From Delta Operator to Professional Mercenary | Dale Comstock | Ep. 151

special operations covert ops espionage the team house with your hosts jack murphy and david park hey everyone welcome to episode 151 of the team house i'm jack murphy here with david park d over in that direction producing we're very excited here to be with our guest dale comstock dale is somebody who has done a little bit of everything kind of done it all in life dave uh dale has served uh in the 82nd airborne in special forces served as a delta operator i believe dale you were the youngest operator in the unit at the time when you when you graduated selection uh this guy this guy participated in operation acid gambit the uh kurt muse hostage rescue mission in panama the first that was the first successful military hostage rescue operation historically that uh our country's ever done uh dale served in the gulf war served as a team sergeant um and then he retired and went on to become a paramilitary contractor had further adventures uh over in afghanistan which we're going to talk about a little bit in a moment and then you know dale uh he wrote a a memoir called american badass he thought this was kind of his sunset book he was going to fade away into the ether after he finished this book but instead crazy things keep kept happening to him uh in places like yemen hong kong singapore and even in hollywood so uh we're gonna talk a lot about dale's sort of post-service military career there's there's a lot more to dale i think you should go read american badass if you want to hear more about his military career we're going to kind of talk about his post-service post-military career and get into some of the things that he's doing today and some of the books he's working on so dale thank you so much for joining us from from bali tonight yeah man thanks for having me it's pleasure yeah absolutely man um so sticking with that theme that that little uh um intro that i went off on i was wondering if you could start off telling us some stories about barja matal in afghanistan i believe you were part of a very small group of people that got sent up into i mean that was really bad guy country and the terrain just vicious up in that part of afghanistan yeah so um there were actually three fobs up there and each fob i believe had a roughly about a platoon a platoon plus element occupying this flop earlier a couple months earlier one of the fobs had been overrun and uh when the encampments had been overrun and i think there was a total of nine casualties nine americans were killed um a lot of ballot afghanis um of course taliban and so the decision was made to pull up the other outposts the other two outposts that were up there and one of them was uh you know barge fatal and uh the way i can dis so we were asked uh by a u.s mill if we could bring our guys in to help support their withdrawal so what they were going to do is rip like literally in the course of three days they were going to literally take everything out of this camp and ex uh extract it so the camp was in a valley um was nothing but high ground all the way around it and it was as you point out it was some really uh rugged terrain it kind of reminded me i remember landing at night one time thinking man this feels like the jungles of panama you know very wooded very humid um very uh you know rough terrain but uh but they were sitting right down in this little in this little little tiny valley man and the camp was probably 150 meters square maybe it was very small it had one little hlz in the middle that could support one helicopter landing on and that was it um and this platoon had been there for at least a year already and they got no break man they were literally every day gun fights um they couldn't even leave the wire to go patrol and they were constantly on defense they were getting hammered down there and so the decision was made to we got to pull them out but they couldn't just bring in helicopters the guys would load up everything and fly away because as soon as the helicopters would come in they would you know they would be in contact so so the plan was uh for us me and my guys are flying in um we they actually they brought us in we flew in on uh some mi-17s and we had two lifts we went in i think there's probably a total of about 30 of us me and two other americans and then the rest afghans and we flew in the middle of the night roughly around 10 11 o'clock at night got out met with the commander and basically he explained to us what the what the mission was basically what they wanted us to do was go outside the wire and patrol the area around uh the base camp and basically just keep the bad guys back keep them engaged so that the soldiers within the camp could load their gear um they were going to bring in some helicopter they were going to load up they actually had a humvee there too i don't know how they got that there why they were using it but they had humvee they're going to take that out um they were just going to load up these aircraft over the course of three days and just keep lifting everything else lifting everything else out of the camp and hopefully by within 72 hours the camp will be evacuated in the meantime our job was just go out there make contact with the bad guys and keep them back so this operation could take place well i remember that night we arrived we met with the captain um told them what we're going to go do we refitted and then we went out the wire and we had our mission was to go up the road about maybe four or five kilometers there was a madrasa up there and the taliban used that as a staging face basically they would link up there you know get on their war paint [ __ ] and then uh you know they would launch their assaults from there so we were just going to go meet them there at the madrasa and get it on so as we leave the wire we're walking up the road it's uh relatively dark and and then all of a sudden um the first ch-47 is flying in it's going to land they're going to load it and then it's going to take off with its uh with its supply well as the helicopter was coming in to a you know a very slow and low hover um there was a taliban on the other side of the wire with an rpg and guess what he does he shoots it down and it crashes into the [ __ ] camp and so yeah on to the only hlz they got right so bam it slams into the into the deck um the round went through the floor of the helicopter it actually took off the leg of one of the crew chiefs um so now we've got a disabled helicopter sitting inside the camp um they can't get it out they can't do anything with it they can't bring in more helicopters can't motivate medevac to guys out and then the firefight started so we turn around and you could just see green tracers coming down from the high ground red traces going up you know and there's a full-on fire fight man and so we're standing there going okay well what do we do do we try to go back and uh support them but then we knew that would be a problem because trying to re-enter you know friendly forward lines you know we're going to get caught in a crossfire there's gonna be a there's gonna be drama with that right so we realized okay there's nothing we can do out here let the let the army the military you know deal with those guys and then we're gonna continue mission so we go up the road we make it to the madrasa and it's a dry hole there's nothing there so we're like okay let's move it on up push up at about another four kilometers there's another village up there again we know this is uh this is all taliban country and so we go up there as we're crossing the bridge we get uh words that we got squirters going out the other side of the uh of the village so anyways they they clear the village to get away nothing happened uh we come back that morning um the fire fight's over and uh you know we refit regrouped and while we got this issue with this helicopter sitting in the camp now what are we gonna do so um what was really interesting was and i didn't know this but apparently the armies they have pilots that are specially trained to fly crippled aircraft right so what they did is they brought us one there's one badass pilot man and they roped them in the fast row and his job was to go down there and start that aircraft um and fly it fly out of there wow you know broken home and yeah i didn't know that you know i was like damn this guy's got some balls man one guy man that's his job right and so uh so when they brought him in they roped them in and uh then they brought a bunch of fast movers came flying in and basically was straight from the the hillsides uh to keep the bad guys down while this guy was you know you know turning knobs and pulling levers and cranking this thing up he actually got it out of there he actually flew this this broken helicopter out of that uh hlz he cleared it up for us um so we decided okay the next night we'll continue mission and we decided okay let's go i forget the direction but uh i think it was west we said we're gonna go west there's a village about six kilometers away we know the taliban stage is out of here also and so we're just gonna go down there and you know set up an ambush knowing they're gonna come and hit the camp that night and we're just going to ambush him so so we take off and i remember we're walking around this this ridgeline it's really steep man i mean really steep and uh we're walking on a goat trail that was maybe 18 inches 24 inches wide it was real muddy and slippery there's a lot of water running down and we're wearing night vision goggles it's pitch black there's a lot of trees and uh we're cruising along cruise along and then all of a sudden i hear my interpreter behind me fall off the cliff right and he and he falls like maybe i don't know 20 25 30 feet down the side of this cliff right he and he lands on the little ledge down there and i could hear him you know you know making you know hoof and the puffin sounds and stuff and and i turn around and look down and i see him and i see what looks like just his whole face is like black and the black was actually blood i would wear night vision goggles so it looked you know it was dark black but it was all blood and uh he knocked his teeth out his teeth were sticking out through his lips his gums and stuff and uh and i i looked at his name was hd we call him hd for harley davidson right he loved harley davidson even though he'll never own one that was this thing you know so we always call him hd i go hd you okay yes sir i'm okay that's sir yes sir i'm like you don't look good and so we finally we would pull him up and i'm looking at him like holy [ __ ] dude you're a mess and uh and then he begins to explain to me how that was the first night he ever wore night vision goggles are you kidding me this is the first time you've been on operation and you're wearing mvgs on a goat trail and uh i'm like holy [ __ ] man what were you thinking dude and so anyways um you know he fell off the cliff because he couldn't see because he didn't use he didn't know how to use night vision goggles properly and uh so we're sitting there and we had a uh a navy medic with us and i bring him back corman and he's kind of patching up you know hd and then while we're sitting there we're looking with the thermals we could see so we're on this ridge line we can see directly across to another ridge line about 250 300 meters across from us and we notice a small fire burning and uh and so hold on for a second hey um i got my mate in here she's cleaning and talking about employees uh so anyway um so we see this fire burning and uh we're looking to look and look and go okay that looks really suspicious man well it turns out it was 12 taliban um and what they were doing they were one um terrain feature away from the camp so what they were doing is staging there what they're going to do it get all spun up and then come around and hit the camp that night from that position so that was their their mss basically support site and uh um and so anyways um so we we call we call for close air support and there's happens to be i think it was an f-15 on station he had he had a couple of j dams with him and uh he was quite a ways out you could even hear the aircraft so we said hey you that's us um you know we we think we identified taliban location we gave him a location he's looking using his his optics and like i said he was so far out you couldn't even hear the guy you had no idea he was on station but he could actually see he's actually counting he goes yeah you got 12 guys armed ak-47s weapon systems blah blah blah and he's very in detail describing these guys like holy [ __ ] so we're like all right well send them to holla man and so the guy releases a thousand pound j damn and uh the time of flight was 45 seconds and when he released it he said yeah it's in round we actually laid the target for him and uh and you never heard the aircraft you never even heard the j damn until it went off and when it went off i saw was pieces and parts flying through the air arms and legs ak-47 we we kept it all all on infrared video and uh we kind of watched it the next day and reveled over it but so so we did that and so we're like okay a mission accomplished we don't need to go all the way to the village we go back and then uh the next day these guys got the ass i guess decided it was time for some payback so they come rolling around there again some more of them and there happened to be an op uh lpop on the on the high ground and a bunch of privates up there with uh m240 249s and edges unleashed and killed another 12. killed another 12 on broad daylight coming around there so we smoked quite a few guys in the couple days we were there and uh we ended up you know getting everybody out every last man out get all equipment out and was able to withdraw within the 72 hours anyways in spite of a shot down helicopter uh in the compound so um but it was really you know looking back at that it's like man these guys were living hardcore you know little pancho hooches for a year sleeping in mud they had no wifi no tv they had nothing man they were living they were living in really rough field conditions for a year and they're fighting it out every day i'm like man that's you know that's a hardcore [ __ ] there but uh glad to get them out of there because man they were taking a beating and they were pretty much combat ineffective they couldn't leave the wire they're just sitting ducks you know and uh and getting pox shots at them so um but that was an interesting mission it was a lot of fun uh went pretty fast and uh but uh you know we got it done got everybody out there so unfortunately the other camp um we didn't deal with the other camp but the first camp they took some serious casualties up there i remember when that fire fight happened it was a big deal and this one these three fobs were the northernmost u.s mill camps in in afghanistan there was nothing else up there i mean they were way out there too i mean really tough terrain to get to um you know i said the helicopter is the only way to get in and out of there and they shot down the one helicopter into the hl they could have been worse man yeah i could just imagine had this thing you know disintegrated in the compound you know maybe you know kill a bunch of men or something you know and hit field dumps you know it could have been a disaster man but uh it all worked out um like i said i was really impressed with the pilot i didn't know they had guys like that it's like that guy's got a pair of balls like a bull man yeah you're gonna come in here and he's gonna rope him in at night and then he's gonna get he's gonna get a cockpit and start pushing buttons and pulling levers and you know praying to god this thing [ __ ] flies out of there you know and he did it man he actually did it so pretty cool you know dale that's actually you know you mentioned these fobs and uh that's something and for those of you don't know it's just a ford operating base it's you know a little camp out in the middle of nowhere generally but you know we've talked about how special ops is really you know everybody loves the sexy mission of the of special ops but these conventional forces were out there like at these remote places or on these lawn patrols mixing it up all the time and they really don't get the credit that they deserve that's true man it's that's true um i was up in the corn gall also and so you had a bunch of uh fops in that area same thing those guys were getting pounded every day man um corn gall was probably it was regardless most dangerous place on the planet at that time and it wasn't if you're gonna get in contact it was when and how bad um but if you go up in the corn gall you're gonna get smacked you know and there was there were guys up there every day you know slinging lead with each other with the bad guys you know um yeah so yeah they're you're right man they're out there they're doing it you know and uh they're living in some hardcore conditions you know and uh and uh it sucks but on one hand you know i mean i i kind of live for that man yeah right you know of course you do yeah dale as i recall i mean you retired from the army like just before 9 11 and i mean i i don't think there's any way that a dude like you was gonna miss the war on terror uh you did find a way of course obviously to deal your way into the action um i remember you once telling me that you actually went out on ops by yourself a few times with an image which i thought was pretty cool i mean what was this experience like i guess we're going to say oga what was that like by comparison to your military experience it was i want to say it was better because um one i was entrusted with a lot of men and a lot of money um and mission right so you know i mean i was literally down range and i i only can describe it like colonel kurtz up the river in apocalypse now you know there were there were times i was up the river at a camp with me maybe one or two other americans maybe and uh you know with anywhere from 50 to 500 you know afghan mercenaries and uh especially in the beginning of the war you know i had uh a lot of latitude just to get the job done you know i can remember walking into the camp to the base uh ops and talking to the chiefs they're going hey man i'm gonna take the guys out tonight um we're going down the road i'm gonna hit that target back tomorrow morning and he's like okay and he's out there he's painting and [ __ ] you know he's he's doing it he's like doing some weird jobs you know it's like yeah okay yeah just don't get nobody hurt you know let me know what happens tomorrow morning i can't watch that and i'd go do my thing you know and uh and there was no you know there was no oversight um people just trusted me you know and uh they knew that uh you know i was able to do the right thing to fight the war on terror and beat the bad guys or whatever it took and uh which was really cool man to have that kind of uh given that kind of responsibility and and had that kind of trust to go do that and there were times you're right as the war went on um i worked with some of the same guys a lot and uh you know they trusted me i took care of them you know i i i mean i treated they were my soldiers but i treated them with respect with dignity you know i cared about them in their lives as well as their families and so you know i did what i thought a leader is supposed to do you know unfortunately you know this is gonna i'm gonna say