Gil's Arena EXPLODES Debating The Best Basketball Era

so now it's time to get into it uh y'all know we love a good debate on this show uh so we're bringing one that jumped off in the group chat to y'all uh about which decade was better the 2000s or the 2010s so first let's look at the all decade team from the 2000s this is according nba.com not me you know I merely host oh that's 2000 we got stepen Ash dirt Tim sh kid Jason kid IR LeBron Kevin Ben Wallace chy BS Dwayne Wade Paul Tracy McGrady Amari STM honorable mentions Vince Carter Ray Allen wa what this is from 2000 and 2009 this is like basically 01 to 2009 if I'm not mistaken who did this this is according to nba.com they released all decade team this is just to get the conversation started this is not stamped in gold or anything like that but Gil your name did did pop up on the list so shout out for [Laughter] that okay okay all right so we got to look at the 2000s list solid list now let's take a look at the all decade teams from the the 2010s 2010 don't Dev har and Lebron k wait this is 2010 to what this is basically 2011 to 19 Bas 2019 or 2010 to 19 Marcus Soul over Dwight again this is I knew I knew that your gears I'm just I'm just like and some honorable that could be on on some of these teams Giannis clay Paul George Gober Dame is he the third Team all them [ __ ] from the other team wait hold on from the third team except for Draymond you can leave him all this is third Chris Paul okay okay that's crazy Irvin no that's crazy Dwayne Wade is uh third on both he should be like KOB Durk and Tim is this is 2010 yeah I mean that that makes sense though for that that makes sense third yeah you just that [ __ ] just just happens like that um where's the mar Rosen fair question again question merely a house that's why we wanted to grind your gears a little bit why a Mello on wait uh wait wait hold on yeah no Mello in the I mean he he on them honorable mention at the bottom but definitely this is remember this is 2009 to 2019 most likely I is New York Melo 10 to 19 only had three years about Kye Kyrie Irving no Kyrie and Kye so just as the caveat this list was created in 2019 yeah that's where the 2019 hold on cuz Melo did seven years in in New York came out same year Bron he did Seven Years in New York so Brandon actually Rashad we'll start with you who had the better era the 2000s or the 2010s the 2010s is little boys man they little boys the era the Golden Era the Golden Era so 2000 is the golden era in Europe Golden Era everybody was Killers shot callers Ballers assassins snipers he's a eight time melo's a eight time Allstar in that era 2010 right yeah yeah and he's not on there he was honorable mention but I'm saying can y'all put that list back up can you put the 2010's list back up 2010 he'd be in there in front of I put him in front of Kawai Draymond Green too dirt how's dir wait hold on doing I hold on DK everybody because Dirk won it in 201 2011 I don't give a [ __ ] what he did in 2011 I mean that was the best year this is more perspective on the names from those are five you could you could we could debate about the teams and all that that's one of I mean it matters because if you you know you got I mean Draymond Green what I hold on yeah over Blake Draymond Green over Blake three times three Champs in that Marcus Marcus Marcus just you know three times I mean you got y you're three time all you're a three time Allstar I mean yianis should be over there points in the era um I'm I'm who oh but choke I'm not put I'm not putting Mark Gasol and I'm not putting him in first team not over Dwight Howard N I mean I I I mean the fact that they got the 2010s it's a bad I mean you yeah their third team is not very very good yeah I figured you guys would have opinions but that's why but more just collectively the players from from no no no we're not going to do the players because you know we're going to look at certain these players and think that they're they're Prime players on the teams that they own yeah so co wait that's Allstar Allstar Allstar so four basically a four time real Allstar next year 13 Russ is definitely second team yeah Russ is I mean that's what I said SEC it's his third team because this third team ain't it's a name it's a name versus is AD second team though 2010 he 13 13 He 13 I'm looking at Lamarcus no Anthony David this is this would be his year this would be his years yeah see Anthony Davis would be in this is his whole career he came in 200 13 14 six so that's he only he's only six years in to this [Applause] decade Kyrie Kyrie this Dame this is Dame this is Kyrie yeah like okay okay first of all is Draymond top 75 he didn't make the list so if he didn't make the list and Dame made the list how the [ __ ] is Dame sitting on the side right fair fair question right so so the list is all right so I'm just going to go with 2010 just cuz they [ __ ] this one up I was going to go with the I was going to go with this group I like this group marusa Draymond and then old Tim Duncan so who would you put besides Marcus off on you have you need you need Dame in here uh first team though yeah yeah yeah would you put the white white all right 2010 who you putting in oh who who whoa whoa 2010 that means the this is hurt that would be hurt the white right nah yeah but we just talking about that that error that's what I'm saying yeah 2010 this is hurt this is hurt was