Frankie Jonas Talks TikTok, Being the 4th Jonas Brother & Why He Doesn't Act Anymore

hello beautiful human i am so excited frankie jonas is an icon and he's gonna be hanging out with you me and daniel yep any second but please leave your honest feedback in the comment section below like the video and even if you hate us subscribe let's do this show by the way this is dan frankie hello is it weird that you meet people that feel like they've known you for a long time because uh they've seen you for a long time no yeah it's uh it's absolutely uh no it's a thing because i mean a lot of people have seen me since i was a kid right since for the most part a lot of people especially in this industry know my brothers personally um my brothers have been on your show several times and so um no i feel like in a way i'm catching up to meeting all these people it's kind of weird because i i've dude i've known your your brothers and your family and your dad for a long time like you when you were younger looked exactly like your dad and now as you grow up it's it's weird is it weird that you're living your life more publicly today than you actually lived it before no absolutely and what's weirdest about is that i didn't like i didn't mean to come and and like be a thing i i'd say that thing no i i just started picking tic tacs and then it's all sort of just happened you really are a thing though is that but do you think you were a thing before i think it was no so what was interesting when this when like i started making tech talks and started getting bigger was i found out about like these little sects of people who have been i mean like i thought of myself as a meme before all this like just like and so i like there was this um this like dormitorium in university of chicago that had like a shrine to me for the past five years and i had no idea about it and they have like a gift exchange that was named after me and like they theme it around like young frankie jonas and it's all about like there's all these like pictures of me when i was like a 12 year old it's amazing like it's crazy so did this just feed the beast you going on tick-tock right you just gave the people what they wanted i think so i think in a way it no i i think it definitely was so symbiotic the way it just sort of happened um i think that given sort of my brother's like comeback last year or two years ago now it we skipped a year um but um which was like their comeback was so massive and so big i think um a lot of people were possibly wondering like where was i in it and then i think it was given quarantine given like the rise and popularity of tick tock as like just one of the biggest apps ever um i think it just kind of gave the perfect motive to to give my me a voice in a way it is the right vehicle because it does in many different ways it celebrates authenticity it celebrates no filter it's like like it's almost like the uglier you look in the video the better chance you have of winning the algorithm and just taking off exactly no and i think that that's why i i mean for a long time i like couldn't even see myself being off online publicly at all i had a lot of trouble with it and then you know tick tock gave me this opportunity because when i made my account like there was no one watching i had i didn't know the algorithm worked i didn't know if i made like videos that were in some way referencing my family or my brothers that it would get picked up because like one person would see it and then comment or like and then five people would see it um and i didn't i had no i had no idea that that was how it was going to work and so it gave me the opportunity though to be myself and to be exactly who i was and am in that moment and it worked dude and who you are is really the most fascinating and pretty cool and like uh you know the weirdest way i mean clearly there's there's a cult in the works and are there uniforms i i'm so i've been working on them i've been working on the uniforms um i look really good in a robe anything that's like like a muumuu that could just hang from my shoulders to my my feet that just like just drapes you know doesn't like clean just yeah i keep that i think i think i'm you know now that i'm kind of bridging into like a fashion world i want to like i want to reach out to some designers about robes and but first we have to lock down the compound that's the part that's that's the priority number one on my on my radar where do you bring numbers and then of course but the thing is the thing is the you get the compound you get the uniforms we already have the doctrine so the people will come you gotta have the place that they flock to you need to have that shining light that star i need i need my jonestown so uh question did you really get yourself as a kid oh my god yes so okay because you allude to the story i was watching so many of your tick tocks i mean the story is legitimate you did yourself as a a kid and that cost you a role no it cost me my career in acting what stop it no way i mean you're a kid like what are you what are they talking about how old were you was this okay so all right story time so i was 12 years old um and i there was a show uh it was like a reboot in a way of um what was the like in our the rl stein show it was it was it was the haunting hour was the one that i was on um and they i did two episodes i did one which was a halloween episode and then it did really well and they were like can you come back and do another episode when i came back it was like a cowboy themed like there's ghost cowboys on my farm right okay and we're filming in the summer of canada and there's there's a bunch of horses on set and we're filming the final like big duel scene right and then i go in the morning and i go pet the the horses because i've never been around a lot of horses like i i just never have yeah you're from new jersey horses aren't i'm from new jersey yeah exactly um there's not a lot of horses but you know four hours after i pet these horses we're filming this scene we're in the middle of the scene not to get too gruesome in the details but um it's like the third take sweat is beating down my my head and i'm i suddenly get the urge to like explode like my ass i've never felt the kind of pressure that i did in this moment