Getting Real with Abena KorKor: Delving Deeper into Her Mindset and Straight Talk about Zionfelix

[Music] live from the Cactus Creek at I he is the king of prime time Ghana's Undisputed entertainment lauran and still the youngest old man in Ghana put your hands together show some love for the indefatigable [Music] KSM the KSM show thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you this is going to be a very very Splendid production and I'm telling you call a friend to call a friend to call a friend to call a friend you know and when we talk about bipolar I don't want to put it this way but there's one person that is very well known in Ghana as having going through bipolar and she's here with me she's not here by herself she's here with her Uncle who is she that I'm talking about I'm talking about the famous or should I say Infamous is in the house show and she's here with an uncle who uh Reverend Charles apia who's also very very very well informed and knows a lot about bipolar today we're going to be really encourage not encouraging educating you to understand what Bola is all about so we're going to take a short commercial break when we come back you meet AB C and the uncle chaia stick around we'll be right [Music] back the KSM show is it the luxurious [Music] rooms oh the serene green [Music] surroundings is it the tempting swimming [Music] pool or The Classy conference room or the cute gift [Music] shop maybe is our Chef's array of cooking [Music] Delights whichever way it's all about Cactus [Music] Creek a most respected Hotel 055 039 57 [Music] the KSM show we're back we're back we're back we back Mr charlesia welcome let MEK welcome to the show thank you welcome to the show thank you okay um I really appreciate you being here today we're going to do a lot of Education thank you and educating on what the whole bipolar thing is about and when I was introducing my SE the program I said should I say famous or inFAMOUS AB is here AB let me start with you uh you are known for being bipolar first of all what is bipolar and why do you have your uncle with you here okay so according to uh the medical school the Ghana medical school I had my education in UCC I did baromedical science I did human Behavioral Science as a cause we Define bipolar disorder as an abnormal Behavior first of all abnormal behavior behavior when Society see that you don't conform to the norms and culture of the society they term you as abnormal and I know the way signs they always changing things I know one day they will come and tell us that bipolar means you are a a God or a goddess so they should worship us so I know it's coming but medically medically it's an abnormal behavior it means um um it's a mood disorder that has two different poles it's not like 6:00 your mood will change or no no no no no it Tak a mood disorder a mood has two different poles two different P Mania and and and depression so Mania is when you're super excited that's when you see me on social media telling everybody my excuse my language F in mind I'm not supposed to say that on TV and that's the Mania that's the Mania I'll be shopping I'll go to shops I'll take you know everything in the shop I'll empty my bank accounts I can give all my money to my friends you know there are some friends who take advantage of me you know sometimes I was doing drugs by the help of God you know uh one day at a time I'm reducing the frequency you know and all of that I've been to rehab and all of that so that's the minia what what's the other minia and then depression depression I've actually stayed in bed for one year bed read and I was wearing two clothes you know bed weding for one year you were depressed I was depressed did you eat I was not eating I lost we everybody was asking what was your secret what was your secret weight L I was coming to do weight loss shake for them and sell it but they didn't know was depression and I was like for the fear of God I will not do it so you were in bed for one year without food or minimal food I guess I was just drinking tampo tampo for one year tampo if I eat like my mommy will tell you she she doesn't like TV I was bringing here she was the one taking care of me and clemento Suarez you come and bring me I cut everybody off say you I've called you to tax you but I didn't call you my Captain I didn't call them pulse I didn't call them okay let me have a word with your uncle yeah REO should I call you reu yeah how many of these cases have you seen case of bipolar well I've I've seen a lot a lot yes and uh sometimes it's quite difficult to talk about some of these things in terms of mentioning names or mentioning some of the instance because uh it might be very close to what somebody might be sitting down and maybe thinking that this this what this man is talking about my issue but I'm saying I've I've seen a lot because most of these cases people frown on these and I believe say people frown they frown about the general public yes of course they frown on because yes they they don't want to have anything to do with people like that because they you know I've not said that this this is a case that people within the community they they think that you are not behaving the way you're supposed to behave so they don't want to have anything to do with you but I came to understand that one of the things to be able to uh help people like that is to be closer to them M let me tell you something you know if somebody is in a bad how would you help the person out of that bar company how would you do that the only way you can do that is for the one that seems to have a good life