Superman Dwight is you got Superman so you got three years Orlando then basically al la and Houston so he but those three those last three years in Orlando was crazy to up until 2012 10 11 12 13 were all good yeah then there was even Tim Duncan like you know this is horrible L I know you guys will feel the way about yeah I think they you know at some do yeah Blake Griffin should be and LaMarcus yeah Blake Blake yeah Blake Blake this is Blake that's said this is Blake's years so when you just look at the errors though 2000 golden eror yeah I'm going 2000 let me see the 2000s but of course I'm going my era but why do you feel like your era the 2010s is better than the 2000s ain't no look at that list cuz look at my roof look at my roof cuz first of all your first team Steph Curry is already better than Steve Nash so that's out of there no no cap and then Dirk can't [ __ ] with KD can't [ __ ] with k d and and and then LeBron is in there on the first team too so yeah that's yeah and the rest but see we have Tim and Shaq I mean we only five years like Omari in front of Ben Wallace first of all we not putting Steve we putting AI in first team ai go first Steve Nash go to third ai go number one dir go dir goes team two LeBron goes in the team once so which it's going to be AI Kobe Lebron Tim and Shaq first team ra say who AI Kobe Lebron Tim and Shaq first team then you got uh then you got then you got J kid Steve Paul I'm J kid dwade Tracy McGrady Kevin Garnett Ben Amari and I'm putting Ben on the third team okay with chy and Paul yeah remember the only reason D way can't make the second team is cuz he's coming in in the middle of the he's coming in 2003 2005 yeah 2003 you know so he kind of it's only G him seven years but it's 2009 so it only gives him but he was dwed in ' 06 he was 06 06 so so you got three years of it when you got somebody who's like so Steve Nash J kid would be fully fledged and no cuz Steve wasn't Steve until' 05 no he was was decent he wasn't like that first he was an MVP MVP but he was decent still um then you got Vince you looking at Vince and Ray Allen early early early boys ya so Brandon why do you feel like the I'm put look I'm putting you in front of chy [ __ ] [ __ ] the dumb [ __ ] oh no that's fact [ __ ] the dumb [ __ ] [ __ ] the dumb [ __ ] Bill's definitely in there if you got Steve [ __ ] I'm putting you in front of Steve too [ __ ] AI first team Gil second te see most of see the problem with some of ours is most of these guys didn't even play the whole nine years right Shaq is really only five years into the decade right I only really have six six years three dominant Tracy McGrady got hurt right he didn't he didn't finish a full season right so Paul Gasol should be in there cuz he played a good 10 years um in that era uh that move B down the honorable mention I think Ray Allen should make it Ray wasn't like that let me just be honest with you Ray Allen wasn't like that he was longevity he was a longevity type of guy he was he made a lot of Allstars but he was only top 15 two times in his career right so he was all NBA only twice chy moved down to honorable mention uh he was more he was more stable for us in that I'm not I'm not mad I mean it'll be it'll be very good but I wouldn't want want to pay against the the only person that scares me in 2010s is really LeBron KD coming together cuz last when LeBron turned into who LeBron is no Steph G I mean Steph remember Steph kicks in with 2015 yeah he cames in Rocking I got I got LeBron I got uh James Harden Kevin Durant marus Sol is your weak link you got [ __ ] triple double rest Brooks kawh Leonard is man yeah yeah he he crack there he a he ain't dominant he's coming in Anthony Davis is dominant Dwight is here coob is still a little bit of cob Dwayne Wade is 50/50 old dirk Draymond shouldn't be in there right um D in there that should be Dame lonard Blake Griffin and Kyrie Irving I can't pick it'll be a good ass match up but we do got a [ __ ] name Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Brant but I did yeah first team K Brandon why do you feel like the 2010s is better than the 2000s in terms of I mean we just elevated the game I mean but that's with any era like we just always elevate it just gets better um I mean three of the greatest players ever staff LeBron like it's all in this air all the great is in this shaking your head right now even Tim Duncan still is in our air you're not rolling with the 20 I watch I'm a student of this [ __ ] I ain't no [ __ ] that just watch sports center wait go back go back to our 13 a no Sports Center watching [ __ ] I'll do this hold on go back to our 13 yeah okay so look a lot of [ __ ] you got to move around no no no this is the only problem with the this is the only problem with with your with the third team in your era our era Mo like Dwayne Wade is Young Amari is Young Tracy McGrady is still young chanta is Young Paul Pierce is there when you talk about third team of y'all those are all old dudes those are dudes that's still in that was still like first team and second team in our era yeah yeah but still winning championships but what I'm saying is they wasn't they wasn't them dudes right our dudes is still young dudes that's making third team in your era our these a like our era wait wait wait hold on Kobe last championship was when 20 that 2010 so yeah but the 20 to all the way to 200 19 you got to