it but uh a lot of guys don't get it particularly you know in the navy um you know they're working with the indige and i say the navy i'm talking about particularly the seals you know they don't have that background of working with indigenous people and green berets as you know you know jack uh both you guys you know that was our mission man is the is the win hearts of mines train the indigenous to basically stand up our own armies um and to go fight fight war and uh and that required that we took care of our guys and we treat them with dignity with respect we didn't treat them like dogs we didn't talk [ __ ] to them we didn't abuse them um because that will come back and haunt you that will that will end you somewhere on the battlefield by your own men if you do that wrong and so these other guys didn't get that and uh i got countless stories about that but anyways um that was my mission was you know always do the right thing by my soldiers and so i look i had the paper you know i had the checkbook and you know if the guy did a really good job it's like you know here you go here's a bonus to take the day off take two days off in fact you know um you know i took care of my guys that way because i knew that would you know the return would be huge on that down the road when i needed it and i was right so i had a platoon of guys that 42 in fact that uh you know these guys i would literally go out on operations by myself with them now i know i'm breaking you know breaking protocol and all kinds of rules two-man rule you know as american you gotta go out with another american but i got to the point with these guys that i trusted them so much we'd been out downrange so many many times that uh and i mean i remember them telling me you know i remember one time they they had a little formation and they're like mr dell um you know we will never let anything happen to you we will build a human wall around we will protect you with our lives and i and i believe that man because i saw it you know and so i could go out downrange for two three days at a time um nobody knew where the hell i was at you know i was everywhere in afghanistan now the freaking middle of nowhere you know yeah and uh we're going out and hitting targets and stuff you know and they could have easily they could have easily let the air out of me out there somewhere and bury me and said we don't know where he went you know and uh but that never happened and uh you know maybe i got lucky i don't know but i don't think so um i became very good friends with a lot of these guys and particularly one of them he's uh he was one of the commanders young young guy but um definitely a go-getter man the whole platoon was this particular platoon was very uh was very different from your typical afghan they were more western oriented um their mindset their personalities you know you could tell they love the west they love the american way and so they were different in that regard but the commander had been around for a while although he was young um his you know his family had fought the mujahideen he had lost you know family members and this guy was on the hit list you know taliban wanted this guy because of who he was and what he was in charge of and i was always afraid that you know when we pull out as americans this guy is going to get smoked he's going to kill him man you know him and his family and so one day i just never showed back up i had been going to the same camp for about almost 18 months and then i got reassigned because it was a problem at another camp um and it had to do with you know the american afghan interaction you know poor leadership blah blah blah and i kind of got sent out there to try to you know fix this this situation um so i never got to go back and see you know the commander and never saw him after that and then long after i got out i always wondered what happened to him you know i'm like man i'm afraid that uh you know he's gonna get killed one day and so lo and behold i get a message on facebook so i was always operating under you know a fake name fake everything you know nobody knew my real name and this guy had found me on facebook and he's messaging me and he's like hey man he goes me and my family are now in the united states you know he had he had five five boys and a daughter i think and uh and his wife they all made it to the states made it to virginia got a job you know people took care of them you know but they got him a special visa and got him out of there because they recognized that this guy's gonna get he's gonna get killed man no doubt he's gonna get killed when america's left and you know look look what happened man i mean let's look what happened last august right here we go how many people got killed you know yeah how many people are still getting killed you know i got i guarantee you he would have been one of those guys in fact some of my guys were killed um some of my guys they they basically um i think it was a total of 13. they did it was the last stand for them and they literally fought to the last bullet and they got killed um you know trying to keep the keep the taliban waves back so i know it's i know it would happen and it was going to happen to him he he beat the odds and got out of there he lived in the united states i actually just saw him about two years ago which was really cool but um but yeah this you know i would go out with these guys you know on a regular basis by myself you know and i trust them and uh it is what it is you know we got the job done and um i kind of had a different perspective you know um you know i remember the guy that shot down a turbine 3-3 okay um he was a young guy in fact and we got intel one day that he had uh arrived at one of the local villages and we we knew he was there and i'm like oh great let's go get this guy but my unit the afghans had been um basically they've been stood down right because of this this issue i mentioned earlier with the seals and there was a rift is what happened and it wasn't the afghan's fault that was what i found out later on so anyways but nonetheless they were told to stand down for six months retrain this blah blah blah now we got this guy from you know shot down turbine three three right down like two kilometers away and i'm like man let me take the boys let's go get this this guy this guy wasn't on the top of hvt list if he was right up there everybody wanted this guy and uh i remember i was told no because the guys aren't uh they're not operational and i go the hell they're not operational i'm running these guys i'm telling you they're operational this is easy we roll on the road we get the guy we come back right and they they just uh they just said no kept saying no and i'm like look you hired me as a contractor all right i got all these skills i said then i'll go you pay me a lot of money let me just go if i don't come back i don't come back you know but as he sent me man you know i'm always mission oriented these guys were risk-averse and it got that way you know as you know later on in the war you know everybody became risk averse nobody was interested in winning the war it just became uh you know it became check the block check the block right so i remember some of the camps i'm at we've got literally we've got these these case officers the logistics officers you know from paris embassy from europe and we call them combat tourists as you know right they're there checking the block you know i was in combat when they never left the damn wire and they even have a damn firearm on them you know um it just turned into a total [ __ ] um that war should have been over a long time ago but it just turned into a self-licking ice cream for a lot of people you know and uh sadly it is what it is but that's why i left in 2011 i just had enough and i thought jesus christ you know i'm going to get killed for what for nothing and i was right i was right look what happened man look what happened all these men are dead women are dead for nothing nothing happened you know nothing we killed ubl a long time ago why we were still there then you know [ __ ] dale uh well you said you left in 2011 from uh as far as contracting for our government um you kind of thought you were gonna you i mean you did go into uh television a little bit you started making some inroads on hollywood you thought kind of like your soldiering days were behind you from some of the things you've said um but then uh well in the sequence of events i mean what what was it the hong kong gig that came first so yeah so what happened was i literally got discovered by discovery channel right it was kind of weird and uh and so they you know they said you know we'd like for you to try out there's a tv show called one man army and i thought what could that be kind of cool do that be kind of like closing the chapter to my military paramilitary career you know and i thought it'd be kind of a cool way to go out do a little tv show and so i did and i got selected and uh and so i did i guess i did pretty well on that show and then i got a call about six months later from nbc said hey we like what we saw on discovery would you be interested in trying out for this tv show which was stars and stripes um as i understand it were about 10 000 applicants um that tried out for that show um i was one of eight along with chris kyle and a couple of other guys on the show to actually get selected it was pretty long process it was a lot of interviews i'd actually fly out to universal studios and do an on-site interview in front of the cameras you know again i did pretty well um and so i got selected and there i was now i'm doing i'm doing the hollywood thing and then that turned into um other people started noticing me wanted to meet with me um in fact i went out with uh so i became really good friends with terry crews still am to this day and uh eva torres the wwe wrestler she invited me to come out with uh to an event so i went out there while i was out there i got approached by some people that knew of me um actually one was a former student of mine and said we'd like to talk to you and so okay we do and it's a production company they're they're pretty uh right wing out of dallas and i said we need a poster boy we want to make a a uh conservative production company we want to invite veterans to come out and participate in hollywood events things like that we want to be more we want to do more right-leaning stuff than less leading stuff and we need iu the poster boy so i was all in and uh started networking going to a lot of producers you know i just started getting around in hollywood is what was happening and they were trying to pitch some tv shows for me i ended up on a few shows um you know so this whole thing was starting to get some gross legs and a couple years out into it there's some other weird stuff that happened i i'm not yeah i probably shouldn't share it today but uh there there's some other really weird stuff started happening right little did i know that um not only am i a poster boy but i'm actually a prop for a bigger uh for government agency let's put it that way so there's a very huge chinese and russian presence in hollywood they own everything so i'll let you put it all together next thing i know i'm like why are you guys giving me all this cash and i'm not signing for anything you know and and on a regular basis and what am i doing here again you know just do your thing you know be be the hollywood guy you know you're networking okay and i didn't ask you any questions um but it got really really really weird after a while and then um then i realized holy [ __ ] man um i'm in another spy versus spy [ __ ] movie and don't even know it yet and so um so anyways after a couple years um i was asked to move to hollywood to live out there i was told i could be the next danny trejo i could be on all kinds of tv shows and i had to do a little thinking man i was like man is this who i really am is this me you know because i don't like these people man for the most part you know they're they're a different culture different mindset um you know i'm used to actually being an action guy and not pretending to be an action guy you know and so so that kind of ended up i ended up moving to hong kong um and i was working over there running a security detail for a multi-billionaire investment banker which is okay it was kind of cool i was living downtown one chai hong kong dale um dale can can i interrupt for one second for to a sponsor uh quick live read yeah and we'll jump we'll jump right back into your story i'm sorry yeah yeah hey yeah we want to uh thank our sponsors tonight sap gear we've told you guys about them before uh they have a lot of really cool stuff on their website uh sapgear.com but uh sap gear partnered with ed calderon to produce his original merchant actually i'm wearing one of his uh one of their shirts right now very cool stuff uh ed is also known as ed manifesto online ed's manifesto at ed's manifesto online he worked in the fields of counter narcotics organized crime investigations public safety in the northern border of the region of mexico um he's uh he's doing a lot of stuff in north america now right now doing security consulting conducting seminars private training and uh anti-abduction escape 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several companies i've sold them to g4s whacking hud i sold this other company 2011 to another company i was running this company out of my office at home for about two years making it off of 23 000 a month just sitting in my office um and anyways that went went south and it didn't go south because i was sitting in my office it went south because the investors were doing their job but nonetheless i decided to pull pitch and get out of there ended up in hong kong and then that's actually where i met my wife she's indonesia and uh she went back to indonesia i went back to the states and then eventually i went to indonesia you know chasing drawers that's that's what we do right and so so i went over to meet her and and started looking around and started realizing there's business opportunities so i'm actually talking to you right now from bali that's why my office is in bali indonesia but we decided you know hey there's some business opportunities here relative to security canines blah blah blah and my wife has started our business here and we've been in bali i've lived in indonesia now almost seven years i think and i've been in bali over four and a half years um and we're running uh explosive detector dogs patrol attack dogs narcotic detector dogs for like all the marriott properties and the local venues here so it's pretty cool gig um you know i get to i get to play with my dogs and make money off of them too you know and uh you know we did really well here right up until covet you know took our legs out from under us like everybody else um it wasn't really code but it was all the freaking crooks that capitalized on it but nonetheless um we're back and we're back in business and uh just signed another contract signed two contracts so um you know we're back in business here so that's why that's how i ended up in bali um i live here i have a home in florida as well i also actually have another home in in the philippines um but so i kind of like live out of a suitcase so with all that said you would think that okay after the holly you know the hong kong field that was kind of a cool gig um kind of um everybody who thinks that being a bodyguard is like really um you know really cool i gotta tell you man it sucks all right on one hand you know living in hong kong that was the cool part living in hong kong okay one of my favorite cities until the chinese took back over um but it's a really cool place but uh being the work of a body card is it sucks and i keep saying that but it actually sucks it's a good job for it's a good job for younger guys um you know but it you know for guys like me it's like insulting in a lot of ways you know i so the pay was okay actually the the pay has been really well i got paid very well um and i'll share the story with you about la here in a minute but going back to the hong kong deal so here i am invest you know for providing security for this really wealthy chinese guy in his mid 50s late 50s married to a 32 year old mexican model um big old boobs on her you know good looking um beautiful on the inside but the ugliest person you'll ever meet on the inside oh my god man she was horrible man um and uh you know we all know what that was about but anyways so it was a difficult job in that you know dealing with the client on they're just rich people suck okay and uh you know there's a reason they're rich and it's because they're really good at walking over a lot of other people man to get there and and that's a fact i've got a lot of rich business partners rich friends rich clients i got one guy he's a billionaire owes me 450 000 um yeah he's a billionaire and he screwed me out of 450 thousand dollars man so um i left a bad taste in my mouth these people and and the lesson learned out of that is be your own boss be your own success story don't count on none of these other people man because everybody will take from you so i said earlier before the interview you know how neat mean and vile and nasty people really are i got some i got another story on that one too so anyways um i did this for a while um you know like i said it's a it's kind of a thankless job you get paid but you're treated like [ __ ] you know um here i am a guy with a phd you know and i got i got another friend of mine ready for this he's a seal commander lawyer for blackwater and he's a bodyguard with me and we got this 32 year old client right you know with one [ __ ] live brain cell talking down to us like we're little freaky kids like what the hell you know so that's what i mean by that but uh so i ended up doing all that and then other things started happening um i had an opportunity to go to yemen um we've you know we've kind of talked about that in another episode but basically while i was here um so the same company i was working for in hong kong they're friends of mine i worked for them in south africa mexico you know i did a lot of stuff for them contracting as a consultant security consultant bodyguard etc so so here's the story out so i'll go ahead and cut right into this one this was kind of cool um so one night i'm in south africa sitting around the pool with the guy um the owner his name will call him a g and uh aj's a pretty freaking hardcore no [ __ ] kind of guy man um he either likes you or you don't if you don't like it he'll let you know about it too um and so luckily i was you know i'm was good friend with the guy and got along just fine with him so we're in south africa sitting around the pool one night and he's like dale he goes um he goes how could you do all these other things you know why don't you just focus on security and you know you could be really good at that make a lot of money you know why do you do this and do that because at the time i was like teaching as a professor for henry putnam university i'm a journeyman i just travel around doing weird jobs right like going to singapore to training dogs um and i told them i said well you know i said you know i said i said i got a lot of ex-wives out there need to get paid you know look at parasites man you know i've gotta pay them off all the time you know i got a lot of kids and [ __ ] you know and so i said i go where the work