Giles Martin: The Man Behind The Beatles' "Now And Then" Album

who is this fos his father was famously known as The Fifth Beetle and now putting the beat back into the Beatles Here Comes the Sun the last Beatle song now and then is out now so let it be more than Hello Goodbye as we welcome all smiles Giles Martin that was what that was incredibly impressive and unbelievably corny at the same time it was fantastic that was your best ever get that mic and drop it on the floor that was so cool Charles welcome to the show thank you for having me on the show it's an honor always to talk to you you're a lovely man um and we were talking whil that was playing Rachel had her headphones on to you were in you were in then weren't you you were totally immersed you were bathing in the Beatles um we've heard of the music musical Beetle Juice let's have some Beatles juice now from Charles Martin Giles um what was it like that's my only question off you go well I mean I have more questions yeah well I I knew that I knew that Paul was working on now and then which I didn't know existed funny enough I didn't I'm so rubbish on these things I was mixing uh he asked me to remix uh Wing Red Road Speedway Wings Al and he came to see me ABY Road and I somebody who works with me goes Paul wants to play this song and I was think God what if it's what if it's what if it's terrible I thought what what do you say to and it it was beautiful it was absolutely beautiful and and I just got the impression that you know it's become this thing and it came out last week and it's become the the record of of of the week or the year or whatever it was just a man in his house that had a tape of his best mate and he wanted to work with his best mate again that's what it was and it was beautiful and the fact that I got to you know collaborate with him on it and work with Ringo and and and the and the rest of the family it was just and and I you know I missed my dad he did all the beatless records I feel like I us usurped him even though he's G and just tried to rip him off with the string Arrangement what I did so that's what it was it's not your first Beatles radio though is it it's not I've been rer than yeah no it isn't I I yeah it's been it's been a long time I I did this project Called Love which was an album but more so a show in Vegas which still goes on where I sort of you know uh mashed up the Beatles to create a collage of sound um which I did when I was young and ever since then I've been doing you know people think I just I do Beatles but it's it's it's the thing I talk about and uh and yeah I never thought I'd ever be involved in this this band but I can't I'm always I never take it for granted but it's such a it's such a small unit you know there would be you know me Paul fing at Ringo talking about the drums talking about talk about the strange funny up Yoko and sha or Olivia and Dany and that's it and then we do it and then after a while it becomes this thing and it was like transatlantic was all digital you'll send them something they'll send you something yeah um Paul and I got together I flew out to LA right um he was and and and we got together and actually doing the string arange it was interesting um because he he said listen you know this is how he is he goes listen to what George is playing the guitar you need to appreciate what he's doing and make sure you follow that Rhythm listen that's his this this is you know this is a Beatles record and every member of this band's really good and you better make sure that you respect that's how it is it's it's not about you know it was more it was more about that than anything else and that's that's the thing that rides through anything you know you know I mixed revolver last year and he said you know isn't it incredible the way ring Gates the drums or the way I remember George playing this guitar po or John doing this that was it and with the technology we suddenly had JN John's voice and it's it's it's a Beatles record how much without Peter Jackson and get her back anyway which you're also massively involved in you just so funny so funny talking it was a lockdown project by the way he only mixed El and John at glenury as well you know one Sunday afternoon that went on there was it Saturday night I can't remember yeah was I Sunday last last last show yeah it seems like an age ago now um so so tell us about I mean we heard a bit about it there I mean obviously Peter adors The Beatles you and know good friends with Peter Jackson um what did he do what did he discover what is it that he created and invented with his genius um uh co-workers that we can now all we're all now benefiting from with to do with this song well it's it's it sounds um simple but it's incredibly complicated if you imagine being given a cake and then going okay I want the flour eggs milk and sugar everything back completely clean a separate hole that's what it's like so so so so we did this with get back there was a lot of um dialogue and guitars being played over the top because they're they're warming up and they're playing and and I couldn't understand why they're getting so clean and there's a guy called Emil deler brilliant name and I went you know he goes this is what we're doing and I said well can we apply this to music this with revolver tax man has drums Bas and guitars