FLATS AND JAY3 Overwatch ULTIMATES Tier List

what is up everyone it's your boy flats in j3 again back with another florida mayhem youtube video this time it is going to be the overwatch ultimate tier list we've done we've we've done a tier this already a year ago but we're here we are gonna do another one for this current meta i i think it's a different meadow right i think it goes around and it comes around it goes around i'd say so okay double i don't know if it's a double shield meta like that like that in comp q it's a it's double shield it's everybody explodes it's hog ball hog sig chaos whatever you get i guess kind of just a chaos meta right now to be honest with you except when dpi when double shield shows up double shield shows up it just it just it's over it's so resident sleeper okay let's let's get this where would you think i think i think nano is impactful impactful or game-changing impactful uh i don't know about game changing but i know like in a lot of maps i know like the winston if there's like a winston you know double bubble type type of comp i know that winston likes to you know take a lot of damage and they get nano in like 30 seconds nothing else to do on winston that's all you can do you're just an old farm and then you get nanoed and if the team doesn't i think if if you are a good winston your team's good you jump in your team cleans up and you're it's an easy win but i think sometimes you know there's a lot of those people who fail and they they you know kite the winston and he doesn't do anything so i i don't know i think it's impossible to do with the nano though or the winston player that's probably the winston player but i'm i'm i i still say i don't think it's games here's the okay all almost all the support adults except maybe valk are going to be at the top of this list like oh for sure but i think a lot of the sports are well yeah it used to be the tangles or the most important ults in the game that's no longer the case it's actually supportaltz supportalt is actually what changes the whole game from wind and we'll talk about a lot of those as we go but now you actually half of tank now is literally sitting there absorbing damage to then farm and pop your supports which i have to say is not my favorite right now gonna be honest but that's i think what makes on a you know and i think it could be even game changing because that's how strong it is but as an ultimate on its own i'm okay i'm good with impactful i think it feels very fair sounds good sounds good okay bob i think i think i think bob is somewhat impactful yeah i agree bob is strong bob is definitely sure i i like playing bob on a lot of tcp maps you throw bob on point so they're forced to go to point because if they don't go to point well you get a tick especially in those chaos comps hog nobody wants to touch especially when they need to touch and then you have a bob and you throw bob on point and they have to go to a point and bob's just gonna rip it man can we talk about something really quick we're gonna talk about it a minute bob's got 1200 hp ball can get more than a thousand hp why it's probably a thousand hp we'll talk about that later but i just want that i'm gonna pose the question bob bob stays still and does real damage but if he stands still he could get deleted like quickly i mean also the winston players too as well but yeah true true true so basically we know where that goes where are you going to put that that's that's useless tear useless dude can we make a tier below it called vational i think that's fair i mean if you're down to do that you can make another one ah nah that's fine i i would honestly put this in its own tier below useless it's just you know you're going to get those people complaining in in the comments section like hey yo i'm a bastard one trick 1700 sr peak i think i was 1700 sr bastion at one point okay really yeah have you ever if you've never seen my video on fletc my second youtube channel if you haven't subscribed you can hit the bell subscribe kind of a weird flex just saying it's this whole story of how i got into overwatch my first time you know my first week playing overwatch like seriously like when i was like picked up the game was ironclad bastion week when they uh he got buffed he was soldier walking that is probably the fastest i've ever seen blizzard update they broke bastion and then in one week they reverted it i went from silver to diamond in that one week that was my first week of overwatch i was still a siege player at the time so i made the swap during that week crazy week let me tell you it's like oh this heroes bring this it's great that's actually crazy that's funny rally where would you put rally game changing i think it goes game changing or impactful at the very very very least i think i think i think it's yeah i think it could be game changing that rally that armor you know that that's a that's a big difference plus it stays there for 30 seconds yeah let's go game changing i mean you can rally in when they engage you rally right before they engage you rally you know and this is you know most people know that i have a little problem with zen right now i think zen's a little too strong yeah i think it's zen's fault yeah i think it's brake's fault to be honest with you because zen's supposed to be like a glass cannon you know like high damage but really really easy to kill but but brig just made him a fortress so we play against his bricks and comps i i can't i can't kill either or when i'm playing tracer going on the back tracer can't kill him winston can't kill him ball can't kill him discord stun boom you're gone you're gone there's nothing you can do so who ends up killing him you have to wait till like a long-range dps like a hit scan like like a widow or or even hanzo like just gets a lucky pick that's you know i mean you're just basically sitting there afk or you wait till your zen break gets the first pick we're sitting in a metal where we get away from the supports to get the first kill imagine that force do more damage than a dps character that's true we're actually on the same page here yeah i just don't understand dude if you're gonna make a role at