and i and i'm holding it i'm i have a monologue i have a monologue and you're an outfit like you're in wardrobe you're in the costumes oh full wardrobe like miked up i'm about to myself and like i'm holding it in i'm making i'm doing the monologue and then all of a sudden i'm like i literally i just can't and like i i i let go of like the the tectonic like plate that is my ass cheeks at this point even the slightest second and it just like flows and then right and then and then they we finished the scene and my my mom was not there but my like sister was um so i was like right so i need to go to the bathroom immediately so we run we're walking the bathroom i forget i'm mic'd up i look at her i go i already went and then we get we get to the bathroom i like rip off the wardrobe i like if you've ever seen uh daddy daycare like that's how the bathroom trailer looked like there was like like i rip and then i go to the door and then they bring me a new costume i go back to set right i'm like all right all right it's all out of me that was a thing there's nothing left now forward we can move forward and this is where the story gets unbelievable but i promise you this is all real this is all real they say action i'm in it i'm like yes blah blah blah i get 75 of the way through the monologue and then i don't even have time to hold this one it's just rough like mount vesuvius and like i'm standing there and i once again i don't want to get too gruesome but i have to express the severity of this situation i was wearing cowboy boots the cowboy boots that were like my my cops were tucked into my cowboy boots did you hit the camera boots were overflowing overflowing and then afterwards i'm like i got to go to the bathroom again sorry guys do they have three wardrobes ready to go so i walk to the bathroom literally footprints of in my way because it's flowing out of my cowboy boots i get i get to the i get to the trailer i take off my costume my family like my dad was right pretty religious like i i had never had people curse at me like i like had not been around that a lot oh no i'm in the i'm in the trailer i get off my costume i go to the door they give me the the wardrobe people are there they hand me the costume and they say frankie they look at me straight in the eyes i'll never forget it because it was such a real moment this is the third and final copy of your costume if you in this costume we will have to halt production for a day for the love of god by the way like she's not pants again they're now spending money they don't have like like it's a whole thing to stop production for a day is like you're stopping traffic flow like it was at that that like practically doubles the budget yeah i put on the costume i go back to set i'm i'm like but even this i like wait in the bathroom for like 10 minutes to make sure you're trying to let it all out i get to set i walk on they say action two lines in i yell cut and i run and while i'm running it just like i i let it all out i let it all out it was bad and they had the whole production they had a medic come and apparently i'm like allergic to some bacteria that grows on that on a horse's mane whoa that will make you like lose control of your bowels with what i was told after all that there's a medical reason as to and by the way i only laugh because i have two i had i had an accident or two upon myself uh in crucial moments in life i i can't lean on a horse's mane as my out i wish um i gotta go back in my memory and see if there was a horse anywhere near um i think that's the best story that's ever been told on our show frankie yeah hands down oh my god that's that's an honor but okay i just need some details here there's a medical reason the the the medic says this happened because of a horse's mane but yet hollywood still goes yourself three times on set you're not we don't want to work with you they had to extend production a day so like it was the last day of shooting so they had to like sign all the union guys up again the whole crew hates you dude they're all ready to leave me the whole crew hates me but like they also like can't hate me because those because i was miked like they heard me be like oh i can't like did the scene ever get shot the scene the scene got shot the following day with like just these like angry roadies like these angry union guys who hate me um and then i was told like years later that because i i i auditioned once or twice after that and not only was i like blacklisted i was also like i didn't want to act after that experience that's traumatizing yeah that will i did i i i had an accident on an airplane and for it's ruined how i i go to the bathroom in public for the last i mean like 18 years or something like it's like it's it's been i delayed an airplane from takeoff going from newark to orlando i was going to disney with my family on a trip and i delayed the entire plane because i was before takeoff i had to go and they started banging on the door and they made an announcement shaming me and i was around like 10 12. and yeah dude i haven't gone number two in a public restroom in i mean i can't even i could tell you because when it happens it's so it's so huge in my life i'm gonna be honest i always wonder what creates the people who can't in public yeah like i always wonder about like what is the story that created that thing and that that like that's valid that is understandable why you would never want to experience that ever again and maybe if i was like my age now like i'd be able to weather that storm a little bit better of like a public shaming um but you know when you're 10 or 12 in your case like you know that that it is a stain that does not get away it does not no way no you cannot take that off those are tracks on the underwear of life that will never wash out and what i was told years later like by this by a producer was you know i told him i was like yeah i i wasn't going to act after that anyway he was like oh you couldn't have and i was like what do you mean it was like oh you were known for that experience for a while did you genuinely back then like what was your goal was it to be a thespian did you see what you know nick joe and kevin were doing and you wanted to do that or did you just it was a part of you figuring out who you were