is i make my money i said i'm pretty happy because i get to travel i get to do different things i wear a different hat every day and so it's not so bad and he looks at me goes man he goes what if i gave you fifty thousand dollars cash he goes would that help you and i thought about yeah of course it would help me but i'm not taking it and uh he wanted to give me fifty thousand dollars cash because he thought it would relieve some pressure right and so that i could focus on just you know security for example and i said no i said you know what i can't accept your money i said i don't take money i don't earn and so we kind of got an argument over the swimming pool around the swimming pool and he's like well he goes tell me dale he goes you've done so much in your life what's next what are you going to do next and i look down and i go i want to be like you he looks at me like i go what and yeah i want to be like you i want to be some rich guy sitting around a [ __ ] pool asking people what they're going to do with their lives you know and give them 50 000 so you know so we ended up part ways that night with our rooms and the next morning his partner calls me to the office and uh he goes hey a.g left this morning went back home but you know he just put um fifty thousand dollars in your bank account and i was like what the hell man and so he goes you can't give it back we're not taking it back we don't want it back he goes listen you know those other people have helped us other veterans have come up and helped us when we needed it and he goes we wanted to do the same thing you know and uh i said well i appreciate all that but i said i don't work for free so i said counter count this is paying you've paid this forward so next time you have a project i said you call me i'll drop what i'm doing i'll come here wherever and go to work for you right you get your money back so that wasn't even enough man then he put me on a 7 000 a month retainer for next six months like damn so i'm making i'm doing all right and uh and so then i leave and i end up going back to indonesia i start my security business here um my wife and i are not married yet but we start this enterprise and then one day i'm flying back to the us and i get a text message from a.g goes hey man i need to talk to you about some security related stuff this was over a year later a year and a half later and i thought man you know i've got my own security business conflict of interest i really wasn't interested at this point i was excited about starting my own company here so i get to the stage you text me game knows i really really need to talk to but i can't talk to you over the phone and i'm like i don't know you know ajf you know i'm hammering aha and he goes okay listen you're gonna buy your plane ticket to san diego he goes when you get here i'm gonna pay you six thousand dollars for three hours of your time i gotta you gotta listen to me oh [ __ ] okay it must be important so i fly out there he's leaning up against this bad ass portion at the airport i show up he hands me an envelope with six thousand dollars cash and he's get in [ __ ] we take off right and uh we end up in his neighborhood which was pretty amazing uh i mean he literally he lived next door to bill gates and a whole bunch of other people holy [ __ ] this guy's rolling in dough and he was um so that evening we had a you know we sat down we had dinner and he and his partner told me what the plan was right and so basically it was they had a contract with the emiratis and uh basically to take out their hvts right they needed a special force capability they didn't have it um a.g promised them that we could deliver this and so you know i'm okay yeah roger that sounds like a good idea pretty cool but you know i'm going back to indonesia in three days and uh i really didn't want to go and so he already threw forty thousand dollars cash from the table in front of me he goes that's yours all right and i'm like look dude i go i said anyway i said you do the first one i said i'll come in for the fall on evolution i just got to go home you know see my my girl and kind of you know i wasn't ready for this [ __ ] you know and he goes no if i don't if i can't have you for the first one i don't need you for the other ones and so i'm like damn okay i said all right okay okay i'm in right so i fly home i said i gotta go to indonesia first though so i literally the next morning i fly to indonesia i see my wife my girl um i lied to her i said look i'm gonna go to the middle east i'm doing some consulting you know security consulting work you know make a little bit of money be right back no danger problem be right back oh okay so they tell me don't bring any equipment you don't need it it's already provided for you right oh okay so i fly i fly from jakarta all the way to uh new york laguardia um i check into a hotel as i'm supposed to i'm waiting around downstairs in the lounge area restaurant area having a beer and i noticed there's a bunch of french dudes walking around they all look pretty fit you know but they're french and so we get a little suspicious and then i had to be up in a hotel room around 10 30 that night we all had to meet there okay we all were giving instructions at this time meet this room so i show up in there and there's all these french dudes are standing there there's 11 of us total um you know aeg his partner seal um me and then uh the other uh the french they're french foreign legionnaires is what they are and so we're all standard looking at each other like who's who you know like the movie ronin and then uh he's like all right guys here's the play here's the mission here's the plan he goes this is what we're gonna go do he goes if you're not interested he goes you can keep the 20 thousand dollars i gave you and just leave right now and no questions asked go back home like [ __ ] man so everybody got 20 20 grand except for me i had 40 grand i had to tell nobody well there was a reason i got 40 grand and i was about to find that out in a second so nobody quit he goes okay good because welcome aboard he goes oh and then he points at me he tells everybody in the room he goes that guy's in charge of everything he's the boss whatever he says goes you do what he tells you to do everything i like what me so you know i don't even know what the hell is going on here right now and i'm in charge right all of a sudden of everything and literally everything and uh all right so the next day um we have to meet downstairs uh in the evening we get on a bus a bunch of vans and we go to teterboro uh it's a private air ful airport up there and uh it tells us to make sure we're wearing all our tactical gear our uniforms that's kind of weird it's a business [ __ ] airport everybody's wearing suits and we show up wearing camouflage right and beards and [ __ ] right but he had a reason for it okay he had a reason for it and the reason was he knew people were watching us people very high up were watching us okay and so he wasn't he didn't want to hide anything he didn't want to give the illusion that we're not up to something he wanted to make it really clear that yeah we're doing this and i'm not going to hide it so we show up the airport that night a g5 shows up we load it with food and water our gear no weapons and we take off and we fly i think we did our first fuel stop uh in hungary and uh and then we continued on and so the pilots and the flight attendants they had no idea where we're going right they got their initial grid coordinates and then in flight from hungary we gave them a change of change the flight plan on said okay this is your coordinates this is where you put an airplane down which was in the desert on a dirt air strip completely remote not even on a map like they're right here is an airstrip on this great car i just put your airplane there and i what it said just do it and he searched me back they even questioned it man so they're like whatever you guys want man you know uh we're doing it so we ended up landing in the middle of an airfield it was if you want to call it's just a strip just a dirty strip there's nothing there nothing um except one c-130 sitting there uh with the ramp-down engines running that was the only thing that was sitting there so we landed g5 we unload our [ __ ] we walk over to the to the ramp there's a colonel waiting for us as an intel officer um in the emirati military yeah emirati right so he's checking the block as we're getting on you know we're loading all our [ __ ] in the back and then uh we take off and we fly about another four hours to uh djibouti we land get off and there's a ch 47 and 286 helicopters sitting there engines running waiting for us so we translate into those things take off fly about another hour we end up in a gaming uh at one of their fobs out there and so we you know it's at this point it's like two o'clock in the morning uh 2 a.m and i asked the intel officer i go hey uh where's all our gear all the weapons all the [ __ ] that's supposed to be waiting for us because oh it's on the way and so they had set up a couple of gp mediums uh in a containment area within the fob nobody knew he was there they intentionally tried to make sure we were hidden you know and so he's they'll be here shortly right so this shows up all these pickup trucks full of garbage literally [ __ ] garbage you know like pieces and parts of weapon systems um just [ __ ] man i mean like what the hell and so they're unloading all this crap you know and uh we got dshk with no [ __ ] no tripods we've got you know we've got no magazines for the ak-47s we got no links for the pkms you know and oh by the way we're supposed to be getting all us built equipment brand new and they're giving us this 30 year old chaicom rusty [ __ ] right and uh and i'm i'm i'm inventorying it and i'm looking at it and i realize ain't nothing we can do with this nothing functional nothing's operational so i walk up to him to the corner i go hey sir i said this ain't gonna work i said we're missing everything right i miss all pieces apart and he he hated the fact that we were coming in to fight his war he hated the fact that they didn't have the capability right he he despised us and i said sir i said well this is not you know that's not gonna get it and he looks at me with his hands on his hips because so what you're telling me is you can't do the mission i'm like no i didn't say i couldn't do the mission i killed the guys with a damn spoon but i can do the mission i would really like to have some weapons though you know where i can shoot from a distance you know and uh and so i gave him a little you know peace in my mind i confronted him and and he's like okay okay i said by the way where's all my american weapons at that we're supposed to get right i know what he did he took that money putting his freaking sockets right right yeah that's what he did right little son of [ __ ] um and he went down to the local bazaar and bought us all this crap right and so anyways he kind of gave him the stinky guy he got the message he came and i gave him the shortage list he came back with uh the pieces and parts we missed and basically we were just cobbling weapons together and you know improvising everything there were no uniforms um nothing man so i'm literally got you know a pair of 511s on some desert boots um i had on a a tank top for the gym i actually had weight training gloves those are my tactical gloves you know i was we're making it up as we go man we're literally like making our own freaking you know vests and stuff for ammo and stuff you know knitting and [ __ ] you know i was like are you kidding me so we literally improvised everything we had to go do these operations um because we got no tactical gear they just they didn't give it to us and i think it was because he wanted us to fail that's what it was right but we were we weren't having that so um the next question was okay go ahead how old were you at this point dale so this was uh 2015 2016. um so you basically uh what six years ago i'm 59 so i was about 53. yeah yes it's nice it's nice to know though that a tiger doesn't change its stripes you know i i find that comforting about you no man actually i was leading the charge man i was in good shape but anybody there or better um you know and there was a reason i was in charge because i learned that lesson later on too it was like okay now i know why i'm here but uh so anyways uh we got the target list um it was long over 40 people on the list spread across three countries um so we're going to be doing some globe trotting i'm to go take these guys out but they were all hvts uh it was not a capture mission it was a kill mission that was it uh these guys had to go they're all bad guys they're all terrorists um they're all associated or affiliated with al qaeda uh particularly al-qaeda arabic peninsula a-cap on the muslim brotherhood isis houthis um there are a lot of bad guys here which three countries i i can't say the other few countries just say they were on the african continent so so does so because you're saying like um aq air peninsula did the uae which is a fairly i mean in terms of arabic countries it's like a fairly liberal country um did i don't mean liberal politically i just mean liberal in terms of like religion what not do do they have a different hvt set than say the united states does and that their concerns even though these people are iq or isis but their concerns are different because these h high value targets the hvts are operating directly against like the emirates and in places like that yeah so exactly they got their own their their target list may be different from our target list some of them not all of them um and they had their own agenda in fact the reason we got hired by the mod because he's the guy that hired us um was actually a palestinian and uh very prominent guy not even emirati um but because of a friend of a friend of a friend he got put into mod position um and so there's a there's actually a very interesting story about this guy his name is muhammad um you can look him up on the internet uh very interesting guy very cool guy actually um but very interesting and uh he was not what you would expect um but um so anyways uh you know the target list was long spread over three countries um we needed to get this one they wanted us one guy in particular right off the bat he's number target number one and we're like okay um what's the deal with this guy and you know and they explained to us you know why he's a threat um okay he's a he's a shady character he's he was actually from india he was not arabic he was india but he was muslim and he was a pedophile um and he's almost sexual he had all kinds of weird [ __ ] going on too but he was very well trained and trade craft and street craft so he never put his head down in the same place twice he had his own security detail um he was being financed as i understand it by the muslim brotherhood and others he was using al qaeda as an action arm um just a lot of weird things going on right so supposedly this guy won the nobel prize blah blah blah it's all [ __ ] okay because one of the things i made sure of that i insisted on was any targets that we take out we gotta i gotta be convinced this guy's a bad guy and it's just not some little personal agenda right right this guy got to be a legit target so we did our due diligence you know and we investigated closely it's like okay this guy's he's the real deal um so we greenlighted him um but it was interesting was as we're going through this target list we're developing the first target it took us a couple weeks which actually was pretty fast considering we had no uh human uh human sources we had nothing to work with i mean we're gleaning information off the internet you know we're bribing emiratis to give them some intel they were trying to what's the word i'm looking for they're trying to remain hands off they want to have plausible time right yeah right and so we're like hey dude we'll never get this done if you're not helping us you know so they ended up getting us some sources um you know we ended up paying a bunch of money you know makes a bunch of promises and stuff like that but uh in this process we realized on this list was a guy who was the uh the mastermind behind the uss cole bombing and he was running into madrasa in eight and he was running a pipeline for isis fighters this guy was a [ __ ] still and he was there and we're like oh oh we this is this is number one we're going after that guy first you know and he's right down the road and uh he's really got no security his house is across the corner caddy corner to his madrassa where he's running this pipeline you know for isis fighters and stuff and so we really wanted that guy okay he's the uss cole bomb ma you know mastermind we were told no to no no you work for us this is number one right here this guy here you guys can have him later on like [ __ ] man uh we really wanted this guy he would have been an easy target too but we didn't get we didn't get the shot at him that we wanted so um so long story short my job was um besides you know planning execution um i realized really quickly that the guys that were with me didn't know the hell they were doing so they had no idea about explosives they didn't know how to use explosives [Music] in fact i had to show actually i had to show one of the guys was a seal literally how to put an ak-47 in action he had no idea how to load it and charge it like [ __ ] dude you know and so this was a seal too but he was a good guy i'm not going to take nothing from him he just didn't know what he was doing but he turned out to be actually one of the better guys out of the bunch because his head was in the right place um the other the other seal was a total turd though complete turn um so now i'm training these guys on how to basically set head space and timing on a 50 caliber machine gun run pkm machine guns you know all the weapon systems we have and then the mission came down like we might have to hit this guy on the way to the airport there's only one flight a day leaving ayden and uh and we had intel that this guy might try to get on that airplane one of these particular days and so what we want to do is ambush them at the airport now what was interesting is the emirati military occupied the airport but all the access roads all the gates going into the airport were manned by al qaeda [Music] right so they controlled the gates and uh and so we would literally have to drive to the gates wave at mr al qaeda you know and then go inside into the compound but they had one flight a day and we thought this guy's going to get on one of these flights so we just started planning okay we got to hit him we picked out the checkpoint location we're going to we're going to smack them um they thought well what if he doesn't come this way what if he goes that away and then we thought okay let's ambush him in the vehicle he's running a small motorcade didn't skin trucks um then the question was to who can ride a motorcycle i'd be damned i'm the only guy to ride a motorcycle i said are you kidding me i'm the only guy who can ride a goddamn motorcycle so now i'm you know i'm doing it all man i'm like what why why are you guys even here i said i might as well just do everything you know i got to ride the motorcycle i got to build the ieds you know i got a.g on the back of the motorcycle he's going to hang my ied off the mirror of this truck while