least make the role do that role not like all every single role at the same time right if you're playing a support you heal you don't kill if you're playing a tank you tank and you're playing a dps while you're doing the damage i'm okay with like enough damage to be threatening not enough to like make you want to uninstall you know like pick one like okay it doesn't die it's just about three ma and and i've learned recently playing a little bit dps in my other account playing widow and stuff you know which whale isn't like that good right now but like it's okay all of a sudden you peek at angle and four orbs fly by your head and you fell over and it's like oh i just feel like playing all over again you basically get sniped and they have no fall-off damage no fall-off damage it's wild that's wild i saw i saw you playing dps and i saw you do a high near speaking about that i will get to that hey you know what i i i won this that round that's all i could say when i won that game but once that round yeah uh all i could say for rally is at least rally now disappears after 30 seconds yeah that was uh that was a that was a scary day those are scary days okay for dumoul i'm gonna be honest with you for all the doom players out there and our boy samito i feel like he always says it it's useless i think diva bomb diva bomb and diva like her ultimate when she gets her mech back is just a stronger dumoul if she gets too old new mold is terrible i think it's useless yeah i agree even though even though i hate domains and i think they're all is useless you know what it's used for now it's for you staying in the air because you get the 100 increase on your cooldowns or decrease on your cooldowns so that charges uh you know two times as fast so you get your old your chart your coolas back up so you can basically alt wait in the sky a few seconds get your cooldowns back and then go back in that's a terrible ultimate or or like yeah or bounce out and get yielding and go back in yeah though he's a little terrible you're not doing anything with it it's basically just an escape characters in the game have an escape ability true since you play with emon a lot i'll let you decide where diva bomb goes yo i listen dude i i spectated some bronzes today dude i've seen i've seen more [ __ ] with this diva bomb than i i don't i i don't understand it anymore after watching metal rank bombs uh dude ever someone dies every single time without fail in high rank diva bomb is so smartly used like you know i mean like if you have to use bomb to stall it's kind of useless it's just like a re mech which is one already kind of like a good thing it's basically just a better primal but if you can catch a team of rotation or catching table on engage or falling back with diva bomb i think it's impactful i think it's very much an impactful alt oh for sure for sure but you think so you think it's it's on it's on par with uh nana maybe not with its ability to enable but maybe it's it's just it's overall ability like one it gives diva a second like life pretty much where obviously the baby dude has to survive but you know would you even count the crush as part of bomb because like you get the rematch kill too still her old yeah you get so many tools in that in that now it's better it's basically a do-mold and a primer put together with an explosion you know what i'm gonna say that's impactful yeah i agree i actually on my reddit that i have the subreddit for for my community they actually had a 6k eva remake really oh i saw i was actually in your stream i saw that i was sick it was it was a it was also a you know grab but still i mean that's crazy i think how much damage does it do like 600 uh no just 200 no i think it does 250 now right 200 or 250 now it used to do 400 during the april fools patch okay so i can still one shot a lot of characters okay okay now echo old i think echo is just impactful i mean i i don't know about game changing uh it could be i i i i'm it's like it's like a sliver away from game changing was the game changing until they changed the way diva worked yeah remember when remember there was four there was like six bombs going off a fight it was ridiculous that was yeah those don't know they changed actually the way diva ult charge works so diva used to be able to start building alt charge when she fired bomb but it didn't matter because you would never build up enough alt charge between bomb and the explosion you just get your mech back anyways but echo has an increased ultimate charge rate when she's ulting so what would happen was echo would bomb baby diva would pop out she'd fire three or four shots hit those three or four shots back again get a rebecca immediately pop back into mac continues while the bomb is still exploding and start building up another bomb while the first one's going off and could pop a second one right after the first one so you'd have echo and the real diva would alt then echo devo would alt again and you would have that on both sides it was just it was genuinely just world war three that's what we should have called that meta honestly that was ridiculous this is interesting i just think she's i think gecko holds just like it's really impactful because you know there's so many echoes that get to one hb and then hey hey look at me i popped my old full hp and then i used all my cooldowns i have nothing to do they kill me and then they get out of it they get half hp and all their cooldowns back again so yeah it's ridiculous ridiculous yep anyways dragon blade oh yeah this used to be impactful or game changing with nano but it's not anymore i don't think i i see i see there's a lot of ng players out there and i don't see him a lot but they do still play genji and uh i mean i mean blade's worse since that patch came out that made it so it's like slightly less damage so they can't one shot anymore i think it's in x4 is semi-impactful though oh definitely i could say semi-impactful but i wouldn't say it was the old dragon blade where nano blade was just about a guaranteed kill especially since we're doing it i guess in this you know current season 30 31 about to be meta right now would you actually you say someone impactful