it was definitely part of me figuring out who i was i mean we moved to la right and then when we moved to la it was pretty much immediately like they did their appearance on hannah montana like the like the week that we got to la um crazy and so for me i mean when i got there it was just kind of like well i mean frankie's frankie could act you know like frankie could do something um and then the first audition i ever went on was ponyo and i got it wow i remember noah wow yeah that was an animated movie it was phenomenal wasn't it nominated for all these awards like it was like gorgeous i know i like i've since gotten accepted to columbia university and that's still the thing i'm probably most proud of that i've done in my life yeah it was just that moving movie it's really crazy that like you know i remember seeing your brothers perform at the willowbrook mall in new jersey you know it's great you were there yeah hell yeah was i lived right down the street and that concert changed my life but it is weird to think that y'all come to la and the first week you're really ever here also becomes the week that kind of changes everybody's life and that that movie is a game changer because i mean it's voice over so if you pooped yourself it would have been easier to manage uh it definitely would have been it definitely would have been it still would have been a little bit of a thing a little bit of a thing um but no then i like enjoyed acting i thought it was a lot of fun um and then after that experience uh i i took a needed hiatus from it yeah so at what point do you want to go public again i mean because making a tick tock had to be did you really not know at the time that this had the opportunity to reach people like were you really naive to that or did you know like okay if i do something like people are going to pick up on it so i i like went a year without downloading tik tok i thought i was like really cool for not having the app on my phone i thought i was like this like superior being because i had not succumbed to like the psyop that tick tock was at the time and like i when i downloaded it within the first week i was my first day i was making tick tocks because i thought it was funny i was convinced to download it by my girlfriend and like i i mean immediately i was just in it i was just like oh this makes sense to me and then i didn't know how the algorithm worked i had i was really naive to the whole thing and so when my first like tick tock that went sort of viral from my like account with 10 followers and all 10 of them are people that i play minecraft with right um like it was a video where it was like show yourself and a celebrity you look like and i had to put my brothers and i made this like funny little thing it was like this weird little video it was it was just for me because i thought it was funny didn't think it was gonna go anywhere genuine and it then got like 700 000 views and then the next day i was like oh well now there's people watching and they're watching it but i'm being me so let's just like commit to the bit and then i made a video about how i got kicked out of belmont university and then like that went even more viral because people remember that as the last time they heard my name dan do you know that story yeah he got arrested for smoking with possession of weed outside of a gas station that was like 2015 or 16 right jesus yep you know you know your stuff yeah i remember that came out because everyone's like oh the jonas brothers brother was arrested and that's how a lot of people heard about you and that's also like the last time we really heard much from you arresting people for cannabis is so like a reagan era thing like what's going on i will say this much it's nashville tennessee like i get it it's i mean there's there's it's different it was also like it's you know you know what you're getting into do you have to after your tick tock start going viral do you have to kind of prevent yourself from doing so much about your brothers or your family because like i think that's easy views and likes which is good but at the same time do you really want to make your whole career about talking about your family absolutely no yeah i think at first it was there was a lot of stuff that i i enjoyed because like i i mean like for me in a weird way i'm kind of like a super fan of them in a way where i can't help but be you know like i know all the trivia like i've heard the songs thousands of times i've been to more shows than any other person has probably been to um and so for me it was i i i had a lot of like thoughts and opinions on it all and like i've been wanting to share them for like a long time for instance with like the mary to jonas video that i did um where i like did all the sound clips from that show um like that's something that like i've i've loved and equally made fun of that show since it came out i watched that show in my free time like not even a joke i genuinely watch mary to jonas all the time i think it's an incredible show do you do it's a hidden gem but are you learning new things that you didn't know before yes because like when i first watched the show as a kid i like couldn't really understand a lot of it but now watching it it's like it's like a different perspective because i know i know my family now as an adult so much different than i knew them at the time because i mean i am so much younger than them i'm eight years younger than nick i'm like 14 years younger than kevin so for for me it was like growing up they were already adults and they were already like having these like complex experiences that i couldn't understand at all but getting to watch this show it brings me to like a sensibility where i can understand where their head was at in a lot of ways um but yeah no back to your other question i mean i i just like i i made sure to at a certain point be like all right i have i've done everything that i can say on this topic and if everything comes up then like sure i'll go there but for the most part i've been able to give myself a um my own voice in talking about the nepotism that i've been able to acquire what is that how do you define nepotism and has it helped you or hurt you you think i think it's helped me a lot i mean it's helped me and it's hurt me in