Film Theory: Frozen 2 is DANGEROUS. Here's why.

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👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/AutoModerator 📅︎︎ Mar 12 2020 🗫︎ replies

Olaf did surprisingly get some things right that I thought was clear nonsense. But how did they get the blink count so wrong?
Did Disney intended to write some nonsense, but they accidentally got them correct?

Also, what about "Sleeping during long trips is a good way to prevent insanity"? :p

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/tundrat 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Why does he criticize Disney every single time?

WHY?

And why does he portray the mascot as basically a corrupt business man?

And why does he make him sound like a psycho?

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/Makonio 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2020 🗫︎ replies

Because of odd coincidences, I just listened to the Sawbones podcast episode on Auriculotherapy, which is ear touchy therapy basically, and they talk about the water memory quite a bit.

Matpat missed the part where people took the pleasant water a step further, used frequencies to make the water nice, bottled it, and SOLD IT TO PEOPLE TO HELP THEM. Just a fascinating snake oil that I think plays into the whole ordeal.

(Don't worry, they don't always poop all over homeopathy. They mention the piercing some people get for migraines in their ear. Doctors will say "eh, you can try it if you want. It won't hurt to try." But you might as well try ear acupuncture first.)

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/ilandereokami 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2020 🗫︎ replies
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you know sometimes I'm listening to a Disney song and I just can't shake the similarities that it has to something else now I can't play the samples for it here because you know copyrights but you can look both songs up and hear it for yourself or heck I'll put some of my favorite examples up on Twitter if you're interested at matpat GT because Twitter is the Wild West and anything goes there for instance I am constantly confusing the opening of tangles when will my life begin with the who's pinball wizard those guitar chords and rhythms are undeniably similar then there's the lion sleeps tonight which really sounds a lot like the Zulu chant song Jubei oh wait that's a real story with the tragic outcome check out the Netflix documentary the lion's share if you're interested on that little dark secret but probably the strangest comes from our subject for today frozen - you know that haunting call that Elsa hears in the song into the unknown that makes her go exploring north well it was derived by composers Robert Lopez and Kristen anderson-lopez from the D s ear a part of the traditional Catholic Requiem Mass and you know what other frozen movie prominently features the DC Ray The Shining seriously right at the beginning of the movie does this mean that the two potentially share a universe no no it doesn't but does it mean that I've now spent an enormity of this movie where Elsa discovers a haunted Ice Hotel and then gets chased by Olaf while he hacks at her with an axe yeah yeah it does count Elsa years Olaf hello Internet welcome to film Theory the show that ventures into the unknown every week to lift the fog of uncertainty that separates us from the outside world so that extended metaphor probably didn't make sense if you haven't seen frozen - but no worries it barely makes sense if you have seen frozen - so nothing lost nothing gained anyway speaking of frozen - seamless segue alert it's no secret that I've thought about this movie a lot wondering everything from how cold it needs to be to freeze Elsa tip who taught Kristoff's reindeer to sing must have been Christoph and where are all those sick electric guitar riffs coming from when he's in the middle of the forest is it the sixth elemental creature the elemental spirit of ATS radness but one thing that stands out the most in this movie is Olaf who diz evolves from being a naive magical snowman and frozen one to the version that we see in this movie where he's the equivalent of a toddler that's chugged about twenty Pixy sticks and insists on telling you every thought that enters his head and well that might come across as annoying well it kinda is but still it actually gives us one of frozen twos most memorable scenes and best running gags where Olaf spouts some of his favorite science facts it's as random as it sounds and I can only assume was included because the writers had watched some wacky WatchMojo listicle and really wanted to show that they'd done their research for this movie no I'm used to watching Disney movies and really having to think about what is theory worthy in that movie so didn't really hand it to Disney on this one thanks for the assist there guys why dig for a theory when the movie hands one right to you on an icy silver platter so on today's episode of film theory we're looking at Olaf's scientific facts from frozen - and determining how well Disney is teaching our children is all off the 2020s equivalent of Bill Nye the Science Guy or is he peddling a bunch of onion level Snapple facts the answer is actually more nuanced than you would expect number one right side turtles can breathe through their bodies frozen to ends its little fact list with a butt joke but I'm starting it off with one because we're classy AF here on film theory and surprisingly but respiration is indeed a science fact when turtles hibernate in the winter they need very little oxygen to sustain themselves so rather than breathing in and out with their lungs the oxygen from the water that passes over their little turtle Toshi's is able to permeate into their bodies for respiration it's a process known as Chloe coal respiration it's not just Turtles who do it frogs salamanders even some snakes can do it don't know how you learn about that one in the days before the internet snowman that little fire lizard you just met might not want to go to sleep with you around probably be creeping up on him for science number two no wombats proof squares see what I did there