or good uh image to be closer to that person so that you can rather draw that person closer to you but it's it's on the other way around the people believe that when they the person is acting that way he's not acting based on what they want for that they sh them and that is why we having most of these people around we thought that they are causing troubles they are not helping I mean these are the things that are happening in the system and I believe that we should take advantage of this and then go closer to people like that and show them love I know that uh as a minister there there's something that is going on that obviously people believe that is a problem when people come up to say that they are bipolar and all that stuff you talk about people who wants to be closer to them the ministers that go close to them most of them do take advantage of these people because of that it's given us a bad name and for that matter even if you want to be closer to some of these people in quote they think that you are also part of take advantage of them eventually absolutely but I want to say that it's not like that it's not everybody that does that m there are people with genuine mind who are behind the scene doing great things in fact honestly it's because of the respect that I have for you that is why I honored this because I wouldn't because I wanted to be behind the scene all the time making sure I'm able to help people to get some of these things done so I've been doing a lot and I don't I don't want to talking many cases that you have dealt with telling you yes I mean I I would do that I will have it one one with you behind the scen and I will speak to you about some of okay okay at what point did you get interested in happiness Cas okay let me just quickly uh tell you this I kept watching the YouTube and all that stuff and I was coming across most of the videos and I became very sad about the whole thing because I saw abna as somebody who has a lot of prospect a lot of Prospect and she also uh she's very presentable and I believe that she could do a lot but that issue has marked her in a way that is not making her able to do what he's supposed to do so I said to myself now listen to this is something I need to come in because you see Ministry work is like uh you know a doctor you know somebody being a doctor MH there are specialities you know what I mean there are specialities if you are a minister doesn't mean that you know everything there are areas that God has gifted you that you can really perform okay there are certain people that they'll be doing something you will call 100 people to come and talk to them they will not listen you call one person to come and talk to them they will listen it means that person is gifted in that sign so I saw that okay this is something I've been doing a lot and it's getting me somewhere and I'm getting a good result on that so why don't I also jump into ab's life and see what we can do did she invite you or you saw the video did inter I I I approach her myself I decided to approach her because I thought that there is something that I can do to help your situation because people think that well medical situation is there whatever but the therapy is something that I think we need to dwell on yeah if we're talking about okay just one second AB so when he intervened did you trust him or did you think in your mind that people know that I'm un vulnerable at this stage and they come to take so about you did you trust him right from me I read energies and people feel I'm stupid I'm very smart and observant so if you're energ is not good I can read for sometimes I like to play a full and then pay you back later so you read his energy and you you trusted him so you trusted him man okay let's stick with the case cuz you're creating some comic relief so you from you're learning from me yes thank God it's F when get some so so so back to the the issue so when he came what was it about him the aura the AA the aura can feel the person's energy what did he tell you the first time you came in oh I don't remember everything plus it came like we have very mutual friends and family yeah yeah okay yeah we've I've gone to the same school with family members and all of that yes I go to his church sometimes and you know I build trust like you know um I when I even meet people I don't ask too many questions you know I like I'm very very observant and then I know what to take to which person yeah yeah those are on they get you can't bring my foolishness to your face I can't do that so let let me find out from ru your first meeting yeah with her yeah to offer her that trustworthy protection that you that you believe you have naturally gifted with yeah sure okay yeah what was your first experience were you convinced that you can work with her you can oh AB absolutely when we met the first time I saw that it's something that can work it can work because I saw her mannerism and uh her behavior I saw her to be a very respectful person yeah because I've met a lot of people their first approach you know you are able to tell what what they really want to do or the kind of communication they want to have with you and what really made me convinced about my move to continue to be by her and help her is her ability to respond to the kind kind of uh request I made you know let me just give you a gist of it for example every morning since the time we met every morning I send her message to ask her whether she's done her devotion she will do it and then she send me a a response she's never miss it m she does it all the time every time when I send it so