other ways i mean like i think that i've i'm someone who's very like i've tried to be as aware of it as possible um i've been able to have experience in my life that other people can never have because of my family because of their experiences if i was just some dude making videos about like watching hentai for the first time people might not like it as much or people might not have seen it and shared it as much as it i would have if i am me because of my family um but and that's helped me and been an amazing experience just to be able to to have the life that i've been able to live but at the same time it's i like to stay aware of it because i can too quickly forget you know it's such an it's such an easy thing to be like oh like i not to say that i'm in any way like uh going on the backs of their career because like i would never happen to be in their family you know you didn't you can't choose your family they're a brother yeah exactly and that's why like i like i i used to say like i have a genetic form of nepotism that i cannot cure because like i'm physically like i physically cannot help the association but being mindful of it is necessary is that hard to come to though because like early on in life like you could totally get lost in the glitz and the glamour like because you're just kind of around it you know what i mean to a certain degree yeah no absolutely no you i mean i when we were in new jersey we were like you know we were we were a small family we like we lived on a pastor's salary like that was like where we were at and then you know you you snap a finger and suddenly like we were on private jets and stuff and it was like such a crazy experience for like a kid to to go through that it was like maybe a six-month period of change from when we were no even less it was like a couple months from when we were living in jersey and then to when we were in la working at disney so wild it was so rapid when you look at everything that you've been through where do you want to go and what do you want to do because now you have a voice and you have a platform that is yours right yeah it's i mean that's one of those things where like i didn't intend for this so i have no idea it wasn't like i came into this being like i want to get here there's been things that have come into my lap there's been so much i've been like so much has been uh brought to me that i thought was in part like impossible um that like what i've like like for instance um i'm doing this like tick tock fashion week thing which i'm so excited about it's gonna be amazing it's like i'm hosting their fashion week thing um their runway show they're like live stream it's crazy i would have never thought that i would have done that i'm like being styled by like like bigger brands i love facts like it's like something that i've been obsessed with since i was a kid but i never thought that i could like be in that world um but it's something i've seen your brothers in right you've seen those around you be in that world i've watched them do like big brand deals i've watched them do like i've watched them do everything um and then to have people be reaching out to me and being like this i've like i've had phone calls with like production companies i've had like i've done i've it's like doors have been opened that i thought didn't exist i mean is this for you because you knew they existed for someone they i didn't think they existed for me i didn't think that there was a potential for me to like get on the phone and like pitch ideas or like or like have or have people pitch ideas to me right i didn't think that i didn't think i was going to be on the zack saying show ever in my life but like you know like that's like something that's like these things are so astronomical from what i was my perspective like six months ago i mean four months ago i've only been on the app for three months that's crazy do you think the virus like the way the algorithm works could be unhealthy for some like do you think you'd be handling what you're going through differently if you didn't have the genetic nepotism that you you know that was just you know given to you predisposed upon you i think i'm i think that it could be i think that definitely if you're not prepared for it it's like it's it can be great i mean even for me it was it was definitely a lot it like it was a it was a a mental it was it was strenuous because i also i mean a lot of this stuff all happened right as i started school um i went i'm back in school now for the first i've been out of school for three years um and all of this has happened in conjunction with me starting up again in college um which has been crazy um is that hard i mean because it's probably hard without tick tock you know to go to college if people knew your deal it's definitely a weird experience i mean it's it's it's hard i mean it's school is hard regardless um luckily i've been able to like make sure i'm i'm i'm prioritizing both of them equally and and because i mean it does i mean one feeds the other right so with tick tock i'm able to like afford college and like be able to do that and then with with uh with college i'm able to like think of ideas for videos and like i'm able to to be around people exactly it's life it's experience um and it's because i can only i can make i can only make so many videos about time before being in the public eye and being current right before people get tired of it and and that's something about tick tock that i've learned because i've made friends within the app like i've really pushed myself into that world and i've met so many amazing people like i never really thought that i would be like a like i was never really savvy with social media but because of tick tock and because of how fluid it is i've been able to make these amazing relationships with other tick tockers where they can like coach me because they've been in it for so much longer than me and you have to and with the app you have to develop and you have to like every couple of months you have to change and you have to like you have to figure out a new um version of your persona that does not neglect the people that have been there but gives the opportunity to people who have like swiped past you and before so it's essentially like you know every