we're driving and then vaporize vehicle with the guy in it right so we got all these contingency plans and i'm starting to realize really quickly that i'm the only guy who knows what the hell is going on i'm the only guy who's got any tactical experience to execute this thing you know and uh going back to discovery channel i guess i am a one-man army so um so anyways um so we had all these contingency plans man and there's you know we wouldn't do all kinds of stuff man it kept changing every day because the guy never slept in the same place twice so we had to keep adjusting the mission profile right okay now we're instead of doing motorcycles doing helicopter okay we're not doing helicopters now we're walking you know and so so finally we uh we finally got some good intel one night and we had about an hour and a half to spin up because the guy was staying downtown in the office um and he wasn't going to come out we had eyes on human watching the guy reporting back to us we had a drone helicopter up uh you know video on the office we know he was in there he went in there with his bodyguards um and as a uh his assistant and he had come out so we we were staged already ready to go and uh that's when we went in and it was only it was actually five of us that went in out of the team and out of the five of us one of them was an arab um he's a he's one of their majors in the military and he was just the driver it's like look you just drive you don't touch guns don't play with the [ __ ] radio just drive that's all you got to do right and so and and me and and a.g the two seals were in the back of this uh up armored uh land cruiser and the job was to literally pull up to the office i was gonna get out put an ied on the building and bring it down on top of this guy's head and uh so that was the basic plan and so we roll in it's i think it's about 9 30 at night very dark very dark you had people on the streets drinking chai you know very narrow roads very congested and so we go rolling in at about three miles an hour that was top speed you know i literally got as a car comes to a stop i've got al-qaeda looking in the window trying to see who's inside the window and i'm putting a muzzle in his face getting ready to let the air out of them and uh so finally we get in front of the office and like go doors come open the first guy shot is the driver the only guy without a weapon he gets shot in the [ __ ] leg um and then the rest of us bail out i grabbed my charge and i run across the street run in front of the office door and i tried to open the door first i got my i was going to try to open the door throw a couple of hand grenades in there and then just go in and shoot everybody but they had locked the door from the inside because the bodyguards usually they sat out on front but at night they would roll inside they would lock the doors up and they would sit right behind the the doors and these big steel doors so uh i couldn't get the door open so i knew they were in there they locked it and so i thought okay the only other choice i have now is the places uh ied that i built um in front of the uh the door so the charge was i i filled an ammo can with c4 and i filled it up with armor plating from an mrap so i basically made it to mother of all claymores and uh you know added some extra honor for the p factor so i had a little nuclear weapons what i had it was all directional uh and so um i've placed the charge there's a raging gun fight going on right now um and i'm by myself so for whatever reason i don't know why but a.g ran up the [ __ ] road like with his hair on fire and he's shooting it out with people up the street and he's actually supposed to be with me at the door pull the security floor because i got my hands full and same thing with the other guy the other seal he doesn't follow me to the door either he stays at the vehicle um his excuse was his weapon kept malfunctioning but he had a spare right next to him he didn't grab that one so he didn't follow me over so i'm basically out there by myself and the wind flapping you know and anyways i placed the charge um i could not run back to my ex built vehicle because you know the engagement was just too close down i would have run right into an ambush and so i decided okay i'm running up the street to another vehicle waiting down the road and uh but the vehicle that we infilled in was uh an up armored uh land cruiser a 300 000 car and so i had already placed an ied in the back of it an incendiary device i built it put it back there and uh what i was going to do is run it back to my original vehicle as a stop pull the firing system and we're going to destroy that land cruiser i don't know why they wanted to destroy it but they didn't want to bring it out to target our instructions were leave us there and destroy it so that's what they want that's what they get that's what they're paying for so anyways i could not get to the charge so the other seal um he knew that contingency plan was if i don't make it back he was to run up and fire the system and he did and it's all on video and uh the first charge goes off and i just wrecks the building um apparently vaporizes the bodyguards behind the doors and then and then he pulls the other system and then it goes off and it literally blew that that car up and literally burned it to the ground i mean there was nothing left of it i was i was actually in awe that it actually worked as well as it did because it was literally improvised explosion i never built one like this before didn't know i just kind of made it up as i went it was kind of cool i used uh right for this i use net i use nest cafe coffee grounds in a jar uh half a half a liter or half a bottle of gasoline and a quarter block of c4 cobble this freaking thing together put it over the gas tank and i'll be damned it works man you can burn that thing to a crispy critter um but uh so we get out we get out of the mission and then uh and so all of us were given ranks so the question is okay you know for everybody out there listening oh my god being a mercenary is illegal i've heard all the [ __ ] all right shut up all right let me just explain what happened here all right first of all it is not illegal to work as a mercenary okay you go to state department website you as an american citizen can work for foreign countries okay a foreign government as long as that government their policies are in line with u.s policy okay the emiratis are friends of americans okay we're fighting the same global war on terrorism boom all right there it is two you can join their military and guess what they assigned us ranks they gave us all right guess who the lead the ranking is current the rank is guy there was a.g made him a full board colonel he's in charge of the entire airport operating base he's in charge of the arabs and he's just you guys when he's jewish yeah guy is jewish he's a jewish colonel in their military giving them orders so we get back to the to the compound and uh you know [ __ ] you know plugging holes and stuff and and aj comes back a few minutes later he's got a thumb drive he went to the drone pilot he goes i'm the colonel give me a copy of that that drone village and he got it and the reason he got is for insurance so it could never be said that we're out there's a bunch of renegades on our own right you know doing this kind of [ __ ] got proof right here it came out of your helicopter you know here's the here's the footage right so it was a smart move man um you know like i said it was insurance um so then what happens is basically okay we're not sure if we got the target or not because the next day on the news the local news um his assistant was all wrapped up you know and he's on the news going to boom he didn't get us you know but he's all [ __ ] up and the other guys are vaporized and so we don't know what happened to the principal and uh we were told he did get away and he went back to saudi arabia which i kind of doubt that because the saudis wanted him dead too so why would you come back to saudi arabia right he basically dropped off the map we're not sure what happened maybe he went into hiding you know maybe i scared the [ __ ] out you know he decided he wants some more part of it i don't know but uh so we we go back to uh um we end up in abu dhabi we meet with the the client and uh basically we're doing an aar after action report this is what happened blah blah blah and uh he was happy and so the contract if i remember right the contract was worth 880 million dollars okay the first mission was 800 000 okay the first mission was a vetting mission if we were successful we would get the rest of the contract and that's why it was important that i was on the first mission right because it had we had had to go right i tell you right now had i not been there they would have [ __ ] up the charges they didn't know how to build them they wouldn't have been effective at all they wouldn't have known how to use half the weapon system you know they would have had to go to the mris goes hey can you show us how to you know book this gun you know that's what i'm paying you for so none of that was going to work so that's why i realized okay there's my value right that's why they had to have me right so you know we got you know awarded the rest of the contract and then uh and then we had you know the fall one following missions after that so um anyways that happened and then uh finally ended up i ended up walking out of the desert me and one of the seals had enough because the one seal that's in charge i'm not able to mention his name he's all [ __ ] up and uh a.g had to go do something and i said you know i ain't staying out here this this is [ __ ] there's a lot of leadership issues that uh there were you know there were very pronounced fans that really wrecked the whole project um poor leadership zero leadership and uh i give an example one day you know so i'm getting paid all this money as a special advisor and uh i noticed that uh one of the seals the bosses is laying in the back of a pickup truck sunbathing with no clothes on every day and he's telling the guys to fetch his coffee and do this and do that you know and uh these are all grown men right with families they're soldiers they're veterans and he's telling me to go fetch coffee and then i realize he's he's actually um he's hiding cases of red bull in his pooch fruit all kinds of fresh stuff he's had he's hoarding it for himself not even sharing it with the team right i found out about that one day because i had to go in to get something like what the [ __ ] so i walked up to the truck one day while he's back there and i go hey man i said you guys have paid me a lot of money to be your special advisor so i'm gonna go ahead and earn my money right now and give you some advice you know they're looking at me huh i got ready for this lead by example and they're like and i go yeah lead by example so you think this will lead my example i said this ain't leading [ __ ] i said all that red bull in your room that that's not leading my example i said these these guys here i said they could give two shits about your bottom line when we're out there in a fire fight in the street i said nobody cares about your bottom line your corporation all they care about is getting back home and they're going to remember who took care of them and who didn't i said and right now you making them fetch coffee while you're sunbathing and everybody and they're working their ass off ain't holding the water and he and you know what he disagreed with me he's alright i gotta disagree it is a business you freaking [ __ ] i said you know what we get out there i said when a [ __ ] hits the fan and they gotta make a decision either save me or save you uh bye bye you because you're not saving your ass i'm the guy taking care of them i'm the guy running interference from constantly you know and uh and that's my job i said but you're paying the paycheck man i said you need to do your part you know so there was stuff like that that was going on out there that just i said you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna be a part of this anymore um and i actually left ended up uh playing these trains in automobiles through dubai abu dhabi i think i went back to the us they finally went back to indonesia or indonesia then the u.s camera i was all over the day going place but uh you know i just decided that uh i'm done with that part of it dale how many oh of that list of 40 names like how many hvts down did you get uh during that contract just a couple um what's kind of funny is we have one guy that was an isis bomb maker very prominent guy and uh he was definitely gonna get it man but uh we had it all lined up um i built this freaking mega freaking ied for him special and uh and he was going out every day and after we were watching with the drone in the afternoon he would go out on the street and he had a couch on the street right and he would sit there and sell drugs cats right guys would come by and he was a drug dealer too on top of everything else and then on the end of his his compound he had a garage called the monster garage and he was building metal doors but actually he was building ieds in there he had all kinds of sealed ceiling tanks and stuff like that and so my job was gonna be to blow up this entire monster shop one night and then we're gonna go up to his compound and shoot him in his freaking face um just as we're getting ready to do this he went out to sell some drugs on the street you know a guy drives by and he's with the uh yemenis resistance and uh boom but kills him right there man does the job for us like [ __ ] you know that's probably a good thing because um it would have been really hard to get in and get back out of there they had that place locked down pretty good um between isis and al qaeda and the houthis um he was pretty secure and we were definitely gonna be you know we were definitely gonna be hanging out there trying to get to him but uh we made down a list a little bit and not very far and before i walked away i don't know what they did after that i actually know that one of the guys they ended up in uh serbia and one of the guys on the team got rolled up ended up in jail for almost two years on weapons charges they were you know kind of doing the same thing against we're doing gaming i didn't have any part of that i walked away but uh um he got out of jail because somebody kept murderers uh his attorney at the doorstep of the courtyard so he lost everything the entire case against him and uh he's actually pretty famous seal um i don't know i'm not gonna say his name but uh he's a pretty fake he's a pretty famous shield but uh he [ __ ] up and uh he got he got rolled up and he spent a couple years of serving in jail because of that so anyways um yeah going back to so you know round and round and round everything starts happening i ended up from there in los angeles um running a so i was protecting a multi-millionaire as a starlet in hollywood so what happened was i was out on the tv show swat right and uh so i i was invited to be on that show so i'm out there on the set i get a call from my friend um who's you know he's a pretty good guy man he's country western singer he's like hey dude he goes we got a problem he goes i got a friend she's in big trouble um some guy stole over a million dollars for the diamonds from her they want to kill her because she wants to go to the police the staff that hat she's very wealthy she's 31 years old um beautiful never been married no kids she's every man's dream dude i'm telling you right now right so and i don't even know this i don't know all this about her yet i just know she's in trouble and i'm the only guy he'll recommend and so apparently she already done the google search and all this [ __ ] he goes call her and work out the price so i called her up go hey you this is me what's going on what do you need okay here's my price and my price was two thousand dollars a day plus password cost i said you want me to protect you two grand plus pay for all my expenses see that bad and i like really and so i almost kind of said that because i really didn't want to do the job right i know bodyguard work sucks right so i figured if i'm gonna do it better be worth it right so i said two grand and then and then she's like okay no problem really i said well i said you know um i said i'm on a hollywood set so i didn't bring any suits or clothes for this either you know not really prepared for this she goes don't worry you don't need any clothes oh okay little did i know she actually met i didn't need any clothes i just needed to show her butt naked she was good with that right so she apparently she'd done all the google search watched all my movies 10 times over you know i didn't know any of this right okay all right and then she asked me what my so close size were she said i gave it to her i ended up flying to l.a and so i had somebody else with me i had a female with me that i had met young girl and uh i go hey by the way i got a friend with me you know i said you know can i bring her with me and she's like oh yeah of course you know bring it with you or really i said okay cool i can use for like counter surveillance surveillance type stuff right can't make this [ __ ] up so i show up and at the airport she's got a limousine waiting for us um we go to her uh where she lived very upscale um the apartments in this particular building she was living in uh the low end was fifteen thousand dollars a month the high end was seventy thousand dollars a month um it was all the rich and famous people living there right so we show up she's waiting for me all giddy and everything and then uh and so you know we get settled in i i got my own apartment she gives me apartment for fifteen thousand dollars a month fully stocked with everything not only that she bought all my clothes for me i didn't know that all my under armour everything's laid out for me you know slippers and hiking shoes and t-shirts i'm like damn man you know and uh and so i said okay so i told the gal i was with i said listen i'm gonna be really busy for a while i said so you know she was actually she was from not from the united states and i said look i said since you're here enjoy the vacation go hang out in hollywood just see the sights you know don't mind me i'm doing my thing and uh so she was good and so i end up you know telling the clients to listen all right i'm here to protect you i'm going to go over some security stuff protocols do's and don'ts patterns of life you know we'll even do some defensive tactics you know and uh so it goes pretty good right and little do i know she's like falling in love with me i didn't know that and uh and so it got kind of started getting really weird like we would go out for dinner every night and she would spend fifteen hundred dollars every night on dinner um she ordered everything on the menu times ten she's like whatever you want time said you know but i like what and then i'd like no i'm gonna go stand over here by the door and pull security because oh no you're not you're gonna sit right here next to me i said yes ma'am you're paying the bills all right so it turned into that and uh and then it turned into like her sitting on my lap he got really unprofessional after a while and i'm trying to keep my professional distance but she's making it really really really really hard you know and so then i meet all her friends that live in this