all on one track can you separate them and he go you're going to I'll send you stuff and then then you'll get back to me I was like yeah and and we worked collaborated on making this better to the state where it became incredibly good and so a cassette of John playing the piano in his house while watching TV we can then have Piano House noise voice and TV all separate if you put them back together they're exactly as they were so it's not AI generating anything it's AI learning what John's voice and extracting from the track and that's how we get his voice like so they do say you can't get the eggs out of a bit cake but you can if you're involved be because the Beatles can do anything can't they well that's what's lovely is that still you know we are the first the sergeant peppers for the first Dolby at album with still with the The Beatles demand new technology even now and that's what we're doing and what's what's really poetic about this whole hero's journey of The Beatles and their songs is is that the the early songs that I'm not going to say it was a Sausage Factory but they were quick man you know it was two albums a year and it was singles extra singles that weren't on the albums I mean they would they had to get on with it so to get a Beatle song you know from a demo whether it be whichever Beatle it was or combination of The Beatles to your dad then they'd break for lunch then he'd come up with a minuette in the middle of a song and it would make the song and then he'd come up with other things that break the songs then they put it all back together that was one thing and and getting it out there and that's why a lot of beat lyrics that come up for auction on the back of menus or plane tickets cuz they were on they were touring as well at the time it's mad wasn't it crazy to this one taking so long and I love that because it's so ironically the opposite of how songs the Beatle songs used to be made well yeah it when you say it took so it took so long from the from its generation to then they worked on it but when we're working yeah I mean like if Ringo said to me goes I'll listen to it twice and I'll play the drums twice yeah yeah that's what I do yeah so it's about yeah when when they're ready take off yeah it's just you know the string Arrangement that it's it's it people said did Paul did Paul spend a long time working yeah like it's Paul McCartney yeah you know he he he'll literally go I'll put some piano on it he'll go and put some piano and come back oh my go that's it it's not there's no the the the reason why people go what's the magic behind the sound the reason why is because people are really really good at what they do that's as simple as that and they all four of them chose to do it together and they could have all done it individually and they did do indiv and and they loved and they helped each other that's they had an empathy for whatever they had such an unbelievable and still do an unbelievable respect for what everyone does and that's the perfect band you know and you see that footage of Ringo put laying the drums down you know and he's back isn't he he's back you know that that's we talked about um Homer Simpson earlier on because he's ageless cuz he's carto character well when Paul picks up the guitar or starts thinking thinking music he he's the age he always was whatever that is well that's there's a video Peter Jackson made a video for this with with this for this ret track which people should watch cuz it's truly it's it's it's it's mindblowing because what it does it shows Paul now and Paul then it's a bit corny but what it does is you tell and I was told this you're 25 years old and you go your brain won't change you know things will get a you'll have experience you have kids everything will happen but most things won change you most things won't change you'll be the same person locked inside this body and that's what we own find out later on in life did you did you sense did it occur to you is it just occurring to me because I'm not you um and I want to be you um I want to be you did did you get a flavor a sense of how your dad might have felt in the middle of all this well we worked together on a track called gr with me which was from a John Lenin cassette years ago together and I think he would have loved this I think he would have loved the fact that um that he got a chance to hear John again and I think he would love the sentiment behind the song John was was brilliant writing Bittersweet songs now whether the song was written about Paul and the Beatles or the roning Beatles or written about Yoko it's under interpretation we'll never know but it has that feeling and the Beatles were always lucky and this sounds like the last Beatles song that's the that's the funny it doesn't sound like the called now and then it's like you couldn't you couldn't write it yeah well could if you were a beetle I suppose but no he did he loved it he absolutely loved it you um still go and see Paul um when you can in concert last time you took your mom I took my mom last time I took my mom last time to the O2 my mom sadly passed away um and we had we had her her funeral how life happens on the day of release this record um and she was a lovely lady and Sh and Paul loved her he sent me PA and ring s me lovely messages we saw him in concert the O2 the funny