few months you put out a new album it's like you know you want to keep the best parts of what was but you want to keep evolving so you bring on new people like so i mean it creatively challenging tick-tock like in a weird way even though it isn't or have you had to go through that shift yet i've had to go through that shift like three times like like three times i've had that moment of like all right what how can i take my content and like sort of reinvent it in a way and like and develop it and i've also had missteps of being like all right i tried this a couple of times um like i made this like i went through this three week period or uh it was more like two weeks i went like this two week period of like where everything i was making i was trying to be as awkward and uncomfortable as possible and like for the first week it was like killer like people thought it was really funny and then i made this video which was um i made a chick-fil-a mukbang and like and it like bombed and then i made another one after that which was like the sequel to the chick-fil-a mukbang and like that bomb too and i kind of realized like okay so now this is people are getting tired of this voice and then i tried a couple more things and i was like all right this is confirmed that we can now put this to rest and try something else and maybe come back to it in the future and it's all about like timing in a way it's more i know my my content seems super chaotic and like and um random or like just just entropic in the most for like the most innate sense but like i mean it's really planned like everything that i post is super planned out strategic and you like so you doing those dances and being i mean you really move your body in a way that i haven't seen people move um i have ehlers-danlo which is like i have hypermobility in my spine i didn't know that what what nobody does that no people people will always make comments like how do you move like that like i like i have like a condition i'm so sorry i'm oh i apologize i don't know no don't apologize i've never met somebody like you before so obviously this is another shade to your personality another layer to the onion yes another layer of the onion i have hypermobility in my spine and my uh my skin is uh translucent in areas what wait so you know you see it in the dark no not like not like you can would be the wrong word like you can see my bones in some areas like you can see my rib cage like not like like not like like see it like the the outline of it like there's points where you can like visually like see it does it hurt even more getting a tattoo oh no no damn no yeah caesar why do you regret the tana tattoo um honestly no honestly not at all um i think i think that that tattoo so she had reached out like i i don't know i've been like a youtube kid i've been like that's kind of my world in a lot of sense growing up and so i've always i've always known about tana i've known i've i've watched her through the the blossoming of her career and when she followed me and then dm'd me your life it was like my whole i was like i'm like i'm like this is real like this is a real thing that is happening right now um and she commented on this video that i made about tattooing myself and i was like i i i went up to my girlfriend i was like we this is a this is like a moment that we have this is an idea that we cannot pass up so supportive uh we made it seem like she like hated it in the moment but it was like she was like this is a great idea this is gonna be exactly what you expected to be and like it worked like it like it it did the thing and like i'll be honest as like a as as um memorabilia goes from this moment that i'm having in life like that's a great one that's a great one and it's bigger than it's bigger than you think like it's like pretty thick so you see it it's a reminder what is it a reminder i wear shorts it is very apparent so hot summers in new york city good luck okay hot summers everyone's gonna be wondering about the at tana tattoo and i just had some people read like i i some people were in my comments yesterday about um trying to get trisha paytas to agree to have me on frenemies if i tattoo at trisha on my leg as well so we'll see if that goes there's no way trish the fish a friend of ours and ethan klein i'm not friends with him but i love his eyebrows i i'm sure they'll have you on i mean what what i've been that's like if any okay so harken back to your earlier question if there's like a goal out of all of this it is to be on a podcast with h3 and tricia so are you gonna get the tattoo is that is that in the plans or do you want her to agree to it first i need her to agree to it i cannot do it i want i mean listen i'm honestly i'm down to just tattoo at trisha or at fish the fish on my body at any point i'm down i'm here for it but i do want some like verbal agreement that you're gonna get something there is a then i will get something out of it so we'll see we'll see how it goes well you know this is i don't really like to get into uh internet anything ever but this seems like a place where we can connect the dots and you know introdu introduce you to trish trisha payne is the best trisha is literally my queen like i i love her she's uh yeah she's incredible and i saw her concert highly recommend it uh and i am a big fan of frenemies i've been watching it it's the only youtube podcast i watch it's really good it's so good i just love that they're family and i really love trisha i really do i care about her and uh she came on our show and she dressed like pam anderson do you remember that daniel in her green lace dress she did that on purpose yeah i know she's so great i mean she's the details with her really she's on it i just think it's funny that the headlines are like you know joe's having a baby nick's married frankie gets tana mongoose's name tattoo in our thigh tana mongoose nobody can really pronounce their last name and no nobody can and i think i i tried to make a a bit about that in the video and i think you know in a way that's kind of what i want like i want the i want the headlines to be like i i don't like what's wrong with this kid like what is like fundamentally like what happens to him like that's what i want is that a story that you want people to really