When I decided to do an episode on the classic Nicktoons CatDog, one question stood out as the hardest one to answer. Should I be using dog memes or cat memes? Pun dog or hover cat? Dancing dog vine or dancing cat vine? How can you choose? You know what? I am hecking bamboozled. Play me off keyboard cat! *Awesome intro plays* Hello internet! Welcome to Film T heory, the show that makes videos out of all those weird thoughts that keep you up at night, like this one. You know how keyboard cat is a cat that plays the piano? Well, what would happen if you made a piano, that was made out of cats? Sounds ridiculous? Well, don't let humanity hear you talking like that, because wonder no longer, internet. It already exists. It's called the Katzenklavier. It was imagined though, never actually made, by a German scholar back in 1650. 1650! That's right, loyal theorists. Cat pianos, predate electricity. I'm glad that scholars were working on the questions, that truly mattered, back then. But anyway, We're here to talk today, about a big part of my childhood, that I'm pretty shocked, I haven't actually done an episode on yet, Nicktoons! (0nLy oN niCk nIck t0onS) Gather around the fire youngins, because old DadPat, is here to tell you of a time before cell phones, and the internet, (3000 BC) when the greatest joy of the weekend, was waking up on a Saturday morning, eating half your body weight and Cap'n Crunch, WITH crunch berries thank you very much, and turning on Nickelodeon, for a full slate of Nicktoons, hosted by a popsicle stick with googly eyes. Forget your fancy youtube Flash animators. All you Jaiden's, and Rebecca's, and Domics'. Do-Domicseye?(wut) We had ourselves a stick! His name was Stick Stickley, and we loved him! He had a P O box that rhymed with his name. Stick Stickely P O box 963 New York, City New York State, 10108. He taught me, that I could pick a rose, pick my nose, and oh, yeah, I could also pick Nickelodeon's shows. Yeah, they BURNED, those rhymes into your head as a kid back then. I am indoctrinated! Anyway, I loved the Nicktoons, and I related to all the characters in them. I lived in a dream world, and imagined myself as a superhero like Doug, you know my superhero didn't wear underwear on his head, because you know, That's a little showy. No one wants to see those tighty whities! I was the stick-in-the-mud only child, who never wanted to get into trouble like, Chucky from Rugrats. though let's be honest with ourselves here. In retrospect Tommy Pickles was a menace, he was a threat to all those other babies, and honestly to his parents, and I was tormented by other kids at school like Arnold, in Hey Arnold. Though I wasn't teased because my head was shaped like a football. It was just because I was a dork(me too!). But one of the Nicktoons that always fascinated me the most, at least on a theorist sorta level was CatDog The show, if you haven't seen it is pretty straightforward. You've got yourself an animal with a cat's head on one side, and a dog's head on the other side, and a long shared body in between, like a big wobbly hot dog. cat is a refined intellectual, and dog is well... He's a doggo. Hijinks Ensue. It's funny. It's weird, Winslow: "Hey CatDo- oh..." Winslow: "Nevermind..." And it got me wondering, all these years later is a cat-dog creature possible? Now, maybe I'm crazy for thinking this. I mean it IS a kids cartoon for crying out loud. But think about it this way. CatDog premiered back in 1998, And since then, we've had a few massive scientific breakthroughs, from hybrid cars, to the Human Genome Project, to discovering water on Mars! I mean, just the other day I learned from a friend, that you can clone your dog for like 20,000 dollars. If that sounds like a lot, remember you are literally creating a genetic duplicate, of a living creature with scientific technology. That was only perfected in 1995! I wonder if I can clone Skip... That would be weird youtuber merch...... *meow* You can have a Skip of your very own! Saving one for the Holiday Collection... Anyway, as far as I'm concerned. the only thing stopping CatDog from becoming a reality is the limitation of our own imagination! So, today we're gonna play a little Dr. Frankenstein to see just what it would take too make a CatDog. It would literally be the perfect pet! You got man's best friend crossed with mans most ambivalent friend... Mix the two together and you get like... man's most pleasant next door neighbor? I don't know. Now this episode is, all about the scientific possibility of creating a CatDog. But I realized! that that starts us off with a pretty big assumption, that a cat dog doesn't already exist! Do a quick google search, and you'll find that. yeah. Scientists have "apparently" successfully already bred a cat dog?! Well, that was fast! Good