building they're all billionaires um they're just they're just hardcore liberals right so every day she never worked she owned a company now and then we drive to the company you know and she check on things okay and then we go back to her to where she stayed but everybody would hang out on the bottom floor had the swimming pool the bar and it's the lounge area and that's where we hung out every day all day long for months and uh she would order tons of food and pizza and this and that and all those uh guests the residents would come down and we'd all be talking and no they would be talking i couldn't stand these [ __ ] right there you know it was always a trump bashing section right it was always a trump back succession i'm like get the hell out of here and then they're like you mean you were in the army you were a veteran yeah that's what they look like wow you know it's like i'm like a puppy like what that's what veterans look like could have never met one before right and then then they want to ask me some questions about the military and i'd start to answer them and then it just cut me off and then they start talking about there's only four things they could talk about wine uh hotels uh food and other women stress how they dress that was it that was the four topics that's all these people can talk about because that's all they know well dale if if any of your attractive billionaire female friends are interested in a veteran male consequence you feel free to pass them my digits i mean i'm here and i'm ready to work i'm ready to work well and he he lives in brooklyn and he went to columbia so he can like he can like fit into that that sort of liberal well i got a foot in both worlds man i can do it yeah well i'll tell you what man it was uh it was really frustrating because um they couldn't talk about anything else because they didn't know anything else i was literally like the first veteran that ever met i might as well been a puppy you know like wow that's what they look like you know and uh and i was like what the [ __ ] man so and uh like what the [ __ ] man so um you know and i and i would tell my client you know like look you know she would ask me a question from everybody and i said look i don't talk politics i'm not talking religion oh no no it's okay it's okay i remember they asked me this question one time about uh homosexuals in the military and i had an experience back in 82nd when i first went in 1982 with a gay guy that was literally everybody got drunk one night he went into this one dude's room and gave him a blow job while he was sleeping the guy wakes up loses his [ __ ] you know and and uh we ended up with a big battalion you know hand-to-hand combat session everybody was fighting because we were the recon guys and they were you know now we're the gay recon guys you know it just got really crazy right and so i'm starting to explain to her what the problem was you know with you know with homosexuals especially in a rank of infantry guys when something like this happens and uh and i told her how we were literally combat effective ineffective for over a month and people were getting article 15 all because of one guy he literally pulls this guy's underwear down while he's sleeping he's drunk and he wakes up and he's getting a [ __ ] from this guy um and so they were like oh the all the everybody said are going oh oh my god that's so uncomfortable i i gotta i gotta go i go yeah you gotta go because you wanna hear the damn truth you know it was always that kind of stuff you know these people just started making me sick and then i kept asking my client i go listen how much longer do you need me for because you know we was tracking down the jewelry she was there there were some gangs in out of chicago that were involved in this um there's it's going to be when i write this story it's pretty interesting whose characters were some of them were very famous like damn um one of them was a billionaire a british guy from london who's a billionaire he sat on a bunch of boards um he was actually banging this hooker this black chick a high-end car girl she she ended up working her way into this building passing the background checks um and ended up stealing all my clients jewelry on based on a on a lie which was tied to this billionaire basically i i go from being a bodyguard to the fixer now to the investigator you know so i'm now sitting you know i'm calling this guy up going hey i need you to meet me at starbucks tomorrow at 0-7 you know across town la he meets me and i'm waiting for the guy and i'm playing you know let jeff with them and i'm like hey listen my client's really really angry um we know that you know your girlfriend no no i'm a girl yeah you were banging her so it doesn't matter she's your girlfriend she used your name stole his jewelry and my client's getting mad because she can't get it back the police won't help her so she's going to go to la times and tell the story which is going to include your name right and you're sitting on this big ass board right because i already know this from talk to some other very wealthy people i said this ain't gonna go well for you you know and he was really uncomfortable i said now if i was you what i would do is i would probably just give her the money and sign a non-disclosure agreement be done with this [ __ ] because you're married you have two kids in england and i had a really freaking squirm in his seat you know and so he agreed he's like no you know what you're right you're right you're right let me talk to my lord i go and that's the smart thing to do sir so he leaves by the time i get back to my client's apartment um he already talked to his lawyer who talked to her lawyer basically they painted this picture that i was a thug right you set your thumbs over i go good that's exactly what i wanted to think right so it actually worked right and so they wanted to settle for uh 250 000 and i knew she was not going to go for that and she's like no not no but hell no i said you probably ought to take the 250 because you're not going to get the million i said this guy is going to jump on the next smoke and he's gonna be gone you're not gonna get him that's a billionaire he didn't even steal it but i said you you lost all your ability to leverage all this [ __ ] you know and uh she was stubborn right so she was worth millions and millions of millions dollars but this jewelry she had on she was wearing it for a jeweler basically advertising right anytime the jewelry leaves the jewelry store it's no longer insured off the property so it was stolen off the property so guess who's liable right she's gotta [ __ ] a million dollars for diamonds right so that was the problem she didn't want it you know and then there's all this other stuff was involved with the trust fund and her family and how that's gonna bode and just man you know and so um so finally you know we get we get through most of all of this right i realized nothing's going to happen it was more it had to do with floyd mayweather had to do with las vegas fights and all kinds of crazy stuff happened there this girl shows up in las vegas wearing all the diamonds on top of that i've got the fbi engaged the cia i got the i got everybody the marshals from california to chicago to las vegas engaged to run this chick down man and she was really cagey man really good and and beating beating the system man all the traps that laid for she circumvented them got away from it all but uh finally i just told the client i said listen to me how much longer you need before you know and she's i need you forever no really how long have you been saying i need you forever and i realize ah [ __ ] you know this is this is happening man and they got really bizarro you know hey i need you up in my room at two o'clock i need to talk about something yes ma'am on the way where you at i'm right here in the bed no clothes on i need to sit right here i gotta talk about something like oh god no you know this is not you know i'm thinking i'm not gonna get paid if i keep doing this you know finally finally one day i just said listen i gotta go i said i gotta move on i said she wanted to get married she fell in love with me i'll be honest with you any other guy you know would have been a millionaire overnight and she was really attractive um beautiful man very smart very personable she had everything going for everything man and uh i guess with maturity with age you know you get a little bit smarter and i started thinking with this head and not the other head and i realized that you know you know i got other things i want to do with my life and i don't want to mooch off anybody else i don't want her money i don't want to be around her friends i told us in three months we'll kill each other i said that's just how it is i said it's all cool now but three months i said you won't stab me i won't stand you um because you're friends i said so i'm gonna leave tomorrow morning and so in the morning i show up to her apartment and say goodbye she got dilemma waiting for me and she begs me one more time she goes please go with me to uh she wanted me to go to um uh god damn it there's a resort out there on the uh out in the desert she goes go with me for spay would save me for the day and for the night tomorrow i'll put you on a private jet and fly home and you know end the story and i'm like for what i said we're gonna go there and we're gonna do it like rabbits and i said tomorrow morning i'm still getting on the airplane nothing's gonna change you know and uh and i did i walked away right there and i never looked back um and i i have no regrets you know whatsoever but i gotta tell you any other guy would have jumped all over it and maybe 10 years ago or 15 years ago i'd have jumped all over it too different circumstances but you know sometimes you realize what's more important in life and it's not always money it's not other people's money it's not even a beautiful woman sometimes you know your own sovereignty man your own you know you that is all that matters your happiness you know and how you achieve dale i think what you're telling us you will never take the easy way regardless of uh like you know i could have and i didn't i could have and i did man oh yeah yeah she know what she gave me so she's like look she goes i need you here for another 30 days here's my bmw 750 li she gives me a brand new bmw 750 li and she turns around and buys a black when she gives me the white one she knows i like them you know yeah because this george and i'm like oh my god man so she just gives me this brand new bmw 750 li she's throwing it all at me you know 1500 dinner every night you know 15 000 you know apartment um you know it was amazing i'll say this she was a good girl um you know she just got caught up in something you know she's lived her whole life a life of you know the rich and famous right right so she hasn't been exposed to street thugs you know she hasn't been exposed to this kind of crime and suddenly she became victimized by and then all of a sudden she meets a guy like me you know that comes along that you know i got on this and she's used to you know the skinny guy jeans you know skinny jean guy you know and and these you know beta males and also and i come along right and i'm actually not even interested other than doing my job and that probably drove over even crazier you know and so right so that's how this whole thing started just spinning out of control so uh so the bodyguard if i had that was probably the only bodyguard work i actually enjoyed had a lot of friends benefits obviously and it wasn't really like it was real and it was serious i mean i was i was packing um i brought armor i i talked to people in the intel services they all agreed and said listen whatever that guy says believe it he will do it yes guy is no joke he's a felon many times over he was a gang leader um he got out and became a life coach which was kind of funny right because i'm actually a life coach now he he's calling himself a life coach you know but he's actually a thug yeah you tend to be a life coach right yeah and he's dangerous i mean that's something that that isn't really being reported on a lot in the news but like that's a massive problem in l.a right now is that wealthy people are like they're being targeted coming out of stores like the like it's it's a serious problem in la right now that's not really being reported on yeah no and you know what i'm i was living with her um it was just for her it was just you know me driving her crazy man she didn't know how to how to deal with any of this stuff you know and she's looking at me like help yeah i'm like [ __ ] you know what what am i gonna do yeah i can't even find these guys you know um but the bodyguard work you know that was that's another story um it's coming out my book more detail and uh i i have to protect the uh the innocent of course you know i'm not gonna mention her name or locations and things like that but outside the story but it's gonna be pretty cool i get a lot of guys that contact me that are interested in doing bodyguard work and uh they want to know what it's like to get to that role how to get to that world and it looks sexy you know the movie the bodyguard with kevin costner and whitney houston i did it but 10x um yeah but it's it'll that's hollywood man and that's not the real world real world it sucks yeah people are dicks yeah yeah i mean especially when you're coming from a special operations background like you're looked down upon your judgment isn't trusted you have to pretend your clients are funny when they're not they're smart when they're dumb i've talked to guys who've done like ep jobs for like gulf state you know millionaires kids billionaires kids like horror stories i i've done i've done that too and my advice is never never seek to be a bodyguard seek to be a person who needs bodyguards like being a bodyguard is is like being it's like it's like being a bathroom attendant basically you yeah you know so here's i'll tell you a quick story this morning in paris so i'm with this woman right her husband she's the mexican chick um she's got this i mean she's just very eccentric man she had a pink uh pepto-bismol pink phantom rolls royce right this thing was insane 100 carat diamond rings coming out of [ __ ] you know the hood ornament [ __ ] you know like damn but uh we were we were in paris and uh she and i so she wanted to go shopping so all her friends were gay guys right she hardly had i never saw around any women um i don't know maybe the gay guys didn't threaten her but anyways always shopping you know they're eating lunch and they're doing this and i'm standing at the bar go jesus christ can we leave now and so i remember one day we were on the street corner and i called for the limousine and she's facing the street on the sidewalk facing the street i'm standing behind her about 10 feet facing her watching her back looking for the vehicles coming and i kind of just got a you know a tactical position there and i noticed this guy's walking past me he looked like he was maybe from libya or something like that um and he's smoking a little cigarette he's got these little beady eyes like a little rat you know and he's looking back and he's eyeballing her purse she had this big pink louis vuitton purse right big ass thing man um and so she's holding it and she's wearing her fur she's got diamonds all over she's worth like 10 million dollars just standing there right and so and he's he's sizing her up he's smoking sick and he's walking back he doesn't see me standing in the back right i'm kind of standing and watching and he's going back and forth back and forth and finally i see he finally gets the nerve up he's gonna rob her right and he throws the cigarette down he starts to make the move and then i step forward and he sees me and i look at him i go all right and he looks at me goes ah oh you know like this he walks away right and i said i don't say nothing to the client she has no idea this is going down right i just saved her ass right and uh the limousine shows up we get in the vehicle we drive back to the four seasons and get out and there's like six french dudes standing on the corner right you know they're all staying the four seasons you know you could tell they're you know guys got money and stuff they're wearing their trench coats and they're talking to friends and they're talking about where they're going to go party or you know whatever they're going to do right and they're shooting the [ __ ] the door opens up she gets out she's got legs to kill she's wearing his mini skirt you know big-ass boobs you know and it's like she gets out and they're like whoa i did all i'm dialing in on and i'm trying to get out of the vehicle on the other side and so i'm coming around the corner they don't see me yet and they're looking at her and i can tell they're getting ready to say something to her right come on and here i go again around the back of the car i'm like don't [ __ ] do it man you're going to get me in trouble don't do it and they look at me like okay okay like whoo and we go inside and uh she stops me and she goes she go did you see those men did you see the way they were looking at me how about that she's pissing her mother because they're checking her out i'm like yeah ma'am i said yeah but they didn't say nothing to you right because they didn't threaten you right yeah yeah it didn't do anything right you just checked you out right so she goes up to the room i go to my room next time i get a phone call from the old man don't ever let anybody disrespect my wife like that again i'm like what you know what am i supposed to do right beat the [ __ ] out of these dudes checking her out you know right you know i'm going to wear a burqa next time look at her you know right yeah and uh but it was that it was always that kind of stuff right always that kind of this guy literally expected me to just beat the [ __ ] out of people right you're looking at his wife right yeah and and all and i was actually the smallest of the bodyguards i was six foot about 220 you know i was pretty yolked man i was about five percent body fat and uh and i was the smallest guy all the guys were bigger than me i hired them all they were all big dudes have fall heads they were telephones you know just different colors and different nationalities yeah and uh but he really wanted that he everywhere we went he wanted us to be flexing because we weren't we weren't carrying weapons and uh and every time we would go to like he would his wife always want to go dancing right he's an old dude he didn't want to go dancing but you know he had to keep her happy if you want to get those drawers he better keep rapping so we'd go to a bar and she'd be out the dance floor dance and i'd have to stand on the dance floor next to her while she's freaking dancing keeping all the guys away from because they all want to rub on her and [ __ ] you know and then they go over and harass the old man because he's a little chinese guy you know and then i got to go over there and you know interfere get back you know you know leave the box alone you know it's like all day long you know doing this kind of weird [ __ ] you know yeah it's the worst man it's it's yeah it's really bad when like they want to start [ __ ] with other people and you have to like interview yeah because they're talking smack she did that all the time and she would actually start trouble with other women