From Boys To Men Podcast | EP 4 Ft Darkest man and Johnny Carey

like presenters like for example Jamie Carroll he's not always like hey you know what you're saying Welcome to our Sky Sports yeah and you know them yeah he's doing really well just got the drive in it coutinho you know they just got rid of them yeah [Music] welcome back for another episode of from Boys to Men now this one's different I've got two of my good mates with me to my left I've got darkest man that's all right we've got Johnny Carey how you guys doing today it's an honor to be here really yes yes Ramadan right now so we're fasting yes we are hey get me Ramadan Kareem to all my brothers and sisters fasting right now um but yeah today I wanted to bring you guys in here because um you know this is all about conversations but I want to start with you Johnny you've got a very different background to me and darkest obviously we're both Muslim and stuff what was your background like and how did that shape you growing up as well 30 years and I feel like yeah my mom and dad have always especially my mum my mum's always put me first life like uh every life decision she's made so brought first couple years of my life not an ill with my family's from Labrador my side has dad's side as soon as my mum had me and my brother I was like No moving out there without time that much better area I wouldn't say we was wealthy like we weren't wealthy but we weren't poor yeah so I mean like we was all right you know I mean we didn't struggle so yeah I'd say my upbringing I had a good childhood man I can't can't afford my mum my dad's old school and my dad's like never seen him cry you can't show on motion would you say that your relationship with your mum's more more like lovey and that's probably yeah probably the same one yeah I can walk into the kitchen hug mum yeah and is that something you've ever wanted to work on because I had that as well like me and my pops like him saying that he loves me yeah it's weird couldn't say it he wanted to say and I know he loves me because he does things for me I think they show love in different ways like what were the ways that your dad showed love to you I know [ __ ] stuffing insulting me yeah I mean bringing me up seeing where I am because I know he cares he had his own way of telling him yeah I love it yeah yes because in house like now I'm a father now yeah I can only be emotional to my son but I know at some time it's gonna change when he comes to a grown man yeah because like that's that's something that like I feel like I hear that a lot about people when they say that it shouldn't be that yeah my dad didn't say he loved me but you know he does though you drinking your kid has your has your son seen any bit of your personality I said because he sees a completely different side too he doesn't see you angry I don't he's a child but not like actually pissed off no um that's a good question actually as far as I think he's character so like certain things he'll do he copies me in it so like when I'm praying for example he was just sick he would just he doesn't know yeah and then um like when I laugh he laughs as well right so we have like he I think it genetically I don't know if he's true but genetically I feel like there's just something that aligns you with your almost like your father yeah even now as my dad run over my head even now like my sister says to me you move like Dad so there's certain things that I do like the mannerism is more proper unquish but that's just because I've always looked at my dad as the the Saving Grace I guess yeah myself in it but this brings me to your question for you darkest like you come from a Somali background and they're very much so it's very family orientated very much so the backbone is Islam how was that for you growing up pretty much the same but I'd say I'd had a I had a different upbringing to most Somali households because I'm I'm an early child and when I usually when I tell that to especially somalis when I told them I'm An Early Child they're like just how can you you're not funny because we come like yeah yeah then we come in packs you get me so like in terms of Islam being the backbone of like our whole culture that's still that's still the case from in like in my household my mom tried to implement like prayer and obviously helping out my family and all of this stuff even though I had no one in the house it was just me and my mum dad was there I have a good relationship with my dad I can handle I can say that till today but um he went there for majority I think he was there for I would live with my dad for like three years I lived with my dad for three years and then after that it was just like a summer holiday I'll go there see him come back it would just be whenever whenever like we have free time but then but we're constantly being communication like I'm gonna I have a good relationship with my pups but uh my mom my mom's been here the day I came out till number yeah yeah so I think it's just I didn't have any siblings I didn't um it was just me and my mum so I think that's a big thing already that's different from a lot of Somali households so it's even weird that I turned out the way I did like to be said too late you can still sense a bit of only child in me yeah you get it like I know you are oh we was in Australia yeah darkers will come and ask you stuff he already knows he goes should I do this like for example like the clothes like he'll be like oh can I show this to this yeah always in the opinion yeah it's me asking myself usually yeah so growing up here like we both have siblings so I have a sister yeah and you've got brothers and sisters yeah right yeah you never had someone did you feel like alienated in comparison to like your friends in school or cousins or stuff was you good definitely um and uh I had moments it wasn't like a complete long period of time where I just felt like oh my god I'm an early childhood but there was moments where it would kick in like we're like um like when I spent when I have a really good deal with my friends and I come home and then there's no one yeah yeah did you get me there's no one here no I just have to go back on my phone message them again like there's no one to talk there's no one else to talk to Cheers marble could you put it on a different but I can't see myself not living with whenever we go away whenever we go somewhere like even though he's charging most of the time he's dead he's still one of my best mates you know what I mean yeah so it's different removal because like I can't imagine saying but I can't say the same thing as you like oh I can't imagine coming back to someone like I would want someone there so it's just weird though but like thank God that's why I'm always say that's why I always say like thank God I have chunks like um from the day I was born opportunity the day I was born he was there mad yeah literally yeah I was born he was there so from then until now the fact that I've been able to maintain like a stool like he we haven't got a message from each other he's he's a year and six months older than me yeah yeah he said yeah so roughly around yeah in the same bracket almost so from like we haven't gone any any distance from each other or any like oh I don't chat to him no more or nothing like that he's generally my brother like I think he's the reason why I don't go fully only child yeah yeah Jeremy I think I'd be 10 times more anxious or like I mean whatever I think for me I've always wanted that I had a um obviously system and stuff here but where I'm a boy and I was a boy's boy you just want a brother and everyone everyone's got a cousin and I never really had none of that because my family were the first of my my family to come to this country so I never had no like direct cousins until everyone else started coming over and stuff but as I got older I started to appreciate my sister more as like my best friend because yeah sick you know like it's women are very very quick to learn things whoever it takes a maturity they're very much more mature so by the age of 16 my sister was with it and she was like someone who I could confine in and I think having her as someone who is like now obviously she works with me and she's part of the team and stuff yeah it's only her I would have picked because you know me and you know me Beyond everything I feel like our family members yeah cut the crap they know yeah they know the real real us as well along with our parents in the coming out boxes yeah yeah all of that stuff like yeah yeah like that's that's the realness like [ __ ] she tells me the honest truth yeah she'll be like actually 30 times me in the morning she goes I can tell your brother even my mom does that she loved me she's like I can tell your real sticks and for me that is The Humbling beautiful side of it as well like family is so important I think even if you haven't had um you know any siblings at least you have cousins you have people that are like yeah Brothers anyway um going back to like you know the parent stuff yeah what was your relationship like with your parents like what when you was growing up I'll start with you darkest when I was growing up I'm not gonna lie when I was a young guy and I was a bit like way more