would you say situational actually like where where is blade good right yeah i would say situational because i i don't i don't see a lot of blades popping off now because i think if they get once they get nano they they could pop off but yeah a lot of the blades now if you don't have nano you're you're kind of you don't see a lot of guns you play bananas way better on your winston if you're playing that comp anyways for sure for sure i like situational i think it's fair situation is good now dragon i'll leave this one uh oh man my dragons are always game changing so uh i i like i think it's somewhat impactful uh because i mean if you if i'm if my team's running a zarya on like king's row or any map like that and like you if you have a zarya you just have a free combo and but immortality immortality field exists yeah so and then a lot of people are also running zens with that immortality field so i could i could probably go with some someone impactful and if you don't have a you know grab well you just got to shoot them and like you know zone players and uh i mean hope for the best i'm good with that i agree with that plus dragon is pretty good in like cutting people off you know i mean cutting off team fights and stuff like that so definitely impactful for sure for sure rip tire oh man i gotta say 600 damage and a huge radius tires not as strong as it used to be though since they changed the drop tire thing oh true they did change the i'm so glad that was actually a change too because there's so many like you know buggy spots there's one spot like you know temple of anubis you know that that that choke that second choke yep and there was also one on hollywood when you cap second it would be on the lights yep oh man so those are don't know another spot in king's row what was the king's spot i don't remember that one things row right when you after you cap second you know like before that first bend where a horseshoe is right above the mega you there was that little uh guard rail you could be like right about oh you're right you're right you're right yeah i know i go there as widow and whatnot that's broken true uh what i was gonna say before though is if you didn't know so chunk right used to be able to pop his tire on a ledge when he would rip the tire the tire would be invisible and it would spawn on the ground but as a player you wouldn't see it fall you would just see it appear so you could just spawn it and blow people up and blow it up and no reaction there was no reaction there was no there was no counter play it didn't exist so they it got patched out and that actually reduced junkrat's power by quite a bit because you could catch teams by surprise so easily so what would you say this is uh i mean still i could shut down a lot of volts even if you nano blade genji i mean genji dies to a you know a tie or plus the radius is huge so i mean it could change fights but i mean only i i i i'm gonna be honest with you i think i say someone impactful even though it is a huge hole and it does shut down all their old it's like getting you know nano blade and whatnot it still has 100 hp and it can die easily i can see comments screaming because people were yelling at me today about uh junkrat tire being so strong and low elo i mean it's low elo as well no offense but i know i know i know just just shoot it long forehead i'm just predicting the comments that's all i'm doing just shoot it just shoot it wow just dodge it ah just dodge it it might be a little tougher but just shoot it dude just hit it just hit it with a fire shot it's i mean i don't know about that one i do it all the time so i mean oh it's just me your flex lucio beat he said a lot of the support holes are gonna be game changing yeah but this is like the one of the even even this one even this one's still good but it like the reason i'm laughing is compared to other ones it's it's just terrible you know i remember when i dude back to my oh geez whoever is like an og overwatch player man i remember when lucio's used to skate on top of the map and they i don't know if you were in this no i remember those days if you were just in it's in in his loss you just get healed or speed boost and oh man oh you could ride around the top of route 66 no problem yeah and everyone would be getting healed and you can't you know if unless you have a widow or someone that shoot him kids can't fall off at that point though so you could have probably dealt with it but it was a different time it was a way different time of the game true true those those were the days man i missed that uh so you what you would say high high impactful i would say high impact i would say it's at least somewhat impactful at least somewhat impactful somewhat impactful i would i mean like at the very very least like even at its worst you know like beating in and getting aggressive is still very like valuable but like i guess i should look at it more subjectively as the ult as a whole so yeah impactful is a good way i'm thinking i just think of the other supports and just thinking about how much better they are and i'm like oh well those ones are better but you think beats better than coalescence depends i'd say they're even okay we'll get to that soon i guess i think they're even deadeye do you want to do someone or impactful which one do you want to do uh i'll be i'll be with impactful let's go impactful okay that feels good with me deadeye oh man is this that dead eye or the uh current one i don't think it's out yet so i'm going to say current i think it's situational agreed but i'll put a little asterisk for that new one that new one could be busted the new one is actually really insane it goes by fast but right now situational nine times out of ten people are gonna be like what are you saving up dude a lot of the times i get this i don't know about if you get it when you're playing on dps bro are you saving your high noon for overwatch two play like what do you want me to do nine times out of ten i'm gonna right click roll right click high noon right click a tank with it yeah you know what maybe maybe i don't get that too often because they just assume i'm dumb and they're like oh this guy doesn't have