it's one of the things that I saw that if I want to help you there is a way you also need to help me for me to help you and that is one of the things that I've observed about her so right from the concept I saw that she's somebody that can really uh I can also offer that help too yeah how long has it been since you started help um I mean it's not been long just about two two two months two months within two three mon months yes yeah and so far everything has been yeah I I think it's working up yeah I think is working out because one of the things that I observed is uh people always want to see her out there I don't know what other people think but I think that based on the post and the comments that I normally read it tells me that when she is going around doing some of the things most people are happy with it even though it might not be a presentable thing you understand what I'm saying but I thought that no it's not that people are praising you they are praising you but they don't like what you're doing they don't want your good so I would rather find a way of communicating it to her so that she would know that listen I need to sit back and then start thinking about my life life as to how I can put my life back on track so these are some of the things that I kept communicating and I think the respond has been very very good and uh one of the things I also did was that I told her listen you can stay away from social media stay away from social media yes it's one of the things that I told her straight away stay away from social media hide yourself put yourself together and by the time you come out you see that will see you as a different person so are you avoiding social media now oh I only put advocacy and then entrepreneurial stuff I don't run so much if I run small B and it has to be very very important what what what makes you have you accepted him as somebody you can trust who's there for you goodness yes yeah it came from Mar so it's very good references and you have no doubt whatsoever that oh no no I can see you know the aura of God the Dove and everything you I see the dove around I'm saying this and really re oh there are lot of good pastors oh there's a lot of what there are lots of good pastors lot of good pastors okay no I'm saying this really hoping that yeah you have actually found a good pastor who is there to help you and you're also going to Avail yourself to understand where he's coming from and do the things that will heal you it's a team but right now it's like he is living P constant every day Hammer what their team their team they are coded they are part of their fraternity so you can't mention the fraternity like that ISAT I want you to explain what you just said because I very trying to she's just trying to I didn't this F just hide the names of the people that are involved in what we trying to do like I said earlier on that I had even decided to just stay behind to do what I do most but I thought that sometimes you need to come out to also uh speak to the public at least to know that this is what is also going on that is the reason why so is this bipolar issue that you talked about at some point the two poles yeah one is being Manic and the other is being depressed is this a physical thing that can be worked on medically yeah to to create a balance yeah or you need a holistic you know a holistic your Bible therapy having a good support systems I have a support group my NGO psychosocial Africa you know the bloggers I even did an interview with Human Rights Watch they don't PST the importance things you know they are Cloud Chasers and they like chasing coins they don't like Global money they don't like the big big generational withth money they like live even they buy fake ones so don't post important and relevant issues that's why it's not every interview that I go I'm quite selective 7 you be you I've given you such a big platform then you'll be asking stupid questions so so so when when when a blogger is talking to you you are aware that they asking relevant or questions I am aware I me I'll give it to you every time they say that this boy is's not intelligent why do you even go for his interviews but sometimes it's aing then you educate them because they don't know some things AB let me put you on the spot for just a quick minute yes you know things that you have done yes things that you have said yes has been used against you yes right yes these are things that you did or said that it's not that people came up with it they were based on certain things that came from you yeah capedan since the day live with no regret I have I have I have low inhibitions so I may not be able to control it but I remember everything in my mind is working fine I just have high levels of my happy hormones we call them neurotransmitters serotonin dopamine all those things and even my medication now I'm on lithium carbonat is worse than cocaine when I was in Dr INF for in my clinic I destroyed AC's used my hand to break the Lou I was cutting myself TV3 paid like over 60,000 cities I don't know if they finish paying thank youv and the so let me let before you continue when you when when you are creating damages you aware you're doing it I'm a way it's nice you feel like Hulk you feel like you're Hulk so it's not every day that I take my I want I want re to come here you see you see this is this is the sad aspect of the whole thing you know uh the physical aspect of it is what sometimes makes me a bit sad you know when you ask her she said that she's aware she's doing it but is it the right thing so what triggers that thing yes that is the