Is there a supernatural
dimension? a world
beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages
from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets
of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years
researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of
It's Supernatural. [Applause] Sid: Welcome. Welcome to my world where it's
naturally supernatural. My guest was hopelessly in debt. He had a young family. He was attacked in his health. Things were so desperate he was
afraid to go outside of his house because people he owned
money, they would approach him. God downloaded to him the
mysteries of money. Since that point, he got out of
debt. Since that point, he's taught
these mysteries to hundreds of thousands of people that have
done the same thing. And by the way, I don't know if
I mentioned, he's a millionaire. [Applause] Sid: So Gary, you're doing
everything that you know right. You're going to church. Gary: Yes. Sid: You're a believer
in God. You're tithing. Gary: Yes. Sid: How did you get so in debt
that you're, really, between the two of us, were you really
afraid to walk outside, really and truly? Gary: Sid, I was in debt because
I signed the debt papers, first off. I did it. But the reason I signed the debt
papers wasn't trying to destroy my life. I had needs that
needed to be met. And so those
began to mount. You know, you always think
tomorrow will be better and then they weren't better and you find
yourself buried. And then I started having panic
attacks. I was on anti-depressants. And so, yeah, I was, I lived in
a realm of fear. Sid: Speaking of fear, it really
hit the zenith, so to speak. Gary: Yes. Sid: When a lawyer called and
what did he say and what did you do? Gary: Well we had calls from
everyone, every day, you know, we owed... Sid: That's an awful way to
live. Gary: It's torment.
It's torment. We owed credit cards. We had probably a dozen, almost
a dozen cards that had been canceled, three finance company
loans at 28 percent. We owed the IRS
tens of thousands, our parents
tens of thousands. We owed everything we had and
everything was falling apart. We were in survival mode. And so it got to the place that
we had exhausted every place to find money. You know, no one would loan us
any more. My parents, you know, we tapped
everything out. And so this attorney calls,
which wasn't unusual. But for this particular day he
was going to file a lawsuit. And that day I realized with a
kind of sudden realization I'm done. There's nothing left. I had nowhere to turn. Now I was a Christian. But so I ran upstairs to my
bedroom, we had a little country house that we lived in. You know, everything was really
falling apart. And I began to cry out to the
Lord, and he spoke to me very quickly, and he said,
Philippians 4:19, "My God shall supply of your need according to
our riches," you know, the riches we have in Christ Jesus. And I said, "Lord, I
know that scripture, but I don't have that.
I don't have that rich. I'm done. My needs aren't being met." And
he told me, he said, "It's because you've
never allowed me to teach you how my Kingdom operates."
And that really struck me kind of strange because
I was in church. I was going to Heaven. I loved God. I had no idea what he meant by
what do you mean, how my Kingdom operates. I thought I was working them. Sid: Even your tithing, if you
don't know how the Kingdom operates you can tithe in a
religious fashion and it won't even work in your life, and
people don't understand that. Gary: That's right. I ran downstairs and grabbed my
wife's hand. I repented to her
as her husband. I said, "I'm sorry we're
in this mess. It's my fault." I said, "But the
Lord spoke to me and said that the answer, the reason is
because I didn't understand how his Kingdom operates." We didn't
know what that meant, but we held hands right there and said,
"Lord, teach us what you mean by your Kingdom. What does that mean?" And so we
prayed right there and then began to teach us. Sid: And you know what? This is how the devil operates. Just before you're about ready
to have a breakthrough, literally all hell comes against
you. Your van burns. Gary: Yes. All the vehicles we had were
really, really old. We were just glad they started. We were just glad they started. Anyway, I used to drive this old
van and it began to really smoke a lot of white smoke, you know,
just really bad. And so I learned I'm not going
to park this in front of my client's house and ask him to
invest half a million dollars or something, you know. So I would park it around the
corner. And so this one particular day,
this is only the day after I had this phone call from the
attorney asked I asked the Lord to show me how the Kingdom
operates, I went to this client's house and I parked
around the corner. And so after the call he