show everybody See you next week! But hey! of course, then you notice that the scholarly site you're getting this information from? is called Catster.com You can't find any record online of the scientists mentioned in their "news article" quote-unquote and you'll realize that the picture of the cat dog hybrid... looks like it was made in Microsoft Paint. fake news is everywhere these days! but there is something here worth mentioning. Which is that rumors of cat dogs, go way back long before janky blog sites a report in the French publication Le Mercure Galant. Puts the earliest recorded instance of cat dog, hybridization in 1698 there were other well-publicized incidents from the 1930s and 1970s in which. People claimed to have cross bred, or discovered animals that were part cat, and part dog now of course all of these were eventually shot down, as hoaxes. Made by people looking to make a quick buck. Speaking of people who lie to you to steal your money. It's worth mentioning PT Barnum here. Yeah, the circus guy Oh sure We all knew him as the guy who just had that meh movie musical man after him and us Hardcore musical theater nerds know him as the guy who also has a meh stage musical made after him But it's important to remember that this is a guy who got famous for doing things like sewing a salmon tail to a monkey Skeleton to claim that he had found himself. A mermaid clickbait is everywhere ladies and gentlemen all throughout history Anyway, my point is that the world's been begging for cat dogs for centuries There's clearly a market for it PT Barnum and the other swindlers weren't able to do it despite what they were claiming. Otherwise So it's my turn to step up to the plate and give the people what they want the kuppy it's a cross between kitten puppy it actually it sounds more like a cross between Kittens and Guppies the Kippy most logical way to create a cat dog It would seem would be by mating a cat with a dog Thereby creating a hybrid creature that contains traits of both animals after all that's how we get animals like mules Ligers and Wholphins which are combo whale dolphins and yeah, all three of those things are real I mean, it's not like you were questioning that mules were real but ligers and Wholphins Yeah, I'm like, whoa. Those are real. And yes. Yes, they are. That's one that they don't teach you in kindergarten V is for vulture W is for what the heck is that frickin nature? Just when you thought you knew the animal kingdom. Am I right a big part of the reason these cross breeds exist Is that the animal parents are genetically similar enough to make a viable offspring which we can demonstrate Using a little bit of Taxonomy. Now you may remember that science classifies animals in a variety of different categories Which are kingdom phylum class order family genus species from least specific to most specific if you can't remember that just remember Kanye prefers coke over flat grape soda because of course He does flat grape soda is gross. So consider that to make a mule You need a donkey and a horse which belonged to the same kingdom phylum class order family and genus Only their species is different with donkeys belonging to equus africanus asinus and horses belonging to Equus ferus caballus in the Evolutionary scheme of things horses and donkeys didn't become different animals until very recently about four to four and a half million years ago cats And dogs on the other hand are as different as well cats and dogs They're not nearly as similar biologically considering they only share kingdom phylum class and order then Separate into the families Philly de for cats and candy de for dogs Then further separate out from there the common ancestors for cats and dogs existed around 70 million years ago meaning that cat and dog DNA have had that much more time to become different and less compatible most hybrid animals breed across species and VERY occasionally across genus and very very very rarely across family or even order so from that very Theoretical stance a cat dog hybrid would be feasible But mathematically it's just not gonna happen and create a viable creature. Further adding to the complications Is that cats and dogs have a different number of chromosomes those little bundles of DNA that mix together when we create offspring now? I just use mules as an example And yeah donkeys and horses also don't have the same number of chromosomes Donkeys have 62 and horses have 64 so mules have 63 extra chromosome. There isn't gonna rock the boat too much though It should be said that the odd number of chromosomes here means that except in extremely rare cases Mules are gonna end up infertile. But now let's look at our hypothetical cat dog hybrid here We're not talking about a two chromosome difference We're talking about a 40 chromosome