naive um I didn't quite understand my mom even though it wasn't always bad like I loved we had we had a very good relationship growing up obviously it's just a normal son mom relationship that you'd have but um with me it was I found her like hard to understand Jeremy because I'm always like she don't understand what I'm going through if she can only see the way she like um how I see things you can only see things how I see things then everything will be 10 times easier but that wasn't the case I'm talking like I'm the experience with him you know when I was a kid I felt like I knew everything because I'm the one going out to school I felt like I was growing up more than her so I knew more than that wasn't the case I queso yeah she got me and then she'd always be on my case about with certain things and I'm just like you grew up and I'm like oh you grew up in a different time you don't understand but can I be honest with you 99.9 of the time she was right well that's yeah that's factual she was always right yeah and what confused me because I never used to listen I was a hard-headed kid so I never used to listen and I used to be in my room like why did she always tell me to do this just be quiet be quiet stop saying it stop saying and stop saying it but then the only solution to her stop saying it is just do what she's telling you to do and literally this is going over a course of seven years and I just hasn't kicked in for me so growing up I'm just like oh my mom don't get a car wait to move on my mom don't get it my mom don't get it my mom don't get it no I don't get it I don't get it so she's being young and naive doing it like you don't want to listen to your mom and dad yeah that's what I mean I mean that's just like how every kid is but then I think it's just a part of growing up and I'm just what I'm saying to you like the fact that she's still here and they're still here with me like on my case with different things now obviously now I'm grown I don't react the same way I don't have the same feeling I used to have when I was back then now a small conversation now it's more conversation now now I'll talk to her blocking why is this wrong whereas before yeah yeah yeah all right for no reason but now it's just yeah now I think I've gotten used to my mum I've gotten used to what kind of person she is I've gotten used to um what kind of advice you would give me I already know what my mom would say whenever before I even ask her a question like even when I'm buying something mom do you like this I already know what she's gonna say I don't it's too bright or it's too loud I just know her in it so yeah I think just as the years went by I just we um I started to understand her a bit more and yeah it's just made our relationship Center as well with my dad my dad our arena is I've got a lot in my dad in me like for example my dad's impatient my dad's a patient I'm very impatient but then in terms of the relationship I have with my dad it's really really good like I can literally put my 100% like I can call my dad right now say I love you he'll say I love you back and it's real you get me like it's like I'm still in contact with him that's that that's a blessing bro yeah so my mom and dad went together my mom and dad are together but this is why also my mom's a fantastic woman because she'd always be like if I'm not in contact with my dad even though they're not together she gets on to me Jeremy she gets on to me today do you check on it do you do this I mean yeah they're not even together bro they're not even together but and but she's all if I don't if I don't if I'm not in contact with him she gets on to me she'll like help him help him help him do this call him check up on him all of this even though I do that anyways but yeah like it just shows me what kind of person she is yeah I mean because she was like at the end of the day forget what forget our situation that's still your dad yes that's still your pops and I want you you have a great relationship it's got nothing to do it's all you know so yeah I'm alhamdulillah is blessed with really good parents yeah I think that's the same for me my parents just like Johnny been together still together to this day yeah and I think in the beginning my mom was like I was my first uh I was the first born for both of my mum and my dad so they treated me like that I was the king um and I kind of felt I've always felt loved I've never ever I don't know the feeling of not feeling loved by your parents and I think for me that's what allowed me to um I think get confidence that's why I have so much confidence because I felt what real love is but I think um when you grow up and you have opposing views just like yourself and you think you know it all I had a lot of conversations with my pops but my dad would say listen like it'll come a time in your life or you listen and it might be too late I might not be here anymore but you'll say wow my dad was right and I used to think who do you think you are you're not a guru you've not studied in in Harvard for you to have all this information but there's nothing that you can teach in terms of life lessons and I think he has struggle I don't say struggled but he struggled to get to this country to provide for his family and do everything so the lessons that he's learned I had never even gone through yet now that upon reflection as a father as someone who's in their 30s now I can only imagine and I take my hat off to him because he got to this country at the age of 25 and was able to have kids build a um a family and also have like you know I never struggled I had Sky I had yeah yeah and anytime I say I heard Skype people are like bro you had Skye who I had a sky and I had sky blue you know what I'm trying to say so the stuff that I wanted my dad would do anything to get um for his kids and I think for me that that is why our relationship right now is so strong because it was it wasn't the best during my like teenage years and towards my early 20s and stuff because I was just involved in other things and it was so against number one My Religion but also what my parents had had some um you know sacrificing me but my mum would always be the one that gelled us together because she could see the two boys or men that she loves getting distant and then she bought us back together like she was the one that we both loved she was the one that allowed us to realize that you know I'm trying to say and I think that's why I I just I can't live without them to you anymore because it's like imagine me not having you I don't know how I would be yeah you know I'm gonna say so the four of us my parents I would be a mess honestly and I credit to people who have lost parents and have still been able to crack on because it is difficult not having a backbone so for me having them too was was incredible yeah how about you John you you obviously you spoke about before about your mom and and your dad but them still being together do you reckon that's me 100 I want a different yeah like my mom and dad have never even allowed like well so I've seen they've never let me see it but I've never even seen them have like a proper route so I mean like so yeah the thought of them not being together is just alien to me you know I mean that's that's all I've ever known like they've never been a partner never even start off separated on a short-term basis so I've had a good good uh upbringing especially hats off to my mum my mum's like like you said like the jail that brings it together I mean my dad don't even run my birthdays oh wow I mean but like I don't care yeah yeah I mean because that's just him yeah he's like all of his kids are so if I don't have my mum like that is implementing the stuff in oh yeah let's my dad would never go she was on holiday this year nobody just would not think to do it don't care so I mean whereas my mum is the one that kind of brings the family together and yeah like should I find though yeah because there's certain things about my dad which I haven't agreed with but I then look at the bigger picture how he was raised yeah the love that he probably wasn't shown because he has my dad had like 10 15 siblings so it's very difficult for someone to show one person love yeah do you reckon that's probably why I don't that's why I'm saying I don't judge my dad I know he's the way he is because of how he was raised he used to tell me when he was about 11. he was poor poor poor he used to go around uh Nick in shoes and burning them to keep the fire warm wow so like his his things and my granddad was proper street that proper like old school like London like you know what I mean yeah um so yeah I know why he struggles to show love and he is the way he is but I know he loves me like I laugh about it in it yeah because got a wicked sense of humor that's the funny excuse element you know I mean I find it funny it sounds depressing but I find it funny but last year not two years ago he was yeah he got cancer in it bowel cancer he's sweet no no obviously that was a dark time for me and my family and that and I just rang her up and he's in hospital and obviously he's all doped up on morphine and that he's better or one feeling better down and I thought [ __ ] it I'm gonna say to him I love him on the