Sure, the Venom movie's tagline is "The World Has Enough Superheroes" because this powerful alien symbiote appears to be an evil, man-eating menace, but have you ever stopped to consider that venom may actually be the victim in all of this? give me 15 minutes or honestly Whatever length this video winds up being because who knows the actual length of this video isn't finalized until like five steps after I record this Whatever it winds up being stick around because I think I'm gonna be able to change your mind Hello Internet, welcome to film theory the show that's cringier than a Peter Parker dance break Okay, maybe not that cringy but close enough We're talking about VENOM one of spider-man's most popular villains because, let's face it who doesn't love themselves a dark Doppelganger storyline, am I right? for those of you who need the quick rundown venom is one of several alien symbiotes to go around possessing human hosts in the spider verse giving them special abilities like Shape-shifting increased strength and um abnormally long tongue in the new movie journalist Eddie Brock is investigating the Life Foundation, an organization whose experiments with the symbiotes are a whole lot more sinister than their Super generic name implies when the investigation goes awry Eddie's body merges with the symbiote Unleashing venom and his ultimate ability- awkward one-liners In all seriousness though There's an interesting side to venom that no one has ever really stopped to consider That he's the victim in all of this and I don't mean that in the big bad evil science corporation did Experiments on him or anything like that I mean that for all the death and destruction that venom may bring if the symbiote is really just a lost Confused and scared entity that Eddie Brock might be the thing that's actually infecting it But to truly understand why we first have to understand the nature of Parasites you see once you strip away all the alien goo nonsense venom is the dictionary definition of a parasite I have a parasite Take for instance, the case of the parasitic wasp and the orb weaving spider, both of which live in Japan. The female wasp drops her eggs onto the back of the spider which hatch and then become a larva in larval form the baby wasp takes Control over the spider causing it to build a web A web that is nearly three times stronger than any web. The spider would ever build for itself in its normal life It sounds a lot like venom and that increased strength. He gives to his host body's The reason they do this is that the larva will soon be helpless in a cocoon. It needs a stronger web to protect it. A web that's heavier duty than what a spider would typically build Once that web is built, the Spider host is killed off. It's no longer useful Man, just like a parasite always about that web bam Thank you, ma'am, but for as similar as a spider parasite might be to venom There's actually a better fit when it comes to the real world. Which I've talked about very briefly years ago on one of the earliest and cringiest episodes of Game Theory. HOHOHO! That worked. Basically, Toxoplasmosis hijacks the brain of a rat, forcing it to hide out in the open where it can be found and eaten by cats. That's bad news for the rat but great news for the parasite because once it's inside the cat's stomach, it can morph into a cat-compatible form and then also reproduce inside the cat's digestive system. After reproducing, it gets pooped back out by the cat and gets into the water supply where it's once again consumed by rats. It's like a really gross version of the circle of life "Everything the poop touches, will be your home." Now, you'd be totally forgiven if none of that immediately reminds you of Venom but in both cases we're presented with a parasite whose behaviors and abilities change based on the thing it's infecting Symbiotes affect Peter Parker and Eddie Brock and Cletus Kasady very differently Just like Toxoplasmosis changes tactics depending on whether it's inside of a cat, or inside a rat or even inside a human. You see, Toxoplasmosis can also affect humans. Now I'm not going to say it's gonna cause you to lay down in Mr. Fluffy's food dish in the hopes of him one day eating you but studies have shown that this could have other effects on the human brain, specifically it might be linked to an increased risk of schizophrenia. According to researchers at The Stanley Medical Research Institute, Furthermore, the researchers finding, quote again Further stating that Now before everyone rushes off to put Mr. Fluffy up for adoption, I'd like to point out that there were more than 40 million people in the US who are currently suspected to be infected with the Toxoplasmosis parasite and only a teeny tiny fraction of those are diagnosed with full-blown schizophrenia even if the link between the two is Scientifically valid and remember it is far from certainty the chances of getting a schizophrenia. Diagnosis are still Incredibly low just try to be hygienic and make sure that you're washing your hands after you empty the litter box You're doing that right, right!? Anyway, the link between Toxoplasma and schizophrenia is really interesting because in a lot of ways it parallels Eddie Brock's relationship with the venom parasites. For instance one of the main symptoms of both schizophrenia and the symbiote is psychosis a failure to understand reality and a higher propensity for Hallucinations and this is something that is immediately Apparent from the trailer of the new movie. In that trailer Eddie looks into a car window and sees the reflection of Venom staring back At him. This should be physically impossible. The shot is showing us things as Eddie sees them In this case, he's seeing things that aren't really there. Eddie is also prone to auditory hallucinations, hearing a voice call his name Venom's voice commending him Etcetera "Now wait", I hear you saying, "that isn't a hallucination, venom is literally talking to him" and sure that's true But it is all still happening in his head. That conversation with Venom is the textbook definition of an auditory hallucination and one of the clearest signs that Eddie might be headed off to schizophrenia, but why does any of this matter? I mean sure Venom and Toxoplasmosis might share some similarities But even I with my over-the-top theories won't go so far as to say that the symbiote is just a hyper, evolved form of this cat parasite. I don't need another Deadpool as Earnest Hemmingway moment on my hands No The reason I bring up the parallels here is that whether we're talking about parasitic wasps, parasites that warp rat brains or fictional alien parasites, one thing connects all of them : a need for survival. It's easy to forget but parasites are fighting for survival just like any other living creature and they're using whatever techniques they have at their disposal