being stolen you have destroyed my vote with fraud yes let's get this right let's make sure we get it right and it usually requires a threat or we're going to make sure you don't get reelected you've got primaries it gets people people uh gets their attention now I've had a premonition since since I first ran that someday I might end up having to take a stand that would cost me the way Sam Houston did when he stood up against uh seceding from the union and slavery and very few people came to his funeral without him there is no Texas um yet sometimes you you do have to take a principal stand even if it means costs and your friends we still celebrating for for the good he did but there at the end of his life it was not fun but he stood up for what he believed was right sometimes you have to do that but what I found back when I was a judge and I was told by every judge I knew if you handled that case you'll never get elected to anything and I lost sleep that's only not ever lost sleep about a decision in uh lost sleep because I was concerned about losing but I prayed about it and what came to me by morning was if I'm going to run from the job I ran for I shouldn't be in this job and so I handled the case made some people mad but did what I thought was right and my approval I mean my polls started going up as a result people appreciated somebody doing what they ran to do well God bless you Congressman for everything you're doing uh for our country keep fighting I want to encourage you stay on this we have your back please let's expose this fraud so God bless you Congressman thank you for joining us

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Published: Mon Nov 16 2020