followed me to the van. He was just wanting to be kind
and he came up to the van. And I kind of acted like I was
fumbling around the van hoping he'd say goodbye and walk away. But he kind of stood there with
his arms crossed watching me like,
okay, to leave. I knew I was stuck. So I turned the van on. Of course, white smoke went
everywhere. And he goes, "Shut
it off! Shut it off!" You know, and he
said, "I'm a mechanic." He said, "Let me check it up." So he
opened the hood. He said, "You busted
your head gasket. Drive it home
and park it, and get it fixed." Well that was easy
for him to say. I had zero money. The attorney just called. We owed, 13, $1400. He had to have it in three days. We had nothing, but we still
owed on the van. And on the way home
I was thinking, Lord, I don't know
what to do about this van. I can't sell it broken. I can't buy a new van. I don't know what to do. I said, I just kind of said out
loud, "You know, it would be better if this thing
just burned up. Let the insurance company
pay it off." I'm serious. That's what I said out loud. Well about two minutes later, I
noticed a bubble begin to form on the front hood. And I was driving to my office
and by the time I got to my office this bubble had become
about yea high and all of a sudden it just burst into flames
and there were flames six foot off that hood, and I was totally
in shock. And the insurance company
totaled it. They gave me a check and I had
enough money to overnight that lawyer the money. I paid some bills until I
realized, great, fantastic deliverance,
but now I have no car. So. Sid: Using the mysteries of
money that God revealed to you, how did it take you personally
to get it? Gary: God began to teach us how
his Kingdom operated. He began to give us
business ideas. We began to start businesses
and we began to prosper. It was like
a light switch. This is the key. Like a light switch, it was
amazing. You come out of that
dysfunction, that kind of emotional trauma every day and
then you begin to prosper. I cannot tell you. It's like taking a drink of
water on a hot day. It was absolutely fabulous. Going to pay cash for your cars,
building your dream home, paying cash for everything, starting
these businesses, it took two and half years to
pay everything off. Sid: You know, by the way, when
he says everything, he's not just talking his bills. I don't know if you caught that
or not. Gary: Yes. Sid: He pays cash for his home,
cash for his car. I mean, the mysteries of money
are so amazing. When we come back God downloaded
some very, very, this is why he has such a passion to teach you. I want him to explain some of
these mysteries when we come back. We'll be right back to It's
Supernatural. We now return to It's
Supernatural. [Applause] Sid: You know Gary, during the
commercial break, you told me how
important money is. Sickness, it's very important to
get on top of that. Gary: Yes. Sid: But money affects everyone,
everything. I even read that's the number
one cause of divorces. Gary: Yes. Yes. You know, you can talk about
issues and of course we're not downplaying any of those issues,
but the point is money affects everyone. And if you're in debt or you're
in lack, and you're in this financial stranglehold it's, it
actually sucks the life out of you, sucks all the vision, all
the hope, and it aims everything in just survival. And it's amazing how you begin
to think in survival mode how you just try to make it through
one more week until Friday night, you know. I tell people God really wants
you to not like Friday night and love Monday morning because
you're so passionate about what you're doing in life. You're not in survival mode just
making a living. You're like, I got to stop. It's Friday night? I want to get back to Monday
morning again. Sid: You even told me that the
stress and worry of over money causes people to get sick. Gary: Absolutely. I think stress, I think the
study showed that stress does cause a large majority of the
illnesses in our body. Sid: Okay. Would you say that
lack of money is a curse? Gary: Well I would agree
it is, but I didn't that. The Bible did. Back in Genesis,
Chapter 3, of course, Adam and Eve
had no concerns. All their provision was there. Sid: What a life. Gary: What a life. They were, man was made at the
end of the sixth day designed to live in the seventh
day, the day of rest. Now God wasn't tired when it
says that God rested. He was finished. Everything was complete. And so they didn't
have to worry. But Adam
gave it all away. He rebelled against God. He lost that place of authority
and dominion he had over the earth realm and God approached
in Genesis, Chapter 3, Verse 17, and said, "Now by your own
painful toil and sweat you'll have to eat of the earth." I
call that the earth curse and that's where
everyone is grown up. That's why "Everyone Wants to be
a Millionaire" is so popular, that's why the