thing is I'm very tall I'm 6'4 I was standing watching him doing Hey Jude and he suddenly caught my eye and there was that moment where you know you I think if you look at a crowd you never met to see someone in a crowd especially at the O2 um and he F me up he me goes I saw you I saw you I was like know I'm sorry about that he missed a couple of Beats didn't he yeah he just stopped singing he like I waved at him it was like one of those moments could have been worse or better could have sang Hey hey Giles yeah that would have been that would have been the best yeah come on hey Giles Giles don't put me off I'm doing a gig is that your mom but he's just no Paul is just a lovely man he is a he really he is he is a he is a he is not only a genius but he's a lovely man and what this record and this it's people go oh you know is this the right what's the the motivation behind this motivation Paul really wanting to do something with John just in his house which he kind of did wow um loads of text dear chrisan everyone thank you for sharing that incredible clip on the program so beautiful so personal and intimate it's more than a clip isn't it we're calling it a clip but it was 12 minutes long significant a significant clip it's to the world of clip lips as the Indian Ocean is to a puddle um so beautiful so personal and intimate how amazing to go back in time with the Beatles I can't stop crying Joe and Hull you made my eyes start watering again thanks for playing that Mel from Herford currently running so can't make out if it's the rain or the tears that are escaping down my face I suspect it's the latter what a fabulous reminder of the even more fabulous four of course because of your age you're pres you know the odds are that you're going to be around for a lot longer than people close to the beetles or in the beetles I mean as your life um as you get older is that it is a responsibility isn't it I'm not I'm not that's not I hope it doesn't sound burdensome but it is a responsibility it's like my mom my mom was in the war so when she was telling me stories about the war it's from somebody who was in the war you know your dad basically was in The Beatles you are still around um the the sons and the daughters of The Beatles are still around um how's that going to be going forward I mean the first thing I say my dad wasn't in the Beatles Because it's very PR there was only the theme out there's only four of them and they experienc that life together and only they experienced that life together but I know but I know CL absolutely and love them and close them um for me the strange thing for me is you work on get back and I look like my dad and I sound like my dad you trying you trying to honestly you're trying to avoid these things in life you really do I don't you're as nice as your dad I don't want to be able to thank you I don't want to you know you don't want to be like your dad when you're growing up you know it's F when you're older and I watch I was working on get back and I was like oh my God I'm like my dad and the weird thing is I'm working on and he's younger than I am now doing get back and that's when I showed my like what e and out my daughters like look and they go is that you and I go no that's your grandfather in 1969 looking like a dude sharp as you like that's that's upsetting as well um but it is it it is it's it's you know you this is of all the people talking about you know you work on P's Rec we talk about the e ethics of doing it and I think there's so many more important things that are ethical in the world right now than whether I decide to put Ringo on the left hand side or right side when I'm mixing a track Everything's Relative everything is relative my point is is that music is the one is one of those things that can make people feel and stimulate memories happiness sad that doesn't do any harm at all and so if I can work on a Beatles project go wait a second I love Here There and Everywhere You know I love Strawberry Fields I love and they listen to it and even if they don't like the mix they just go they think about it and it's time you stop looking at your phones and you just listen to music and have memories know what I mean it's that's that's what's lovely about it and the Beatles were one of the best at it okay here we go then you went there not me not me I didn't go there you just went there okay Here There and Everywhere right across the universe in my life and um if I fell my four favorite beat of songs from the The Fab Four um what about you give me four give me four from The Fab Four I think I'd have to choose I really I I say that I say that I love the whole of ab Road as much as any I love the whole the ab Road medley at the end I love something on AB but I also love for no one I love in my life I love Julia um yeah the it's hard because it's hard it's stupid why did I do that that's just a stupid thing to do in front of GES actually do you know what I'm I'm going to I'm going to ple for the defense here I'm going to say that Here There and Everywhere reminding me most of those other three songs I just said for me they just come off the off the back of each other yeah I I just think that noran how good is Norwegian and the way people the way people just discover them the way new gener I was I was with I was with I was with Eva in the car