hear like because clearly something like you've lived a life dude it's a story life for somebody at your age and like we've definitely established here what you experienced and soak in early on in life like you don't just let that go absolutely not and i think i think i kind of coming into this uh when it started to get real i i had this idea to kind of [Music] to really push into what it means to be like i wanted to be both the parody of the influencer with but also like embrace it in a way where you can't tell so even saying this like i'm at the point now that i theorized about three months ago when it was i i'm going to play into the youtube stunts that i lecturing right of these vloggers who like would create these dramas and this and this these narratives and even now i'm in a place where it's like i've i intended to become so much of a parody of it that i forgot that i was making a joke and and i've been able to accomplish it in a way where i i think it's worked i think it worked is it because it is so is so deeply derived from who you are as a person it's really not that far off from your actual being in reality i think i think partly i think because of the fact that i've been able to be me in that role and be authentically like myself right making jokes about poop making jokes about like masturbation making jokes about like whatever it is i've been able to to be me but also embrace this other side of it where i can be both the influencer but also the person making fun of the influencer and i think that having the duality is is has been an important part of this rise to it like like i um i think as a reference i will i would i would say look at like my the videos i made about um uh dick's picks like the dixie like creator of the month like those videos are very like prevalent in that like i am doing that bit harder than others to say the least i always think it's funny that you do make fun of yourself as being the fourth jonas brother and the two tick tocks that are examples are the one the guy's like how do you become part of the one percent and you're like have famous brothers yeah yes it's literally that easy and then the other one was uh you dueted some guy and you were crying in the shower and the guy's like i'm not even kevin i'm frankie see that and that one was like that one was the real first big moment was that video because that video i didn't do anything in that video i just sat in the shower in my clothes and cried and like and that went huge and that's like it's what you were saying about tik tok it's so weird what does get viral it's the things that you wouldn't expect it's the it's the things that don't have the the massive budget it's the things that don't get thought of for a month it's the things that you do in like these 30 minute spans of like all right how do i respond to this how do i do a thing frankie when you're doing all of this is there ever a time anybody in your family whether it's your brothers or your mom or whoever it may be dad says like hey frankie like let's let's tone it down a bit are they like you do you there's been some times there's been some times of like yo maybe let's take a step back like let's just take a step let's just take a sec um breathe on this um because i'm you know i'm i'm someone who's i'm willing to lay it out on the line if that was not uh obvious based on everything i've said thus far in this interview um but no i think i think i can definitely forget that like oh wait like people are going to hear this right and so like their opinions of me are going to change but and i think partly i'm someone who like i i don't think that it's it's good to to to ever censor yourself for anyone right never um i think that because you know i've i've i've grown up in a lot of different situations whether it be before or after my brother's rise to initial success or than that subsequent uh reclaiming of of their success as a unit or they're still the projects or just in my own life i've seen a lot of different aspects of life and i've just realized like i i mean i was i was always someone who tried their hardest to stand out in a way um and then at least in high school and then at a certain point i just i stopped trying and like was able to accomplish just standing out and because i am like i'm i'm not i'm a i'm like a weird kid um which you'd expect nothing less from maya you today do you think do you today would make you 10 year old you or i don't know nine i mean you're super young would young you be proud of you today you think i mean i've accomplished like the bare minimum of what i expected of myself at this age at that point which was be covered in tattoos and like mostly ones like bad ones like that that was your that i gave to myself in like panic attack i mean you're getting there aren't you you have a yeah no i i'm fairly like i'm at a point now where like oh oh wait no i'm am i wearing long sleeves yeah i'm not going to be able to but like i i'm at a point now where like i'm i'm definitely fairly covered for like a 20 year old um but i think that i would be i think my 10 year old self would be proud of me mainly because i've been able to and this is like where it gets into like the honest vulnerability stuff but like because i've been able to overcome a lot of the the difficulties i had at that age with my my family's success and like being in the public eye and you know it's it's scary for a kid to like see crowds of people screaming and trying to jump over fences at your family like that's like a that's like a weird experience um and so growing up with that i think i dreamed about a day when i could sort of overcome my own fears and and uh and uh negative emotions about being in the public eye and then because of that it's very clear that now i'm just brutally honest in in a almost like very self-deprecating way but like at the same time i do it um with love and good intention in my heart so it's it looks to others it would be like oh this is self-deprecating humor but in actuality i'm just being honest like i'm not i'm not making fun of myself as much as i am like just telling the truth and you're doing it all in your terms like this is not you riding shotgun you know or being in the back of the family van that is literally riding through fame usa like this