lottery is so popular. Everyone is tired of
the wait of finding provision. Jesus said, "If the unbeliever
runs painful toil and sweat after the things of life" and
that's, everyone filters their direction by that. There's a good job paying in
California, I'll move. There's a better
paying job over here. I'll do that. And they miss their identity. See, Adam had to
lose his identity. He was to take
care of God's stuff. He was created for a purpose and
now he lost his purpose, and his purpose was survival and trying
to find provision. And everyone has done that. Everyone is filtering every
decision in this earth cursed system through survival either
running after money or if they have it, hoarding it because the
only escape out of this rat race is to have more than enough. Sid: Now you say that we need to
change. Kingdoms change laws. What do you mean? Gary: Take a look at Luke,
Chapter 5 with Peter, James and John, Jesus walking on the shore
comes there and they've been fishing all night. Jesus wants to borrow Peter's
boat and goes out, does borrow the boat,
comes back in. Jesus says, "Go
fish. GO fishing. Cast your net out." And Peter
said, "Master, we fished all night and got nothing, the earth
cursed system. We've labored but nothing is
there." And then they didn't catch so many fish. The net is about broke and both
boats, their, Peter's and his partner's James' and John's
boats both about sank. What's the difference? I began a spiritual
scientist, I say. I say okay, why
did that happen? Well you follow the story, when
the boat was given to Jesus to use in ministry, the boat
changed legal jurisdiction from the affairs of men, the dominion
of men in the earth realm under the Kingdom of God's
jurisdiction. At that point, Jesus had a
legality. Heaven had a legality in the
earth realm where Heaven downloaded to Jesus where the
fish were at. And Jesus said the fish are over
there in the deep water. You and I can catch fish if
Jesus told us where they were. And so the difference in my
life, and God began to give me business ideas. He gave me a dream in the night
to start a business. He began to show me where the
fish were. He began to show me how to
harvest. You know, the earth realm is
such a poverty-driven system. It's a lack-driven system to
survive that peace, most people are looking for money and they
have it all backwards. Money, God doesn't have any
money. Okay. All money is created in the
earth realm by commerce, buying and selling. The Lord told me one time, "My
church has learned to give but not have a harvest." All right. So we have to know how the
system works. In other words, since God has no
money when you give, as we said in the illustration, Luke,
Chapter 5, when we sow, our money does change governments,
gives God jurisdiction to create opportunities. I always say don't
look for money. God helps us create
or capture opportunities to create wealth. So what happens, people not
taught that will sow and they're waiting what I call mailbox
mentality, waiting for it just to show up. They think someone is going to
walk down the street and say, here's a million dollars and of
course it doesn't happen that way. You can have a million dollar
idea is how it happens. Sid: All right. Tell me about the cheesecake. Gary: You're talking about
Chris. So he heard in our conference
how God will download ideas, concepts, direction and he had
nothing, no ideas, no money. But he said, "I make a really
good cheesecake." He said, "You know, I really make a
healthy good cheesecake. I wonder if I can sell that. Sid: He can sell it to me. I'm looking for good cheesecake. Gary: Well this was the first
night of the conference. So he went home and made this
cheesecake. He began to pray about what I
was saying and he thought, I'm going to take this cheesecake
down to the local health food store and see if they like it. So he took it down there the
next day. It just so happened the CEO of
the entire health food chain was there that day and tasted the
cheesecake, and said it's the best cheesecake he ever had. And so Chris comes to my meeting
that night and comes up for prayer, and says, "I got this
opportunity," and he told me what happened, you know. "Thank you. I want to pray about this." And
so he comes back the next day all excited because the company
had decided to actually give him a contract to bake cheesecakes. And then that Friday night of
the conference, the CEO, who was visiting from California, came
to our meeting, got born again, filled with the spirit because
he was so impressed with what he heard Chris talk about. Sid: You know what I have found
out that Gary has a gift and when he teaches according to
this gift it's not just for money. These laws work for everything. Gary: Absolutely... Sid: When we come back I want
him to tell us about the secret weapon.