to play dps and people expect like a high new like a high if a high noon gets a 1k that 1k should be enough to turn the fight it should be 5v6 you should be able to but like you're not going to get like a like every high noon a 6k like that's not gonna go like that everyone's used to the the the flank hiding 6k reddit clip like oh that's how you're supposed to use it no it doesn't work oh yeah let me just do that off cooldown like 24 times a match yeah rank one incoming they're not gonna learn yeah of course not uh so situational i think yep i agree mail i'm gonna be honest with you i don't see a lot of maze only only those weird people who wanna you know who need sr no agreed but that's the thing though is like may still strong but people don't want to play her you know what i mean like her i mean her freeze is still free it's not overwatch two freeze where you can't free like she can't freeze as a like mouse one she's like this is this is still good maybe good character her ult's really good but i think it depends on the map yeah it definitely depends on the map i think it's still i think that's the problem though is it's situational but it's it's game changing or very impactful in those situations so may we split the difference i'm going to be honest with you i'm still going to say it's situational i think mail is huge if it's like an overtime situation you need the team to lose once on the card so you play may you get your old throw it on a cart bob is more impactful than may yes yeah you're crazy you know what honestly dude i've already been nervous about you today you know bob could go to point on 2 cp if your team needs to touch on like 2 cp throw bob bob's there he's killing everything i'm like what are you going to do at may throw your ulti on the ground and like make riley locks up an entire team some similar to a grab but instead of locking them in one place it locks them in position in a radius that's if you hit them and with them if you hit them with a male then they'll be frozen yeah but like if you throw down a male and then if they don't freeze they could literally get out of it with grav at least if you shoot it at them they're gonna get stuck in it i mean the only comps that have like a full team people that are going to get out of it is like dive or if you catch double shield and the sigma's not it and like the arrests can fortify and walk away otherwise you're catching almost everybody you'll catch rush you'll catch most of double shield so what you wanna you wanna put it in someone impactful i can agree with that but i don't i don't think i wouldn't go any higher than someone impactful i would say okay i would say someone impactful is is where i would put it because just because we don't see it that often right now i don't think it means that the ultimate's not strong it's just people don't wanna play men which is fine with me but i can agree that i think it's a stronghold like i said like you know overtime situations what not like small maps kings road wall off someone throw a mail i think that's huge but on the on the flip side i think bob's also really good for what may can't do so it's like the two cp maps and whatnot even though you can't play may i was getting worried that you weren't gonna be rational today we've already had bad enough takes out of you already okay first of all off script on everything i think eating butter without bread it tastes really good yeah this is why you got ratioed on that one i'm going to be honest with you yeah i don't understand if i get a nice piece of bread and i eat it without butter it delicious i don't even like butter on my breasts so you're the dude who goes to texas roadhouse you get the nice beautiful rolls and you just pick one up and pop it in your mouth you don't cut it open and put some butter on it like come on bro no i don't i actually don't i just don't like butter i did you wait you're wait you're you're waiter waitress is going to look at you and just go what is wrong with this guy i have a little psycho i don't like butter on bread bro like a nice rye piece of bread you don't like delicious what do you do with toast i actually really don't like toast i like bagels though a little bit you know you put them in the toaster and cream cheese anyways if you haven't already go subscribe to the florida mayhem youtube channel subscribe if you haven't already ring the bell click that button subscribe hit the ball anyways also uh hardcore ratio no uh what the mercial right where am i oh wait wait what tip what's how is this in oh here we go anyway the ratio huh are you showing the ratio [Music] no i don't understand why people don't like my food cakes like they they know i'm right they just don't what they just don't want to follow everyone wants to follow the crowd sure that's what it is just likes their bread without butter butter's just disgusting uh it's mercy mercy goals words you put mercy out okay now that's one of the the more worse alts but it's still not that bad oh dude i'm so glad it isn't the res ultra reds situation oh my man rez you remember her mercy was broken oh yeah yeah i think she's uh i'm her old so i'm not looking at her kit her old hurt or what's her healing everyone and damage boosting and like good mobility too and the valk flying around yeah what would you i say someone someone impactful i think i do like the aoe healing that it does give and if everyone is daily damage yeah that's what i was going to say too yeah that's that's good and like you have the occasional mercy just goes in like frags the widow really quick because the widow's not ready you know i mean that's kind of like i'd ask you those mercies who this will you know get 5k also with a new guardian angel changes i don't know if you've seen like something like those like really good mercy players dude you can't hit them anymore it's not possible they're like they're doing like after that situational high noon comes in oh no kidding honestly finally high noon's good yeah so coalescence i think coalescence is somewhat impactful i don't think i don't think it's one of the better support ultimates okay that's a hard one to answer because in your question before about