phone I laugh about it now after I've just said to him I know you're going to be sweet but I think in the worst with every bail I said I love you Dad he went yeah see you later son he couldn't say it back he said she I think he's on his death and he can't tell me he loves me I'm like oh yes sweet but he's a hard man you don't know how to do it that was all weird and awkward you don't even have to like oh hug me or nothing yeah because his old man for him was so like yeah just ask him do you love me do you love me of course I do but he just can't say I love him but it's just how he's been raised and he can't say I love you to my sisters it's not just a man or man thing he just weird at showing emotion the only person he's soft to is my mum behind closed doors that sometimes are him an individual Mustang and he told his mommy a little cute voice everyone else oh there's no straight face cold can't we've all come from again from different backgrounds but kind of similar in the same thing like we've both seen struggle in order to get to where we are right now what was the reasons why you said you was going to pursue a career which you've pursued and what was your first like when you said okay cool I'm gonna stop doing what I'm gonna do and actually I haven't even asked what you guys was doing beforehand so what was you doing before you you got to this place um I was in uni okay I was studying business in accounting okay yeah yeah did you finish it no no I didn't fortunately I didn't no I didn't you know you know I realized about myself I'm not an exam kind of guy I don't like the idea of revising a whole year yeah that one piece of paper determines how hard you worked yeah because I could be bugging that day I could I could be ill I could be just panicking that I like do you get me I just don't like examples so I just thought yeah maybe you need I'm more of a coursework guy okay yeah yeah but it's not really you can't really pick and choose anything yeah that's what I did I did beat the lower three but it's equivalent to three yeah so I went College I done film studies and then I've done English English Lang and media but then when exams are coming around my mom had accidentally booked a family holiday oh Lanzarote all my sisters my nephews and nieces again same day as a two exams I thought [ __ ] I ain't doing exams I can't I'm going on today so I failed first year and then I just thought oh [ __ ] you I'll do I didn't even want to go college but I was doing it for my mum and it so I've done media level three B Tech and then finished that was gonna go uni I loved like making little short films when I was younger on my iPad I got all that things I made little army films well I remember I made a whole remake of kid Atwood no version yeah [ __ ] so I've always been to like making movies and that and then when I was finished College I said to my mom look I would never think that you you um I loved it because even when I found out like you know what matters when I first saw Johnny on on YouTube yeah you know I thought he was the um Matty cash because that's the first time I saw you and then I watched the videos I was like walking a bit too wrecky to be a football player but then obviously like to now know that you've actually did um media and film and stuff it surprises me because I would never know that I used to force my mates like it'd be two week holidays Easter and I used to force my mates to jump into the film they'd be like I don't want to do it rather than like please but please I need someone to act in this yeah I mean there was [ __ ] in it it was [ __ ] well I I had it all in my head directed in that so then after after college um I said my mom wanted to go uni and I said to my mom look let me give this huge iLab 2K Subs on YouTube I was working at Heathrow part time just letting the cars open I think it was car giant or Europe or something like that um and I was like to mum look can you I just want to try this YouTube thing for a year let me Smash out for a year if it don't work out I'll go university in it but then the year happened I gained like 50k Subs started on a bit of money from it I was like [ __ ] it let's just do this and there we are yeah there we are it's Johnny Carey there's always that risk here with YouTube and parents yeah because the conventional way to do stuff is like oh go University be a lawyer be a doctor be whatever it is yeah and then to tell your mom I'm actually going to go and be a YouTuber that's the funniest thing you know this is how I touched my daddy's my dad tells his mates I do eBay he says I'm an ebayer he thinks I'll do eBay what even is that uh eBay on eBay no no that's incredible this was funny about it you just got to take on the channel remember before you got eBay in front of me he said oh do this thing for me I'm not I don't I don't even use eBay myself like that's so funny I remember I told my dad I think I've said this before but um I was working at quick up which was like a tech company yeah and that's the first time I started contributing like legit money into my into my household so like contributing to the rent and stuff yeah so I did that for like eight months and I finally was like I had a bit of money in it not crazy money but I had money to like look after myself pay bills all of that told my dad that I am well he was in Sierra Leone actually so I told my mum I've quit my job and I'm gonna pursue YouTube we're not even YouTube I said I'm gonna do I said Instagram because at the time that's what I was using I was using Instagram and Snapchat and it was the most disappointing ever he was just like you've just finally started contributing to the house and now you want to live this year you can't use because I used to start and stop so many things because if you keep doing it but you know what I'm not gonna say I'm Gonna Leave You it's only when like things start to click yeah that's what I like okay and I don't blame them because yeah cool they're from a different generation back in the day that's not a solid future the man's come to this country worked all kinds of jobs to provide for his family for his son to say he wants to do YouTube or Instagram come on I understand where he's coming from 100 but like it was it's beautiful to see yeah you know already it's beautiful to see how they start to realize because now my dad's on Tick Tock like my dad has a ticket my dad's got an Instagram account and like he's now become social media Savvy now we're not Savvy but start to use social media now because that's the generation that we're in so when he sees me on on social media or he'll go and watch like I don't know Saturday social on Saturday in the morning when he's woken up and he sees his son it's very even him he's like I'm just don't know how this has happened because it's like it's come from you know your your kid being very like I don't know I'm gonna do this he's gonna do this maybe you never know maybe you never know then actually going for it like did you see your family like start to look at you differently and how was um how was that if they didn't or if they did um I think my mum and dad are very proud of me bad part my mom tells me all the time she's a bad part of me um I feel like my dad is obviously as well I just want to clear up my dad is a good dad they're like carving him off in it but like that's just how he is in it like it's just like that but uh he just don't really have an interest as long as I'm doing all right I know any money then I mean that's good enough for him because obviously that one of our family members haven't always gone down the rap half in it and obviously where I've come from at Ladbroke Grove ain't the best of areas so all my other family members that means I'm kind of like the first one to kind of do it legit yeah I highlight my mom my mom my mom was a bit difficult to convince at the beginning but then she finally got on board my dad my dad wasn't wasn't the same my dad wasn't having it um my dad actually orchestrated a meeting between him and bear with my uncles yeah about my uncles when I was there and then they're just basically giving me a list of reasons but as to why I shouldn't do it and it's all [ __ ] it's Haram how is Haram yeah like you know but I'm a kid at these times isn't it so they're just trying to scare me until because they don't they don't know what to say because um so I'm just like in my head I already know these guys don't like that they grew up in a different time they don't they don't understand you I said let me give it a go and let me let me find out from my own and that kind of thing yeah then eventually my pops was just like all right cool like just just sort of go ahead now he's like when you upload it no yeah on your case I don't even want to say this guy that's my boss but um this guy but uh yeah so he just he's just seeing it's just mad seeing the transition from how I remembered him when I first told him to like now where he's like supporting her but then as you said I understand like working so hard for your son to do YouTube and Instagram isn't just the easiest it's great it's not the easiest thing embrace it does not make no sense but yeah that's the beauty of like growth in it I feel like we've all had like moments in