Don't go away. [Applause] We'll be right back to
It's Supernatural. We now return to It's
Supernatural. [Applause] Sid: So have you ever said to
God, God, I'm so practical, just tell me what you want
me to do and I'll do it. Have you ever said that? You know, have you
ever said, God, I just don't
hear your voice. I feel so sorry for myself. No, you never say it that way,
but that's what you're really saying. That's the way most of us feel. Gary: Yes. Before I learned,
that's how I would feel. But hearing God's
voice is the key. The Bible says that, "The
Kingdom of God does not come by observation, but it is in us,"
Luke, Chapter 17, Verse 20. We already have the Kingdom. We already have every answer we
need, the capacity to hear already in us. First Corinthians says that we
have the mind of Christ, and so that's, we have to tap into
that. And like the story we told about
Luke, Chapter 5, the fishermen, Jesus told them where
the fish were. Now all we need
is to be able to hear. And of course, when Peter had
taxes to pay, Matthew 17, Jesus said, "Go catch a fish and
you'll find a gold coin." And so. Sid: But you know, if someone
just had that thought, they would say, that's ridiculous,
I've just been fishing all night, I'm not going to do that. Gary: Yes. Yes. Sid: That's what people do, you
explained to me. We get these God thoughts and we
flick them off. I don't hear from
God. Get off that thought. Gary: Yes. Well a lot of thoughts we hear
are for a reason. I always say your answer is
hidden from you for you. We read in First Corinthians,
Second Chapter, speaking of Jesus being born, that if Satan
would have known about the plan of God he would not have
crucified Jesus. So Satan will always, if he can
pick up on the plan of God, he will change his tactics. So God uses strange and
sometimes unusual directions to us so that Satan does not know
what the heck is going on. And we actually go capture
wealth and capture opportunities before he actually can pick up
on it and interfere with it. Sid: We talked about a secret
weapon that's mysterious. Gary: Yes. Sid: What's the secret? Gary: First Corinthians, 12:13
and 14, 13 says, "Thou I love God," the love chapter, but it
starts, "Though I speak with the tongues of men and angels." And
First Corinthians 14:2 says, "A man who prays in the Spirit,
who prays in tongues utters mysteries out of his own spirit,
and he actually edifies himself." The word "edify" means
teach or instruct. So as we pray in the Spirit, God
is downloading to our spirit mysteries that bring the
capacity for us to pick up on revelation of direction of
things we have need of, of the instructions. Just like as if Jesus were
sitting there with you, he would say there's the fish,
go catch them. Sid: Stop flicking off God's
ideas. That's the message. Gary: Yes. Sid: So we have a young man in
our mailroom and he got so excited, he's working for us,
and he said, "You're having Gary Keesee. I listened to his teaching and I
had literally a miracle happen." Ian, you're sitting in the back. Would you stand up for a moment. He, newly married. They had their first child. They want a home. All he has is a couple thousand
dollars. So he reads the teaching. There's the most
phenomenal story. And rather than use the 2000 for
the house, which they probably could get the house they wanted
anyway, rather than use that he found out about a woman that had
a severe need. And guess what he did? He planted his 2000, which is
all he had, all he had into that family. So what happens? Make a long story short, a
relative says, I'm going to give you $15,000, out of the blue,
and he gets the house of his dreams because he applied, he
didn't just give to get. He gave where his
heart showed him a, really a bigger
need than he had. Gary: Yes. Sid: And that made the
difference. But that was following, and
that's the amazing thing. It was following after he
listened to Gary's teaching. Gary: Right. Sid: When you apply God's laws
in the Spirit, the supernatural happens and although it may take
a few years using supernatural principles to get out of debt,
do you know that God is speeding everything up. This is your moment right now. Don't miss it. We're in a living in a new time,
a new period. Heaven is coming so close to
Earth. Don't give up. You're at the finish line. Pray what God is showing you
right now. Gary: Father, in the name of
Jesus, I break the spirit of anxiousness over
the fear of lack. I break the spirit of
poverty in Jesus' name. Father, your Kingdom is a
kingdom of wealth and you give us the grace to prosper in the
name of Jesus. Amen. [Applause] Sid: Next week on It's
Supernatural. My guest went to Heaven every
day for three years and was taught mysteries on how to
awaken your spiritual senses, and he wants to pray because God
told him he had this gift for your supernatural
senses to be awoken. Do you want that?
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