remember you still got to go 10 years of a decade no but I'm saying yeah but that's my that's that's so that's them on their last leg that's how good they still work but that means that's how that means that it's our eror bro that's what he's saying our triing down to your eror it's our our our third team is not is not the 1990s so like when you go to go to 2010 y'all got a lot of our players in the 201 list that those that whole era besides Draymond green right that whole era is early 2000s period so well Draymond shouldn't be in there I no I'm there so basically even if you throw Carmello in there that's still that's still yep Carmelo only person that that last is Dame if you take Dame that's what I'm saying okay so your third team your third team is basically are are 2000s I mean dir D go n that's that's the only thing I say no actually I don't even know why they put Tim in there honestly CU yeah that's but that's what I'm but that's what I'm saying your third team is the the the the the bottoms of our our 2010 so like Tim dirt and and coob and Wade right I mean they're still dominant in your ER but you know they're damn near that's our first and second team you know you need a Dame you need Blake Griffin in there you need Melo see even Melo Is Still rocking with you need where's your Paul George and your Klay Thompson's and your Yiannis that should be your third team well yeah I'm Yiannis was back toback MVP yeah but that's what I'm saying I don't know who made whoever but that was before he was back to back no he he was back to back in 2020 2019 right 18 first MVP 1819 1920 Co year but that's what I said like your third team your third team should be a Yannis a Paul George a Dame Lillard uh um Kyrie Blake Griffin and your Blake Griffin that should be your third team like you have that as your third team 2010 for sure because we know what they are now but the fact that those are your team is [ __ ] running I don't know who made this you got n i mean c 96 so [ __ ] don't worry about wor about you know DK like said Dirk is 90 and Tim is 90 and they making they making third team so don't worry about the team so much as just the players right obv no you got I'm saying like just just the players from from the 2010s obviously there's some rollover from the 2000s but it makes what I'm saying is the fact that you got in your third team you got rollovers from the '90s fair like the third team is roll over from the 90s that lets you know yeah but you can bum I'm saying you can bump replace guys I mean yeah y'all 13 te yeah y I'm from this list but that's these first two come on I mean go back go back man look these players on this list man come on man what are y'all talking about like these players on this list right here get take Ben off that man take chy off that take Steve off that you implement Gil Vince Dwight like to be honest I'll add in probably mellow I'm throwing like like that's said ours is dominant like our third team is you know Dwayne is 2003 right so he's he infiltrated his six years and got dominant right uh Amari right right he's he became dominant to make this team Tracy is a run over where he didn't get his dominance until 2000 right Paul Pierce same thing Chanty same thing so these guys were dominant to make third team your your guys you got people that's from 96 in your [ __ ] team 96 97 98 but even but our first two teams are killing y you know our first two teams are killing that's why I debate is they're not killing us it is yes it is no they're not okay well go ahead debate okay debate with yourself literally debate with yourself don't matter literally don't matter literally your air your air it's okay this could be dead body number to it's okay Alan Ivon versus Steph Curry not a chance that is not a chance you know what that is excuse me you know what what is it cuz you know you can't say anything other than cuz y'all homies you can't say nothing yeah you you do everybody biased on here ain't nobody biased [ __ ] we talk our [ __ ] I like Alan IR Steph Curry you got Steph Steph Curry why what I mean he can why why not the camera's on you the camera put the camera back on him why why now explain why why not game I want to hear it we want to hear it better why better why is his game better cuz his game better what why is his game what part of his game is better his game better what part his game better let's hear it his game better this his game better I like to debate basketball think AI is cooking Alan Iverson is cooking Steph what and Brandon you say Habachi style Steph is cooking AI he ain't he can't explain why he shoot better game better I just said game better that's it I just said game was better what part of his game game was better come on [ __ ] you just another dead body talk he talking to explain to me when we look at these list and y'all want to talk about who better what let me hear it cuz I can go all day talk this [ __ ] I do this [ __ ] first of all who's buyers first of all who's buyers cuz we hung you just said LeBron Jes the best player on the get the [ __ ] out I say try to go to the I have a real that has over a million views I have I have a real that has over a million views over a million views that says me saying we're going to put these two [ __ ] got dick right we going to put these two [ __ ] out of the conversation we're going to put these two [ __ ] out of the conversation [ __ ] we talking