this career that we've had that have been like essential to our slack that keep us going like you know I'm trying to say what have been like your biggest like Milestones or the biggest achievements that you've had on a personal level or even things that you thought that you never would achieve or never have that you've got for me probably I've said this I've said this before um but I'll say it again because I'm just I love it but yeah retiring my mom probably that's that's one thing my mom was a big thing for me because um since the day I was born up until like I was making you know just a decent income I've just been seeing her work every day and I've been seeing how much she hates to go work she got me like even she just knew I just felt like what more of it is like what motivates her like to go every single day and it's probably her walking because you have to walk past my room to get to the front door but I'm thinking she probably walks past my room sees me conked and says I have to provide for this yeah yummy I have to provide for the shoot that's why I'm leaving this house and I can see it in her face she does not want to go over literally the days where she's ill my mom's got like my mom's my mom's diabetics got high blood pressure she like actually like what she shouldn't be going out every single day dude I'm saying I'd rather her just relax so I so initially I was a bit embarrassed like I was like 19 20 years old and I'm like I can't really contribute anything to the to the family like a lot of pressure at night yeah yeah I know but then at that age I'm thinking talking functioning human being yeah yeah I should be doing something shout out with a single Mama's man um is there a specific moment yeah it's probably when I hit 100K um probably when I hit 100 000 when I first touched six figures when I saw one zero zero comma zero zero zero I'm like all these idiots no it means Subs subscribe oh no that's freezing 100K subscribers you know 100K felt better than 500k yeah [Laughter] but yeah I think it was when I hit 100K and I'm just like because I remember how I remember everyone else's reaction not everyone else's but I think I remember chunks and Sharky specifically when they hit 100K um I think I think trunks cried I said no shark he cried when chunks hit 100 yeah yeah chunks was more like an ore did you get me where Sharky Sharky was just jumping up celebrating when he hit his so at that moment when I first saw that I was a kid this time I can't wait to 100K I can't wait and then I finally hit it and I was running up and down the road yeah so I think that that was a that was a big moment for me another big moment for me within my career it wasn't me specifically but it's what I thought it was when chunks hit a mill yeah you cried I remember oh yeah emotional because you've been there from the beginning I witnessed him I literally witnessed the work this guy putting I think I had a front row seat to a point where our the times where he would win wake me up at three o'clock in the morning I'd be like yo let's go film let's go downstairs quick film quickly but I have to do it quite quickly quietly like there'll be like so many of those moments where like I see how dedicated this guy is to like even when I'm not even like when he doesn't have certain people to jump in his videos he'll try and make something work even if it's by himself the record he'll film by himself and he'll I saw him work a normal uh cineworld to fund his YouTube for him to let me shout out to chunks man um definitely if you haven't seen an episode of chance go watch that now um for me I'll say uh for me it was being contributing to um finishing off my parents house in Sierra Leone um because I've seen them struggle in terms of working Heller shifts to go and get that done yeah and then you know like I wasn't aware of how much it meant to them until like I went to Sierra Leone and I witnessed what Sierra Leone is that stay at home and to be able to have like a massive crib that they're gonna make money off and on to the day they die and then my family will continue making money from the house like that for me was like a beautiful thing for me to be able to achieve it's not like they can't do it themselves I just I want that to be my burden because of how much they've done for me like I couldn't even exchange I could buy them 70 houses in a row it wouldn't even exchange for what they've done for me as parents so that was my main thing and then I think the second my career thing was working with man united like that is my that's called football was my my number one love as in like in terms [Laughter] but are you there as well you worked with NBA oh my God you know that's the best shooter in my life was the greatest shoot I've ever done and I think I ever will do well because you love I was with Sharky darkest I was with um Philly I was with adeola Rachel was there that that that whole concept of everything of having like like for me the best YouTubers in our culture and also NBA then we went to flipping Cleveland yes watched all NBA All-Star game it was just and it was cold as hell out there loved it but we didn't care like it was just a beautiful Vibe and a different cold I remember saying to chance and I know trunks I said to trunks you should have been on that shoot and him seeing us happier sometimes chance doesn't care but I know a little bit a little bit just a tiny bit yeah that was that was a great shoot but yeah as I'll say I'm working with man united my childhood Boyhood club to work with them I flew out with them I've I've got a season ticket due to them like that was like the inner child to me or the inner heart the young Harry is looking at yeah you you did it yeah you know what I'm trying to say yeah I'd say career-wise just off top my head I haven't thought too deeply about it but I'll probably just saying similar thoughts that hitting a million subscribers you know because when you like that's awesome no but both of us together if we added us together no but you're still you know what I mean yeah I mean yeah no because especially because when I started YouTube I was 16 yeah when you started no one rates it everyone's trying to violate it I remember before I went to um just places on football team was at 17 18 and I remember one time I must have had about 600 Subs got in the changing room they've already got their videos up like they're all repeating it off I don't really care I want to say it's bullied they're just trying to oh yeah yeah one of the main keys that was there kept trying to violate me I was about two years on maybe three years on he's seen me in the pub in my High Street all my days these skis are so [ __ ] my ass is a choke spreading it the soul [ __ ] my ass is a joke oh man I remember back in the day like oh let me buy you a drink but it's just that I feel like hitting the mill means more to me than just numbers on the screen because where people switch off on you because you're not doing well because you've actually gone through with something that everyone thinks not's gonna work and everything are it's YouTube what are you doing like and then actually hitting that million Target and then people actually respecting you for it yes banging you know what I mean and on a personal level what's been like your biggest achievement as of recent years like working with like like all you look like working with actual production companies and stuff it's actually made my confidence in myself so much better because I've always I get a lot of self-doubt I reflect on stuff a lot and I'll sit in bed at night and I'll think about all the things I'm doing wrong the things I'm doing right and I'll beat myself up by a lot but I remember the first shoot I've done with you yeah yeah and I was like that so nervous the whole time I was singing I'm not being funny No One's Gonna rate this why they booking me for the shoot why am I here like I have no confidence in myself when it comes to other stuff off off of YouTube I did where my YouTube the whole time was Skits it's like it's me my cameraman that's it I don't I wouldn't be with no one else I play every character I saw me so I don't know where it's like to whatever people or if I'm actually people are lacking like you yeah so when I'm actually getting booked for shoots and actually working with other people likewise it's kind of really [ __ ] helped me become more confident myself and actually rate myself in what I do so mad because I remember like I used to I have this thing here where I was like I only work with diesel like I was very selective of who I worked with and I remember we did a shoot with Johnny and I was just like his class he's actually class and it's like I remember you saying that you don't have confidence I was like brother do you know how good you are at your job there's a reason why your hair in it and it's like sometimes we all have self-doubt there's certain times I've done shoots and I'm like this was a horror show and then you then think like oh this is not going to work I think it's just comparing it's like like look at all you like I think you look hilarious and I start to think you're lying on that level you start thinking like oh remember we did a shoot one time and I was like bro Grill