and men and look at you like do something get in there yeah yeah we were driving to office one day and she was in her pic phantom right and she was in front of me i was in the fall car the road was really congested her office was about 100 meters down to the right and so being the kind of the way she is right she just asked like he gets out of the car grabs her purse and starts walking down the sidewalk and uh i [ __ ] so i jump by the car i'm trying to keep up with her and there's a guy leaning up against a light post right just kind of lean up against look at his phone and she walks right up to him and karate chops his arm and he [ __ ] falls over and she just walks right past him and he's like looking out like what the [ __ ] and i come walking behind go hey crazy and he looked at me like okay thank you thank you thank you because i don't want to be out there on the street fighting the guy because this kind of [ __ ] she's doing all the time you know um but i've done a lot of bodyguard work and it's always uh it's always an adventure you know and uh it requires maturity can you tell us the uh the singapore story yeah okay so i'm writing a bunch of books right so as i mentioned earlier after i wrote american badass you know i thought that was it you know the sun was setting on my on my life you know all the cool stuff was over but it actually just started man you know we talked about yemen already la hong kong um so then what happened was so here in indonesia my wife and i i own a security company as i mentioned earlier uh providing explosive detector dogs troll attack dogs for all the venues and stuff around here and uh so i ended up going to singapore to meet another guy a friend and he goes hey i want you to meet this guy so i meet this guy this guy is a um he's in the in the shipping business right very wealthy guy very wealthy in his 40s um you know he's from india but you never know you would think he's american everything about him said american right um everything so um he's like hey man i got this big-ass german shepherd you know i bought it for my kids you know and uh he goes i like to have them trained or you train dogs would you be willing to come over and train my dog for me uh okay you're playing you know are you playing i'm playing so so i ended up flying back and forth going to singapore to train the guy's damn dog for him he lived in sentosa island which is like hollywood um guys very wealthy rolls royce lamborghinis you know married um two kids and uh and the dog and so he wanted me come over and train the dog for him so i'd go with it for like a week at a time hang out you know in singapore go go to his house two three times a day spend about 10 minutes training the dog and then i was off on my own in singapore hanging out how cool is that [ __ ] um and i was i did that quite a bit kept coming back before kept coming back and forth so one day uh i'm walking with him and his son his son's like nine years old his daughter's about 12. his wife is iranian i thought she was actually russian but she was turned out she was iranian and uh so he and i are walking and we're walking with the dog we're going down to the to the harbor um and uh he goes hey man he goes you're still doing security stuff i said yeah he goes i might need some help okay what's your name so he tells me this story right so he's got this instagram account um and he's he's he loves watches right so he's always showing off all his watches on instagram you know millions of dollars worth of watches and so one day apparently this hot chick on instagram you know starts chatting him up he starts chatting her up you know she's in another country and but nonetheless you know they're chatting each other up i'm i'm sure there were dick pics and stuff floating around but uh it kind of escalated in this thing you know and uh so turns out over time this chick on the other hand is actually a dude right which is probably part of a syndicate and this was a setup and so now they've got you know all these compromising text messages pictures things like that you know and uh so then they can't reach out to his wife and go hey you this is us um you're you know your wife's your husband's been flirting with this woman on instagram you know getting pretty out of hand blah blah blah we have more information we've got an entire portfolio if you want to see it but you know you got to buy plane tickets we got to come to you we got to hand it to you you got to pay us this is what the cost is going to be good so you know she's thinking oh yeah my rich husband's cheating on me you know and i'm gonna get get his ass so um so she buys this guy's ticket one guy um she meets him at the air report the guy goes gets his baggage out of baggage claim he's got a knife in the bag he pulls the knife out puts in his pants comes out and baggage plane he meets her puts a knife on her side takes her over to atm machine she cleans out the atm machine she's wearing a multi-million dollar cartier with all kinds of diamonds on it he said i'll take that too and all the money and i'll take your cell phone it basically just robs her right there right so so he leaves she thinks he left but he didn't he actually stayed overnight in a hotel well guess what she didn't put a passcode on her phone didn't put a passcode on the phone come on really so he goes back to the room he goes to the phone he's got all the kids phone numbers husband's phone number husband's contacts phone numbers clients phone numbers her phone numbers alternate phone number he's got everything everything on this phone and he shoots her text messages tomorrow morning meet me at this corner on this atm machine don't be late and be alone she shows up again here we go again same old rodeo knife in the side go to the atm machine empties it out takes whatever else he can take off her and he disappears so she still hasn't told anybody um you know and so he go the other guy goes back he's actually um so he's iranian but he lives in turkey okay um with a network in russia a lot all right so and i know all this for a reason so he goes back he starts messaging the kids sending them video he's holding a gun he's holding a knife you know he's a mature somebody do that you know he's threatening the kids all right and basically the old man goes what's going on and finally the wife says hey this is what happened they go to the police they check the camera sure [ __ ] it's all true right but they can't get this guy because he's in another country they can't exercise him so when he comes back we can arrest him otherwise no show and i said you know i said you know what's happening right i said this guy is threatening your kids threatening you he's going to call your clients he's got compromising pictures he said this is not over i said he'll never come back because he knows a worn out for his arrest but he's going to send somebody else in his stead right you won't know who it is right until it's too late they're going to threaten you you're going to want money and if you don't do it they're going to hurt you or your kids and so you're [ __ ] and he knew it right and i knew it i knew the play and uh and so he's like can you help me yeah of course money though but you know i ain't doing this [ __ ] for free you know and uh and so that turned into um okay a phased approach um you gotta be careful what i say but uh it turned into a phased approach i contacted a guy he's a german he's a private investigator he's got military background um good dude i've actually been working with him since then on some other projects and uh he's very well connected very well can i told him what the problem was tell him give him an idea who the guy was we had that information off the instagram we had some other sources i was able to tap into we knew the guy was we knew where he was so now what we had to do is tap into local resources to pid them um track them down we had them do we had we literally had um uh cameras from streetlight cameras uh of this guy in his car with his mercedes license plates to include he's wearing a damn watch he stole from the wife cartier he's got it you know it's like damn you can't you know wow and so anyways so the the mission was all right first of all proof of concept i show i'll show you that we can find them and we can get to them but then you know then there's the next part parts of this thing you gotta you gotta pay for everything right yeah but the first one's just proof that we did it we can do it second part is um you know the deployment plays and then the employment phase execution did i say execution no employment phase i gotta watch what i say right so um so anyways um that was it was a phased approach right and so basically it required the only way you're gonna get to the sky is you gotta get to the sky and and you gotta get this guy with all the stuff get it back and make sure that he never does anything like this again because start figuring out he belonged to a bigger syndicate there's a syndicate out there there's lots of not that this is what they do right internet scams and they don't [ __ ] around man they look they will fly around the world to to complete their mission man and they they don't care man so anyways uh all that happened uh the details will be in the book um i want to say too much because it could be misinterpreted what actually happened what didn't happen those are kind of yeah and these are the kind of things that have happened to me you know that here i am minding my business train a guy's dog in singapore and next thing you know i'm like what going head-to-head with [ __ ] iranians so um you know it's like wow so anyways uh yeah it never ends man it never ends um you know i mentioned earlier a story earlier as well that happened to me in bali when i came back with the with the military and people trying to arrest me and isis there's literally there was an isis cell here um you know they were i believe they were targeting me and my business partner but uh it's like it never ends i told you my friend right uh earlier before the show dean he's uh he's making a movie in uh not a movie a tv series in the philippines i think this is year number three he called me about five days ago asked me if i could come to the philippines one help him with security um he feels threatened but two he wants me to have a major role on the show with him and uh and the story's called it's called uh something in paradise i think it's almost paradise almost paradise yeah that's it yeah i'm not christian kane i mean christian kane and uh and so he's a dea agent you know he's medically you know discharged he decides i'm gonna live in the philippines in paradise just live on the beach chasing chasing chasing women having a good time and all of a sudden he finds himself rolled up and just with the mob and the syndicate and all this crime [ __ ] and i'm like you know what that sounds like my damn story you know it's like it's the same damn story you know except mine's in bali man he doesn't live in the philippines you know but i don't look for this stuff it just happens you know it just shows up um there's another story i didn't i didn't really delve into and that was uh dubai um i was approached by an american who lost his visa um so what happens like in the middle east is if you owe money to anybody there banks the government you're in any kind of debt what they will do is take your visas strip you of your passport so you can't leave the country they call it velvet cage you can't do anything you can't walk work you can't leave you're just there until you pay your debt back you know how you gonna pay your debt back if you can't work you can't leave that's up to you to figure out otherwise you're not going nowhere you're gonna live in a hot box for the rest of your life that's what it takes so i had a guy approach me american um interesting fella um former infantry guy the um black guy and he just one day just said i'm going to move to dubai and open up a hvac company and a deep drilling company an 11 bravo infantry guy and he does this damn and he was worth millions right and he's very successful and then he had some medical issues with one of his kids he owned the hospital out of money and in 2010 is when you know they had to bust in in the middle east everything went under financially right so suddenly he found himself owing lots of money and he ain't got it and they stripped him of his passport his wife and kids got out of country he didn't make it out so he'd already been there for like five years when he met me one day in a bar i was going to get something to eat and i walk in i'm wearing my yellow python cowboy boots and uh he noticed he recognized the boots he recognizes me from social media comes over to me goes hey are you you know dale comstock you know and i'm always like why he wants to know you know okay spread so he's like uh you know hey follow you and boost blah blah blah i guess [ __ ] you know got to talk but he didn't tell me his dilemma yet right and he exchanged phone numbers i go back to indonesia a couple months later he texted me said hey man are you coming back i said yeah i'm going to be back here soon you know because i like to meet so we meet and uh he tells me a story right he's been living there for five years can't get out he's like can you get me out so like get me out of country the problem is all the neighboring countries have laws of reciprocity like qatar you know they'll turn you back in right you can't get out so there's only really one way out you can do the long walk through the desert and hope god you never get compromised but you still got to go somewhere or you go via the ocean somewhere and uh so i told him i could help him but you know it's going to cost money you know i'm doing this on my pocket and so there was a lot of a lot of issues with getting a guy out over the ocean um so i would need to be able to take him by boat at least 500 miles that means i need a big goddamn boat they can hold a lot of fuel right which costs a lot of money so it gets worse and worse and worse right but i said so i finally convinced him to go we got any buddies that need to get out too i don't care for nationals you know you got four or five guys you know guys you all chip in and it'll be a lot easier to get i had a pretty good plan too man uh it was a really good plan um i had to do a lot of secret squirrel stuff because one thing about the emirates if you go to dubai or abu dhabi anywhere over there you'll never see a cop you'll never see a cop you don't need cops you know why because they got one hell of an informant system and they got cctv camera everywhere right everybody is an informant everybody gets a blue chip if they ride out and everything's on camera so it's pretty damn secure over there it's real secure and you know somebody's watching they're always watching i show up one night i go to this bar and i'm there with a bunch of chicks and they're you know and i got my book and all of a sudden about 30 minutes late this dude shows up sits down next to me going hey how are you doing dale who the hell are you he goes well you know i'm with immigration and this and that and that he goes how about tomorrow you and i meet for lunch okay you know hey dude i'm just trying to get some chores and i'm selling my book you know it's like we'll talk tomorrow oh yeah i'll see you i'll see you there then you know of course i never would saw them but uh they're good man they're really good um so everything i had to do over there had to be under the radar you know and i'm always got to be super super careful um so anyways that turned into you know safe houses rat lines you got issues with international waters uh passports leaving the leaving the docks you know um i had a good plan though i had a really good plan involved jet skis so but uh anyways uh that was another one of my little uh adventures again here i am just minding my business in a bar trying to get a drink maybe [ __ ] some nooky somewhere and this guy wants to freaking help me escape from the country and i talked to my lawyer i go hey um i said what do you think about this he goes what what would you call this if i did this he goes human trafficking i said okay got it forget i said anything all right so i kept them out of the conversation after that i was like we're not having this conversation human trafficking what so yeah but i guess he's right i guess that would be human trafficking let's uh let's hit up some user questions here uh dave yeah for for people who are watching dale if they want to contact you uh to procure your uh services as a security consultant or a concubine or whatever the case may be um i won't say a human trafficker um where can they find you um so i'm i'm mostly on instagram now um official american badass dale comstock i've i'm getting really getting far away from facebook i'm still on there um i'm i actually got banned i got banned from linkedin and from twitter all right you know for stating an opinion that uh of course you know how that all works so they didn't like it because it's me but they actually gave me my twitter account back yesterday um and linkedin i'm still working on that but uh and i only use those well anyways that's another story so you can find me on twitter now um maybe linkedin we try to get reinstated today but for sure instagram facebook um i have a website dalecomstock.com you can go through that you can reach out email me through there um my email address is american badass at dalecomstock.com it's pretty easy remember americanmaticsdalecomstock.com so you can reach me there as well um those are the main ways to catch up i'm not hard to find and and people can uh like you're like you i know you're working on numerous books right now and and honestly thank god you're immortal because you know it'll take time to write all those stories but but for your first book people can they can read american badass uh it's available on amazon it's available anywhere people buy books uh amazon.com yep and and it's interesting because you know you talk about uh building these improvised explosive devices for you know when you're working with uae and you know what a lot of people don't understand who haven't been in the military or haven't been in that situation is that explosives and breaching is it it's its own very specific field and when you're in delta you were the breacher in panama for the uh the american hostage cruise like you breached the the cell there which you know after years and years of combat in afghanistan and iraq and whatever like it panama is such is such a forgotten event but at a point in time it was one of the primary combat events that had happened in u.s you know in u.s history of that time yeah no and you're right it's uh you know it was well executed well planned well executed um you know we didn't take any casualties um of the of the assault team that went in i think it's 23 or 26 of us total um we had some we had wias we got helicopters get shot down but nobody was ki aid and we completed the mission we we you know we saved kurt muse um we plucked them out of the jaws of death man literally and uh it's an amazing story when you read it you know it's when you when you know all the details that went into that um things that could have went bad you know like my little my little faux pas there at the door um you know i fixed it though and uh he's alive so it's all worked out but uh yeah you know i i look at you know i look at