question we need to ask ourselves and if something can you what triggers yes what I mean if the person is there especially when he doesn't have people who really love her to talk to her and all that stuff and feel a bit depressed these are the times that he begins to I mean through tantrums and all that stuff so one of the things that I think I have been telling her is a constant reminder of uh probably good things about her and I will just show you something I posted something to her just yesterday I took one of her beautiful pictures m and I wrote underneath it that I I pray that God will restore your life for you to look like what I'm seeing and she came back to me and said thank you for this important reminder you know what it means so I'm just reminding her of who she is and by so doing if that thing continues what I believe is that it will affect the mind and R let me take a commercial break right here when we come back we shall continue this very interesting discussion F stick around we taking a short commercial break when we come back we'll be here again with r and ab stick around we'll be right [Applause] 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exciting episode of the km show and we're looking at bipolar we have in the house of Nako uh who known as having B Po and her uncle rvo I'm calling her him R is actually Reverend I love that you so REO um where before the commercial break yes you talk you talked about how you sent her a picture yeah to remind her of what she has been before who she is is that a way to try to get you to connect absolutely that's I think that's one of the uh ways that we can use to bring people's mind back on on track you know because you know when somebody has done something before and then the person has lost it one of the ways is to bring her mind or his mind back on it that this is who you used to be and uh if you want to experience what you used to experience then you need to come back to L okay you have to come back AB you saw that picture of who you used to be and how did that affect to I feel good my skin was beautiful I was like tell me I don't bleach I just use sh and coconut oil so you felt good about the picture I felt good about it I'm like okay I'm coming back to myself like my body is coming me I'm cous girl bous and Afric like body see the way other the guys are smiling so you you you you the picture took you back somewhere in your life where you thought it was actually my 30th birthday I had just got to my appointment with TV3 yeah are you still with in my yeah I'm still with TV3 I'm on the AO you're on the AO yeah what program do you host there I'm in corporate Communications production and sales I work behind the scenes oh so you're not on on on camera okay so I have a show coming up we've done the promo and everything they sometimes they feel I'm a little local so they want me to okay before they put me on the screen but I have a surprise for them R yes how confident do you feel that whatever strategy you are employing is now working and then and that we can finally say that she is on the menend can we I'm very very confident I'm confident because you know when you begin to discuss something with somebody and you see signs of the person's response it tells you where you are head headden towards you know so based on the response and uh the way things are going I believe we getting somewhere and I'm very very confident that by God's grace we will get there people will see it doesn't bother you that only 3 months and that there's some shocker no no you know sometimes you will not you will not get what you want straight away which is part of the work we doing what did you see there there are there are people that you know you follow them and it takes you five years two years three years there are people that when you speak to them just three months they they accept you you know but because of the time differences and the the period you should understand that you're not going to get it the way you want it all the time so you need patient to be able to handle every situation that confronts you yeah I think that that's that's where it is mhm you ask me what I said so I repeat what I said ask him you know is there a shocker somewhere line are we safe do you drink suar do you drink sugar do I what one day I Dr the first time I drank suar four bottles I went to big bed at me and some guy be from Kasa I mention his name no don't mention his I don't want anybody to come and they I see if it's the truth I'm sharing my last story you when you came you did only good things I can't go and say anything bad about you what will I say that can steal me you can see me those who wanted me to say bad things about they came to do the bad things so P when they are doing the bad things why do you let them why don't you stop them or why do you let them do the bad things and then after that out of curiosity I want to watch how far they will go how how stupid they think I am and and after you wor them going I L of power when I was like 14 or 12 out of all I like a what do you call it Japanese and Chinese dynasties I read my Bible I read my Psalms Quran hind do you know I chant I meditate I have some small missing somewhere in the so you do all of them oh I'm curious I'm a scientist I do research I like philosophy you're listening to her right now what is going through your mind you know I I came to understand I Mi of so many things also bring confusion m to the mind yeah so one of the things that I think I'm trying to urge her to do is to be able to set her mind on one thing yeah because bringing all kinds of things