It's why the wasp gets the spider to build a stronger web, so it can reproduce It's why Toxoplasma forces the rat to get eaten, so it can reproduce inside of the cat's stomach. But now, take a look at Venom's behavior We see him presumably eat a guy in the middle of a convenience store and then just leave a witness. If you need to eat a human to survive, why wouldn't you just track down victims to eat in uhh, I dunno, dark, secluded alleyways Instead of, I dunno, the middle of the street where six people, yes, SIX PEOPLE, count 'em, are watching. One of whom appears to be recording the whole thing on a cell phone Behaviors like this result in Eddie and by proxy, Venom repeatedly getting attacked by thugs, having to run away, having to fight for their lives. In Spiderman 3 Venom, being evil, gets himself the worst enemy possible, Spider-Man. Any way you slice it this behavior is simply not Conducive to helping Venom survive. It is instead doing the exact opposite and putting him at active risk So what is really going on here? Well, it's all explained by toxoplasmosis You see changing rats' behavior so that they get eaten by cats helps the Toxoplasma survive and reproduce Inducing psychosis in humans, however, does none those things. It is a loss for the human who starts to develop mental issues But it's also a loss for the Toxoplasma, who can't move on from the human to the cat's digestive tract and reproduce, because, well, There just aren't that many man-eating cats out there. The problem is Toxoplasma didn't evolve to exist in humans It evolved for the cat-rat style of life The fact that it also happens to affect humans is entirely accidental, an un-intended side-effect. This relates to a field called "zoonosis", infectious diseases that begin in animals but can eventually be transmitted to humans like "Bovine Spongioform Encephalopathy" probably better known as "Mad Cow Disease" There's also Bird Flu and probably the single most notorious example in history, the Black Death in 14th century Europe which was spread by rat fleas that went on to kill human hosts. One of the reasons that these kinds of diseases can be so fatal to humans is that they didn't evolve to affect humans They evolved to affect some other animal The fact that they can infect and kill humans is just an accidental side-effect which is usually a pretty bad evolutionary strategy if you are a parasite But this is what seems to be happening in the case of the symbiotes We're so used to seeing Venom and other symbiotes like Carnage and Scream Attaching to human hosts that you might make the mistake of assuming that the symbiotes naturally exist to bond with humans But that's not the case at all. Canonically speaking The symbiotes were originally created by the primordial deity Null in order to slaughter The Celestials, basically space gods from the beginning of time. You remember Knowhere from The Guardians of the Galaxy movies? How it's in the shape of a head? Oh, yeah in the comics that's technically a Celestial's severed head where people are parking their boats anyway It shouldn't come as a big surprise that an organism Created in a separate part of the galaxy with the intent of bonding with space Jeesi (matpat how the heck do i spell that) would probably experience unintended side effects when trying to bond with a human host it's a learning process which might explain why Venom's behavior sometimes seems erratic, at best, and completely against his own survival, at worst. In fact, if anything, it might be the Symbiotes themselves who are affected more by this bonding process. We often see the Venom symbiote as something who takes control of humans but the link works both ways, Though, the symbiotes were originally created with evil intentions One of the quirks of their programming is that they take on some attributes of their host In many cases, symbiotes feel that their existence has no meaning and one of the reasons they bond with a host is to give their lives a simple purpose. This is one of the reasons why when venom first bonded with Peter Parker in the comics the thing it did was to go Out at night and fight crime. The meaning for its own existence came from Peter Parker who spends most of his time fighting crime However, this had an unintended side effect. the symbiote's who had bonded with benevolent hosts infected the symbiotic hive mind with traits such as nobility and honour. The good symbiotes eventually rebelled against Knull and imprisoned him at the center of their artificial planet in the Andromeda galaxy Eventually creating the agents of the cosmos as a force, not of chaos, but for good. If you needed proof that symbiotes weren't designed with humans in mind that seems like a pretty good indicator. The fact that noble humans were essentially able to reprogram an evil alien symbiote hive mind to be benevolent, seems to indicate that the symbiotes are not prepared for the effects of what happens when they bond with a completely new organism In this case, a human. whether that meant turning over a new leaf and rebelling against their evil creator or simply threatening to eat a dude in the middle of The street and turning him into a turd. Venom is on an unfamiliar planet fighting for his own survival And one of the only weapons he has at his disposal is imperfect mankind He's scared, he's threatened and he's doing his best to survive The trailer for Venom seems to be trying to sell us on the idea that Venom is the one who's corrupting Eddie Brock But who knows, in the end, Eddie might just be the one who ends up purifying Venom but hey, that's just a theory, a film theory and You know what I first thought to myself when I first saw venom. Wow, that guy is not taking great care of his skin I mean look at this you guys that is more than a little bit of sunburn and overly enthusiastic exfoliation I guess not everyone gets themselves Dollar Shave Club every month which is a shame Since I think a lot of this movie could have been resolved if old Eddie Brock over there might have cleaned Up his act a bit, did a little visit to the orthodontist, maybe treated himself to some manly pampering. 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One problem, he mentioned how the simbiot (spelling?) Was created by null or whatever to kill celestials, so maybe reproducing isn't a big priority for them like most parasite but instead to just kill the celestials. I still think the idea that they are not ment to join with humans is right, but matpat, you got to get better at realizing the basic stuff you use as examples could answer your question.
Matpat kinda willfully ignores the fact that outside the movie, Venom is the textbook example of a symbiote not a parasite. This would be fine if he used movie only material to support his theory but he used the comics as well.
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