me like how diesel are like I think it was me you darkest and AJ no it was AJ it was one who was all on ah Faking It faking it yeah like I remember saying bro like this and look how well that's done because we've all just like got onto each other and that's what it is I like to replicate what it is like off camera onto camera I think you do that really really well we all do that really well appreciate that I feel like with with our job there's like a lot of um stereotypes that we have to deal with some some people look at you and based off what you put on camera and what do you put on camera even myself that we are a certain way yeah okay for example I remember like uh me and Philly did a shoot once yeah I'm not gonna say with who and a lady came in she was a stylish and the way she was talking my manager was there as well yeah but you know when you look at someone you go it's the original you just say yeah yeah we just processed that yeah she just she's like probably in her 50s 60s not from the ends she's just speaking best lantern man she's like do you know what I mean like yeah that's cool broth like you know trying to do all of that stuff and it was just like it was of deaf or racist what what makes you think that that's how we speak was she chatting like that to everyone or just you just uslo it's just me and Philly sitting in this in his dressing room and that's all she was saying but we had a job at hand to do and I thought it was more than cringe because she probably has daughters who probably watch us and if they found out that's what your mom was doing would hate it and at that time I thought to myself you know what yeah like this is this is what it's like being black being someone who's confident being in a position sometimes people might think like you're like this because you're a rapper you're only here because you rap I should probably even know what we do like there's been times where like I've gone to um you know like I might go to a supermarket or whatever and then somebody like kids will be taking pictures of me and the first thing people say to me is are you a rapper so much so yeah I did a red carpet for um I can't remember what film it was it was a big film I'm getting my pictures taken everyone's taking pictures one of the cameramen goes I'm a big fan of your work man I loved your last album do you think it was me I don't know if it was me but they probably thought yeah he looks like heady one or you know what he looks like this person yeah they don't know anything yeah just a Black Friday but I had like what should I probably thought yep storms here as well like so for me it was like that that for made me realize yeah yeah as much and I've never dropped out what do you say I laughed I I actually laughed but I remembered it and I said you know what when I went out I'm gonna post this on Instagram and I'm gonna let people know and I remember gigs was in the comments like welcome because this probably happened to him many times as well where they probably thought it was someone else and anything like that happened to you and and how is that of how's that made you feel like and how are you doing okay closest no one's ever thought I was someone else yeah I'm pretty distinctive everyone knows like if you know me you know me in it yeah yeah I don't think I look like anyone else anyways but I think the stereotypes I get it's not really so much to do with race it's just as you said at the beginning it's more what I put on camera and how people expect me to be there like exactly like that in real life yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so there was one time I was coming out of I think I was coming out of an event or something or like a restaurant all by myself I was go I was walking into a cab so I was walking to my cab no live cat listen the cab the distance to me in the cab right now is me to you so I'm literally about to open my door I hear to get those two guys over there and they were like yo darkest so I turned my head and I was like yo and they're like were you saying you're good I was like yeah I'm good but I'm just leaving I thought you were funny bro what how can I do that how can you be funny in that joke did you expect me to say in seven breaths like listen I brought I just met you yeah I'm saying to you and then that literally at that point I didn't even I just literally I laughed as I'm getting [ __ ] up but I'm John yeah what did you really expect from his interaction and um yeah the second one the second was literally almost the exact same thing but this time was two girls Jeremy so they were like oh hey docus I'm not how are you my love you all right yeah I thought you're funny I swear to God bro you think I'm exaggerating I'm on mom's life that's exactly how the conversation what they were like you're like you're bad quiet in real life I'm like I've had that about you someone else yeah I was in a gym the other day these uh two Mighty boys come to me and said oh I love your stuff over he's like yo he's like he's like where's dark he's been a fake on camera I was like what he was like we see him the other day he's better and he's social don't even really speak I was like I know you I don't know who you are my skis whatever like oh you got remember when he's on camera he's gotta put his person out there yeah I mean yeah he's back Quiet Man bear shy I was like no he's just auntie in the moment but he got your headphones in on that now people just assume you're gonna be exactly I have to be like that 20 years yeah no bro I'm just like I'm pretty it's a personality I think that's what people get confused like I get that a lot as well like oh in person like it's just like people think there's something wrong with me if I'm quiet like they expect me to be about 10 24 7. definitely like present as like for example Jamie Carroll he's not always like hey you know what you're saying Welcome to our Sky Sports yeah and you know he's yeah you know they just got rid of them yeah it kills me when he does that so his wife brings in dinner you analyze it was all right they're two separate you know [Laughter] have you ever had like anyone come up to you and say like stereotypes yeah man I always get a negative one I've heard it from a couple people like even when we went in locked in yeah so we all done this thing we all sat down and it was about 10 days in and uh we basically said what our first impressions was of each other in a circle and what they're like now everyone obviously not darkest movie before but everyone said I thought he was going to be so popular ass on a flash [ __ ] but you're not you're complete opposite yeah you actually I get that I get that I've had it from Girls before girls like oh you know you're really different I thought you was going to be like what do you mean there's I thought he's going to be some cocky arrogant prick I'm like why but why why have I what do I give back nothing like that I think with Johnny though when you look at him and you look at your socials you look like he likes the Finer Things in life but you don't flaunt it no but it's just sometimes when you post it that's what people take it for they take you for what you post they think I'm gonna be an [ __ ] like I remember someone said to me before oh like coming up to me like oh yo I'm so excited to bother you bro I know you don't bother them it's cool I don't care about anybody but he's like oh your face just looks like you don't want to be approached so apparently I've got a resting [ __ ] face like I do not wanna know yeah yeah I feel like until you smile I don't know there you go there's a smile I feel like for them they feel like it's safer to go in with the assumption that you're an [ __ ] in case that in case they're right annoys me it hurts I'm I'm completely opposite of that I don't want people looking at me and it almost saves on my support I've had it my whole career so it's almost got to the point where I've had that judgment where people think I'm a certain way and I'm not where I'm so shook now of people almost thinking I'm at my own ass that I always am like hey I'm on prick yeah yeah literally even like little stuff like see like wearing this obviously like myself my confidence got better stuff but usually I would not wear this on camera because I feel like there's gonna be a comment saying why is he trying to stunt but I don't want people to think that this and that but then I'm like bro it's just a normal thing to do you know what I mean but that's your reality isn't it and I think I just got to live in our realities like get me a note humble thing yeah as we're getting older obviously there's there's ways we need to deal with things it's quite different to the way we probably will do things back in the day and also with the careers that we have like we can't probably deal with conflict the way that everyone else can because everything we do is kind of judged do you feel more pressure or do you find it easier now dealing with conflict um as we're getting older now in terms of dealing with conflicts but I don't have any I wouldn't say I have any experience in terms of dealing with conflict as a in my career yeah as I like being slandered for anything or like whatever because I wouldn't say I've done anything