around May confuse you they not give you the free will to understand what the life you are leading is about and and and and and is that an accepted part of being bipolar or something that can be controlled yeah of course I mean uh in that sense it it's part of it but I think that on this Earth there's nothing that you can do anything about it everything has a solution even if you cannot solve it completely there is a way of doing something to limit it you understand so whether it comes as part of it or not I believe that we can still do something about it and that is the reason why I've decided to go through this process yeah with abam how long is he going to work on you you start you see my you papa AB he's trying to help you you introduced him to me I didn't know him yes you call [Laughter] me he understands he helping and and and so now that you understand that he helping you yes how are you making him confident say he's on the right that's all so you believe on through all the changing scenes of life and if y see is my helper is there a spiritual angle to this uh well I mean when you want to talk about this and you want to bring spirituality into it a lot of people don't understand they think that no no no no no don't bring spirituality into these things but on this Earth there is nothing that doesn't have a spiritual backing it's a very clear thing in fact this is something that everybody should understand everything that happens physically obviously has a spiritual backing yeah it happen in the what is your assessment of the spiritual angle all right so but my assessment on that side is you know every issue has a a source you understand what you are experiencing here they didn't start one day that's one thing you should understand so it is possible that it may have a a family link we might not know yeah so something could could have happened that has resulted into that but I don't want to go into details no I understand I understand because there's so much that and so how long do you think with the experience that you have yeah and you have encountered a few other cases yeah sure with all that experience how long do you think it will take to nail that ah this is what I'm looking for is there a such a thing like that well normally you cannot come out straight away to give uh a particular timeline but you can set it for yourself if I tell you then it means I'm I'm telling you it's going to take one year and then you put me online that okay in the next one year this is the results that we we need to see as far as what rev is saying is concerned but the point is that if he gets to that point and you don't see what you are looking for you might tell me that I have failed in what I'm doing haven't accomplished exactly but that is something that you don't bring it into this circles that's why I said that you know there are people that have followed them for more than 10 years really before they became well established in Christianity yes more than 10 years I had that faith that Bel that trust and still continue to follow them sometimes you go and they are smoking they are doing this they are doing that patiently have a word with them pray with them and you go quietly you know there was a time I went to a beer bar to minister to some young people when I got there one of the guys he was about to drink and he look at my face he says rev let me take my last glass before I Surrender you know these are funny funny things that happens when we meet people like that but what can you do what is the reason why you've gone there are you there to force the person out of what he's doing no you are there to encourage that person to bring him out of that situation so that patience is needed you need that patience and also one thing that I want to say is that every Minister needs self-control that is also very important selfcontrol yes 100% if you know you don't have the strength to do certain things don't go there at all there are people I remember some time ago I overheard somebody saying that he doesn't hug women Minister yeah Minister said that yes and you know I don't have a problem with him people started bashing him you know it's not right to say that well I don't have a problem with him why because I got to understand that that is his weakness when he that is his weakness so he doesn't want to go there at all there somebody you can maybe you might be a minister but when he set he set his eyes on the uh drinking spot or when he enters there now we have to carry him on a stretcher that is his weakness he's not supposed to go there at all but when you get to know that God has given you the urge and the strength to be able to do something and you can do it why not you should be able to do it because you are there to help the people what's your weakness oh well I mean I am very emotional about when I see people uh being Limited in things like uh people don't have money they don't have something so I don't mind taking everything on me like money I don't mind entering my account and giving it to people I think to me is a weakness on my side yeah so I'm trying to sometimes to be a little bit hard that no no no this one I need to be careful not to not because the person look Qui I mean that playing emotional games that you need to respond to that it's not everything that you need to respond to that there are some you need to close your ears on that so that is another part talking notice that when he's talking you have a very serious face you listen very very attentively it's wisd but when when I direct the question at you then you make it whole you make it light