difference cats have 38 chromosomes and dogs have 78 Here's the scientific facts that also qualifies as a fun fact King crabs have themselves over 200 chromosomes, go figure What exactly would happen to this 58 chromosomes hybrid is purely theoretical Though when you consider that damage to even a single chromosome in human DNA tends to create a lot of health problems It's unlikely that a CatDog created this way would have any chance of creating a viable creature let alone surviving being born All right so even though we can't create a CatDog the Old-fashioned way that doesn't necessarily mean we're sunk yet A number of the show's fans note that cat dogs home town near burg is a bit of a desolate barren wasteland with no people And only talking animals and whatever Winslow here is they have therefore theorized that it may be a sort of post apocalyptic radioactive wasteland if so Maybe cat dog is a mutant And then all we need to do to create our own is find ourselves a leaky nuclear reactor history tells us that yea high levels of radiation tends to mess with plants and animals in the surrounding area in the aftermath of the Chernobyl meltdown local wildlife experienced a number of different mutations mutations That I'm about to show you and that if you don't want to see now might be a good time to take a 15 second Vacation down in the comments say hi to everyone else down there who doesn't want to use eye bleach today make yourselves a new friend everyone scroll down who wanted to scroll down Fantastic. So in addition to animals that were smaller thinner or misshapen in the wake of this disaster You also got yourself some really crazy results in particular animals that had extra body parts Like just lamb with eight legs and to get a little bit more on-brand with cat dog this donkey with two heads Genetics and radiation man, it gets weird reminds me of that episode of Bob's Burgers with a goat who has two months anyway All right, comment crew you can come on back up now so based on what some of you just saw it would seem like we have proof that radiation can create a Two-headed animal like cat dog, right? Well, no again and to understand why we have to get into the science of how these mutations work You see high levels of radiation tend to damage cellular DNA This isn't necessarily a problem because DNA has mechanisms to repair itself. But those repairs aren't always exactly right It's like taking a shirt to the dry cleaners to sew a button back on most of the time they sew the button back on Perfectly, which would be a metaphor for DNA successfully repairing itself Sometimes they sewed a button on but it's slightly too high or slightly too low which would be an imperfect but still Functional repair and then sometimes instead of sewing the button back on the shirt They like the shirt on fire and cover it in thumbtacks And that's how you end up with an eight-legged spider sheet at any rate These mutations can definitely lead to some strange results, but they're not random You might get the doubling of certain genes that create legs or even heads but you wouldn't get an Organism with a separate head far away from the first head besides all of the mutations that you're gonna see affect a single Organism and to create an animal like cat dog You're somehow gonna have to splice the cat DNA with a dog DNA which radiation and subsequent mutations Simply can't do on their own so it strike two for our mad science experiment which leads us to our third and most desperate Option and it's a dark one. So buckle up Let's say you're a mad Scientist who just can't live in a world without cat dogs and knowing that you can't interbreed cats and dogs or use radiation to create A mutant cat dog you decide to take things into your own hands Human Centipede style by surgically Creating a cat dog If you are somehow able to perform the surgery so well that you could merge the two spines and internal organs such that the surgery Itself was a structural success would this cat dog be able to live? well You know how when someone needs an organ transplant you have to do tests to make sure that the possible donor is a match this Matching system has to do with similarities in the blood and tissues between the donor and the recipient the more differences there are in those tissues the more likely the body's immune system is gonna recognize that organ is foreign which leads to the immune system attacking it as though it was Bacteria or a virus in order to kill it and cats and dogs. Like I've mentioned are genetically different So it makes sense that they would reject each other, but that's not the case though It happens only in very rare cases Cats that have received a single blood transfusion from a dog usually live interestingly enough cats that receive multiple Transfusions