and she said she was playing me like you know nobody does better car by Carly Simon and and Fleet with mac and then and then I this is great she put on yesterday I went yesterday she goes it's a good song dad go fair enough you know that's the thing o oar is a work of if you listen to O Oar with headphones so that none of the world can get between you and it there's so much going on there yeah how much that was your dad or the tool Sands and all this St I think you know his his background of as as his background of doing comedy records that was his that was his thing and he loved he loved all the things and then John and Paul and the Beatles loved the Goon shows and they and they were encouraged to make noises listen we've all got boxes in our garages of stuff right I was clearing clearing more out on Sunday you know rearranging the boxes and then we got we've all got LOF Falls of stuff as well what's the what's the what's the most interesting thing that You' found in one of your boxes Gil uh what do I have show me your box um you've been rooting yeah no not rooting a while back actually and and I I got to keep it and we passing down for Generations is we we found an acetate in The Loft we found two acetates and I took them to Abby Road what's an acetate so an acetate is is if you imagine um uh you can't say cassette anymore when you made a record the only way you could listen to it is by having it printed onto one side of a vinyl they vinyls with one side and that would be what you took home with you before it was made into a proper record and so a reference copy and they had two Estates and one was this m stranger man singing it turned out to be Peter eof doing Mozart which I think was a single my dad released and the other was love me too but the drums are weird I don't want to say what they were like but they were and I found out my dad I said that's weird drums he goes no I I think it must be Pete best and he goes no we never recorded it with Pete best and it was the only copy of Love Me Do with Pete best and it went on the Anthology I've had that since yeah since then yeah so so that was that was a good box not that you'd ever sell it you'd never do it you know it's that thing it's like you know but what a thing to find I mean yeah like what um so you yeah I bet you got lots lots of boxes like that right well come on we're almost out of time what else um around this anything else around this anything else we can get EX even more excited about it's number one for Heavens number one around the world I'll tell you what i' I'll tell you what I've done um we we remix the red and blue albums now for a generation which is which is which is my which is my generation the red and Browns were proper Bonafide Beatles albums they're like Queen's grer HS or Bob mly legend or that's the it's it's it's that thing and what has been probably the most exciting including now in breakthrough for me I use Peter Jackson's technology which is being to separate um things the cake together and the early tracks like I saw her stand there I Want to Hold Your Hand hard hard day night is immense now you can hear Ringo's Kick Drum and snare drum I know I I played it to I I played it to I I'm good friends with pen and tell pen is a mass and he came over the sh just recently and I said I said look press the button he goes where's the song gone I went that's that's the original what's happened is and what we do is we Ringo George John and then we put them back to the studio 2 in AB Road and we re-record them the band are in the room and people should listen to red and blue albums are they out now sorry I know they're out on Friday they're on Friday okay that's it done deal coming soon buying those buying those Charles it is a joy to talk to you it's such a pleasure to see you again Chris remember when you came in to talk about the love show yeah um was that 20 years ago it yeah it's been going for 17 years oh my gosh I thought that was like a couple of years ago you came in to talk about that the first time we met I think yeah it was the first time we met wo all right great to see you and guess where he's going off to work now Abby Road cuz that's where he works you you clock into Abby Road every day you every day that's hilarious what's the food like the food the food's good ab I can't say it isn't can I the as I walk in people go people outside go hello Char and I think I know them like how and they go how are you doing how how fine how are you they go no I don't know you I'm just standing outside heavy Road and um who's who's been around ABY Road recently doing amazing things oh we've had we've had a we've had quite a few films I haven't been there because I've been dealing with lots of doing this um I've just finished just been finished doing an Amy wi house film wow last day of recording was yesterday so the and the girl playing her is amazing so doing that there all right mate well it's great to see you thank you so much now and then by the Beatles is out now the brand new single from that's just good funjoy go have a go the brand new single by The Beatles yeah you let go this is cuz it's true this is coming up next now and then by The Fab Four yeah all right cheers Jes thank you

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Length: 19min 48sec (1188 seconds)

Published: Wed Nov 08 2023