Former NFL QB Jordan Palmer Breaks Down The Comparison Between Josh Allen & Carson Wentz - 4/11/18

how'd you get hooked up with Josh Allen you know I had heard a bunch cuz he decided to come out not this year the year before and and then got rush of the media and agents and from a tiny town and the maturity for him to say I think I need another year to do this and grow and experience all these things I paid attention to that I thought that was a very mature decision so then I invite him to one of my QB stomach cancers I have all offseason for high school kids and a lot of the top college players and I had him and Jarrett Stidham who's at Auburn will be out next year and sand Arnold and they hit it off got a chance to see it in person get to know him as a kid and immediately identified him as somebody I think I can help and want to be involved with listen let's talk about Josh a little bit because in this crazy hamster a gerbil wheel that we recall the talent evaluation portion of the NFL calendar it seems like hits it's his turn to be mentioned is the first overall Apple of the Cleveland Browns eye right now the knock against him is that he's inaccurate that he's an inaccurate throw what do you say to that yeah I think all these guys coming out yeah it's getting to the point where college football and the NFL they're almost here in sports the language the verbage what they see not even just the talent but what the quarterback is asked to do is getting further and further away from what an NFL quarterback is asked to do you know the play that deshaun Watson scored on to win the national championship that whole entire play call was five words and yet in the NHL in the NFL you can get each set to gun spread right a chalk people trying to drive every to learn Mustang dragon on a white one that's a completely different set of skills to have and so as these guys go through it accuracy is one of those things where they're not asked to make all the same type of throws they are in the NFL so trying to evaluate somebody's accuracy like Josh early in college it's hard to do to project against it in the NFL because he didn't play with a single NFL type receiver and he didn't really play against any NFL DBS so it's really a kind of a hard comp to make and the five words at Clemson used to call the play was let's run the pick play yes I run the pick play to the right really look and and Watson obviously made the transition from the five wordplay to the I don't even know what the hell you just said many they were no but but but the the the the obvious comparison for Alan and it became even more so during our combine coverage on the NFL Network was his measurables were almost down to the inch pound hundredth of a second to Carson Wentz yeah I mean it was remarkable anytime I mentioned it on the air with Mayock sitting to my right or on the air sitting here with folks like you to my right I get tweets like he's inaccurate he's not the same as Carson Wentz Carson Wentz could throw it through a hoop he could throw it in the window and Alan cannot what what can you do as a mentor not a guru or a whisperer to fix that yeah I think mechanics when it comes to throwing it's about being able to do the exact same thing over and over and over again and there's always going to be times when you're off schedule right when you're have to lean you're gonna have to throw you're running for your life but the reality is if I said I'll give you a thousand bucks to hit a jump shot and you can either shoot a free throw or a fadeaway jumper from the corner we're all gonna shoot free throws and so how do I build a routine where when I can I throw the ball exactly the same every single time you know Josh was 56% at Wyoming the more tape I watched the more impressed I am that he was 56% why is that because what's happening on the other side of the throw there's two sides of it right that's what he's doing with the ball where he's throwing it and then there's what's happening and so in my opinion what happened is you've got very little separation and you've got different route depths and so it's really hard to anticipate and we know some guys who played in the NFL and had great careers who don't have strong arms I do not think you have to have a giant arm to be able to play in the league but when there's not that separation or timing then you have to throw the ball late and he throws the ball really hard and it's really cold there so it ends up being really difficult to manufacture completions in the NFL throwing note me understanding the type of talent he's gonna be around and then watching him for the last couple months he can throw with anticipation he can separate people he can throw people open so it's just going to become a repetition thing and for mechanics can you do it over and over again Jordan Palmer here on the Rich Eisen show the layperson hearing that would say that's an excuse making not be honest not if it's an evaluator might understand that language right there what do you think it is going on right now with the evaluation they seen what you were seeing or or might it just be the idea that you're trying to cover up for whatever this young man might lack to be the first overall pick in this year's draft yeah I'll sit with all these guys and I'll say this every year moving forward none of these guys the jump is too big none of these guys I don't think I'll ever sit here and say this guy's ready to dominate week one it's just it's too different it's a difference it sits on a completely different level so you have to go all right is he accurate enough to be a any player yes is this player after net enough to be able to make the free throws take all the easy gimmies and separate and create separation with players and is he accurate enough to be able to throw people open and I think when people look at him and especially through these private workouts I think they've been able to check that box but you also have to measure that against who the person is mm-hmm right and is this the type of person who's going to remain all-in and constantly pursue their career as if there's a problem they have to fix and he's a the Rich Eisen show weekdays at noon eastern on audience

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Length: 5min 42sec (342 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 11 2018