this is you riding driving the ship like it's it's done the way you want it and it's it's totally your narrative there's no the other narratives that come in are on your terms and when you want their narratives to come in you know what i mean absolutely absolutely and i think that now that it's become a thing i get to have conversations like this where it's like it is vulnerable and it is more it's not just presenting it in a joke i can talk about these things and be funny but i can also have like the conversations that are more vulnerable and honest and that's something that i've been wanting to be able to do and i have the opportunity to do those things now do you feel like you spent a lot of your life trying to make a name for yourself and stop living in the shadows of others like you wanted people to see you as frankie not just the other jonas brother i think i honestly i thought it was impossible not to so i didn't really i i did my best subconsciously but like i wasn't actively trying um and it wasn't until i gave up trying to like be something other than myself that i was able the moment that i stopped like caring was when um all of this happened but it's so hard to not care right because it's so hard i can't even imagine growing up the way you did truly on so many different layers it's really remarkable um just for so many different reasons right because like what you brothers accomplished were amazing and god forbid you that cost them their thing like you know i mean there's a thousand different ways where like it could be filled with pressure yeah i would i would also say like i think a lot of people can when i tell about it it's immediately like they their perspective is like oh that would be harder oh that's negative and like it had its goods it has positives and its negatives but for the most part man i mean like i'm so grateful for my life experience like i'm so because it has it's put me in this beautiful position where like i mean i've been able to see the world i've been able to do these things i've been able to have life experiences that like most 20 year olds will not have like i and totally it's given me this perspective on life and aged me in a way which really i couldn't be more grateful for every piece of it is so i and a lot of that was like me coming to terms with everything and being like wow like i like i i have a different perspective and i'm and i'm grateful for it you know well that's the truth it's hard to come to terms with it but the good and the bad shaped you into the person and the artist that you are today and continue to be and like you really don't want it any other way no matter how hard it was back then right absolutely no absolutely i couldn't i couldn't imagine a a life in any regard different than the one i've had like i'm like i i am so glad because i would be if you changed one my new detail of any piece of my life i wouldn't be the same person i am today i wouldn't be able to say the things i'm able to say today i wouldn't if i didn't my pants when i was 12 i wouldn't be able to come on this show but it's true like if one of those ingredients were missing or altered you really wouldn't be who you are and who you continue to evolve to become you know the timeline branch that i like live on in in the multiple universes that are like constantly being overwritten like is i'm so happy i'm on this branch like this one i don't know if i'm allowed to say that um this one rocks this one's really dope and yeah so you have no regrets or almost jealousy that you never became part of the band at all you're happy with how it all played out no no i definitely don't i'm i could never do what they do they like i i'm so proud of them because they're like that's their world man that's their baby is and and they that i don't think anyone can do it's just so them and i've never like i've never wrestled with wanting to be a part of that band um i just i've i've always been a cheerleader of them because like it to me it's you know that's like my big brothers like that's like they're they are they are your big brothers they're my big brothers they're my they're my role models they're the guys that i respect and the guys i look up to um and i'm more than anything i'm i'm just happy to be like have them in my corner as my friends like that's like that's what i love like as supportive brothers and and homies and like people that i go and play like fortnight with when they have a minute i'm excited for your world i'm excited to see the universe that you create and the narratives that you end up writing and i mean dude the path is long and the future is pretty bright and i'm just excited because you're a very unique influencer thank you i appreciate the quotation marks thank you ben that's i i'm excited for it too this is just this world is new to me and it's exciting and it's it's cool that i get to do stuff like this it's cool that i get to like i've watched your show you know and like sorry now now i'm on it and like it's yeah two quick questions one because of how like big you're growing in the influencer world do you ever think about putting college to the side and putting all your focus on this because you can always go back to columbia it's so that that question's like crazy because like i i always wanted to go to um to college like a really good school like i graduated high school when i was really young i graduated at 15 and i was like going to go to a really good school and then i like messed up my act and then i was like just so i don't know a shame that i like just stuck with it and went to whatever school would accept me so it's like a big deal that i'm in school right now to me um and you know there's so many it's it's definitely like a it's a it's a debate that i've had in my head of like do i stick it out that i'm fulfilled mentally in the way i've never been right and uh do i push down that rabbit hole or do i accept the the gratification and the immediacy and because if i don't because like i do miss opportunities because i have like an essay due tomorrow night right i do have that duality you mentioned earlier that you need that life i mean understanding what people are talking about and what you know society is going through like i never went to college i tried college asked me to