CURRICULUM VITAE OF WHAT HER BACKGROUND IS. WHAT KIND OF WITNESS IS HOPE HICKS AND SO DIFFERENT FROM ALL OF THE OTHER WITNESSES, THE OTHER EIGHT WITNESSES THAT THE PROSECUTION HAS BROUGHT FORTH SO FAR? >> I'M BETTING HOPE HICKS IS A GOOD WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION, A STRONG WITNESS BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE CALLING HER, BUT, NUMBER TWO, WE ALREADY KNOW SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME CREDIBILITY AND MORALITY ISSUES AS SOME OF THESE OTHER WITNESSES, WHETHER THAT BE KEITH DAVIDSON, MICHAEL COHEN, OR EVEN DAVID PECKER. SHE MAY BE A VERY EFFECTIVE WITNESS BECAUSE SHE IS SOMEONE WHO WAS JUST AN OBSERVER, DAVID PECKER SAID AS TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS, HOPE HICKS WAS IN AND OUT AND MAYBE THAT'S DAVID PICKER'S MEMORY, BUT WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON WHO IS IN AND OUT IS LISTENING WHEN VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE ARE MEETING ABOUT VERY IMPORTANT THINGS, THEY PROBABLY HEAR MORE THAN YOU EXPECT THEM TO OR THAT DAVID PECKER MAY HAVE EXPECTED HOPE HICKS HEARD. SO WE KNOW SHE HAS GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE PROSECUTION, OTHERWISE SHE WOULDN'T BE HERE ON DIRECT EXAMINATION RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED BY SOME OF HER INFORMATION, SIMPLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SHE WAS AS WILLING TO REVEAL IT AS SAY SOME OF THE OTHER WITNESSES IN THIS CASE WHETHER THAT BE MICHAEL COHEN OR STORMY DANIELS. MICHAEL COHEN'S STORY WE PRETTY MUCH ALREADY HEARD, ALMOST EVERYTHING HE'S GOING TO TESTIFY TO, I IMAGINE. HOPE HICKS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE THERE. AND SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME CREDIBILITY CHALLENGES, SO I EXPECT SHE'S GOING TO BE A SOLID WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION. >> SOLID WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION. AND HOW IS IT LOOKING, JUST OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE, VAUGHN, WHEN YOU'RE SEEING WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING INSIDE? >> Reporter: RIGHT, HOPE HICKS IS SOMEBODY HERE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S ORBIT OVER THE LAST DECADE, POLITICALLY, WE HAVE WATCHED SO MANY ADVISERS AND AIDES MEET HIS SCORN, THE THRONE FROM THE OUTSIDE BE REPUDIATED BY THE FORMER PRESIDENT, BUT IN TURN ALSO MAKE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE THE THREAT THEY BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS, POLITICALLY AND ALSO EXISTENTIALLY TO THE COUNTRY. HOPE HICKS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. HOPE HICKS IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS NOT DONE A PUBLIC INTERVIEW, SHE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2018, AND AFTER MEETING WITH CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATORS WHO WERE INVESTIGATING POTENTIAL RUSSIA LINKS TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. AND THEY DID DOES HER AS PART OF THE TESTIMONY ABOUT THE STORMY DANIELS AND KAREN McDOUGAL ARRANGEMENTS AND IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY HOPE HICKS DURING THAT TESTIMONY THAT SHE WOULD SOMETIMES TELL WHITE LIES IN SHORT ORDER AFTER IT WAS MADE CLEAR SHE HAD TALKED TO CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATORS, SHE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE, SHE DID, AS CAROL OUTLINED, RETURNED IN LATE 2020 TO JOIN THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN HERE. SHE IS SOMEBODY WHO SHE HASN'T TALKED TO TRUMP SINCE THE SUMMER OF 2022, SHE IS SOMEBODY, THOUGH, WHO HAS NOT EVER, YOU KNOW, RECEIVED ATTACKS FROM DONALD TRUMP ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT OR ANYTHING. SOMEBODY WHO IS A CLOSE CONFIDANTE. IN 2015, 2016, I WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND HOPE HICKS WITH COREY LEWANDOWSKI AND KEITH SCHILLER WAS PART OF A SMALL GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD THE TRUST OF DONALD TRUMP AND CAMPAIGNED ON THE ROAD WITH HIM, HE HAD A SMALL OPERATION. AND SO EIGHT YEARS, NINE YEARS LATER, HERE, TO HAVE THIS MOMENT COME DOWN TO HER TESTIFYING IN FRONT OF HER FORMER BOSS, WHO OUR TEAM INSIDE IS CHARACTERIZING AS NOT SMILING, BUT WATCHING INTENTLY TO THE BEGINNING STATEMENTS