about so am I friends with LeBron I we going to put all three of them out of the conversation then huh then you got to put all three of them out of the conversation you can't explain why Alan Iverson is not better than step then you bias cuz it's your homie it's not I just don't think I love AI explain reason why I have tattoos everything like [ __ ] everything but but do you think Steph will cook Ai No I just think he's a better player better play it be an intense matchup but Steph would emerge victorious in their head to head stop it and Rashad why do you think that AI generational dime dropper you know what dimes are buckets okay they ain't assist buckets I Get Buckets from all over the place midies lays FES but can you say Steph doesn't do that not the way Alan ion does not at the rate Alan Iverson does Allen ion better than Westell Westbrook 100% okay I'm a used La guy [Music] so Bubba Chuck live forever I don't want to guard none three of them I love it I love it I'm just bubble Chu I ain't trying to guard so I can tell you that for sure forever Bubba Chuck forever shout out to [ __ ] Allan I shout out to Al i' rather guard Russell first right I'd rather guard Russell first I'd rather guard Steph second AI third I appreciate that uh the reason I say Steph second is because um what he did against Sacramento right when he had that 50 piece on seven in game seven yeah that's what Allan tried to do every game so you know with with with curry even though him moving and stuff he gives you a time he'll give you some break Allan you like if as long as he's trying to touch the ball he's trying to shoot the ball right so that that was the only problem with trying to guard Allan Iverson like you you talk about the percentage right of 40 and 42 but that that 42 was on five right when you when we guarded Allan Iverson we did not care nothing about the other four players on the court no one cared about them other four no one knew them I can't even tell you the other four players this Eric snow cuz that's who guarded me I know it was Aaron mcke um I can't tell you Keith Van Horn Keith Van horns on the team I got what I'm saying I can't tell you the other the other players cuz it was that the the the keys was all Allan Iverson load up when he touch the ball load up double run at him that's it and he was still getting three 23 to 24 Shots up right so if you put better players on this team that we had to guard this man ain't passing the ball at all at this is not like he is not the same as as curry curry has a conscience of teammates Alan I him and Cole was two different mindset them dudes that you was just you was cones so what happened in Denver then like he played differently in Denver yeah but that's what I'm saying and that's why I said and that's my but that's my thing today he still average 26 Still With A mow with mow assist and assist was up right and everything that's why I'm saying today he would play just like that no because there he's not going to have a mellow on the team he's just going to have a dude that can shoot the ball you take Melo off that team and this like Kenan and all he ain't passing the ball period period bro I'm telling you bro um listen the only thing that stopped AI was Melo cuz it was his hometown if Melo would have went if Melo wouldn't have went the 76ers nah but I'm just saying there's only a few people that had the mindset as Allen no I get it no there's no there's no mindset like the mindset probably is what averaging you don't think James Harden had that mindset I'm averaging 35 but the only reason the only reason uh James Harden didn't average the only reason he didn't average 40 cuz he dribble too much dribbling too much that's the only thing but he could average 40 yes [ __ ] yeah okay if he didn't do if he didn't take 400 dribbles he would averaged 40 if you say yo just Jason Tatam it just just b boom boom and shot boom boom boom and shot hell yeah but remember he's sitting there probing probing probing probing and that's what takes away his shooting that's what takes away the opportunities of shooting but you remember if if if James hard is taking 40% of the team shots and you say all right well let's take out half the dribbling you still get the same 40% that means you're going to add 10 15 20 more shots into the game which you still get 40% of that so you're going to average 40 so we asked the chat who had the better era 57% said the 2000s 2000s 3600 votes another dead body listen only be only because they did the third team bad that third team jannis should have been in the third team Demar de rozan should have been there I mean you got players that like you got people picking championships but the talent that we have you got people pick mean I mean DRM is a it was less about the teams more just about the players in those eras players names or just names yeah but I'm saying taking the players okay from the 2000s so if they would have put Michael Jordan in the 2000s he put have made the the team B he' have been audible mention been on a played two years he would have been audible mention mention because it's Jordan so we also asked the chat uh would they rather take Steph or AI 53% said Steph so took L on that one nobody's back I'll take one I'll take my L's

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Length: 25min 25sec (1525 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 06 2024