right but it's just like because I'm not really that active on socials it's just you made you'll just catch me on YouTube on just on bear different and like wherever but I haven't I'd like to say I have I've until now I've haven't said anything to offend anyone thank god um I haven't done anything to offend anyone so in terms of dealing with conflict I've dealt with bad comments before like from a video like if I'm too loud in a video or like I was a bit maybe too rude to someone or stuff like that it never lost it will just be within that video and then it kind of It kind of dies down there's been there's never been like a long lasting conflict with in terms of what's happening to get to you huh the comments get to you yeah they do they add they do I'll stop it's like this if I have let's say there's 300 comments for example yeah if 299 of them are positive the best comments I've ever heard in my life don't matter you are a gift from God you're a treasure I love you yeah like I want to be related to you I'm seeing the best comments ever and I'm like yo this guy ain't really doing it for me who's that though yeah it's just like because I want it why why yeah why yeah why why don't I mean but then you have it's just kind of just you know it's just kind of you have to accept the fact that you're never going no one is ever going to be everyone's cup of tea yeah everyone has haters you could be or you could spread nothing but positivity from 24 7 from Sunday to Sunday you'll get one little prick that would be like why does he do this get a life do that I mean you always get here so it's just accepting that so yeah I think you just have to get used to not caring and just accepting the fact that there are some weirdos in the world that just hide behind pictures of Messi on Twitter I'm sorry Chelsea fans are the worst fruit oh CFC when you see CFC in in the username run CFC 007 Hazard CFC one two nine silly man what about you have you have you had any conflict oh you've spoken to me about comments before about that's probably affected your your mood sometimes but is there anything else or is it just comments on why uh what else did you mean by conflict so for example like like dark as I said like you might have said something it offended someone or someone's taken a comment out of time I'm offended a lot of people yeah like my I've told it down a lot but yeah right I come up off dark humor and if I knew something was gonna I I made a video back in the day and it was yeah listen maybe yeah yeah yeah mad but yeah it was it was I like I used to like triggering people because the majority of a friend bro that was the majority find it funny that's the type of Comedy yeah it's my thought because when I was coming up I used to not give a [ __ ] what people thought and then as I got bigger and it become more serious that this is my job now yeah I'm like I really care that I could get one bad comment on a video no joke for two weeks I don't wanna upload because I'm like [ __ ] it I'm done knowing it like I I I've started getting my head thinking hard clearly I'm on the downhill now I'm a failure so I mean it's on a Daniel just from one comment zombies that's probably not even doing well for himself that's why he's hating yeah I mean you never get hate from someone who's doing well for yourself yeah that's true though isn't it that's what I made we are winning yeah for those that don't know we are winning merch is available the link is in the description t-shirts for these tracksuits and all that stuff but yeah as I was saying yeah so like that's why I always say we are winning because see we are winning yeah it's a mentality like youth winners focus on winning losers focus on losing in it and I think when people look at you and think that then there's clearly something wrong in it I think for me my conflict I've dealt with is like again Force um conceptions about me people think that they know me based off whatever I've put out or like not taking comedy for comedy and taking it for gospel and stuff like that and it's difficult because like there's I know there's been hundreds of people who I've met and then after 30 minutes of a conversation they're like you know what you're actually pretty nice and it makes me feel not sad because that's the wrong word but it's like damn like you are easily convinced based off what you've seen and then on top of that it's like they might be like a thing with a theme of people people might be like oh yeah he's this towards these people and so on and so forth yeah but it's never that it's literally entertainment and some people tap for exactly that when we about the dating shows and stuff yeah people don't understand that these women have arcs to come on a show because it is comedy is entertainment and I think sometimes like people take that for it's reality like we've just destroyed this person yeah vice versa and it's like I get called things left right and Center every day but it's part of the job in it and I think it's just it's just part of it and you just have to know yourself more than anything in it but I wanted to move on to like friendships because um It's Magic I know I've heard this before though like you can't take everyone to the top you know like as you as you as you build you know some friends have got to go and stuff like what what's your friendship groups like um are they are they big is it small have you ever had to like leave people away just because it might take away from what you guys have got going on and if and if so how did that mean I haven't had to leave people behind I heard Snoop Dogg say this year and it was it's just it's so true he said I have about 10 maybe 11 like real die-hard friends but I have about a million friends um like I have about a million friends that I call their friends I can I have that I'm in contact with them I speak to them but we're not you get me we're not the checkup on each other what kind of people it's just we'll see you when I see you kind of thing but then there's about I'd say 10 or 11 people that check up on me that I check up on that that I can tell anything to that they can like vice versa do what I'm saying to because in terms of a good friend which is what I try to be as well sometimes you just have to know what the definition of that is so in terms of having a good friend that someone you can tell bad news to and they listen they're not gonna just start saying they're not gonna have to start having opinions like about about whatever you're telling them and saying yeah you're the you do this you should do that you're wrong just listen to what I'm saying to you even the same with good news listen to my good news and celebrate my good news with me this is what I try to do as well instead of like for example but if I come to you right now I'd be like yo I got um yeah I hit 500k subscribers oh yeah I remember when I did that bro it was like it was mad yeah that's crazy you just come on like come on man relax I'm saying to you like like I'm like it's just it's just little things like that they have to friends have to facilitate to your development and you have to first Germany and you have to facilitate to this did you read it would you learn that from no I just sort of just sort of came to me okay come on I think it's the fasting you know yeah yeah literally so I think that's what friendship is all about because even in our religion bro they say we're told to have righteous companions because obviously I don't want to get too deep but like one thing that I just I always like to think bigger picture when it comes to these kind of things because why we're told to have righteous companions is because there's going to be Judgment Day at some point and there's going to be a lot of this was his fault and that was his fault and that was his fault and that was his fault between friends between actual close friends in this world and it's going to be like and then they're going to start blaming each other because no one wants to get blamed for anything if you're if you have generous righteous friends that you try to help throughout your life and you had genuine like careful and it was the same otherwise and you reminded each other of the good and you keep them away from the bad then you're only going to get better from then I feel like those are the kind of friends that you want to have throughout your life and that you want to die with gee I'm saying to you so that's that's my definition of a friend you be there for them be there for you support just yeah I mean it's just things that you know already kind of thing yeah I think for for me like I I think the same thing I know bad people hello bro people bro like but then my actual friends is so mad like I felt lonely at home sometimes yeah because I'm like I I think maybe it's because of where I am now yeah and how much I've got to protect and I think the way I view things now and my energy is very much so like very important to me I think like my the only thing that's private about me right now is give me one second I've got one point and friend and they have to remind you of God yes yeah I forgot to throw I can't believe I forgot to throw it in no no you didn't you didn't forget yeah you're hungry yeah that's what I'm starving that's