which one's better beat or cole cole you get two or three of them by the time you get beat so like true that is true you get a lot so useful because of how often you get it now that's why you saw an overwatch league like in the beginning of the year you saw like this winston diva rush with like coal with with moira they had coal up and like i think violet at one point had cola with the shock in like 20 seconds it was wild um like from the start of the team fight it was insane and so basically it was just a kamehameha fight and the reason you know that that's so useful is you can play so stacked that everybody's on the same train and if you're playing bravi brawl or like some kind of braley comp you're healing your five teammates and damaging the enemy six like the amount of impact that brings is insane especially if you throw like one of those heal orbs or damage orbs yeah she has great survivability too like with her fade and stuff like that so like she'll typically build that up pretty well the problem is she doesn't do anything else so unless you're running that specific comp cole isn't really that useful so i'll agree with you i'll say somewhat impactful as the ultimate itself but as an overall because of how fast she builds it in those comps i would say it's way more impactful than that but but just call itself okay with someone impactful sounds good sounds good now bongo i think i think bongo's one of the good ultimates right now oh no it's good i uh it's very good i just have this really bad like thing i do uh right down in the open well maybe kinda i used to watch xqc a lot back in the day to figure like when he actually like played the game seriously um when i was first learning overwatch and i noticed that there was something he'd do on orisa doesn't mean why he wasn't gonna wrestle with me i shouldn't have picked this up whenever he was in trouble and his like health was getting low and he was gonna like getting close to death he'd drop his bongo and run away and without fail try it try it in your game people will go and shoot the bongo instead of shooting you and you'll get away almost every time i'm gonna be honest with you in my games and i always complain about why people don't do this if an enemy team drops a bongo and sure my team is winning the fight they're gonna push and try to kill kill the enemies instead of killing that bongo which is right in the open and the enemies are still getting the damage amplification so like my teammates are rushing in and they're dying and i'm over here they're like they're complaining at we me why they're not they're dying and i'm like bro i'm shooting the reason why you're getting two times the damage into you like oh yeah i know bonga is a great hole bogo's a great all i just i use it in very weird ways so i i would say it's impactful i don't know if i'd say it's for sure game changing i'd definitely say it's impactful for sure for sure i could agree with that barrage tough one tough one honestly i think i'm gonna be i don't really play pharah but times i do see pharah they get deleted as soon as they hit barrage or they get they always get a killer too but they'll die yeah so i i think it's situational especially with the if you're playing on those maps like king's row let's say you just got first yep that teams and you're on defense and they're pushing through that first choke and you're hovering right above there and then like you fall down on them that i think that's really awesome you get the surprise factor and you're gay especially if you get nando'd you're killing a lot of people but like i i think there's it's easy to kill a pharah and also as well it's easy to cc here yep 100 percent agreed across the board and winston blocks the bubble on the way in diva dms there's so much stuff you can do against that yeah i think that's situational my opinion agreed but now reaper blossom i mean reaper blossom you can flash as well stun i haven't seen a good blossom other than like i actually saw a couple today on my like masters dps account but other than that like i don't really see them like in high elo almost ever i would say situational yeah besides those reaper one tricks that i see i don't really see they do more damage than their old stuff they're also like solo holds half the time true but at least if you get that old it's good but situational of course yeah situational definitely okay reinhardt god you're up this is such a tough one nowadays honestly i mean you're answering this wherever you want to put this i'm not arguing i don't i mean my reinhardt is clean so yeah yeah let's let's we'll go with that um okay real talk results kind of useless but it's also not useless at the same time like it it's such a skill thing to hit that when you do hit it you should secure the kill that's my that's why i think three seconds shutter so for those who don't know shadow used to be three seconds and then about a year ago they nerfed it to 2.5 and that was when you stopped seeing ryan's like clutch plays with shatters because it doesn't have enough time to finish the combos to kill people um the timer's too short you need to have a good amount of follow-up to really do anything with it um which i think brought a lot of counter play but at the same time it relies way too heavily on follow-up which almost any other tank ultimate doesn't require that other than graviton which is built to be a a combo alt so it's kind of weird cheddar's not a combo so i i would say it's somewhat impactful i would i would say that you know if you do get a big slam and your team is ready to capitalize on it sure um but it's not one of those ultimates that you can genuinely outplay the enemy with on your own and win like if you genuinely outplay the enemy and you're like don't have the correct follow-up don't have the correct positioning don't have and this is this is most the most pet peeve one for me if they're too far so there's like the way it travels is shutter travels and waves and around the third or fourth wave and you still hit you actually will get nowhere close to killing them if you walk towards them swing fire shark etc you'll get nowhere close to killing them by the time they stand