leave but that's a story for another day the point is i've always seen college as like depending on what you choose to major in and how intense your course load is going to be like yes it's fulfilling for your brain but at any level college is the most fulfilling socially and it gives you access to people and walks of life and perspectives and just stories like you know like do you want to know what the kids are doing absolutely and i think that right now specifically is such a weird time in such a unique time to be able to be in school with like everything being on zoom and stuff it's like it gives a really unique idea of what it is um and you can make content about what's happening right now because it's it's so it's not going to happen in a year or two i mean as far as we know like hopefully ever again hope hopefully we'll never have to be on in zoom school again but you know it is this new paradigm that everyone's experiencing um which is i think useful for people who like need content to make yeah life man life art imitates life or does life imitate art for some or for some i think life imitates well for some are well i don't know i'm confused myself yeah no that's i think you know i think at the end of the day we're all just we're all just living we're all just living i think that people who accept that are the people who accept that and then at the and then live and then then exist and then continue to breathe existentialism yeah hopefully um hey frankie jonas i have the most respect and appreciation for you sir um i really thank you for giving us time and energy today really seriously thank you so much thank you for giving me time and energy this has been a pleasure i've like had a lot of fun being on here well the first of many you had one more question right daniel yeah i'm sure you get asked this often but oh it's going to be one of those what i'm i'm sure he's expecting it all right do you does the bonus jonas name annoy you oh um yeah i hate that name so much um but at the same time i also understand that that's what p most people know me by like that's like the name that most people associate with me so like i mean like if that's what you want to call me like go ahead but for a long time i was trying as hard as i could to get away from that name because in part it is a little derogatory right it is like yeah it's a little it's a little not nice um but i think a lot of that comes with you know acceptance of it all and i think if that's what people know me by then that's what people know me by um i i hate it i like it like bothers me every time i hear it but whatever yeah well the reason i asked is because i assumed you didn't like it but then you were talking about how you're kind of embracing everything that's happened and who you are and the meme that you've become in a way because of just you know being the fourth jonas brother so i didn't know if now in your life you're like okay i accept it i understand it it's funny to me now it definitely is not funny to me now but i accept it around here and uh to the public forever moving forward you are frankie jonas um you are your own individual you are not a bonus anything you are you are very much very much a part of the bundle very much not an extra what i i am very grateful of that thank you very much jesus i'm so sorry and congratulations culture in society like what the like what the heck was 2010 america 2008 america thinking man it was a different world it was a it was just it was a very different world that we lived in at that time camp rock was on tv's high school musical 2 is thriving the world they're still on tvs actually that's what's crazy they still play that it is weird to think about right that that holds up still no i mean it does i mean disney plus that they they're rocking it forever well frankie you had some pretty good red carpet outfits back in the day well got it got to give you credit on that man i was a style icon if there was anything that that you could expect from me in my current career looking back at that age i mean it's definitely a career in fashion i uh i rocked the all saints the deep cut fees the newsies caps the scarfs dude you took some bulge bold moves with hats i took i took moves that um have still never been attempted besides me um was i an icon yeah but you continue to be i really do think so and to be honest like your your story isn't even written yet so keep on going and i'm excited to just yeah i'm just excited to be a part of it and to consume it with the rest of society and i hope that you come um on our show more often because absolutely yeah you're really incredible this has been amazing i've loved this thank you so much no i i appreciate your words and i'm i'm excited for everything that's coming it's it's crazy and we'll make a make a plea right now to trisha paytas uh what we'll get this to her yeah hold on let me let me get in frame i can be on my knees okay got it got it that's appropriate i think okay yeah nice trisha please please accept me on my in my humble state all i want in my life is to be in front of me with you and ethan if you hear this know my heart is humble and know that my my my soul is indebted i love you queen i'm gonna cry that's good that was that's and that that was serious that was from the heart no that was that was i was vulnerable um we made great moves today we really did i have goosebumps and uh a tear a single tear is about to emerge from my right eye i gotta go i was gonna say you are the only person i think has made me cry laughing in an interview yeah you were phenomenal it was hysterical frankie jonas guys i made it i just made it all right let's give a round of applause to all of us we did it guys we did it hey beautiful human thanks for watching our full interview but i get it like full interviews a lot so we got a clips channel we don't expect you to watch the full thing anymore so we just gave you the highlights please subscribe and uh notifications and all that stuff okay cool i love you

Channel: Zach Sang Show

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Keywords: Frankie jonas, Jonas brothers, Kevin jonas, Joe jonas, nick jonas, tiktok, zach sang show, zach sang, dan zolot, jobros

Id: waigwZG490w

Length: 58min 11sec (3491 seconds)

Published: Mon Mar 01 2021