not fast enough that's what it is yeah yeah we speak about God a lot on on this podcast as well which is very important um so trust me but um yeah like going back to what I was saying I feel very lonely sometimes because I feel I'm very selective with who I want to bring around me whenever there's issues going on or whenever like there's there's genuine happiness and and things that I've worked very hard for the reason why I'm like that is because like you said I I remember one time yeah I was explaining to a friend of mine yeah who I don't have around me as much anymore because of stuff like this I was just like to him like to get me I was basically explaining to him about my my success and usually when I when I say what's happening yeah the reason why I speak about My Success because I I have it all in my head it's just good to let it out sometimes and speak to your friends a normal friend would be like again listening and having that ear to just like be like bro I'm proud of you like we've come from the same place I'm so happy to see where you are and he was just like bro just don't get lost in this thing bro you see how much people lose it like it was very negative and it wasn't what I wanted to hear I'm aware of that that's why I move a certain way so for me now it's like I'm I'm open to talk to my friends but it's got to be friends that I genuinely feel like it's it's an exchange we're both giving each other help we're both you get me elevating each other because I feel like my energy is up here at this precise moment I don't need anything to bring me down and it's usually someone that will have doubts about themselves they project it over to you so I've just basically you know I've still got all my friends around me but the energy has got to be pure bro if it's not pure I can't I just genuinely can't have it and then on top of that God fearing like you have to stop you've got a you've got to have something there and even if you even if you don't pray just know and acknowledge that there is a power even I don't care what religion you are just acknowledge that because for me it's like and not to say that you have to go and pray I'm not saying you have to but just be awake don't tell me that there's no God because if that's the case brother there's no meeting yeah there's no me yeah I'm I'm not religious at all yeah but I still like I said well like I said when I sit in bed at night and I go over the things I'm doing right and wrong and I reevaluate myself because I want to be morally correct morally right so even though I don't follow a certain religion I've always I believe in some sort of higher power or something's going on that I need to be a good person I have to I believe that you put good at in a life you'll get good back so that's good I think I think religion is good because it gives people kind of a sense of wanted to be a better person yeah I mean guidance as well yeah obviously I'm a bit older than you guys I just want to say it on I don't actually want to say the reason why everybody in the whole world calls me old is because of this man right here and you know what can I be honest with you yeah think about you this is how you know it's just for YouTube yeah off camera have I ever called you on never I've never called him because I generally don't think you're old it's just the fact that when you know you know what you know what you know when it kicked in for me it was the rap battle that me and you had oh yeah I was really trying because you bought a very good looking brother so I'm thinking what can I say about him okay he's got a bit of years on us I'm just gonna have to exaggerate I've never ever felt so speechless I remember one of my bridges called me yeah yeah nah man what's wrong with the darkness but he doesn't understand that but as time has gone on now here like he actually loves you to bits in it he's just like no he goes Rob you're bad in this room I was talking on that was like you know as I'm a bit older than you guys and obviously there's a lot of pressures that we have faced in order to get to where we are right now yeah but growing up yeah I doubt the pressures with that that mad you know you literally you have your little school money that your mum gives you and you go to school you go to college you go to university it's never really about how mad it is no but now obviously with social media being the Forefront of Our Lives we literally live off our phones like everything is done on our phones the younger generation obviously have this um it's it's a kind of like a forced you know reality that they have to live up to which is nine to five is not seen as a no I I was speaking yesterday about like the normal stuff like bro playing runouts going out riding my bike I don't see people outside anymore like I remember playing football from when I wake up and I'm allowed to go outside till the night time and I drink one bottle of water throughout the whole day like I'm just living that life in it and obviously now we're coming across as those people that are the old guys back in my day like you know what I'm trying to say but it really is that because it was an element of life like do you see the pressures of the new generation and how do you like how do you see it from your your lot's perspective of what it's like to be a 16 year old who you know might want to wear the the designer from head to toe or my only eye you know I'm not getting a little Banger before I get my real car I'm going to go straight and yeah Mercedes or BMW like how do you view that I feel like there's a lot of pressure on the the kids nowadays especially Instagram's the main thing I think Instagram is like it used to be when it started coming like obviously when we was younger we didn't really have that it was bibo MSN actually that means you're not really comparing oh look this skis has flashed this he's got so much money why has he got so much money young as everyone wants to be rich a young age nowadays I mean there's no pride in getting an answer five kind of graft coming home and actually that's a completely okay thing to do it's not seen like that anymore and I feel like it started off with just girls you know girls want to look a certain way they want the big bums they want their boobs done have their [ __ ] injections all in their face all that stuff just because of how people are looking on Instagram and then they know with boys it's almost like it all comes down to money like people want to be rich people want to look rich it's a fake world it's fake reality like half these people you see on Instagram that look like they're up are probably not you know what I mean and it's a lot of pressure on the kids and like you said about going out like no one does that anymore like I used to go out you'd knock for your mates on the charts that they're in because you're not bailing them I mean yeah you're knocking them on a chance they're in and you're out all day and now it's just yeah iPad getting that Vape just before you say something yeah in order for you to like have um any communication via the Internet or via anything might have to go on a computer yeah PC yeah again I'm sounding like an old man but for me that allowed me uh to like for example like Friday nights with my family were incredible I'll come home and watch so much TV there was so much great stuff on television when I was younger but on a Saturday I'm out from early black and the only time I'm allowed to go on a computer is if by my parents discretion if they said to me okay cool we're gonna lock off the because back then it was AOL and it's like then man's locked off to the internet and it's only baseball yeah that's how it sounded so it's like we've come from that era yeah so looking looking at it now it just seems so so wild and I think mentally you have to stay clued up to to not get drowned into that that hole you feel like your patience has got so thin because of social media 100 mine are so bad so much but I'll say one thing today my screen time has gone down and it's now an hour one hour and 26 minutes good oh it's gone down an hour 26. oh it is that's how much it is but yeah I think that we're just so glued to our phones that everything happens news um your favorite team whether everything Maps it's all on our phone so I I hear it but yeah you was gonna say no I'm just saying in terms of going off of what he said in terms of what um what we wanted growing up and in terms of what kids now want growing up of course you have to understand the transition but you have to look at the world we live in now bro it's not the opportunity is now I went there when we were going through they say you know how it's 10 times easy to make money now than I believe than it was when we were growing up you couldn't do socials or all of these things well you've got kids making you've got kids who are in high school who are millionaires who who do YouTube but they're still going to school and obviously these kids that see this kid say I want to do that and whether it's not that it will be crypto or something else there's so much different you know I'm saying to you there's so much different ways now to to sort of have yours and then so now that's why I feel like all the kids want that and especially