up and get out they will escape you almost every time um and that's just it just doesn't feel good so i would definitely say somewhat impactful can be good can be very good not nearly as strong as it used to be definitely an underpowered tankless three second shot i i i don't even play ryan but i think it should be three seconds that that they they ruined ryan with that i'm gonna bring it back mark my words coming back i swear somehow that's why i think they should bring it back i'm not even a tank player i feel sorry for tank mane now roadhog uh that's a hard one i mean it's good to push people back that's what it is meant for now back then you could shred people in front of you i mean you still could shred people in front of you like hold someone in the corner but mostly like you're you're pushing people back or like pushing an old back nano blade comes out yeah at least you could push it back so yeah uh i can put it i can i can see it putting in situational or even at least maybe even somewhat impactful but i you can push people off the map as well certain maps but i think i think it's situational let's go situational yeah i actually think hoggle actually it's kind of like a like a disrespectful like i swear whenever i get home it's a solo and they're trying to send me a message i'm looking at you like every time you do it to me too when you play hog i love i love i i'm gonna be honest with you i love off tanks off tanks are by far some of the most fun characters to play sad that you know i mean 5v5 you're not going to have enough tank you're just going to have tank all right now grav i think grav is very high impact for even game changing i think you got to throw it in the game changing category oh okay that's that sounds good because i think grav even if you get like if they nano blade you catch a nano blade or like even anything they nano reinhardt you catch it in the grav or even if you get a fat grab that's that's that's huge gravel remember ground dragon meta there was literally a meta that was designed that no matter what would happen if they built the graviton surge and the dragon bl uh dr uh uh i guess tony spirit dragons hanzo dragons they you lost the fight you just instantly lost i mean there's nothing as well but if you didn't swing into it then you lost yeah and that old one you could damage boost uh with mercy oh yeah you could damage it it was impossible you genuinely could not counter it it was it was when they changed that dragon could no longer be boosted by mercy anymore because and then people started nano boosting him and then they had to change that too because it was broken i think they actually reverted that later on once people like realized that died off that was a thing was that a thing at one point they nerfed it at one point you couldn't damage nano dragon was the thing at one point it was or one point it wasn't oh at one point it wasn't i think i don't know if it is still not or it is now i don't remember that being a thing why at one point it was a thing or one point it wasn't a thing it was a thing i don't remember that oh yeah it was absolutely a thing it was one percent uh damage visible with nano oh no damage boosts oh okay now okay it actually sounded slightly different it sounded like more aggressive the dragon wow i didn't know that yeah it was it was i at least that's how i remember it maybe i'm wrong but uh yeah i mean maybe you're right i just don't remember also i'm getting really old so yeah that's true you're getting up there i mean 27 man wow you know at least you're not emong old you know you want you could ask him about how the the meteor hit the the earth and the dinosaurs got wiped out he knows the story he remembers it like it was yesterday jeez yeah he was he told me it was wild time uh poor guy i think he's the oldest overwatch streamer i think so i think he's what 31 so one yeah that's the metro uh i don't i see symmetra on a few maps i think the ultimate though that wall is is so impactful yeah i mean roadhog if a lot of people didn't know if you if you start a road hog goal next to like and you're just shooting the shield like you're right in front of it it does destroy the old it really yeah i think roadhog old does like 5 000 damage and then the shield has like 4 000 so i think it's three thousand now that's so uh yeah no i think it's three thousand you said five and then they nerfed it so maybe it's three i i have no idea at the top of my head but i do know roadhog if you do have your roll and you're saving and you know that symmetra has an old and she does it you can destroy it i know that for sure good to know hog tip uh 101 provided by jay yeah so what would you say uh i think it's somewhat impactful especially a lot of those maps where you tp the point with uh symmetra like you know those cost maps and then you do get your old for the next fight and because she does get it pretty quick and especially if double shield your beam is going to be level three especially like hanamura you take first fight you teleport the point get your old you go to second point you snowball basically with your wall boom easy yeah i'm okay with this impactful i think it's a little more impactful than somewhat impactful but i'm okay with someone impactful i'm okay with it that's good yeah what do you think vitamin visor this is just borderline useless isn't it i think it's useless you know what's funny what i've played a hacker before who used to who uses visor on cooldown and i thought it was so funny because he was hitting headshots when he like was cheating he was hitting headshots and then he popped visor and all of a sudden he said why would you do that you know but uh yeah this this all sucks results yeah terrible i'm putting it useless now emp game game changer absolutely game away from the enemy team and they can't use their ultimate especially a surprise emp i got i got surprised a couple days ago i thought they were they built an iam so we was fi hanamura we were attacking hanamura we took it first fight and i'm talking about like steamrolled them i didn't get i didn't get farmed almost at all i was like oh we're good roll into second nano me and we win and it was our