FIERY: John Kennedy CLASHES with witnesses over Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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let me apologize in advance i may have to interrupt some of your answers because we all uh we only have time i'm not trying to be rude i've just got a number i appreciate your passion um i confess i don't understand exactly what you're alleging i get the part where you think that corporate money and dark money is dangerous and i got the part where where you don't think chief justice roberts is doing a particularly swell job nor do you like many of his opinions connect those two for me i mean are you suggesting that someone is using the corporate money to bribe the chief justice uh for for me i was having trouble hearing at the very beginning you mean i gotta repeat all that no no no no i i heard the question sir at the very beginning i couldn't hear who you were addressing it too i want to make sure that it was to me before i answered that's all sir so sure um you know i'm not a lawyer but we're investigating but are you just help me get to the bottom line are you suggesting that someone's using the corporate money of the dark money to bribe the chief justice what i'm suggesting sir is that there's a rigged system uh that's pretty obvious i mean when you look at the chamber of commerce what do you mean by rigged what i mean by rig sir is that you've got dark money spending 18 million dollars to put a pro corporate justice on the supreme court how do you know that's influencing the way the chief justice decides cases well sir it the uh you know it's uh notable that the last two judge that the justice who got held back did not how do you know that money is reversing the way the chief justice decides cases now you've made a you've made a very serious allegation tell me back it up sir what i described is a rigged system in which you have dark money campaigns what what what wait mister john stark but justice is on twitter i'm trying to stay on the subject i listen patiently to you to your speech and i i i appreciate your passion but we need to connect the two you've made some pretty serious allegations and now are you are you saying that you're start money and this corporate money is is uh is is being used let me put another way are you saying she the chief justice is voting the way he's voting because of this dark money and corporate money in part sir can you let me ask you i'm sorry to cut you off uh let me go to ms uh graves miss graves i i i appreciate your passion too uh and i got the part about the federalist society and i got you and you made some comments about dark money going to the federalist society and you talked to i take it you're not a fan of justice kavanaugh as a nomination how do you connect those two are you suggesting that the federal society bribe somebody to nominate justice kavanaugh senator kennedy the record shows that donald trump outsourced the pre-selection process for judicial nominees to leonard leo who has long been the vice president i remember that i remember that but but i'm i'm trying to understand what you're alleging are you alleging that the federalist society bribed the president united states to nominate kavanaugh with this dark money what i'm saying senator is that the record shows that uh this federal society and leonard leo has exercised extraordinary influence over hand-picking who gets on the court and then he went to donors at the council on national policy to tell them that due to these selections america was at the precipice of a revival of laws dating back more than a hundred years yes ma'am can i listen to you but i'm trying to understand you you've got to connect up these are serious allegations you're making and you've got to connect up the money to the decision yes certainly certain in fact uh literally but are you saying that would not have selected kavanaugh but for this dark money what i'm saying is that it's quite clear that these individuals were hand-picked by leonard leo for donald trump to choose from because he thought that they would advance his agenda and his agenda because he told the council on national policy in his own words no he said he was he he said he was influenced by i'm not defending him but he said he was influenced by the how do you know what was in the president's head i don't think anyone knows what's in that president's head uh donald trump's head but i think that what's clear is that he spoke many times about how he was giving the role of choosing to the federal society the federal society has advanced a number of positions that's true let me ask you one last question because i don't want i don't i don't want to oh do in time are you suggesting that the federalist society is using this dark money to bribe anybody senator there's an array of ways in which judicial uh the judicial function can be corrupted and dark money is a way of corruption are they grabbing somebody and if so who is it like a brown paper bag of cash is not the only way in which money can influence and distort the rulings of judges or of others and so this issue of how you define bribery i think is somewhat of red herring in fact before the people do you think they're being bribed one way just tell me if you do it's okay i just want to know what you're saying i think you that they're bribing uh anybody to have somebody nominate senator there's a legal definition of bribery in the united states code that's a very specific narrow definition okay that's not the person's definition of corruption and undue influence mr lee senator lee is that happening
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Channel: Forbes Breaking News
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Keywords: Sen. John Kennedy, Supreme Court, Senate
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Length: 6min 43sec (403 seconds)
Published: Thu Mar 11 2021
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