that i look at my whole military career so you know i started out in the 82nd airborne division infantry long-range scout the four-year mark had a major decision do i want to stay in do i want to get out i decided to go for the gusto i'm going to try out for delta which was almost statistically impossible for me to succeed but i did at the age of 23 youngest guy ever average age 33. um next thing you know i'm there 10 years i go to the q court while i'm there i've become a light and heavy weapons guy and i'm going to third special forces group became a teamster and i had seen combat every every combat event since 1983 grenada right up to the presence in fact i've been to all of them with the exception of bosnia um that's the only one i didn't participate in because i was in that transition uh retiring out of the military um but i don't feel like i really missed anything either but i've been in every conflict since that time up to the very present to include yemen um but uh i went from you know i thought okay go into delta that's you know i remember guys just say that's the final frontier in the military that is the pinnacle you know everybody look seals dealt force isn't trying to be a seal but we've got seals they're trying not to be delta you know everybody wants to be at the pinnacle that's delta um and so i thought you know man i reached the pinnacle at the age of 23 then i get out and then i get recruited by the alphabet company and uh you know as you know you know dave it's not easy right getting through all that the vetting process the you know the polygraph testing the background checks there's a lot that goes into that super high attrition rate um probably higher than the unit and so um but here we are right made it and so then i thought well does it i thought delta was the final stretch here okay i guess this is the final frontier or is it and then i get approached with this whole other thing this mercenary work and then i realized no that's actually the final frontier because now i'm going downrange with the same weapons al qaeda has i'm i'm literally sewing like a grandma i'm stowing my freaking equipment trying to make [ __ ] to fight with right i'm improvising everything i got and i'm going to go in a street fight with the bad guys no better uh equipped than they are right and the only thing that's gonna win the day is my skills themselves versus their skill set right and so to me that was the ultimate uh ultimate that was being that's the ultimate warrior right there when you can go to combat and you don't have big army behind you support you you don't have close air support you're right you have a medic to drag your ass off the battlefield it's just you and them and it comes really it comes down to your your training and your mindset and your warrior spirit when it comes to that and you walk away and you're still got your arms and legs you know it's a win and to me that was the ultimate so i feel like i've gone the entire gamut you know the entire spectrum of warfare um as a warrior you know from you know basic infantry guide to mercenary and everything in between um and it's never enough it's never enough so i sit here and i ask myself if somebody were to come here right now and go i've got an opportunity for you to be interested there's a pretty good chance i'll say two things how much and when do i leave right you know you know that's the truth you know it's in your it's in the blood man once it's in there it's in there you can't you know you always go back for another drink at the well until you fall in the well and can't get back out you know well um it's funny too and this is getting to the questions that people ask but uh something somebody sent us an email earlier um and uh on our patreon and join our patreon if you're not a member why aren't you uh but but somebody's writing d and you know you're talking about you know always reaching that top and then going out and you know sort of being this consummate warrior even when you're fighting without all the us support without the aircraft without all this and somebody wrote d and said there's an old team house episode where a viewer asked the guys they asked jack jack and i for the 12 people they would want on their oda or their team in combat and dave said he would take himself in 11 dale comstocks you know and but i better start reproducing them but but you know like we've known each other for a long time and you've always been that you know you have been that you know sort of costco eternal warrior that the guy that was that was bred for war and you know we interview a lot of you know whenever you people who like mack v sog and then went to rhodesia and like that is you you're the modern equivalent of guys still getting after it as they're pushing 70. you know we know some of those dudes you know you know the the the man bred for war yeah no it's you know you're right and i do know some of those guys you probably know the same guys we're talking about you know that they're actually also my inspiration when i see these guys like jesus you're 78 years old and you're still out there kicking ass you know it's what what they have done they've broken paradigms for me because we're all believed we all are inculcating this mindset you know we only have so much so much utility so much shelf life you know when in fact we we can fight look man some of the best warriors are the oldest warriors on the planet man you know um you know you got you got everything you got to experience your ornery you know you freaking don't take a lot of [ __ ] no more and uh you got past all the fear and stuff you know and um it's always been a part of who i am growing up you know my dad was in the army for 20 years i grew up mostly in germany at the base is over there and i remember the all we did as the boys you know we we would go out with our bb guns and and our dad's army equipment and helmets and k-pop and load-bearing equipment i play army every day and shoot each other with bb guns and [ __ ] you know and uh hand-to-hand combat we played war and that's what i was brought up in it was playing war i was i was in the golgi already when i was a little kid man you know and it just seemed like a natural fit because when my dad retired um you know we retired out of fort wauchuk arizona we moved to san francisco we moved to san francisco i mean how how cruel is that right and i go to san francisco and i'm like a fish out of water i go holy [ __ ] you know these kids are not like the people i'm growing up around you know it's a totally different culture and i couldn't wait to go back i couldn't wait until i was of age and i could i was able to go to the recruiter and so as soon as i was old enough i went down to sign the papers and put me in coach i couldn't wait to go back because the military culture is like no culture in the world unfortunately we live in a society now where they're trying to dilute it they're trying to water it down there's all this political correctness crap is setting in um it's a different army i'm starting to see it um you know and and uh it's not the one i grew up in and we'll see how that works out for us in the future but something ain't gonna work out well but uh that's the mindset i was raised in you know i was always a warrior i was always a fighter um even my parents you know my parents were like turning the other cheek to walk away they're like kick his ass if you'll kick his ass don't come home i'm gonna kick your ass that was my parents man you know they they were warriors too my mom and my dad yeah fit fools and expected me to fight and if you got hurt tough [ __ ] you come home or hurt you again you that's how i was raised and guess what i'm not a bad guy i have no criminal record zero you can check it out said nothing i've never done nothing wrong i don't even have speeding tickets okay i'm a good dude but i do what i do is i do for for righteousness that's what i think is right you know i stand for i stand to fight for the weak i stand for fighting for people that are the innocent you know that's what i'm here for and the world needs guys like me especially our country they need us yeah you know they need us you know and uh whether they like it or not they need us you know and so i'm proud of that and i have no regrets it's made me who i am i've learned a lot of lessons i'm not perfect made a lot of mistakes um but uh i continue to grow continue to evolve and even though i said earlier i'm 59 years old i don't feel like i'm 59 i'll stomp the [ __ ] out of any 29 year old out there man all day long yeah you know i can still shoot i can still fight i can still do everything i did before because i choose the things that way right you know i choose to think that way and uh i'll always be a warrior um i kind of like paradise right now but you know what like i said somebody walked through that door go hey cops i got a deal for you uh let's let's roll into some viewer questions so uh uh uh podium one uh thank you very much uh can you talk about the funniest experience uh and lesson learned from gary o'neil look uh repeat that again the funnest experience the funniest yeah the the funniest experience uh learning oh yeah yeah yeah so i met gary o'neil in 1982 out of camp mccall now back then he was a stud black hair you know that was a freaking machine man and he still is man i love gary man he's a good dude um didn't know anything about him my whole platoon my alert platoon went out to camp mccall to the seer course and it was cold i remember it's like november um and we went in a bear pit every morning to do hand-to-hand combat right so you remember you know sawdust pit you know especially when it's cold and it's wet it's like freaking concrete right so um but we're out there and we're standing there circling our patrol caps stuff you know young guys and then gary comes out and he's the instructor for the combatives portion we don't know anything about this guy and then we start hearing the stories all right guys walk through 77 ambushes you know vietnam work this [ __ ] that that silence take out you know he's the expert with the knife and he's been taking dudes out all his life you know like whoa what the [ __ ] right and then uh and then he starts going into the mind over matter stuff right and uh like okay so he has a bucket of water out there a couple bucks of water with a rope tied to it and he's got bicycle spokes and he starts with taking one of the bicycle spokes and he pulls the skin out of his neck and he jabs a bicycle spoke to his neck right and then he picks up the rope in the bucket with water loops around the thing and he lifts it up and his neck's all stretched out and he's going around circles to spin the bucket and we're like holy [ __ ] right then he stops he puts spokes through his arms right and he lifts up the buckets again and he's swinging him around right yeah and like we're like this is some masochistic [ __ ] right here right then he lays down and he has a dude drive over with a quarter-ton jeep over his belly and he gets up he goes see i don't mind it don't matter right it's like jesus christ right because i'm going to teach you how to fight and how to win and how to kill you know and i was in awe man i was like wow wow this guy is like a real life superhero man you know i just saw it and so right then and there gary o'neil became my military mentor for the rest of my life i have modeled myself as a soldier after him no [ __ ] i read the books right i'm like this dude that's what i want to be like i want to be that guy you know and so i followed gary over the years you know got out he started bouncing i've heard all the stories you know um he was hanging around jim west smokey might be he's a good friend of mine um you know then it was an ichanus and all those guys you know i heard all the stories and stuff i thought man that's why that's why i want to be a soldier to guys like that that's the kind of i want to be that guy you know um it reminds me when i went to third group one time the sergeant major commander major calls me his office just met him and he's like comstock let me ask you a question he goes what's wrong with rambo it's a rambo you know that's wrong with rambo i thought about it i go i don't know nothing no that's right there's nothing wrong with rambo he goes why can't we feel more like rambo he goes there's nothing wrong with rambo he goes i want you to train all my odas in combat hand combat and uh right on so i can so i did you know i started running all the hand-to-hand training for a third special forces group i was running uh a-teams through my training every two weeks another team every morning on my own time zero 500 to 700 in the morning i was going in on my own time training odas and combatives you know i wrote the manual all that [ __ ] but uh so i look at gary o'neill right it's always been my mentor you know we've we've crossed paths here and there we've done some interviews together and what was interesting is when i wrote my book american badass i did not know that he was actually writing american warrior at the same time at the same time american warrior american badass i go man that is so cool he's my mentor he is the american warrior you know i'm just a dumbass badass you know following him you know and so i'm american basket american lawyer and i just thought that was really kind of cool that uh you know my mentor is writing the book also you know and i'm able to write a book because of his mentorship of what he showed me early in the life you know he molded me as a warrior as a soldier now i've got a lot of mentors my father was my mentor um big time my number one mentor my grandfather um you know jim smokey west was actually one of my mentors for martial arts i mean this guy is this guy taught me how to [ __ ] how to really fight yeah you know you guys know you know yeah we've had him on and smoking yeah yeah he's actually one of my mentors as well right and then gary o'neil so i've got different mentors for different parts of my life but i'm the amalgamation of all of those guys the good and the bad and that's who i am and so you know hopefully now you know i am now a mentor for many out there i do have a lot of young men that follow me i have a lot of coaching clients that come to me and go hey i want to learn man you know i want to learn the mindset you know and so i teach them how to think not what to think how to think right and uh that's what made all the difference is you know this way of thinking that gary has you know and jim has and you know my father has and my grandfather has there's certain people in this world that have shaped the way i think and it's because of that um i am who i am today uh chris wilson thank you very much dale do you think you would have whooped uh tim says mancy had that fight not been shut down yeah hell yeah all day long man that's funny you said that bring that up because not too many people know about that so it was 19 um i'm going to say like 19 88 89 something like that i can't remember now so though i fought the first valley tudo match in the united states in richmond virginia vale tudo is portuguese for anything goes ufc was just coming out um i got you know i had an opportunity to fight this valley tudor match i went to richmond uh it was three five minute rounds there's a sanctuary street fight there were no rules i broke both my hand jacked up the other guy put him in a c caller um and then i ended up in richmond virginia and i was invited to go up there i think it was frank cucci um he had a school up there he's he hosts this fight i was invited to come up and fight uh schumanski who was at the time uh one of the blue team commanders right and uh apparently he was the collegiate level wrestler you know american blah blah blah and uh they wanted me to fight him so they wanted they killed you know they freight couched it as um you know navy seal versus delta force battle of the elite right so um so i go up there actually the unit sergeant major who went up there also to watch the fight because we already had some beer bets going because up to this point i don't know if you've ever heard of the ct olympics but it's an event that happens usually like in austria they invite all the all the swat teams counter terrorist teams to come and compete right and uh it's usually 7 500 teams we would feel the team every year we actually had to try out for this team there's five guys and two spares uh you know dev group would send their team and we would beat everybody's ass even the seals in the water we out swam them outshot them we always took number the top five positions always right and so they're sorry i made would have to keep giving my sergeant major a keg of beer i there's always a beer bed or some [ __ ] like that so they're like okay let these two guys fight battle elite you know fight for another keg of beer so i'm gonna go win another keg of beer for my star major and so we show up in the morning and uh you know get all the the work up with the doctor the pre-checks i think i'm good to go we'll come back that night i'm going to kick his ass on my agenda um and so when i get i show up they're like uh hey the seal got dequeued and i'm like why he got herpes i go what does that mean he goes well you know if you squirt some herpes juice in your eyeball you go blind and sue everybody like really what okay so okay and so they had me fight the west virginia tough man champion and uh i made short work of that guy freaking took him out pretty fast but so i never got a chance to fight him but could i have beat him hell yeah i'm a fighter man i'm pretty damn good um one thing i got that most guys don't have is i got heart man i got big lungs and i got a lot of endurance man you beat the [ __ ] out of me for hours eventually you're gonna wear yourself out and i'm just gonna beat you up you know yeah but uh i think i could have beat him no doubt i could have beat him i know i could have beat him you know say to me guys he kicked my ass man only gotta kick my ass at jim west yeah oh that guy scares me man i mean i've been thrown across the room by him a few times son can attack i mean i don't think you know like i i don't think that people who you know who don't know smokey understand just what no and not even just like how tough he is but what a skilled fighter he is like they don't understand what that actually means he's a skilled fighter i'd go further than that i've told him this before he is a skilled instructor he's one of the best instructors i've ever met in my life and and that's where he's real like yes he can kick your ass we all know that but his real strength i think is in instruction i mean he's phenomenally good yeah absolutely absolutely man first time i went to him um so my my son god man he's 34 now but when he was four he was all in the ninja turtles right he was out doing karate chops in the front yard and i said james i said you want to learn karate like the ninja turtles yeah yeah yeah yeah and so i ended up taking them to ymca okay that was a joke right at daycare and we're not getting nothing out of this i get on the phone with a friend of mine bart bart wiggins he's friends with smokey oh yeah i go dude i said dude you got any recommendations because yes man you guys you need to go see this guy smokey here's his address go there right now right he said you won't regret it that's okay so i go over there with my kid i walk in and there's all these boys out there i bought my