we had one fight to take uh the second and i literally walked up held w into their back line got nanoed and they got emp'ed slept and just booped off the off the high ground i was like well well that was useful but like i didn't realize that the guy built a whole emp in like 35 seconds you know so we all walked in got caught off guard and got just sent to the shadow realm so just on emp alone so that that ultimate is is so strong honestly and even worse too it looks scary for sure that does look pretty interesting okay okay well i'm pretty sure this is molting cool yeah this is horrible yeah i think somewhat impeccable i i think tour bolts are actually really good even more i think it's actually pretty impactful but you think it's really impactful i don't know like i guess someone makes more sense because if you don't put it in good areas they could just like run yeah it's not like one of those olds that you just lead off but like ah man like especially like a two cp you know what i mean and they put you push shoots it over you and all of a sudden you're stuck you can't move anymore you're like oh god i love i love playing i love playing torb on a lot of like first point maps mm-hmm i played some tournaments he's so fun to play i love him he has a lot of fun today i was actually dominating plus don't forget you will get your tour bolt a lot faster i know we're talking about the old not the character himself but he is going to be able to you know shoot more right clicks and use his uh overload a little bit more was already strong he's getting buffed again but hey i don't get to make those decisions yeah he's gonna he's gonna be a good character i love forbe i like torture not fighting i love melee people that's fun of course you do the is fun because i like i land nine times out of ten all my pulse bombs but uh you mean missed nine times out of ten i've never missed the pulse bomb in my life i think i've card i think you've heard you got out it's called out i got two by killing yourself with a pulse bomb more times than i can count i have let me see my whiff counter in my chat uh i've only missed uh seventy 9674 pulse bombs which is that one thousand four hundred oh nine thousand six hundred and seventy four nine thousand six hundred seventy four i don't think it's a lot what hello considering i've been playing this game for five years and ten thousand like five hundred hours i think nine thousand pulse bombs is not that bad i mean who has that has that command existence since the beginning that doesn't count scrims because you used to scrim a lot no it doesn't count scrims obviously i'm not no one's watching this exactly so that number is much higher listen i land if i missed the 9600 pulse bomb i'd landed about like 50 000. let's not get ahead of ourselves um be honest okay i'll let you have it i'll let you so where would you put this i think it's actually i think it's impeccable if you landed on a brig absolutely absolutely it's it's it's really it's it's massive or landed on like a you know a soldier or like even if you just landed on anyone even a winston diving in you take out you know a lot of his health like almost half his health [Music] why do you look at the list do you see at the bottom next to tranq isn't that grav then what's that what could that be what what is that that's grav what's that what is that i don't know bro we play this game every day i don't what what is that that's that that's not a dpsl overwatch ultimate what is that i don't know i'm gonna look at this oh that's ravit gravitic flux oh my god it's flux oh my god i'm putting the grav up there and i'm taking the flux and we can change the flux right now what what what i'm going to do a pulse ball where do we put pulse bomb postponement impactful okay um flux we gotta talk about because today i was doing a thing we talked about like buffing and nerfing and balance patch stuff and i had some dude get very very angry with me that i said that flux is strong i think flux is strong and so that flux is one of the worst ultimates in the game because in low ranks you can't shoot the people that are in the air so they always survive but they're literally it's it's literally an aoe grab what does fifty percent of their health like am i crazy on this one or what can i get to you about that if i am let's say i'm i'm i'm soldier 76 i have 200 hp did you know the gravitic flux lifts you for 50 so my hp goes from 200 to 50 and then it slams you for half of your full health so half a full would be you know a hundred because you're full at 200 so it's actually doing 150 damage yeah yeah so so yeah with the left click and midair sig that's one if anybody else shoots anybody that's two three four it's literally flying grav it's it's actually a really strong ultimate but you can get cc'd out of it and i've seen a lot of people get cc out of it but it is really strong i don't know how someone's gonna say it's not strong we'll see that what the comment section says but i think it's very very what would you say impactful also you can see nine with it i think it's i think it's i think it's one of the few game changers i think it i think that i think more alter i think more you look at this list right what wins fights more more often in our in our rank i would say bongo nano and bomb are the top three then pulse then echo then beat but if you put flux in there which one would it be i think flux is number one i think flux is stronger than bongo i think if you're running sigma against a dive you're not going to get a lot of people against dive your name is emon like other than that yeah probably not but if you're playing sigma on like king's row that's going to be huge i mean even against dive you're still going to get one or two kills with it almost every time whoever you flux you will kill unless you get cc sure that's why i think it's not that's why i think it's it's actually since you're the tank player i can i'll put it in game changing i i could see i mean i'm seeing it i guess at this point it does a lot of damage i mean you know what yeah it's game changing forget about that other person that said it was useless yeah widow uh i mean the ability to see people