tend to reject the blood the second time which suggests that after an initial transfusion The cat's body just recognizes it as different from its own blood. It's a weird little phenomenon But yeah on the cat's side it is perfectly viable dogs on the other hand have a very difficult time receiving organ donations at all cats or otherwise because the canine immune system tends to attack any tissues that aren't Direct relatives a dog's immune system literally acts just like a dog. It's overeager. It barks at everything it's adorable to think about until you consider that it makes Biological treatment of sick dogs really really hard and then it becomes really sad anyway for the first time ever It's not the cat's fault. The cat's immune system would potentially allow it to happen it's the dog that would make this impossible surgery even more impossible and that leaves us with um, No, crossbreeding no nuclear fallout not even mad science is gonna create a cat dog at the end of the day We're just stuck with the glory that is dog O's and flutes. So I ask again. What's that? Leave us with the cartoon I guess which honestly ain't too shabby and making it even better. Is that lucky for us cat dog? 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Nick nickelodeon Only now in the modern age in the convenience of your pocket or computer or TV or pretty much any other digital device Where you want to watch something now play me off keyboard cat and remember. That's just a theory film theory and cuts
Just gonna say there's an episode where Spongbob has the Suds and is used to clean things. So yes, MatPat, you CAN use Spongebob to clean things.
Theory Confirmed
Hmm... what about gene editing? I don't really know much about it to be honest so I could be laughably wrong here, but they can give a kitten bio-luminescence. Maybe it can be used to insert some doggy genes. Or at least alter some to exhibit "dog-like" traits without actually being from a dog.
Also, Silver Snakes all the way.
Honestly, VRV is great enough that I'm barely even mad that this video was a 14 minute segue to a 3 min commercial.
Eh, honestly didn't like this one. It was literally just a commercial for vrv that didn't really bring up any fun little twist to prove fiction right like his TMNT video. I knew catdog wasn't possible, I go into the theory thinking he might bring something up...then he doesn't.
Am I the only person who has never heard of this show?
Frankly, there's more to this.
While hybrids, mutations and surgery are off the table, chimerae are not. A chimera is obtained growin in vitro two fecunded egg cells of different indiduals, which grow and multiply sticking together, creating a "patchwork" animal. Basically, if hybrids are grey, chimerae are black and with checkered.
This should bypass the immunity system, since the cells coexist before its developing.
But you would be making just a cat-dog mashup. You want a catdog. You want a cat with a dog head where its butt should be. And that's feasable.
Ever wonder why every cell has the same genetic code and yet they specialize in different tissues? Or how does they know they should multiply stretching in a direction to form a limb, instead of just making a ball? Basically, each and every cell has the blueprint to do that, but they only start building depending on two different sequences that just tell them when to build -so to avoid building an eye before there's a socket- and what to build -so to make an eye for the socket, instead of growing a foot in there-.
And we can totally tamper with this: in order to prove how those sequences work, they extracted what they believed was the sequence that make rat cells specialize as eye and injected them into a fly leg. If nothing happened, they'd have been wrong, if a rat eye grew, the sequence would have contained the information to build rat tissues, but no: a third fly eye grew on its leg.
So here's the process step by step:
-take the egg cells and stir them -make em grow a bit -when the fetus develops its insides, you need to selectively kill cat cells up and dog cells down, in order to make them express different features, but not so much that completely leave a part catless or dogless (or the immune system might kick in later or) -inject the head tissues sequence in the bottom and the front limbs sequence in the growing back limbs -it would be best to suppress the sequences that grow butts and stuff you don't want, like a tail -incubate -enjoy a kippy that's going to die as soon as it needs to poop. Which is very soon
There's still a long way to go to make all this stuff really feasable, but it could work... In theory! In film theory! And cut... That poor beast open to remove its poop
Question for matpat, did you do voice acting on COIN?
Cat and dog breeding is banned in Scotland