son's age and they got these uh padded baseball bats and don't have to beat the [ __ ] out of you guys he's going for it you know you know like a freaking ball and so jim's like hey welcome in he goes hey go out there and fight you know and my son goes out there grabs one he's getting it on you know he's smiling he's happy you know my kid comes out and you like that he goes yeah yeah yeah yeah you wanna do it yeah yeah yeah so that's how we actually got started and i told my son i said listen man i said here's the deal i said if you start you have to finish what does finishing mean means you gotta have a black fella you gotta win a black belt you can't quit you agree yes and i thought why don't i just do it with him right somebody here so that's when i got involved right so now it's me and james my son fighting with smokey right training with him it was running a girl named susan um mayrand and julie i mean julian mayrand she was pretty badass man she's she stayed in there she was one of his other black belts so she would take a beating and just kept coming back for more man she was amazing but um you know so we trained with jim and by the time my kid was seven he got his first black belty gym and jim look you don't do corradas and cottas and and uh forms for your black belt you know yeah good boy here's your belt no what we were doing is we were literally going to karate clubs like in virginia closing the doors with our master and his students that he wanted to promote and we go in the back room it was a sanctuary street fight me my son and my daughter back there kicking ass like a real street fight no sparring this is a fight you know and whoever wins gets their belt you know and we did that all day long which was like cool watching my son who's seven watching my daughter who is uh nine and a half they're out there freaking throwing stubs man beating the [ __ ] out of each other man freaking bare knuckles rolling around you know they're earning their belt i go that's what i signed up for and nobody that i know of did that except for jim west yeah and you know and so so i learned from him um you know the guy's taught me a lot can't take nothing from him um i've got a lot of experience you know because of him um even my own experiences now but uh yeah if you want to learn how to fight jim west is a guy to go to man let's uh keep going through these questions here um uh alex bennett thank you um dale you started up quite a few successful security companies what are the process of starting a successful security company and keeping it good without a race to the bottom outfit yeah so um so my first company i started was in right after 9 11 actually prior to 9 11. seven months prior 911. i started coming from global security consultants i started getting into nuclear security didn't know anything about nuclear security had no idea what i was doing but i went to a security conference for the nrc because hey you guys it's me i'm here for nuclear security if you ever need some help call me right they all who are scared of me and my partner we look scary we had to lure him over to our table with little shiny things go hey i'll give you a little knife come over here and let me talk to you you know and give me a business part well then 911 happened and that's when this call started hey we need to talk to you blah blah and that's how i got into the business it was very successful 2004 we sold our company as g4s whack and hug um now what does it take so i made a mistake we made the mistake of selling the company 2004 why because we thought it's going to die off security and you know it's always overhead man we couldn't have been more wrong ever triple canopy was started after my company there was a long story behind that but basically one of the guys play the owner plagiarized my website i met the guy i know the guy personally would be squadron um and then all of a sudden boom you know i got a competitor but they still couldn't get in the nuclear industry blackwater was competing with my company uh they were just getting started again i was keeping them outside of the nuclear security industry i i i owned all that um and then i sold the company thinking i got to get rid of it you know make money and then it never went away so i ended up reincorporating again something called risk control institute i sold that in 2011. um and then i've been doing that ever since i've you know i've got my company here strategic outcomes indonesia i have a company called strategic outcomes florida um i have tier one performance coaching so these are small enterprises um you know some of them are dealing with security what what's important is and this is where everybody makes the mistake they become um discouraged you got to have a dream you got to you got to have you have to imagine what you want what it looks like every every nuance about a company you have to sense the here now that sounds kind of crazy but it actually ties into what i teach which is autogenic conditioning and future pacing so this company i have here in bali i imagined it a long time ago and i saw okay i knew i'm the only guy to know anything about training canines the only guy so suddenly my wife who doesn't know how to turn on a computer didn't know how to run a computer five years ago now runs a macbook pro because i trained her i taught her how to use excel speech sheets i taught her about hr i taught her okay we need licensing okay what do we got to do let her manage that oh we need people okay we need to train people we need to find dogs we got to train dogs so what i did is i trained the trainer program i started with my wife then i hired a field supervisor and then i hired trainers and i trained the trainers to train the trainers to train the handlers painted dogs um and this thing started to grow and verge and blossom to the point where i don't do anything my wife runs the entire company every aspect of it licensing payroll hr training she trains the dog she trains the handlers um she does you know a lot of the business interaction and networking things like that so it has it but it started with a dream the dream was i would love to live in bali paradise right where i have my own business and i get to take my dogs that i love my pets and make money off of them and to train them how cool is that it's not really a job um and so i imagined everything i have and it became a reality because because albert einstein said not just albert einstein but nikola tesla and many other physicists success is based on frequency it's not philosophy it's physics it's physics and this is the key it's not about willpower it has [ __ ] to do with willpower has [ __ ] to do with philosophy it's only going to get you so far we'll get you over the finish line is imagining where you want to be and the life that you want to live i'm actually living that life no i'm not rich i don't want to be rich that's not my objective my objective is be happy to experience all the things i want to experience and i live in bali and i live in the philippines and i live in florida all right how cool is that and i make my own hours and here i am i come in at 7 o'clock this morning do do a call with you guys you know um it's the dream it's the imagination and you it's physics it's literally physics it's always physics um that's another area you know i can't go into that now but uh it has to do with frequency it has to do with your nervous system um it has to do with metaphysics there's a lot more that goes into this but all my successes everything i've ever done in my life had nothing to do with willpower it had everything to do with imagination right so if you want to start a security company start with the dream what's it going to look like what do you want to look like what do you want it to feel like how do you want to live it you start with that then you invoke the next thing is called the law of action you have to do something start doing the research as i did started training the trainers training my wife started building it also i'm one man i'm a one-man army and i got 65 employees i got 45 trained canines i got a corporation here with a lot of assets and kicking ass right it started with it started with a dream right uh alejandra thank you very much uh same question i asked paul howe uh what do you think is the best and most effective piece of protective equipment and kit a team guy can wear and why is it the mustache thanks for coming on me this has got 33 kills my friend sorry uh r2d thank you oh did you want to respond to that yeah actually actually i do have an answer to that body armor all right so when i was in the unit all we wore was all we wore was body armor with no place level 3a right and and everybody just wore the best except for me i actually wore the collar i wore the plates and i wore the groin protect all the time and people thought i was being a [ __ ] i don't know and i had a conversation with pete blaber who was my troop commander at the time he wrote the book mission of men and me yeah um we were having this conversation about body armor and his attitude was look i want to be light you know and be able to move fast and i'm like yeah i want to be able to take a lot of hits and just keep on moving nice and slow and methodically and take them out right so it was it was a you know opposing you know uh you know posing positions on body armor most guys didn't want to even have to wear it but they had to wear it so they wore as little as they needed right so then then mogadishu happens right and freaking dudes are getting killed like the protect helmet okay i always wore the kevlar helmet i got pictures of me in the whole unit everybody wearing protect except me i'm wearing kevlar right everybody thought i was just [ __ ] until mogadishu happened then they couldn't find enough kevlar helmets they couldn't strap on enough armor they couldn't reinforce their body armor they couldn't didn't have it i'm good right put me in i'll fight the war by myself right so um and so to me that's all and i and i watched it go down to afghanistan right so guys are going out humping the mountains and stuff and all the carrying is a place carrier right they're going light just the pedals the plate carrier and like why well he has the weight you know and i'm like well dude everybody every fops got a gym now get your ass in there and go to work keep working out until you can carry all that weight it doesn't affect you i always wore full armor full plate full protection always always i don't care how high up the amount i'm going to go i always wore it and if you know if i was a weakling i made sure i got into that gym and kept working out until i could maintain it and i always carried armor to me it's the most important thing you carry beside your weapon is your armor i know a lot of guys are alive today because they were wearing armor right um they were taking hits they were taking hits right into the plate do their vest you know and they were surviving it um so to me that's the most important equipment you can carry is body armor give yourself a chance you know if it's too heavy get your ass in the gym all right work out all right build up to it that body armor eventually will become a part of your body you won't even know you're wearing it yeah you won't you know it's like my backpack i carry a backpack around 35 pounds every day it's my man first i've been carrying it forever and i get used to it it doesn't even bother me the way it carried all day long you know everybody else would be sniveling about it but you know if you do something long enough your body will adapt to it and so my answer is armor wear your armor wear all your armor okay so don't take no shortcuts just like take a shortcut with your weapon and where are those plates right yeah yeah absolutely dude the plate stopped they stopped 762 man yeah uh otherwise not doing any good uh r2d thank you very much uh thank you team house love your work another phenomenal interview well that's because we have a phenomenal guest um thanks alejandra thanks again uh with all these things you've done in the private sector how much you think a giraffe would sell for on the open market when he says open market i think it means black market uh and he says hope you can come back and definitely when your net when your next book pops stale we want yeah yeah the the giraffe is a bit of an inside joke but if you had the wager what a giraffe goes for on the black market what do you think dale i don't know uh a giraffe yeah yeah yeah you got me on that way i have no idea if you have horns [Laughter] well dale like what what if you showed up to one of your clients and they said hey you know i'm trying to get rid of this illegal zoo the last thing i have this is just a giraffe full-grown giraffe you live in bali uh would you buy it how much would you pay for a giraffe [ __ ] what am i gonna do with a giraffe man hey they do have zoos here and they actually do have uh their right here in bali you have the bali zoo and they have all kinds of elephants and tigers and [ __ ] like that stuff you would find in indonesia i don't know if you find a giraffe here but uh you know we could probably add a giraffe a couple bucks i think i i think uh it was jt patton uh who had that conundrum it was yeah and i think he i think he said it was like it was like thirty six thousand dollars i can't remember but yeah uh sporman group llc uh that's clint clint sportman thank you very much for the domain donation i think that's clint uh did you ever get a chance to meet or train with carl cestari before before he passed i don't think so yeah he was uh that's why where we all met clint he was a big uh world war two oss uh fair bar psych yeah yeah we'll have to introduce dale to clint the next time yeah for sure into the city um uh jungle jim scott thank you very much for your donation we deeply appreciate it um and that's that's that's it man dale um thank you so much for doing this interview waking up early out there in indonesia to do this this has been phenomenal man it's really fun to catch up with you again talk some more about some of these wild adventures that you get into and uh i'm looking forward to the books uh you said that the tentative title for the the next book about your uh adventures and misadvantage adventures is running the razor's edge um you're still working on it though working on a few other projects as well um yeah when you when you get some of these to publication let us know we'd love to talk some more yeah what i'm going to do is i've thought about what i'm going to do is make them all ebooks it's easier to copyright it and and send it out right and then if you're somebody that wants a hard copy then i have a source i can go to they can actually print right for someone who wants a hard copy but uh um i'm gonna kind of because i actually sell mostly ebooks on amazon even my book most people just want you know pdf copies of it so um kind of the way everybody's going now as you say so but for those that want it for nostalgia purposes or an autograph i'll make hard copies as well but um it's been on my agenda it just seems like every day i get ready to sit down and start writing again something pops up you know another to-do thing um it's all good though it's all in the right direction but i'll have it soon um i'm excited about getting it out i'm excited about getting all the books out um i think that once i'm finished with the details and uh i think i think some of them have potential to maybe be a movie you know or could have could go down that road you know absolutely dale yeah dale i uh i recently someone was talking about how this could make a great movie and i recently i volunteered myself to play a young dale comstock acid we need to get him a suit though back in 89 like dale was kind of like not quite my size but he wasn't quite dale sized today either so i think like 89 89 era i i could i could jump into that role um dale so you're doing coaching now for for either young young people who are are seeking success in whatever arena they or even executives where can they find you for their coaching if they want to hire you i would recommend you either go to my website dealcomstock.com or just directly email me american badass at dalecomstock.com and you just group do you do group coaching like there were if there were a bunch of like military hopefuls that wanted to like get together in a group uh do you do things like that yeah yeah i do group sessions um it's less expensive as well for them you know um it's more interactive um and then i do a lot of mostly private coaching most of the guys and girls that come to me uh my primary demographic is men between 45 and 59 and women i call them the old man clan they're the ones that put the kids to college the wife won't talk to them anymore and they're fat and pregnant and they're like you know when i want to recapture recover my life um so i get those guys and then i get men between 33 and 37 uh these are mostly business entrepreneurs some are veterans some are not but they're looking at how can i expand and build my business um and do more and then the other group is men from 19 to 26 they're either veterans or they want to go in the military and they want to go into special forces special operations and i have a i have a unique program just for those guys to get them get them ready for to include a training program in fact i just signed a guy up last night he's actually uh he's actually a police officer swat and uh he went to try out for dea selection and he contacted me so i'm gonna kind of put him in that 1926 year old category of training preparing for that um so that yeah i do that i do that quite often um i have a pretty full load i can only take so many people at a time because the program is normally eight weeks long it's uh two hours two plus hours a week on a zoom call like this it's recordable um and it's it's um it's it's goes in stages but basically what i teach people really what i teach people is how to think uh not what to think i teach you how to think and uh that's the key to this thing i mentioned in physics earlier success is based on physics it is and uh i teach the science behind success yeah um it's amazing how it works but i do coach i've coached millionaires um i've coached people from all walks of life i mean you name it photographers police officers soldiers you name it i've coached them coaches i've coached international coaches can jack sign up to be coached on how to hook up with a 31 year old starlet put me in the game coach put me in the game it's really easy start with shaving the head and doing it get the mustache all right i'll work on it i'll work on it there's got to go yeah uh guys go and uh go check out dale's book american badass that's out today um please check out our patreon down the description if you haven't already you get access to these episodes ad free and some bonus episodes and [ __ ] like that it's cool uh next week we're going to have jim morris on the show he served in special forces in vietnam he is the author of war story uh the devil's secret name and his latest book is called the dreaming circus uh i'm really excited to talk to him he's a phenomenal dude um so we will be back next friday with jim morris uh dale again thank you we love you man really appreciate it man and uh thanks for having me we'll see everyone next friday all right

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Published: Sat Jun 25 2022