through walls i think is strong and giving it to your teammates as well is yeah i think is strong but i think i think it's somewhat impactful in my opinion somewhat impactful interesting a lot of people think it's underpowered but i i agree i'm actually in agreements with you that's why i think that emp and sombra hack and overwatch two is a little too strong because seconds of wall hacks again in an fps game wall hacks is it it's literally cheating like there's a reason why it's a cheat you know what i mean like for sure for sure and especially you know sombra if you can hack every few seconds now and you're gonna be able to get two or three people and they could see through walls for eight seconds i think it's like it's almost as good as this as a widdle and yeah but it's it's an ability yeah so i agree with you someone impacted a very good spot yeah especially 15 seconds i think it's good uh winston dude i'm about to just prove a point and put in useless dude i really am i think it's situational i've seen you can move people off the bat is the same tier at this point the last time a primal kill was that wasn't a boop off the map it has been weeks the last time i saw winston in my comp game he primal jumped into my team discorded stunned with right click i was stunned with mccree discorded i think i said discord it already yeah he got stunned with mcqueen right clicked and then five orb then stunned with brig and he was just gone the 100 1000 hp fed easy clap i jumped situational high noon i actually got nano primal the other day where i jumped in the anna panicked and handed me like as i pop primal and i got a full primal pretty much with nano and i barely got like 200 hp didn't kill anything but i was like you know what that's the first time i felt like i actually used primal in in like two years like you know i mean i went in slapped him around a little bit got close to me getting a kill realized this is not gonna work and got out instead of i went in went to make a play and just poof and just just just got sent to the shadow realm like i i i i want to like make a point and put it in useless i really do i'm not gonna lie but like look at it like i think whole hog is stronger than primal i do i believe that with my soul i think so too if a winston jumps at me to be honest and i have and i have you know my whole hog you're you're deleted i'm gonna put i wanna i'm putting it useless i'm standing here we go that's my stand is useless primal uh hammond mine depends who uses them if i use them then it's useless but other people it's like at least somewhat i could i can put it in someone impactful the mines last for a very long time in my opinion 15 seconds and they do what 120 damage yeah they've it's they're scary yeah but i mean you could break them and whatnot but still it is pretty scary and then transcendence i would say is game changing absolutely you know that that looks like a good list i i think it's a very fair list i know some people might my question like visor or primal they might question like uh i don't know beat being a little too hot here or something like that but overall though i think this feels whether it's true like completely agree or not as a player this definitely feels like it's the absolute truth this feels good today and i i could smile at this and be confident but then again our opinions a lot of people if you have different opinions some people i'm pretty sure are going to go and be like yo what are you idiots doing you got mad at us relating uh may too low last time i don't know if you caught that uh like really he's only like i don't know we put like d or c he was like why are you crazy it's the i don't know why there were one one of five thousand may players out there yeah honestly the one trick may but you know what i could be happy with this i like this i think this is fair i i i think uh one buff primal uh it's too weak and uh yeah visor just has been terrible for five years bachelorette's been terrible for five years doomfist is swell for [ __ ] character but useless all right yeah doofus god at least he's getting maybe get reworked and overwatch too because i don't see a doofus come back in overwatch one i think that hero is dead and then bastion well i'd rather just never use the soul and just stay in tour for him yeah honestly use it to just jump to higher ground one time and that's it basically i think this is good okay if you guys have a different opinion let us know in the comment section as well as liking and subscribing on this channel for more flats and j3 youtube videos we appreciate you guys watching them let us know like like i said in the comment section also before we go i just want to let you guys know uh ghost saints the saints beat the buccaneers absolutely pog champ you know brady unlucky dude oh saints sorry i had to say that no go bucks no no forget about the bucks bro that guy needs to retire already he's 42 he is he has found the fountain of youth am 42 bro this man needs to retire his way he has kids he has a yes do you have a retirement if you have kids yeah he he has a wife he's 42 years old bro he's been playing a very stressful game where you're getting hit by other huge long he's getting better every year bro be like be like the saints old quarterback be like uh god why am i even know who it retired bro you have enough money just retire bro you have the rings you have the you have everything behind the rings you have all the what is it called um what's that word i'm looking for when you're the goat you retire when you want to not want to go just just just get off get off no that's all i have to say but thank you guys appreciate you guys watching the video if you did let us know what you think like and subscribe also check out flats on twitch.tv as well on his youtube channels and his twitter instagram and tic talk as well as me on twitch.tv j3 on our my socials as well appreciate it any closing statements um also about overwatch 2 did you guys know [Music] yeah i'm just going to stop recording right there and leave them off leave them recording too i'm just going to leave [Music]

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Published: Fri Nov 05 2021