made the poop one number two it's another one of those highbrow little details you can expect unlike Disney content now first small nitpick a square is a two-dimensional shape with zero thickness so no nothing poops and squares however if by squares all off meant cubes then yes this is indeed another science fact we know for sure that wombat Duty is in little blocks that look like this even weirder scientists aren't a hundred percent sure how wombats do it I mean we're wasting all this money trying to get ourselves up into space and yet we can't dedicate any money into researching the really important questions how wombats are able to Cuba fie their turds come on science anyway most think that wombats use the cubes to identify territory and that the little blocks are less likely to roll away this is gross but mildly interesting which fun fact was the working title for the show when we were starting at number three you know we think four million times a day get back on track Olof that's big ol science fiction in fact it's not even close to being right humans blink a bunch usually about 15 to 20 times per minute and considering that we're supposed to be asleep for a solid seven hours per day it means that we're blinking about 20,000 times per day on average orders of magnitude away from Olaf's number to get to Olaf's four million even if you never slept you'd still have to blink more than forty six times per second so unless you're an insomniac whose eyes like to mimic strobe lights you're not blinking four million times per day I literally have no idea how they could have gotten to a number that is that wrong anyway number four is you know men are six times more likely to be struck by lightning I can't say those numbers are necessarily perfect but we'll call this one a science fact according to popular science between 1995 and 2008 men accounted for 82% of all the deaths by lightning strikes in the US is it chance does it have something to do with men's body chemistry is Zeus just trying to reduce the male population so he can seduce more earth ladies vilnius actually a much more simpler explanation into immortal words of sailor jay because men are stupid men have been found to be far less likely to abandon outdoor activities like fishing golfing and camping when there's a thunderstorm and wouldn't you know it that's when they're getting zapped so if you're outside in the thunderstorm chances significantly increase that you're gonna be the one who gets hit by lightning when it does strike someone truly a shocking thing i know and finally number five did you know that water has a memory true fact it's disputed by many but it's true I saved this one for last because well this isn't just an Olaf science fact it's pretty much the whole movies thesis that there are these elemental energies that connect us to the past and to other people and that water has it water has memory water has frozen really wants us to believe that this is true water has memory what is it is it fair to say that water has anything that can be even remotely classified as memory well that's a more complicated question and the main topic for today's theory does water have memory and what would that mean if it did the answer to that question like the answer to most weird questions starts off in the 1980s cue that 80's elemental guitar riff in 1988 french researchers Jacques benveniste results of a study in the scientific periodical Nature which showed water's surprising ability to remember substances which had been in it previously the study was named human basophils degranulation triggered by very dilute antiserum against IgE hoo boy doesn't that one get you psyched to read it real page-turner that one anyway the study basically worked like this benveniste news team started by isolating some very small amounts of human antibodies which attack bacteria and viruses in the body they then diluted those antibodies in water to the point where the concentration of the antibodies was effectively zero they were obviously still in there but they were surrounded by so much water in the sample that the solution shouldn't have been any more reactive than just plain water he then agitated the water which is fancy science talk for they shook it really hard before taking samples and testing them by introducing what are known as basophils a type of white blood cell that reacts to the presence of antibodies and the basophils reacted if that was to science eforea it basically amounts this I'm allergic to dogs right so I walk into an absolutely massive room massive room think like a room the size of an airport hangar all your normal stuff is in there but like it is huge huge and in there somewhere is a single small Chihuahua I walk in and boom I sneeze even though it's one small dog in an otherwise massive room that wouldn't make me sneeze that is what happened in this test the basophils sneezed in a giant room where there was only one dog in essence benveniste part its findings with this analogy quotes like agitating a car key in the river going miles downstream extracting a few drops of water and then starting one's car with the water and quotes benveniste stick to the science I'll handle the explanatory metaphors that one sucked like you managed to even make me more confused with that one anyway his conclusion was that water remembers what it's contained and what has passed through it long after those materials are no longer president water itself hence the short version water has memory and Jacques benveniste wasn't the only one to conclude this either in the mid-1990s a man named Masaru Emoto claimed that he could change the way that water crystallized based on the types of emotional energies that the water had been exposed to in his tests he exposed samples of water to positive words and pictures words like love and appreciation and pictures like elephants and shrines as well as negative stressful stimuli like heavy metal music and words like you fool you suck when it comes to water samples you're a big old drip I've seen toilet water that's better than you you should be ashamed of yourself you're the worst water ever it sounds stupid but basically this amounted to a man telling a glass of water to go die