us now and Instagram and you've got people obviously showing watches and rings and chains and you might these kids might have an important jewelry they have jewelry how do they have jewelry I want jewelry now you've got a fascinating now you're infatuated with jewelry because you've seen on Instagram you did not care about jewelry before yesterday yeah I'm saying to you but now you do I don't blame them though at first I I used to think how can they be like this like you know whatever and stuff how can you blame them look at like what you said Society is now set up to exploit the young kids because they are the ones that are going to make everybody else the most money so if you look at it like back in the day I remember when man used to go to like sports shop and stuff like certain Sports shops will have track suits say like targeted for a certain uh demographic of people then now it's like it's now brands that we we all wear like everyone can wear that you can I remember I'll never forget it I followed my friend to this party once yeah he was like oh just I want to pass through to this party it's my brothers probably I'm gonna go then we're going to go out in that party it was Harrods everybody from the girls this is like three years ago yeah yeah voice to the girls everybody was was dripped out me personally I wasn't gonna I wasn't dressing like that but they were but that was their reality in it so it's kind of like who are we to say like oh look at the kids now because in essence they're kids now I see like year rates coming off the bus and they've been like gooses and [ __ ] monclers and that it is sad though can't be honest with you guys we're talking like we're completely exactly we post into we posted like you said about the about the crypto thing about whatever I feel like it's good to almost have some sort of pressure on you because like there really isn't any it's not used or you go the only way to get a good job nowadays he's got University that was all it was back in the day you go uni you get a good job get a qualification that's the only way nowadays you can literally make millions from your phone yeah you want it you know what I mean so it's good you don't have to move so it's good in a sense of there's that opportunities yeah opportunities but when people don't succeed in it or they wanna it's a negative impact because you know I mean you're comparing yourself to everyone else doing well I was like why can't I do that but I'll say one thing though the generations have changed so like the older Generations they were great hard work determination you work hard you get your results then now things have started to come in more like for example the sports there's music there's all these are things that people are now channeling in their energy swords now things are changing more to more social and you can literally be in your crib like look down allowed a lot of people to make so much money from home yeah that they probably would have never made anywhere at their job so it there's a bit of a bit of both good and bad about how social media has Now controls the world but for me it's just the essence of like life and humanity and being able to go outside a lot of people are not they don't go and take fresh air some people don't even walk they just drive everywhere drive into this place into that place and it's like I think for me we I always say that we was born in one of the best eras because it was we never had what we have now but we're balanced but we was there for the transition in it yeah and I just hope that the young kids understand that like it's it is literally a marathon not Sprint and you can burn yourself out trying to be like for example us I only started making real money at the age of 28 29. yeah I find that very inspiring you know yeah but it is because now I believe that I'm I'm a testament uh evidence that bro it doesn't matter what time you do it like as long as you do it you do it right obviously you have to have a bit of talent and you have to have a bit of application as well and obviously for me more importantly prayer as well but all of those things allowed me to just really get to where I need to get to so it's never too late if you actually put your mind to it because now I'm at that Financial stage or not to say I'm I'm gone but I literally am at a place right now where I can say I don't want to work for a month I know it'll be a bit difficult my manager won't be happy with that but that is something that I've allowed for myself in it and it's like giving yourself giving myself Freedom which I've always wanted like imagine knowing that you can do you can buy something but don't buy it that is always what I've always wanted to to have for myself along with like being able to just be happy doing what I want to do like working with you guys is like I always I've got the best job because I get to work on my friends yeah like every day I get to work I can get out my get out on my bed wake up in the morning I know that these are going to be there and it's going to make me happy and also it's less pressure if I'm not funny in this episode darkest will be and how'd you get me you will be and I think that's that's a beautiful um feeling like social media has kind of it's good and bad it's given us not just money but Financial Freedom you know I mean like not having to work for someone directly is I think that's very glamorizing definitely Inspire the kids to do like yes Be Your Own Boss work hard like deliver but also learn lessons because I always I had to be you know a soldier in an opera in an operation before becoming a boss and that is the key elements I feel like everyone's got straight to Blue and Boston yeah eight years but quickly before we go because I know you've got enough really to buy 100 racks to make um what would you say to a 16 year old Johnny and darkest 16 I'd say first thing would probably be Pro yeah second thing will be listening to your mom especially because we need you right we need you we need you but yeah I feel like bro it's um three things but it's it's religion family career it's giving me those three things so I think if I if I try to tackle those three things in the most healthy manner I think I'll be okay like yeah I feel like probably which I still resonate with myself now is don't be so hard on myself I'm so out of myself like it's a joke I don't mean to be but I'm just very I I find it hard to give myself credit and situations like for example if if some my friends are sick and it sometimes my friends like will be uh having a drink or something like that where we've gone to doing after when everyone's like oh that's just like oh talk about me and I just say look how well he's done like he [ __ ] smashed it Bubba and I don't like it and I love that loud I don't want to hear it because it makes me like I don't I don't like all that attention on me yeah yeah like you you've done sick what just because you're a plumber you don't feel like yeah of course you know what I mean so I'm just very hard on myself I don't give myself enough credit and I thought I should get myself more credit but definitely said okay definitely should I think everybody should give Johnny some credit as well guys help him feel confident they get me but um for me my last thing would be um because I've got different ones and I like to do it for different episodes but for me I think I would say whatever you're feeling in your chests go with it because I've always felt like there was a there was something in me that like I just didn't think I should go and pursue what my heart was telling me to do um even though I did pursue at the age of 27 I know I could have done it earlier and I think I probably would have had the issues that I had if I had just focused on this one thing so I feel like as human beings we all have that burning thing that you you might think you're good at and there's there's people that work as Bankers that generally are incredible rappers but they never will do it because they're like no one's going to take me serious because I'm a banker and I haven't lived a certain life but if that's your actual passion and you feel so passionate about it go and do it like really truly he's probably seen more money than any of these [ __ ] he's probably making more money there's a lot of these people anyway yeah and it's not to say that music is based off uh money it's not it's based off how doing something you love doing something you love it's a passion in it so I'd always say follow the passion along with like for me again it's always about God pray on it work hard I think once you pray and you work hard God will take care of it so um I think that'll be my message but with that being said thank you so much Johnny and Dorcas for coming through and um explaining yourselves and even for myself as your friends the stuff I didn't know about you that I learned today and I think that's why I love this podcast so anyway guys I've been Harry Potter like I said this has been Johnny Carey and darkest man their socials will be below go check them out and Yeah another episode peace

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Length: 66min 12sec (3972 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 02 2023