laugh why oh you know media I like comedy you like com I come for training come forain than God is fighting it's sped by KSM okay can okay now you have uh reel here and he is here seriously talking about how he's going to set you straight oh yes so he he's not he's not being he's not doing comedy at all oh me when I'm foing I'm serious everything I say I'm serious some people think I'm joking but you're serious I'm serious nobody pays me when I see something people they say oh the government has set me money me I did for six s cyber security I know all those things so me I know that when somebody wants to Su me I need to come you know I've had a federal case before so when the feds are coming for you when I'm coming for you trust me I'll coming with ammunition Ria okay so so so you brought Revol in to beat me yes as somebody who is guiding you yes and keeping you on the straight and narrow ah is that what he's doing I'm me of Israel and yesc you must be used to this does he always make light of things I've never seen her like serious I see her in that mode but there when it gets to serious issues we sit down and I tell her straight away this is what we need to do because I want to get the results stct yeah so when it gets to that point I tell her this and this and this and that that's it and then I leave and I'm expecting her to do her part that's it yeah what your assessment so far you let's say after this you go and you telling her look when we went to the KSM show we you see we see what what what how would you review her appearance on the yeah of course I mean uh there are things that I thought that he could have taken it more serious based on the question you are asking her so that's one obviously is one of the things that we need to sit down to discuss yes of course did you hear him yeah what did he say oh I'm supposed to be doing interviewing skills I have to refresh my notes and he he was hoping that there were some of the things you would have taken a bit more serious than make it into a the young people they don't if you don't make it com they won't Le if you make it too comical to they don't Le oh no I make this one I've given her a lot of lecture notes to read she had to Google you folks weing she actually called me and said been on your show once we're talking about bipolar issues because because bipolar is it Day is coming up I want to come on the show again so that we can continue with our education yeah you know so I must admit I I I was expecting listen the first time you were on do you remember yes you very serious and that was the first time that you had me understanding bipolar cuz you were very serious you explained it you even you in recovery now yes okay know you home chilling you see it's one of the things that we have also spoken about yeah because I observ that most of the interviews that he he's been having some of the questions that they ask it's not right it's not good they just say in in a form of trying to I mean get something get something trigger something and on course of that she also happened to say something that might go wrong and people start I mean you know what I mean talking and all kinds of things so it's one of the things that uh recently he had uh an appointment he will tell you and when he sent the post to me I watched it and I told her you are not going for this interview because even the the topic they gave you is not right it's quite sensitive and obviously is going to trigger certain things and that's where the problem comes in you know so when I said it she understood it and I communicated with the people that were supposed to do the interview they understood me and they said that that's fine it means we're not going to have it because I want to make sure as much as I want to help there are very important things that we need to put down mhm yeah so that at least we will be getting somewhere okay and that's that's the the the format that I will take yeah sure well R let me let me commend you thank you it's it's it's a your mind's job you know she has said herself you know that she's coming from B bipol bipolar background with two extreme mens and how you're going to navigate between these two poles to get us straight is not an easy job absolutely but I'm happy to learn that you have devoted yourself to making sure that you can accomplish it yeah and and she herself trust you even when she came I said can we start until you come no no no I want him to be here so that he can be a part of the conversation from the start which gives me the impression that she's aware that she's on the men and she knows what the boundaries are yeah sure so keep staying on the I [Laughter] bra thank you so much bless bless you I [Applause] appreciate thank you for what's wrong with your leg my leg yes should I bring you walking stick I have the two one no I don't need a walker I go running every morning oh I saw you at the gym oh that was long ago find no pain that's a pain when you reach my age and you wake up and you don't have a pain you must be worried my last joke before one time one time one time I something is wrong cat wife honey something wrong was see I feel absolutely fine you know right 20 minutes later my wa what did you use the for now now we talking I'm old so thank you very really appreciate you my pleasure my pleasure [Laughter] had education of bip today we have to wrap it up and I'll wrap up as I do all the time in the same old words that KSM standing of saying that I am out of let the whole world say yeah where [Music] one [Music] the KSM show

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