and calling it science he would then freeze the water and take pictures using a high-powered microscopic lens he found that water that received positive feedback froze in elaborate geometric designs whereas water from polluted sources or that had been exposed to other negative stimuli froze in ways that were distorted he reported these findings in a best-selling book called messages from water and toured all over the world to discuss and present them so apparently water not only has memory but it also has feelings not so fast you see Jacque benveniste findings were a bit troubling to the staff at nature magazine on one hand the idea that water could have memory was a monumental groundbreaking finding on the other hand it was only one experiment and completely flew in the face of a number of established scientific principles of physics and chemistry so nature took the middle ground when they published the study they chose to include an editor's note before the paper telling readers to suspend their judgment until the results could be replicated and verified and not only that the editor went one step further he put together a crack team of scientists and skeptics to run tests and one of those people was a man by the name of James Randi now if you never heard of this guy he is literally one of the coolest guys ever James Randi was a magician who turned into a professional skeptic he developed the 1 million dollar paranormal challenge basically he offered to give a million bucks to anybody who could prove the existence of supernatural phenomena in short he used that million dollar bribe to lure fakers onto television and then totally dunk on them in public the clips on YouTube of James Randi completely owning all these fake psychic shysters are peak cringe at any rate when the team's applied some controls to the benveniste study the results couldn't be replicated and so nature published a notice that disputed his initial results one month after publishing it since then various teams have tried over and over and over again to replicate the water memory findings but to no avail as all of us in the age of social media know once you put a juicy headline out there for people to read like water has memory that's the thing that's gonna stick not the redaction that happens one month later meanwhile Masaru of Moto's findings have never been published by a scientific publication mostly because the whole thing wasn't really done in any sort of scientific way the guy took some water from a lake he took some water from a polluted body and like wow the polluted stuff froze in a really unnatural wait well no duh something tells me those results weren't tied to the Slipknot you had playing on repeat for the water and it's not just me saying that in analyzing messages from water dr. Harriet Hall concluded quote emoto's popularity is a sad commentary on the scientific illiteracy of our society his work is a morass of factual errors misconceptions misinterpretations metaphors and meaningless assertions he writes in the language of magical thinking and superstition not of science and quote cheese don't hold back there Harriette and in 2005 another study that directly addressed the structure of memory in water determined that water molecules can change their structure and build onto each other but that those structures are extremely short-lived to quote from that paper liquid water essentially loses the memory of persistent correlations in its structure within 50 femtoseconds a femtosecond is 1 million of a billion of a second to scale a femtosecond is two a second as a second is 230 1.7 million years so does water have memory technically yes but it's memory is vastly worse than Dorries overall it's pretty safe to conclude that Olaf's big claim throughout frozen 2 is indeed a science fiction now this might seem unnecessarily nitpicky to some of you ok fine so Disney stretched the truth about science facts big deal why are you complaining about fact versus fiction in a movie with a magical on melting snowman and yeah I get that criticism and the idea of water having memory and there being spiritual connections with nature is pretty on-brand for Disney heck mallanna is pretty much all about humans having a connection to the water but there's a difference which is that Moana and the original frozen don't claim to be invoking fact in fact he goes one step further and says it's disputed by many but it's true he's actively telling the audience to disregard the skeptics and more importantly the real science that we just covered scientific misinformation is really easily spread just ask your aunt about using a chopped up onion in your sock to remove toxins from your body yeah that's a real thing that's circulated widely across Facebook and no amount of logic or rebuttal is gonna change your mind when next Christmas she smells like the back of a burger stand my main fear here in this is that kids look at Disney movies with the same level of blind faith so when a movie tells them hey here are facts and it's being communicated to them through a character that they know and that they love and trust in a movie that they might watch dozens upon dozens of times it's likely that they'll retain those beliefs for years they won't question where they got those beliefs from in the first place the good news is that I don't think anyone believing that water has memory is really gonna do them harm but it's the principle of the whole thing if Disney truly wants to invoke science and it's stories then they need to be super careful about what they say is fact just as importantly we all need to promote replication and independent verification of the science that we hear about to make sure it's credible and not just there to grab some headlines so the next time that you're watching frozen - with the family remember to have a detailed discussion with any kids who are present about the scientific method and replication standards I'm sure they'll thank you for it or you know more likely they'll probably just tell you to let it go but hey that's just a theory film theory and cuts you
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Published: Thu Mar 12 2020
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